Current Events > Joe Biden admitting and bragging he'd kill Medicare for All

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Surely there wouldnt be a current event that would bite Biden in the ass now

https://youtu.be/np37I1Clubw

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Campaign donations are more important than lives

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Probably just lost all the swing votes and sealed 4 more years.

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SauI_Goodman posted...

Probably just lost all the swing votes and sealed 4 more years.

Biden is a piece of shit. but any swing voter that goes for trump this time in the age of Covid19, is betraying humanity

Fuck Biden and fuck Trump.
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Vote blue no matter who

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MAGA, Baby!

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Were_Wyrm posted...

Campaign donations are more important than lives

This is unfortunately the case

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Sadly he's still better than Trump

Anyone who doesn't vote for him is as responsible for all the harm, suffering and pain that Trump will bring over the next 4 years.

Unless you aren't American obviously in which case you're an innocent bystander.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Anyone who doesn't vote for him is as responsible for all the harm, suffering and pain that Trump will bring over the next 4 years.

I'll take my chances since it's being going damn good for me ever since he was inaugurated into his presidency.

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He doesn't care about the middle or lower classes does he?

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UnfairRepresent posted...

Sadly he's still better than Trump

Anyone who doesn't vote for him is as responsible for all the harm, suffering and pain that Trump will bring over the next 4 years.

Unless you aren't American obviously in which case you're an innocent bystander.

Voting for Biden guarantees we won't get a radical/FDR democrat for over a decade. Just more of the same establishment bullshit. I'd rather have four years of Trump and then a chance at a liberal lion in 2024. It's called accelerationism and it has nothing to do with electing feckless, tepid, safe, "electable" moderate democrats. Now more than ever is the time for someone radical to wash over the system but it looks like we're getting denied Bernie again.

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https://i.redd.it/qqg3hkbjvun41.jpg

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Suchomimus posted...

Voting for Biden guarantees we won't get a radical/FDR democrat for over a decade. Just more of the same establishment bullshit. I'd rather have four years of Trump and then a chance at a liberal lion in 2024. It's called accelerationism and it has nothing to do with electing feckless, tepid, safe, "electable" moderate democrats. Now more than ever is the time for someone radical to wash over the system but it looks like we're getting denied Bernie again.

Same dudes who thought Bernie was going to win think handing the supreme court over to the far-right for a generation is a huge tactical victory.

Luckily Biden doesn't need the internet vote.

Also interesting how the primary is over but they're still attacking Biden instead of Trump. Mask off.

Broseph_Stalin posted...

Same dudes who thought Bernie was going to win think handing the supreme court over to the far-right for a generation is a huge tactical victory.

Luckily Biden doesn't need the internet vote.

Whats the Internet vote? Doesnt everyone use the Internet?

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Same dudes who thought Bernie was going to win think handing the supreme court over to the far-right for a generation is a huge tactical victory.

Luckily Biden doesn't need the internet vote.

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I mean you either get improvements to the healthcare system or you get someone like Trump who works to actively undermine and take away healthcare from people who got it.

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He's a Democrat so this is ok.

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Southernfatman posted...

He's a Democrat so this is ok.

yep

even a dem who wouldn't pass m4a is better than a corporate shill like trump

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Doom_Art posted...

yep

even a dem who wouldn't pass m4a is better than a corporate shill like trump

and biden isnt a corporate shill? the guy who on tape literally talked about prostituting himself out to big donors?

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Doom_Art posted...

yep

even a dem who wouldn't pass m4a is better than a corporate shill like trump

Look, I don't want Trump to win, but I hate that the choice is between one piece of shit and another, less smelly piece of shit. There was an obviously better choice that Democrats could make, but corporate influence and voter ignorance won again.

My point is that Democrats' behavior gets excused to much just because they're not as awful as the Republicans and that's not how things should be.

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Doom_Art posted...

yep

even a dem who wouldn't pass m4a is better than a corporate shill like trump

Biden is a corporate shill. Trump is a kleptocrat.

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Southernfatman posted...

but I hate that the choice is between one piece of shit and another, less smelly piece of shit.

That episode of South Park came out 16 years ago

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shockthemonkey posted...

I love how Bro doesnt understand that Dems can pressure their candidate to change their platform and that Bidens final platform isnt set. They cant do anything to Trump. Thats how this works.

What does getting Biden to endorse M4A realistically do? Do you think there's some way that any candidate can actually get something like that passed?

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Broseph_Stalin posted...

Also interesting how the primary is over but they're still attacking Biden instead of Trump. Mask off.

As everyone has been saying, theyre both shit. Whats your point?

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Doom_Art posted...

That episode of South Park came out 16 years ago

And there's apparently still some truth in it all these years later. Some of us want things to get better instead of going back to the shitty "normalcy" from before.

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Here's a lil tip

Maybe don't base your political rhetoric on South Park

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Doom_Art posted...

Here's a lil tip

Maybe don't base your political rhetoric on South Park

I don't even watch South Park. I'm not going to absolve the problems of one political party just because another is even worse.

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shockthemonkey posted...

What exactly will get passed? But thats not how campaigns work

Is it worth it to trash the nominee for months before what's likely to be a nasty election for a policy that you don't have any faith will actually get passed in any form close to it?

I mean, we know what happened to Hillary after all the "helpful" anti-campaigning from the left.

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Maeiv posted...

Vote blue no matter who

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Doom_Art posted...

Here's a lil tip

Maybe don't base your political rhetoric on South Park

Bro come on.

This is some of the most disingenuous garbage Ive seen you post.

Youre the one that came in and conflated his post with South Park. He made zero mention of what you mentioned.

By the way, that episode was a giant douche or a turd sandwich

both choices being shit far predates some random episode of South Park

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shockthemonkey posted...

Is it worth trying to get comprehensive healthcare reform at a time when this country very obviously needs it? Yes!

But that's disingenuous given your last post, no?

You don't actually expect it to be passed. But you like the sentiment of trying, but for an election that's deeply practical, it's pretty irresponsible to hold out on sentiment.

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10 months ago, everyone was arguing about what the Mueller report said. Anybody pretending to know what will be politically possible - or necessary - in January 2021 is lying.
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Antifar posted...

10 months ago, everyone was arguing about what the Mueller report said. Anybody pretending to know what will be politically possible - or necessary - in January 2020 is lying.

...this doesn't follow as a coherent argument, for anything at all.

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No, my argument is trashing the dude that is likely to be the only hope of any form of liberal policy because he doesn't say the things you like is probably acting against your own interests.

We can pretend like the attacks on Hillary from the Bernie camp had no effect on the 2016 election, but seeing how vehemently she is hated across the internet, I think it would be a hard sell.

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No surprise. Why would someone right of center support M4A?
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Reminder, Biden is a friend to Mitch Mcconnell, they've worked together on shit before
Reminder, Biden thinks only Trump is the problem and you can work with Republicans and they'll stop being crazy Trump supporters
Reminder, Biden had almost 10 years of firsthand experience of what Republicans did to his old Boss simply because they hate liberals that much
Reminder, Biden once said he'd be glad to be even a 1 term president if he won
Reminder, that Biden hates the youth, is pro corporate like Obama maybe even more than Obama and has been telling Rich people "nothing will change"

People's one thing about Biden is they hope that he'll put a left winger in Ruth's seat if he won, but that's a false hope, he's more likely to cave to some right wing sleezeball the republicans want out of "unity" and "bipartisan" effect which we know is political language for rolling over for republicans and taking the fallout for it from media and republican networks.

We're fucked either way you look at it. Especially because the progressive movement is killed in America, Sanders was the last one, AOC will either get primary'd away someday or continue being ignored.

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shockthemonkey posted...

You do realize there's a very good reason why anti-biden topics are filled with bernie and trump supporters saying the same thing, right?

Do you not see any parallel to the last election?

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shockthemonkey posted...

This is not the gotcha that you think it is. It is not surprising when people who disagree politically with a candidate voice their opinions.

But people on opposite sides of the political spectrum should presumably dislike Biden for different reasons, wouldn't you think?

It's not a gotchya at all. It's an observation that the social dynamics of the current election resemble 2016. Do you disagree?

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Okay, let's clear this up a little. Do you think that in 2016, people were just politically disagreeing with Hillary, and that the general negative sentiment had nothing to do with the endless attacks from both right and left calling her a neoliberal centrist, calling into question her health, and the general conspiracy theories surrounding her?

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