Current Events > Captured mercenary confesses Trump directly ordered kidnap of Maduro

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Secretly
05/07/20 10:20:30 AM
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ChuckSDeuces
05/07/20 10:23:32 AM
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Bullshit

The order would be done by someone else to afford the President plausible deniability.


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Doom_Art
05/07/20 10:24:10 AM
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ChuckSDeuces posted...
The order would be done by someone else to afford the President plausible deniability.
this particular president is really stupid, is the thing

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ghettoraider81
05/07/20 10:24:37 AM
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ChuckSDeuces posted...
Bullshit

The order would be done by someone else to afford the President plausible deniability.


Youre suggesting that Trump is smart enough to think about that. Or to care even.

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KILBOTz
05/07/20 10:25:00 AM
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I hate trump as much as the next guy, but that sounds like bullshit.

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Secretly
05/07/20 10:25:00 AM
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ChuckSDeuces posted...
Bullshit

The order would be done by someone else to afford the President plausible deniability.
Trump is definitely stupid enough to say this
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iPhone_7
05/07/20 10:25:08 AM
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They may have forced him to say they were following Trumps orders.

But then again Trump directly tried to shakedown another countrys leader to announce a scam investigation, with several other officials listening in on the call.

So I think its totally possible that he could have done this.

And because theyre from a private military he may have thought it would be okay for them to do it instead of the army which he would be directly responsible for and have to answer for.

Oh no I had nothing to do with it, I didnt tell them to do and I didnt tell someone to tell them to do it. Theyre a security company, not the army. Fake news

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The Trent
05/07/20 10:25:15 AM
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i fully believe this with no questions at all

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hockeybub89
05/07/20 10:25:26 AM
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ChuckSDeuces
05/07/20 10:25:42 AM
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CE not only falls for US and Chinese propaganda, but Venezuelan too.

How sad.

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Lebronwon
05/07/20 10:27:19 AM
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Surprised CE is falling for this. Haven't we learned from China or even Soviet Russia that governments do these false confessions type stuff.

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masterpug53
05/07/20 10:27:31 AM
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The Trent posted...
i fully believe this with no questions at all

In the case of Trump this is sadly more plausible than implausible, tbh.

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NinjaWarrior455
05/07/20 10:28:32 AM
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Could be fake, but it could also be true.

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hockeybub89
05/07/20 10:28:35 AM
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Lebronwon posted...
Surprised CE is falling for this. Haven't we learned from China or even Soviet Russia that governments to these false confessions type stuff.
I've also learned to never trust and always assume the worst about Trump.

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The Trent
05/07/20 10:28:43 AM
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masterpug53 posted...
In the case of Trump this is sadly more plausible than implausible, tbh.

i'm not saying it's not plausible
but now we are to suddenly, wholeheartedly trust state run media out of fucking venezuela?

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Garioshi
05/07/20 10:29:07 AM
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Trump literally put a bounty on Maduro's head worth more than the GDP of Venezuela so

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KillerSlaw
05/07/20 10:30:49 AM
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Garioshi posted...
Trump literally put a bounty on Maduro's head worth more than the GDP of Venezuela so

lol source? I never saw this but it'd be hilarious.

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Secretly
05/07/20 10:37:43 AM
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If you think this is fake, remember that the men caught trying to capture Maduro worked Trump rallies
Yeah, that's a pretty strong indicator that Trump was behind this farce.
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ChuckSDeuces
05/07/20 10:40:15 AM
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Do I believe they were there on orders of the Administration? Yes.

Do I believe Trump gave them the order directly? lol no.


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boxington
05/07/20 10:40:36 AM
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KillerSlaw posted...
lol source? I never saw this but it'd be hilarious.
https://tinyurl.com/yaaf3obn

The administration upped the ante on Venezuela on Thursday, unsealing indictments against President Nicols Maduro and several members of his inner circle on narcoterrorism charges and offering a $15 million bounty for information leading to Maduros capture and conviction.

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Secretly
05/07/20 10:41:27 AM
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ChuckSDeuces posted...
Do I believe they were there on orders of the Administration? Yes.

Do I believe Trump gave them the order directly? lol no.
Trump definitely signed off on it or okayed it at some point. He's not the type to allow his administration to make decisions without his input.
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masterpug53
05/07/20 10:42:13 AM
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The Trent posted...
i'm not saying it's not plausible
but now we are to suddenly, wholeheartedly trust state run media out of fucking venezuela?

Is anyone in this topic suddenly, wholeheartedly trusting state run media out of fucking venezuela?

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Prismsblade
05/07/20 10:44:10 AM
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Obviously fake, and no 'Trumps just that stupid', is not a valid argument.

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KillerSlaw
05/07/20 10:44:17 AM
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boxington posted...
https://tinyurl.com/yaaf3obn

lol then why even deny this at this point? "We put a bounty on the guy, but we didn't actually send the mercenaries after him!"


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Secretly
05/07/20 10:45:27 AM
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KillerSlaw posted...
lol then why even deny this at this point? "We put a bounty on the guy, but we didn't actually send the mercenaries after him!"

Doom_Art posted...
this particular president is really stupid, is the thing

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ChuckSDeuces
05/07/20 10:45:53 AM
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Secretly posted...
Trump definitely signed off on it or okayed it at some point. He's not the type to allow his administration to make decisions without his input.

Trump signing off on it isn't the same as him giving the order directly to the mercenaries, though.

It really doesn't mean much in the end, the main point I'm trying to make is that these guys are probably being tortured to say whatever the fuck they are told.

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KBGiantsfan
05/07/20 10:47:17 AM
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Trump isnt that stupid lol

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s0nicfan
05/07/20 10:47:20 AM
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I'm more likely to believe that Maduro hired this group to fake a botched kidnapping so that he could claim that the US is trying to have him removed than I am to believe forced confessions of somebody captured by a dictator.

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Bio1590
05/07/20 10:47:21 AM
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Tbh even if there is video of this (I'm assuming there is given all the other pictures/videos we've seen), I'd still question it because these guys are probably desperate enough to say anything if there's a chance they won't end up spending the rest of their lives rotting in a Venezuelan prison.

Trump is the type of person to completely abandon these guys as well, so I think they know they're fucked as long as he's in power.
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Bio1590
05/07/20 10:50:53 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
I'm more likely to believe that Maduro hired this group to fake a botched kidnapping so that he could claim that the US is trying to have him removed than I am to believe forced confessions of somebody captured by a dictator.

This group literally has zero reason to accept that contract.
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kingdrake2
05/07/20 10:51:23 AM
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i hope trump doesn't bail them out. the oath of silence is broken.
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hockeybub89
05/07/20 10:51:57 AM
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Prismsblade posted...
Obviously fake, and no 'Trumps just that stupid', is not a valid argument.
However stupid anyone thinks Trump is, they need to assume he could be at least 10 times worse. There are no potential limits. We have never experienced the stupidity we have experienced since late 2016.

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s0nicfan
05/07/20 10:52:28 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
This group literally has zero reason to accept that contract.


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Secretly
05/07/20 10:56:05 AM
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KBGiantsfan posted...
Trump isnt that stupid lol
Trump is definitely that stupid. His ego is so overblown that he probably wanted a "Go get him boys!" moment.
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BLAKUboy
05/07/20 11:13:06 AM
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KBGiantsfan posted...
Trump isnt that stupid lol
He explicitly is, is the thing.

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Calwings
05/07/20 11:18:19 AM
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It's most likely fake, but the fact that Trump is so stupid and egotistical that the chances of this actually being real are anything but literally zero is awful to think about.
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EnterTheTekken
05/07/20 11:23:44 AM
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Isn't that a tradecraft thing? When soldiers are captured, they rehearse responses over and over so when they are tortured, they don't give their true objective.

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Bio1590
05/07/20 11:26:27 AM
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That would imply these two guys were ever going to see the money.

Silvercorp and its founded are closely tied to Guaid, however.
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CADE FOSTER
05/07/20 11:38:17 AM
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People don think Trump would do this he can do whatever the fuck he wants nothing ever happens to him he def did order it
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Anteaterking
05/07/20 11:42:11 AM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Isn't that a tradecraft thing? When soldiers are captured, they rehearse responses over and over so when they are tortured, they don't give their true objective.

What objective could they have where "Trump directly ordered us to do this" is the best option they could come up with as a cover?

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blasster
05/07/20 11:46:45 AM
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If this is some sort of movie, that guy prob already got taken out by American agent, before he can say anything incriminating the president.

So my question would prob be, why would Trump use a mercenary anyway?

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BalisticWarri0r
05/07/20 11:53:02 AM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Isn't that a tradecraft thing? When soldiers are captured, they rehearse responses over and over so when they are tortured, they don't give their true objective.
You would have a cover and stick to your cover. These guys had no cover since they plastered their intentions all over social media.
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CADE FOSTER
05/07/20 11:54:17 AM
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Trumps a moron he doesnt want a war but he wants access to all that fucking oil
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NinjaBreakfast
05/07/20 11:54:36 AM
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the crossover of an extremely stupid president with an extremely stupid 'private security' group gives this a lot more credibility than it should have tbf

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monkmith
05/07/20 11:56:23 AM
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doubtful, you'll say anything under torture. trump is a fucking moron, but he's not going to send two random assholes to take out a countries leader; that's what special forces are for.

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Disengaged
05/07/20 11:57:39 AM
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EnterTheTekken posted...
Isn't that a tradecraft thing? When soldiers are captured, they rehearse responses over and over so when they are tortured, they don't give their true objective.

1. They arent soldiers.

2. Our true objective is obvious, kill fight die. We dont want to give the enemy Intel about how we are going to do that, like positions, force sizes, equipment, capabilities, plans, etc.

3. It's our name and military branch, and Id number, not some moronic sounding story, especially one that can be used as propaganda by the enemy forces true or not. That's fucking idiotic.

4. These guys pissed themselves, literally, after getting caught and detained by fucking fishermen.

5. As they have aptly demonstrated themselves to be hilariously cowardly pieces of shit who realized instantly that the 'conservative gun toting macho man' is just a stupid fantasy trope that instantly falls apart at a bloody nose or less, and that they are just posers, they would indeed say anything they were told to say if they thought it would save their skin.

6. This does not make it mutually exclusive to what they are saying being the actual truth.

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