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dib153 05/05/20 8:08:12 PM #53:	MrResetti posted... Quoted for grammatical context Goddamnit --- "Dib is my new hero. Epic insult man, epic to the max" ~ Drakona <cite>dib153 posted [p:938669916] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>MrResetti posted... </cite> <quote>Quoted for grammatical context</quote> Goddamnit </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 05/05/20 8:10:53 PM #55:	Houston posted... Why not just address them by their name? I can imagine some scenarios where they/them could be confusing if you're trying to tell a story that involves multiple people. a name, especially if they're trying to get it changed, can be triggering to some people --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:938670062] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Houston posted... </cite> <quote>Why not just address them by their name? I can imagine some scenarios where they/them could be confusing if you're trying to tell a story that involves multiple people.</quote>a name, especially if they're trying to get it changed, can be triggering to some people </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLastHero 05/05/20 8:12:48 PM #56:	There's literally no point in not using it if it's requested of you. It's not even confusing or disruptive like xer Everyone has used "they" to describe a singular person before without realizing it. I don't know why people on the internet are suddenly pretending it's not a thing <cite>TheLastHero posted [p:938670148] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>There's literally no point in not using it if it's requested of you. It's not even confusing or disruptive like xer Everyone has used "they" to describe a singular person before without realizing it. I don't know why people on the internet are suddenly pretending it's not a thing</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/05/20 8:13:42 PM #57:	"Believe in it?" I mean it exists and it is the right one to use for someone who is non-binary. --- Occam's razor: The simplest solution (answer) is most likely the right one <cite>creativerealms posted [p:938670190] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>"Believe in it?" I mean it exists and it is the right one to use for someone who is non-binary. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikiaz 05/05/20 8:15:23 PM #58:	The Bad Guy posted... I believe it exists as in people use it. but I also think it's stupid as fuck and would not comply with fragile snowflakes expecting me to use on his/her behalf. Why do you have to be this way? Why do you have to be rude and not just treat people with respect and how they want to be treated just because they are different than you? This view is just completely inconceivable to me. Youre just being rude for the sake of being rude. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. <cite>Rikiaz posted [p:938670280] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>The Bad Guy posted... </cite> <quote>I believe it exists as in people use it. but I also think it's stupid as fuck and would not comply with fragile snowflakes expecting me to use on his/her behalf.</quote>Why do you have to be this way? Why do you have to be rude and not just treat people with respect and how they want to be treated just because they are different than you? This view is just completely inconceivable to me. Youre just being rude for the sake of being rude. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLastHero 05/05/20 8:16:07 PM #59:	Rikiaz posted... Why do you have to be this way? Why do you have to be rude and not just treat people with respect and how they want to be treated just because they are different than you? This view is just completely inconceivable to me. Youre just being rude for the sake of being rude. Because he's the bad guy xd <cite>TheLastHero posted [p:938670311] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Rikiaz posted...</cite> <quote> Why do you have to be this way? Why do you have to be rude and not just treat people with respect and how they want to be treated just because they are different than you? This view is just completely inconceivable to me. Youre just being rude for the sake of being rude. </quote> Because he's the bad guy xd</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrResetti 05/05/20 8:16:48 PM #60:	Rikiaz posted... Why do you have to be this way? Why do you have to be rude and not just treat people with respect and how they want to be treated just because they are different than you? This view is just completely inconceivable to me. Youre just being rude for the sake of being rude. He used the term snow flake and his name is The Bad Guy. It's okay. --- https://imgur.com/GRZEGPm https://imgur.com/OeMgQZT <cite>MrResetti posted [p:938670348] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Rikiaz posted... </cite> <quote>Why do you have to be this way? Why do you have to be rude and not just treat people with respect and how they want to be treated just because they are different than you? This view is just completely inconceivable to me. Youre just being rude for the sake of being rude.</quote> He used the term snow flake and his name is The Bad Guy. It's okay. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pepys Monster 05/05/20 8:17:22 PM #61:	Nope. I believe in science. --- GOML <cite>Pepys Monster posted [p:938670377] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Nope. I believe in science. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikiaz 05/05/20 8:18:12 PM #62:	TheLastHero posted... Because he's the bad guy xd MrResetti posted... He used the term snow flake and his name is The Bad Guy. It's okay. Im extending that response to all people who actually feel that way. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. <cite>Rikiaz posted [p:938670423] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>TheLastHero posted... </cite> <quote>Because he's the bad guy xd</quote> MrResetti posted... </cite> <quote>He used the term snow flake and his name is The Bad Guy. It's okay.</quote>Im extending that response to all people who actually feel that way. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pogo_Marimo 05/05/20 8:18:12 PM #63:	averagejoel posted... if you want to object to the singular they, you should probably at least make an effort to not use the singular they when doing so lmfao --- I presume my time here in my darkblack dragondark steel-obliterating solitude has come to its end as well. http://www.last.fm/user/Pogo92 <cite>Pogo_Marimo posted [p:938670424] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>averagejoel posted... </cite> <quote>if you want to object to the singular they, you should probably at least make an effort to not use the singular they when doing so</quote>lmfao </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 05/05/20 8:19:01 PM #64:	Pepys Monster posted... I believe in science. Clearly not. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:938670470] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Pepys Monster posted...</cite> <quote>I believe in science.</quote> Clearly not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VanananaHeyHey 05/05/20 8:19:36 PM #65:	As the official linguist and likely only radical feminist, here's the skinny: -'They' has been used as a singular pronoun in English for hundreds of years. Its use was common until Latin-loving pedants in the 1600 to 1800s concocted 'grammar rules' that did not conform to actual English grammar, such as not ending sentences with prepositions (possible in many Germanic languages; not possible in Latin) and using 'he' as the neutral word for hypothetical people. At the time those men were being their most pedantic, they were also among the literate minority, so they got to write as many books as they wanted about how right their attempt to turn English into a conlang was. Those rules were then taught top-down as more robust public schooling took hold, but we still see that people trend towards the variants that are natural to their language, from prepositions to pronouns. -In modern times 'they' is commonly used even by speakers who oppose gender diverse pronouns in relaying anecdotes. This is used in two ways. One is in reference to a stand in for 'society' or 'experts': e.g. "They say you should drink water and eat vegetables every day." Another is in passing, inconsequential reference to a specific, but unremarkable, person already known in the context of a conversation, often whether explicit gender markers are used elsewhere or not: "I went up to the clerk and I said I needed a refund, but they said no, so I was like, listen, buddy, go get your manager." -It is both singular and plural, just like 'you.' How is that so difficult for so many naysayers to realize, or indeed, to feel silly before saying it? You would say "they are" just like you say "you are." -It's ironic to me that so many of the same people (on tumblr and Facebook; not sure about anyone here) who advocate for singular 'they' are also the people most likely to post things about how necessary and romantic t/usted, tu/vous distinctions are, to valorize 'vosotros,' and to appropriate 'y'all' into their suburban idiolect. -Ultimately, I think everyone should be 'they' in the third person. There should not be sex- or gender-based pronouns. Many languages don't have them. The only reason they exist in the first place is because societies thought it was important to distinguish between male people as Men and female people as Women for the same reason they distinguished between dog/bitch, bull/cow, rooster/hen, etc.: managing breeding stock. There was never validation or affirmation anywhere in the equation. I, You(s), They(s), You(p), We, They(p) would be perfectly sufficient. -'It' is used for objects that are not humans, including (but not always) animals. The plural is, uncontroversially, 'they.' Thus, in strict technical terms, the broad adoption of the pronoun 'they' wouldn't solve the insult of calling a person 'it.' -No one should call people 'it.' That's a matter of common decency. Since 'they' exists commonly for speakers in other contexts, using 'they' shouldn't be too big a stretch. -If someone elects to use a neopronoun for themselves, they should also be willing to accept the native pronoun 'they' amongst the public and from acquaintances. Pronouns are not an open class of words in English, unlike nouns, so they are not as easily incorporated into the language or readily parsed. This is why analogies by liberal feminists to "If you can use a Pokmon's evolution's name, you can use neopronouns!" fall flat. -In fourth grade, I wrote "s/he" in a paper as a pronoun to mean "one," basically and the teacher crossed it out with "This breaks up the flow of reading. Write 'he or she'" and I will never, ever understand how that tedious clunker is supposed to be more pleasant. Edit: I don't actually like "one" that much, but it does have a useful purpose that "they" can't fill alone. "One" needs a bit more currency. Though I suppose I see "someone" pretty often, so I guess "one" just evolved. Nice. --- Please, call me Vanai. CE's official linguist, War-tor-le and Charizard <cite>VanananaHeyHey posted [p:938670496] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>As the official linguist and likely only radical feminist, here's the skinny: -'They' has been used as a singular pronoun in English for hundreds of years. Its use was common until Latin-loving pedants in the 1600 to 1800s concocted 'grammar rules' that did not conform to actual English grammar, such as not ending sentences with prepositions (possible in many Germanic languages; not possible in Latin) and using 'he' as the neutral word for hypothetical people. At the time those men were being their most pedantic, they were also among the literate minority, so they got to write as many books as they wanted about how right their attempt to turn English into a conlang was. Those rules were then taught top-down as more robust public schooling took hold, but we still see that people trend towards the variants that are natural to their language, from prepositions to pronouns. -In modern times 'they' is commonly used even by speakers who oppose gender diverse pronouns in relaying anecdotes. This is used in two ways. One is in reference to a stand in for 'society' or 'experts': e.g. "They say you should drink water and eat vegetables every day." Another is in passing, inconsequential reference to a specific, but unremarkable, person already known in the context of a conversation, often whether explicit gender markers are used elsewhere or not: "I went up to the clerk and I said I needed a refund, but they said no, so I was like, listen, buddy, go get your manager." -It is both singular and plural, just like 'you.' How is that so difficult for so many naysayers to realize, or indeed, to feel silly before saying it? You would say "they are" just like you say "you are." -It's ironic to me that so many of the same people (on tumblr and Facebook; not sure about anyone here) who advocate for singular 'they' are also the people most likely to post things about how necessary and romantic t/usted, tu/vous distinctions are, to valorize 'vosotros,' and to appropriate 'y'all' into their suburban idiolect. -Ultimately, I think everyone should be 'they' in the third person. There should not be sex- or gender-based pronouns. Many languages don't have them. The only reason they exist in the first place is because societies thought it was important to distinguish between male people as Men and female people as Women for the same reason they distinguished between dog/bitch, bull/cow, rooster/hen, etc.: managing breeding stock. There was never validation or affirmation anywhere in the equation. I, You(s), They(s), You(p), We, They(p) would be perfectly sufficient. -'It' is used for objects that are not humans, including (but not always) animals. The plural is, uncontroversially, 'they.' Thus, in strict technical terms, the broad adoption of the pronoun 'they' wouldn't solve the insult of calling a person 'it.' -No one should call people 'it.' That's a matter of common decency. Since 'they' exists commonly for speakers in other contexts, using 'they' shouldn't be too big a stretch. -If someone elects to use a neopronoun for themselves, they should also be willing to accept the native pronoun 'they' amongst the public and from acquaintances. Pronouns are not an open class of words in English, unlike nouns, so they are not as easily incorporated into the language or readily parsed. This is why analogies by liberal feminists to "If you can use a Pokmon's evolution's name, you can use neopronouns!" fall flat. -In fourth grade, I wrote "s/he" in a paper as a pronoun to mean "one," basically and the teacher crossed it out with "This breaks up the flow of reading. Write 'he or she'" and I will never, ever understand how that tedious clunker is supposed to be more pleasant. Edit: I don't actually like "one" that much, but it does have a useful purpose that "they" can't fill alone. "One" needs a bit more currency. Though I suppose I see "someone" pretty often, so I guess "one" just evolved. Nice. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Doe 05/05/20 8:20:15 PM #66:	Yikes, CE. They is a valid pronoun. --- This signature won't be changed until at least one out of Astrograph Sorcerer, Double-Iris Magician, Performapal Monkeyboard or Electrumite is unbanned. 2/15/20 <cite>Doe posted [p:938670527] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Yikes, CE. They is a valid pronoun. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Garioshi 05/05/20 8:26:00 PM #67:	VanananaHeyHey posted... As the official linguist and likely only radical feminist, here's the skinny: -'They' has been used as a singular pronoun in English for hundreds of years. Its use was common until Latin-loving pedants in the 1600 to 1800s concocted 'grammar rules' that did not conform to actual English grammar, such as not ending sentences with prepositions (possible in many Germanic languages; not possible in Latin) and using 'he' as the neutral word for hypothetical people. At the time those men were being their most pedantic, they were also among the literate minority, so they got to write as many books as they wanted about how right their attempt to turn English into a conlang was. Those rules were then taught top-down as more robust public schooling took hold, but we still see that people trend towards the variants that are natural to their language, from prepositions to pronouns. -In modern times 'they' is commonly used even by speakers who oppose gender diverse pronouns in relaying anecdotes. This is used in two ways. One is in reference to a stand in for 'society' or 'experts': e.g. "They say you should drink water and eat vegetables every day." Another is in passing, inconsequential reference to a specific, but unremarkable, person already known in the context of a conversation, often whether explicit gender markers are used elsewhere or not: "I went up to the clerk and I said I needed a refund, but they said no, so I was like, listen, buddy, go get your manager." -It is both singular and plural, just like 'you.' How is that so difficult for so many naysayers to realize, or indeed, to feel silly before saying it? You would say "they are" just like you say "you are." -It's ironic to me that so many of the same people (on tumblr and Facebook; not sure about anyone here) who advocate for singular 'they' are also the people most likely to post things about how necessary and romantic t/usted, tu/vous distinctions are, and to appropriate 'y'all' into their suburban idiolect. -Ultimately, I think everyone should be 'they' in the third person. There should not be sex- or gender-based pronouns. Many languages don't have them. The only reason they exist in the first place is because societies thought it was important to distinguish between male people as Men and female people as Women for the same reason they distinguished between dog/bitch, bull/cow, rooster/hen, etc.: managing breeding stock. There was never validation or affirmation anywhere in the equation. I, You(s), They(s), You(p), We, They(p) would be perfectly sufficient. -'It' is used for objects that are not humans, including (but not always) animals. The plural is, uncontroversially, 'they.' Thus, in strict technical terms, the broad adoption of the pronoun 'they' wouldn't solve the insult of calling a person 'it.' -No one should call people 'it.' That's a matter of common decency. Since 'they' exists commonly for speakers in other contexts, using 'they' shouldn't be too big a stretch. -If someone elects to use a neopronoun for themselves, they should also be willing to accept the native pronoun 'they' amongst the public and from acquaintances. Pronouns are not an open class of words in English, unlike nouns, so they are not as easily incorporated into the language or readily parsed. This is why analogies by liberal feminists to "If you can use a Pokmon's evolution's name, you can use neopronouns!" fall flat. -In fourth grade, I wrote "s/he" in a paper as a pronoun to mean "one," basically and the teacher crossed it out with "This breaks up the flow of reading. Write 'he or she'" and I will never, ever understand how that tedious clunker is supposed to be more pleasant. Bullseye. Topic over. --- "I play with myself" - Darklit_Minuet, 2018 <cite>Garioshi posted [p:938670813] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>VanananaHeyHey posted... </cite> <quote>As the official linguist and likely only radical feminist, here's the skinny: -'They' has been used as a singular pronoun in English for hundreds of years. Its use was common until Latin-loving pedants in the 1600 to 1800s concocted 'grammar rules' that did not conform to actual English grammar, such as not ending sentences with prepositions (possible in many Germanic languages; not possible in Latin) and using 'he' as the neutral word for hypothetical people. At the time those men were being their most pedantic, they were also among the literate minority, so they got to write as many books as they wanted about how right their attempt to turn English into a conlang was. Those rules were then taught top-down as more robust public schooling took hold, but we still see that people trend towards the variants that are natural to their language, from prepositions to pronouns. -In modern times 'they' is commonly used even by speakers who oppose gender diverse pronouns in relaying anecdotes. This is used in two ways. One is in reference to a stand in for 'society' or 'experts': e.g. "They say you should drink water and eat vegetables every day." Another is in passing, inconsequential reference to a specific, but unremarkable, person already known in the context of a conversation, often whether explicit gender markers are used elsewhere or not: "I went up to the clerk and I said I needed a refund, but they said no, so I was like, listen, buddy, go get your manager." -It is both singular and plural, just like 'you.' How is that so difficult for so many naysayers to realize, or indeed, to feel silly before saying it? You would say "they are" just like you say "you are." -It's ironic to me that so many of the same people (on tumblr and Facebook; not sure about anyone here) who advocate for singular 'they' are also the people most likely to post things about how necessary and romantic t/usted, tu/vous distinctions are, and to appropriate 'y'all' into their suburban idiolect. -Ultimately, I think everyone should be 'they' in the third person. There should not be sex- or gender-based pronouns. Many languages don't have them. The only reason they exist in the first place is because societies thought it was important to distinguish between male people as Men and female people as Women for the same reason they distinguished between dog/bitch, bull/cow, rooster/hen, etc.: managing breeding stock. There was never validation or affirmation anywhere in the equation. I, You(s), They(s), You(p), We, They(p) would be perfectly sufficient. -'It' is used for objects that are not humans, including (but not always) animals. The plural is, uncontroversially, 'they.' Thus, in strict technical terms, the broad adoption of the pronoun 'they' wouldn't solve the insult of calling a person 'it.' -No one should call people 'it.' That's a matter of common decency. Since 'they' exists commonly for speakers in other contexts, using 'they' shouldn't be too big a stretch. -If someone elects to use a neopronoun for themselves, they should also be willing to accept the native pronoun 'they' amongst the public and from acquaintances. Pronouns are not an open class of words in English, unlike nouns, so they are not as easily incorporated into the language or readily parsed. This is why analogies by liberal feminists to "If you can use a Pokmon's evolution's name, you can use neopronouns!" fall flat. -In fourth grade, I wrote "s/he" in a paper as a pronoun to mean "one," basically and the teacher crossed it out with "This breaks up the flow of reading. Write 'he or she'" and I will never, ever understand how that tedious clunker is supposed to be more pleasant.</quote>Bullseye. Topic over. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 05/05/20 8:27:19 PM #68:	I use it when I don't know the gender of the individual being discussed. If someone identities with those pronouns I'll use them as well, no good reason to refuse besides wanting to be a parody of a /pol/ troll --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:938670890] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>I use it when I don't know the gender of the individual being discussed. If someone identities with those pronouns I'll use them as well, no good reason to refuse besides wanting to be a parody of a /pol/ troll </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LightningAce11 05/05/20 8:29:14 PM #69:	It's been a pronoun for centuries. --- I want you to grab your nuts. Grab your balls. I want you to take a handful, and just grab your nuts real quick. Swivel 'em around in a circular motion. -LTG <cite>LightningAce11 posted [p:938670963] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>It's been a pronoun for centuries. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Scotty_Rogers 05/05/20 8:29:20 PM #70:	It's fine. --- Putting out doesn't solve problems. <cite>Scotty_Rogers posted [p:938670972] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>It's fine. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bestoffuture 05/05/20 8:29:36 PM #71:	I seriously thought CE was more progressive than this. The fuck lol. --- Proud leader of the PeyPals "I don't take any responsibility at all."- President Donald J. Trump <cite>Bestoffuture posted [p:938670983] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>I seriously thought CE was more progressive than this. The fuck lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrResetti 05/05/20 8:34:28 PM #72:	VanananaHeyHey posted... and to appropriate 'y'all Using the word appropriate makes it negative. As a southerner I wholeheartedly encourage everyone to say y'all. Think of it more as adopting, not stealing. I know it's off topic, shit just irked me. --- https://imgur.com/GRZEGPm https://imgur.com/OeMgQZT <cite>MrResetti posted [p:938671197] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>VanananaHeyHey posted... </cite> <quote>and to appropriate 'y'all</quote>Using the word appropriate makes it negative. As a southerner I wholeheartedly encourage everyone to say y'all. Think of it more as adopting, not stealing. I know it's off topic, shit just irked me. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tactical_Spork 05/05/20 8:38:23 PM #73:	Some of yall fucking suck ass tbh especially those saying they go out of their way not to respect it or will avoid someone for using it greasy fuckin bigot nerds lol also yall is not being appropriated lol it is just much less tedious and awkward than you all and solves the issue of the gendering of you guys --- butthole666 https://imgur.com/6GJoJ <cite>Tactical_Spork posted [p:938671375] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Some of yall fucking suck ass tbh especially those saying they go out of their way not to respect it or will avoid someone for using it greasy fuckin bigot nerds lol also yall is not being appropriated lol it is just much less tedious and awkward than you all and solves the issue of the gendering of you guys </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 05/05/20 8:44:46 PM #74:	I'll call anyone whatever they want because I'm not a dick. But if I call you the wrong pronoun and you flip out on me, you can fuck right the fuck off. At that point I'm not even gonna humor your existence long enough to call you the proper pronoun. But if you kindly correct me I'm gonna be super apologetic and make sure it never happens again. --- Life is pain and misery beat skeet to asian street meat <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:938671691] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>I'll call anyone whatever they want because I'm not a dick. But if I call you the wrong pronoun and you flip out on me, you can fuck right the fuck off. At that point I'm not even gonna humor your existence long enough to call you the proper pronoun. But if you kindly correct me I'm gonna be super apologetic and make sure it never happens again. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 05/05/20 8:47:47 PM #75:	BettyWhite posted... I'll call anyone whatever they want because I'm not a dick. But if I call you the wrong pronoun and you flip out on me, you can fuck right the fuck off. At that point I'm not even gonna humor your existence long enough to call you the proper pronoun. But if you kindly correct me I'm gonna be super apologetic and make sure it never happens again. this. if I'm corrected, I'll call them what they want as long as they don't forget to put some respect on that correction. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:938671821] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>BettyWhite posted...</cite> <quote>I'll call anyone whatever they want because I'm not a dick. But if I call you the wrong pronoun and you flip out on me, you can fuck right the fuck off. At that point I'm not even gonna humor your existence long enough to call you the proper pronoun. But if you kindly correct me I'm gonna be super apologetic and make sure it never happens again. </quote> this. if I'm corrected, I'll call them what they want as long as they don't forget to put some respect on that correction.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Drumpf 05/05/20 8:49:31 PM #76:	This is my most popular topic --- Favorite game? Pong! <cite>Drumpf posted [p:938671910] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>This is my most popular topic </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bestoffuture 05/05/20 8:50:17 PM #77:	BettyWhite posted... I'll call anyone whatever they want because I'm not a dick. But if I call you the wrong pronoun and you flip out on me, you can fuck right the fuck off. At that point I'm not even gonna humor your existence long enough to call you the proper pronoun. But if you kindly correct me I'm gonna be super apologetic and make sure it never happens again. This is the correct, normal human response. --- Proud leader of the PeyPals "I don't take any responsibility at all."- President Donald J. Trump <cite>Bestoffuture posted [p:938671937] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>BettyWhite posted... </cite> <quote>I'll call anyone whatever they want because I'm not a dick. But if I call you the wrong pronoun and you flip out on me, you can fuck right the fuck off. At that point I'm not even gonna humor your existence long enough to call you the proper pronoun. But if you kindly correct me I'm gonna be super apologetic and make sure it never happens again.</quote> This is the correct, normal human response. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/20 8:53:21 PM #78:	Bestoffuture posted... This is the correct, normal human response. is that even allowed on CE? /s --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:938672090] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Bestoffuture posted... </cite> <quote>This is the correct, normal human response.</quote>is that even allowed on CE? /s </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheLastHero 05/05/20 8:54:56 PM #79:	How can anyone seriously tell me with a straight face that they've never called someone else "they" when they didn't know their gender, especially on the internet when you're not going to know or have an idea of right off the bat <cite>TheLastHero posted [p:938672170] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>How can anyone seriously tell me with a straight face that they've never called someone else "they" when they didn't know their gender, especially on the internet when you're not going to know or have an idea of right off the bat</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ASithLord7 05/05/20 8:56:27 PM #80:	Bestoffuture posted... I seriously thought CE was more progressive than this. The fuck lol. Idk what board you've been posting on --- https://imgur.com/VZeCB RebelElite791 <cite>ASithLord7 posted [p:938672242] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Bestoffuture posted... </cite> <quote>I seriously thought CE was more progressive than this. The fuck lol.</quote>Idk what board you've been posting on </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BettyWhite 05/05/20 8:59:05 PM #81:	Aw. Having 2 people agree with me feels good. Feels good. --- Life is pain and misery beat skeet to asian street meat <cite>BettyWhite posted [p:938672364] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Aw. Having 2 people agree with me feels good. Feels good. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bestoffuture 05/05/20 9:02:48 PM #82:	ASithLord7 posted... Idk what board you've been posting on I mean, I knew CE was full of assholes but I thought this board was a majority Bernie supporters. --- Proud leader of the PeyPals "I don't take any responsibility at all."- President Donald J. Trump <cite>Bestoffuture posted [p:938672535] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>ASithLord7 posted... </cite> <quote>Idk what board you've been posting on</quote> I mean, I knew CE was full of assholes but I thought this board was a majority Bernie supporters. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VanananaHeyHey 05/05/20 9:04:01 PM #83:	Tactical_Spork posted... yall is not being appropriated lol it is just much less tedious and awkward than you all and solves the issue of the gendering of you guys Not gonna start a whole thing, but "y'all" predominates in the South, which many tumblars will gleefully condemn writ large as despicable, but they gobble up "y'all" and "fol[ks]." It is textbook-definition 'appropriation' in the 'bad way,' but even if you support its spread, it is also literally what it is in the neutral way: "the adoption of elements of one culture by members of another culture." That's not even a moral judgment on my part; I prefer fewer pronouns overall, but that's as far as I care about its adoption. I also see "yous(e)" floated sometimes, which I just can't with, personally, but that's a matter of regional rivalry, not linguistics. For the record, I'm from the South in a part that is, uh, you know, 'proud' of being South, but I lived near D.C., London and Seattle throughout my twenties and now I'm back in the same town I grew up in; I'm 31. The number of people who use "y'all" here" is probably around 25%-40%, with an uptick since I graduated high school. "You" is already a singular and plural pronoun. "You all" is an optional distinction if you need, but is infrequently necessary. I assure you, I don't need to be told about the problems with the male default. All the second wavers covered that long ago. As a trivium, some languages have exclusive 'we' and I find that pretty keen, but I'm not looking to bring it into English. My understanding is that Arabic also conjugates by addressee sex. Pronouns and linguistic genderfangles are a pretty cool subarea of study. Edited lots to include the cultural appropriate drafts because I'm a pedant just like those linguisticians of the 1600 to 1800s. Will stop the derail now. --- Please, call me Vanai. CE's official linguist, War-tor-le and Charizard <cite>VanananaHeyHey posted [p:938672602] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Tactical_Spork posted... </cite> <quote>yall is not being appropriated lol it is just much less tedious and awkward than you all and solves the issue of the gendering of you guys</quote>Not gonna start a whole thing, but "y'all" predominates in the South, which many tumblars will gleefully condemn writ large as despicable, but they gobble up "y'all" and "fol[ks]." It is textbook-definition 'appropriation' in the 'bad way,' but even if you support its spread, it is also literally what it is in the neutral way: "the adoption of elements of one culture by members of another culture." That's not even a moral judgment on my part; I prefer fewer pronouns overall, but that's as far as I care about its adoption. I also see "yous(e)" floated sometimes, which I just can't with, personally, but that's a matter of regional rivalry, not linguistics. For the record, I'm from the South in a part that is, uh, you know, 'proud' of being South, but I lived near D.C., London and Seattle throughout my twenties and now I'm back in the same town I grew up in; I'm 31. The number of people who use "y'all" here" is probably around 25%-40%, with an uptick since I graduated high school. "You" is already a singular and plural pronoun. "You all" is an optional distinction if you need, but is infrequently necessary. I assure you, I don't need to be told about the problems with the male default. All the second wavers covered that long ago. As a trivium, some languages have exclusive 'we' and I find that pretty keen, but I'm not looking to bring it into English. My understanding is that Arabic also conjugates by addressee sex. Pronouns and linguistic genderfangles are a pretty cool subarea of study. Edited lots to include the cultural appropriate drafts because I'm a pedant just like those linguisticians of the 1600 to 1800s. Will stop the derail now. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 05/05/20 9:04:31 PM #84:	BettyWhite posted... I'll call anyone whatever they want because I'm not a dick. But if I call you the wrong pronoun and you flip out on me, you can fuck right the fuck off. At that point I'm not even gonna humor your existence long enough to call you the proper pronoun. But if you kindly correct me I'm gonna be super apologetic and make sure it never happens again. At the end of the day this but I'm not going to respect anyone who says don't assume their gender without saying what it is beforehand --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:938672626] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>BettyWhite posted... </cite> <quote>I'll call anyone whatever they want because I'm not a dick. But if I call you the wrong pronoun and you flip out on me, you can fuck right the fuck off. At that point I'm not even gonna humor your existence long enough to call you the proper pronoun. But if you kindly correct me I'm gonna be super apologetic and make sure it never happens again.</quote>At the end of the day this but I'm not going to respect anyone who says don't assume their gender without saying what it is beforehand </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RebelElite791 05/05/20 9:05:10 PM #85:	Y'all is a great word and should be adopted across American English. Pretending it's appropriation is maybe the stupidest shit I've seen this week. --- Einsprachigkeit ist heilbar https://imgur.com/MS5SvzN <cite>RebelElite791 posted [p:938672658] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Y'all is a great word and should be adopted across American English. Pretending it's appropriation is maybe the stupidest shit I've seen this week. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MrResetti 05/05/20 9:05:15 PM #86:	Y'allre thinking way too much about it. --- https://imgur.com/GRZEGPm https://imgur.com/OeMgQZT <cite>MrResetti posted [p:938672662] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Y'allre thinking way too much about it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MaverickXeo 05/05/20 9:05:37 PM #87:	It is 'othering' more than anything. --- --- MaverickXeo --- <cite>MaverickXeo posted [p:938672678] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>It is 'othering' more than anything. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathDeathSong 05/05/20 9:11:15 PM #88:	phrasing it as "believing" in it is so weird its like do you "believe" in strawberry milk or something idk maybe its cause my pronouns are they/them but this topic is just weird --- MY HEARTS GO OUT TO ALL YOU SINNERS!! Let me tell you about Deltarune https://i.imgtc.com/dcuHj3G.gif <cite>DeathDeathSong posted [p:938672898] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>phrasing it as "believing" in it is so weird its like do you "believe" in strawberry milk or something idk maybe its cause my pronouns are they/them but this topic is just weird </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Paper_Okami 05/05/20 9:19:27 PM #89:	https://twitter.com/9_volt_/status/1127612977585299457 shocked that there haven't been any dumb jokes in this topic but here it is just in case --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie <cite>Paper_Okami posted [p:938673291] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>https://twitter.com/9_volt_/status/1127612977585299457 shocked that there haven't been any dumb jokes in this topic but here it is just in case </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
StickFigures720 05/05/20 9:20:01 PM #90:	nemu posted... It's the best option compared to "it" being dehumanizing and nonsense like "xir." --- "I need a drink." <cite>StickFigures720 posted [p:938673311] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>nemu posted... </cite> <quote>It's the best option compared to "it" being dehumanizing and nonsense like "xir."</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MutantJohn 05/05/20 9:20:36 PM #91:	Singular they is great --- "Oh, my mother; oh, my friends, ask the angels, will I ever see heaven again?" - Laura Marling <cite>MutantJohn posted [p:938673346] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Singular they is great</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TroutPaste 05/05/20 9:23:15 PM #92:	Bestoffuture posted... I seriously thought CE was more progressive than this. The fuck lol. CE? Really --- https://steamcommunity.com/id/Acerbic89 https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1488-free-games <cite>TroutPaste posted [p:938673465] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Bestoffuture posted... </cite> <quote>I seriously thought CE was more progressive than this. The fuck lol.</quote> CE? Really </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
supercurrymax 05/05/20 9:26:48 PM #93:	Someone calls on the phone you answer. You're done. Someone else asks what did THEY want. You already do it all the fucking time --- i like chicken. <cite>supercurrymax posted [p:938673624] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Someone calls on the phone you answer. You're done. Someone else asks what did THEY want. You already do it all the fucking time </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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187mike 05/05/20 10:24:33 PM #95:	It takes time and practice to get used to it. Years back I got shit for it from some coworkers for not knowing they go by that pronoun until they corrected me. This usage of "They" was never even taught in my schools so I had no idea. Now I just assume everyone goes by they or I just refer to them by their name. No one has a problem with it. --- #ALLELITE <cite>187mike posted [p:938676160] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>It takes time and practice to get used to it. Years back I got shit for it from some coworkers for not knowing they go by that pronoun until they corrected me. This usage of "They" was never even taught in my schools so I had no idea. Now I just assume everyone goes by they or I just refer to them by their name. No one has a problem with it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pepper2012 05/05/20 10:29:06 PM #96:	187mike posted... Now I just assume everyone goes by they Okay but that's also incorrect <cite>pepper2012 posted [p:938676356] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>187mike posted... </cite> <quote>Now I just assume everyone goes by they</quote> Okay but that's also incorrect </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
187mike 05/05/20 10:31:41 PM #97:	I've never heard of a he or she get mad if you refer to them as they. I always thought it just meant "person" lol --- #ALLELITE <cite>187mike posted [p:938676486] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>I've never heard of a he or she get mad if you refer to them as they. I always thought it just meant "person" lol </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
inloveanddeath0 05/05/20 10:35:42 PM #98:	187mike posted... I've never heard of a he or she get mad if you refer to them as they. I always thought it just meant "person" lol Well if you live in a smaller city this type of thing is extremely rare. I would get more weird looks from strangers where I live of I didn't use the standard he/she. Except the college town 30 miles away but that's the students not the permanent resisdents --- http://www.last.fm/user/PolarPolaroids <cite>inloveanddeath0 posted [p:938676700] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>187mike posted... </cite> <quote>I've never heard of a he or she get mad if you refer to them as they. I always thought it just meant "person" lol</quote>Well if you live in a smaller city this type of thing is extremely rare. I would get more weird looks from strangers where I live of I didn't use the standard he/she. Except the college town 30 miles away but that's the students not the permanent resisdents </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pepper2012 05/05/20 10:36:26 PM #99:	Isn't dude gender neutral now as well? <cite>pepper2012 posted [p:938676731] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Isn't dude gender neutral now as well? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
187mike 05/05/20 10:37:06 PM #100:	I don't know. I just do my best to communicate in a way so that it just means singular they. --- #ALLELITE <cite>187mike posted [p:938676767] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>I don't know. I just do my best to communicate in a way so that it just means singular they. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SgtLunatics 05/05/20 11:05:39 PM #101:	Nope. Would go into detail but would probably get moderated for it. No such thing as free speech ^^ --- PSN: SgtLunatics, XBO: SgtLunatics114, Switch: SW-0806-1869-5580 <cite>SgtLunatics posted [p:938678217] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>Nope. Would go into detail but would probably get moderated for it. No such thing as free speech ^^ </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DeathDeathSong 05/05/20 11:07:54 PM #102:	SgtLunatics posted... Nope. Would go into detail but would probably get moderated for it. No such thing as free speech ^^ i dont get it though how do you not believe in something that exists do you like, not believe in the sun either? do you consider water to be a myth? im a they, do you consider me a spooky ghost? --- MY HEARTS GO OUT TO ALL YOU SINNERS!! Let me tell you about Deltarune https://i.imgtc.com/dcuHj3G.gif <cite>DeathDeathSong posted [p:938678330] in Do you bel... [t:78660868]...</cite> <quote>SgtLunatics posted... </cite> <quote>Nope. Would go into detail but would probably get moderated for it. No such thing as free speech ^^</quote>i dont get it though how do you not believe in something that exists do you like, not believe in the sun either? do you consider water to be a myth? im a they, do you consider me a spooky ghost? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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