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UnfairRepresent
03/21/20 7:52:09 AM
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MSNBC host Rachel Maddow urged television networks not to air White House updates on the coronavirus outbreak, claiming "misinformation" from President Trump will "cost lives."

"I know we ought to be getting used to this kind of thing by now, but I'm not," Maddow began Friday night. "President Trump today, again, just flat-out wrong in public about this malaria drug that has gotten stuck in his mind, quite some distance from the facts."

The liberal primetime host was referring to Trump's claim Friday that the drug they're hoping to use against the coronavirus is "effective," but Dr. Anthony Fauci of the White House task force quickly walked back the claim, saying it had not gone through a clinical trial and how the FDA previously stated that the drug had not been approved to combat the coronavirus.

"But the president loves saying things like, you know, 'There's a drug we've got and it's very effective. It's approved already! Everybody's gonna get it.' He loves saying things like that because that would be a lovely thing to be able to tell people, unless of course that's not true in which case telling people a fairytale like that is cruel and harmful and needlessly diverting and wildly irresponsible from anyone in any leadership role," Maddow said.

"It's actually wildly irresponsible if somebody said that to you from a bar stool, if any of us could go to bars anymore, but to get that from somebody at the presidential podium? Nevertheless, he keeps doing it."
Maddow then listed numerous claims that were made by the president that reports had refuted from the availability of tests, the readiness of the medical ships that are supposed to dock in New York City and in California, to supplies of ventilators and respirator masks.

"There is a clear pattern here in this crisis of the president promising stuff that he knows America would love to hear but it's not true. And even stuff that he's saying that he will do that the federal government will do, he's not doing," Maddow told her viewers.

"I feel like we should innoculate ourselves against the harmful impact of these ongoing false promises and false statements by the president by recognizing that when he is talking about the coronavirus epidemic, more often than not, he is lying. Even when he's talking about what he has done or what he will do, he is consistently lying and giving you happy talk that is stuff that the federal government isn't actually doing. And it's making people around the country count on the fact that the federal government is doing that stuff when they're not."

She continued, "And so the sooner we come to terms with that, I think the better for all of us. If it were up to me, and it's not, I would stop putting those briefings on live TV. Not out of spite but because it's misinformation. If the president does end up saying anything true, you can run it as tape but if he keeps lying like this every day on stuff this important, all of us should stop broadcasting it. Honestly, it's gonna cost lives."


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I don't know if I agree

I''m no fan of Trump but people need to rally behind their leaders in a time of crisis. Hiding Trump away like a wittle bunny wabbit will just make Americans more scared.

If the UK didn't have people pretending to be Churchill on the Radio making dramatic speeches they would have lost the Battle of Britain and the Nazis would have won WW2.

The solution here is to properly prepare Trump, not to hide him like a sitcom where you're gay but pretend not to be when your parents are around so you hide your husband and get your co-worker to pretend to be your wife for a weekend. That's not helpful.

Just get him pre-prepared comments or have him present and talking up togetherness and the US while someone else does the big talk.
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Jagr_68
03/21/20 7:59:34 AM
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She likely thought this sheltered theory sounded extremely brilliant in her head...

Do your jobs and we'll decide whether to be informed or not about that fucking scumbag. Not knowing anything is ignorance.

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KillerSlaw
03/21/20 8:01:25 AM
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lol fuck off Maddow you corporate stooge

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bkkorps
03/21/20 8:22:27 AM
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There is another old guy spreading misinformation that will kill people.

https://twitter.com/JoeBiden/status/1239200647616004096?s=20

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s0nicfan
03/21/20 8:27:14 AM
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She could just not talk about Trump on her show, but her ratings would tank.

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Resaix
03/21/20 9:42:47 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
rally behind their leaders
Trump isn't a leader to America though. He doesn't act like one at all.
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Antifar
03/21/20 9:43:44 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I''m no fan of Trump but people need to rally behind their leaders in a time of crisis.

Disagree
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DezDroppedFreak
03/21/20 9:54:28 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I''m no fan of Trump but people need to rally behind their leaders in a time of crisis. Hiding Trump away like a wittle bunny wabbit will just make Americans more scared
Trust me. No it will not. He directly contradicts his experts on the situation literally every time hes in front of a mic. Not to mention his little temper tantrum yesterday over a softball question. Cut his mic. Let Pence deliver addresses because even though hes a massive piece of shit at least hes professional in delivery and tone

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UnfairRepresent
03/21/20 9:55:27 AM
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Resaix posted...

Trump isn't a leader to America though. He doesn't act like one at all.

He's the president

DezDroppedFreak posted...

Trust me. No it will not. He directly contradicts his experts on the situation literally every time hes in front of a mic. Not to mention his little temper tantrum yesterday over a softball question. Cut his mic. Let Pence deliver addresses because even though hes a massive piece of shit at least hes professional in delivery and tone

Try reading the whole post instead of cherry picking

UnfairRepresent posted...

Just get him pre-prepared comments or have him present and talking up togetherness and the US while someone else does the big talk.

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Blighboy
03/21/20 9:55:33 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
I''m no fan of Trump but people need to rally behind their leaders in a time of crisis.
What the fuck kind of diet hippie fascism is this shit, this is dumber than anything Trump has said in the last two weeks.

Leaders need to lead in a time of crisis.

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DezDroppedFreak
03/21/20 9:58:52 AM
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Sure UR. Ill respond to other points

UnfairRepresent posted...
The solution here is to properly prepare Trump, not to hide him like a sitcom where you're gay but pretend not to be when your parents are around so you hide your husband and get your co-worker to pretend to be your wife for a weekend. That's not helpful.

Just get him pre-prepared comments or have him present and talking up togetherness and the US while someone else does the big talk.

Trump has already given pressers with fucking teleprompters and STILL got the basic information and policies wrong despite being prepped

his first address during this pandemic his staffers had to immediately backtrack all of the policies he announced

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
03/21/20 9:59:38 AM
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I''m no fan of Trump but people need to rally behind their leaders in a time of crisis.
Even when that leader boldly lies to your face every time he speaks?

I'm a pharmacist and feel it was incredibly dangerous of him to take the podium and blatantly lie about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine for covid-19. There is a national shortage of the drug which is detrimental for the patients who actually do need it for safe, proven treatment for SLE and rheumatoid arthritis.


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UnfairRepresent
03/21/20 9:59:42 AM
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Blighboy posted...

What the fuck kind of diet hippie fascism is this shit, this is dumber than anything Trump has said in the last two weeks.

Leaders need to lead in a time of crisis.

That's semantics.

The leader represents the country. If the leader is weak that has a knockdown effect on the population, economy and morale
If the leader is strong that has a boost on the population, economy and morale.

I repeat the example I have of Winston Churchil in WW2 and on the flip side Luigi Cadorna in Italy in WW1

If we have to hide Trump from TV then that's communicating to the American citizens that we are weak and fucked.
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lilORANG
03/21/20 10:01:16 AM
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My local mayor has done more to combat this than Trump has. An ineffectual president is not a leader.
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DezDroppedFreak
03/21/20 10:01:22 AM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
I'm a pharmacist and feel it was incredibly dangerous of him to take the podium and blatantly lie about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine for covid-19. There is a national shortage of the drug which is detrimental for the patients who actually do need it for safe, proven treatment for SLE and rheumatoid arthritis.

weve already seen an uptick in prescribing for it despite no indication or any real solid proof behind the claim. Shits about to get wild

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Blighboy
03/21/20 10:02:34 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
If we have to hide Trump from TV then that's communicating to the American citizens that we are weak and fucked.
So the solution to somebody denying reality is to deny reality along with them? No wonder America hasn't progressed in fifty years.

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divot1338
03/21/20 10:03:01 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Just get him pre-prepared comments or have him present and talking up togetherness and the US while someone else does the big talk.
They did that already. He screwed those up too.

Do you not remember any of the occasions when he was reading from the teleprompter when he sounded like he was hit by a tranquilizer dart?

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Super Saiyan 3 Goku
03/21/20 10:03:49 AM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
weve already seen an uptick in prescribing for it despite no indication or any real solid proof behind the claim. Shits about to get wild
That's just it though. My clinical coordinator sent us an email yesterday about preliminary dosing information for it for treating covid-19 based on the China study. The data behind it is so sketchy and weak at best.

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UnfairRepresent
03/21/20 10:04:13 AM
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Super Saiyan 3 Goku posted...
Even when that leader boldly lies to your face every time he speaks?

I'm a pharmacist and feel it was incredibly dangerous of him to take the podium and blatantly lie about the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine for covid-19. There is a national shortage of the drug which is detrimental for the patients who actually do need it for safe, proven treatment for SLE and rheumatoid arthritis.


Try reading the whole post instead of cherry picking

UnfairRepresent posted...

Just get him pre-prepared comments or have him present and talking up togetherness and the US while someone else does the big talk.

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DezDroppedFreak
03/21/20 10:04:48 AM
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Try reading your whole topic instead of cherry picking responses

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UnfairRepresent
03/21/20 10:05:19 AM
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Blighboy posted...

So the solution to somebody denying reality is to deny reality along with them? No wonder America hasn't progressed in fifty years.

Try reading the whole post instead of cherry picking

UnfairRepresent posted...

Just get him pre-prepared comments or have him present and talking up togetherness and the US while someone else does the big talk.


How many times will I need to post this in the topic

Read the whole OP people
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CableZL
03/21/20 10:08:03 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
That's semantics.

The leader represents the country. If the leader is weak that has a knockdown effect on the population, economy and morale
If the leader is strong that has a boost on the population, economy and morale.

I repeat the example I have of Winston Churchil in WW2 and on the flip side Luigi Cadorna in Italy in WW1

If we have to hide Trump from TV then that's communicating to the American citizens that we are weak and fucked.
Trump blaming everyone else for his mistakes and trying to take credit for things he had nothing to do with are both signs of a weak leader.

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Blighboy
03/21/20 10:08:06 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Try reading the whole post instead of cherry picking
The rest of your post has no substance outside of your one core point.

You should try learning how to make a post without drizzling on comparisons to the nazis.

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UnfairRepresent
03/21/20 10:10:24 AM
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Blighboy posted...

The rest of your post has no substance outside of your one core point.



What a dumb post

People are going "So you should jsut let Trump spout nonsense!" are ignoing the sentence a moment later that directly says no to that because they and you are too lazy to read
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Antifar
03/21/20 10:11:22 AM
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DezDroppedFreak
03/21/20 10:11:56 AM
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How about the people telling you theyve literally done that and he still just spouted nonsense

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Blighboy
03/21/20 10:12:22 AM
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Man who defends Trump's inability to address simple counterpoints cannot address simple counterpoints

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bkkorps
03/21/20 10:16:29 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
What a dumb post

People are going "So you should jsut let Trump spout nonsense!" are ignoing the sentence a moment later that directly says no to that because they and you are too lazy to read

says the guy too lazy to read the (several) responses about how trump is so dumb that he even manages to screw up reading off a teleprompter.

your point is a bad one.

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UnfairRepresent
03/21/20 10:16:42 AM
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Blighboy posted...
Man who defends Trump's inability to address simple counterpoints cannot address simple counterpoints

When did I defend Trump?
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DanHaren2019
03/21/20 10:23:09 AM
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She's not wrong
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UnfairRepresent
03/22/20 6:48:50 AM
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And he was never seen again
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Waluigi7
03/22/20 6:49:29 AM
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What a baby.

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Feetish
03/22/20 7:18:19 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The solution here is to properly prepare Trump, not to hide him like a sitcom where you're gay but pretend not to be when your parents are around so you hide your husband and get your co-worker to pretend to be your wife for a weekend. That's not helpful.

Just get him pre-prepared comments or have him present and talking up togetherness and the US while someone else does the big talk.


Hes not interested in what his advisors have to say. He says whatever he wants to .

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KiwiTerraRizing
03/22/20 7:46:20 AM
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Fuck her and her schilling for Biden.

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TommyG663513
03/22/20 8:10:25 AM
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On one hand Trump is actively making this worse by merely opening his mouth. On the other, the idea of clearly cutting off the president from talking to the country seems like a bad precedent.

The only hope is that average Americans are smart enough to spot BS, but I know they aren't.

Basically, we are in a really bad spot.

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DezDroppedFreak
03/22/20 8:22:21 AM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
And he was never seen again
I cant believe you had the gall to bump this when you still havent responded to people telling you that shit doesnt work.

dont cherry pick posts

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DakotaPrescott
03/22/20 8:37:18 AM
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My dumbass coworker already believes that if you hold your breath for 10 seconds and not cough then you dont have Corona.

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Sphyx
03/22/20 8:44:20 AM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...
Try reading your whole topic instead of cherry picking responses
TC = destroyed

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UnfairRepresent
03/22/20 8:57:42 AM
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DezDroppedFreak posted...

I cant believe you had the gall to bump this when you still havent responded to people telling you that shit doesnt work.

dont cherry pick posts

Dont let Trump ramble
Give him prepared statements and have someone else talk
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DezDroppedFreak
03/22/20 9:00:22 AM
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Okay cool you posted the same thing when weve already told you theyve tried that and he still rambled/got information wrong

honk honk

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Blighboy
03/22/20 2:00:17 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
When did I defend Trump?
Article says not to let Trump on TV, you said Trump should be allowed on TV

Are you seriously deflecting from your obvious bad arguments to basic 2+2 shit lol

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TheTrueAmerican
03/22/20 2:01:07 PM
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lol @ richard madcow.

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UnfairRepresent
03/22/20 2:06:41 PM
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Blighboy posted...

Article says not to let Trump on TV, you said Trump should be allowed on TV

Are you seriously deflecting from your obvious bad arguments to basic 2+2 shit lol

Seems like a stretch to call that a Trump defense, I'm not defending what he has said, I'm attacking the prospect of removing the president from the public conciousness during a crisis
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AlphagamerXFL
03/22/20 2:07:34 PM
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It's funny I'd urge networks to stop airing Rachel Maddow.

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HylianFox
03/22/20 2:12:07 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
He's the president

Your point being?

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Prestoff
03/22/20 3:26:53 PM
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I read in an article that Trump had a teleprompter to read off from, but instead started ad-libbing the shit out of it making the situation even worst.

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SauI_Goodman
03/22/20 3:28:17 PM
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imagine taking maddow seriously

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Smackems
03/22/20 3:29:17 PM
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Bitch is always so hysterical

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Bluebomber182
03/22/20 3:32:01 PM
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shes not wrong
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