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CrocodileCannon
12/31/19 2:28:36 PM
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I get that some people are making her out to be a hero, which I don't really buy, but I don't see how you can deny that she is doing something good. We need to increase awareness of global climate change, how can the American right disagree with that one?

A lot of social media posts I see criticize her for trying to be act like an adult, but at least she is trying to do something positive. A lot of 17 year olds can barely get themselves out of bed to get to school on time.

I have also seen her called a puppet and that she is just following a script. I think that is probably partially true, but is that not true for most adult activists and politicians too? I mean most top politicians have speech writers and advisors and all that sort of thing. Is that really much different?
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KobeSystem
12/31/19 2:32:58 PM
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Ur right on the money. Even if she is a puppet, we have had scientists tell us for decades that this shjt will(is) spiral(ing) out of control. They had their chance to listen to actual experts

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ScazarMeltex
12/31/19 2:34:33 PM
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The American right has a problem with women being anything other than housekeeping baby farms, they also hate foreigners, and they don't like anyone talking about climate science. Put all of those together and I think you have your answer.

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Bestoffuture
12/31/19 2:35:04 PM
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Because she's a liberal foreign woman.

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TommyG663513
12/31/19 2:35:12 PM
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Rallying behind her just seems like such an idiotic thing to do. She is just a living meme machine.

I think climate change is an important issue too and I worry she is just setting the movement back in the long run.

She's a young kid with a mental illness so it is easy to attack people who rip on her.

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 2:35:50 PM
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This tactic is weird

-say conservatives are mad about greta
-haha conservatives are dumb

But its just a lie, no one cares about her, and only liberal outlets spam her
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Purely
12/31/19 2:35:54 PM
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CrocodileCannon posted...
A lot of 17 year olds can barely get themselves out of bed to get to school on time.

Ironically, she doesn't make it to school on time either. She's a drop out.
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MC_BatCommander
12/31/19 2:36:34 PM
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Because no one likes having their beliefs challenged.

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Bluebomber182
12/31/19 2:36:43 PM
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squee
12/31/19 2:37:12 PM
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lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted...
This tactic is weird

-say conservatives are mad about greta
-haha conservatives are dumb

But its just a lie, no one cares about her, and only liberal outlets spam her

yeah but your fucking glorious orange idiot leader decided to attack her becaus she was named time person of the year instead of the buffoon of bullying
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Bestoffuture
12/31/19 2:37:57 PM
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lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted...
This tactic is weird

-say conservatives are mad about greta
-haha conservatives are dumb

But its just a lie, no one cares about her, and only liberal outlets spam her

Literally the president of the united states threw a bitchfit about her. To say no one cares about her is a flat out lie.

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TommyG663513
12/31/19 2:38:52 PM
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squee posted...
yeah but your fucking glorious orange idiot leader decided to attack her becaus she was named time person of the year instead of the buffoon of bullying

I mostly see people talking about how mad conservatives are mad than I do actually seeing conservatives mad.

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
12/31/19 2:39:56 PM
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Trump rips on anyone, have you seen his twitter ??

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Foppe
12/31/19 2:40:03 PM
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Purely posted...
Ironically, she doesn't make it to school on time either. She's a drop out.
She is taking a year off.
You cant do that over there?

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Lost_All_Senses
12/31/19 2:40:35 PM
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I always find it funny when people say "This person is only doing things because people are manipulating them (puppet)". While at the same time those people are manipulating others to not do it out of fear they come off as a puppet. You can literally claim anybody is doing what they do for others. You have to be inside that persons brain to actually have proof or insight of any of these claims. Why not just focus on the stuff you can actually back up, like the good she does? Instead of making up baseless theories to feel better about not being the one putting in all the work.

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bover_87
12/31/19 2:40:46 PM
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ScazarMeltex posted...
The American right has a problem with women being anything other than housekeeping baby farms, they also hate foreigners, and they don't like anyone talking about climate science. Put all of those together and I think you have your answer.


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hockeybub89
12/31/19 2:41:27 PM
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Apparently some people are stans for a dying climate

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 2:42:48 PM
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squee posted...


yeah but your fucking glorious orange idiot leader decided to attack her becaus she was named time person of the year instead of the buffoon of bullying


Why though? For saying what grown ups told her to say? For spreading awareness?

Idk if lack of awareness is an issue for a lot of these social causes

Im sure theres improvements to co2 mining or nuclear this year that are way more important Than what shes done

If time weighs spreading awareness so highly they could have spread awareness on that maybe?
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IShall_Run_Amok
12/31/19 2:44:08 PM
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Because her day-to-day activities, mental state and literal physical appearance are their best arguments against the idea of climate change. Its literally all they've got. And just in case anyone needs it spelled out to them, its fucking pathetic of them. They really are just lower than the most shit eating among worms on this issue.

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 2:45:11 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...


Literally the president of the united states threw a bitchfit about her. To say no one cares about her is a flat out lie.


Boomer got baited into a comment and probably hasnt talked about it since
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hockeybub89
12/31/19 2:48:21 PM
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"We are fucking up the planet we need to do something. Here's the evidence." - experts

*repeat for decades*

"You people still aren't doing anything and it's getting worse" - some upset girl

"Oh so you have nothing but angry children you can take advantage of to shill for your agenda? No wonder no one believes your shit. I'm going to burn some coal just to spite you." - everyone plugging their ears

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Webmaster4531
12/31/19 2:50:20 PM
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lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted...
Boomer got baited into a comment and probably hasnt talked about it since
Okay boomer.

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TommyG663513
12/31/19 2:51:17 PM
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Does anyone ever attempt to actually analyze what Thunberg says or are you too busy licking alt right tears?

I'm all for doing something about climate change, but we need to start having real discussions about what climate change is and how exactly it will play out. Then we need to formulate what our response to that will be. Once you get to this point, you realize that Thunberg only functions as a motivational speaker and people holding her up as a messiah are some real idiots.

Combatting climate change is an incredibly complex thing. Remember that our entire economy is built the way it is and changing that to combat climate change can have its own negative effects we need to worry about too. We can't just suddenly take all cars off of the road and tear down and rebuild every single building out there.

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 2:53:06 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Does anyone ever attempt to actually analyze what Thunberg says or are you too busy licking alt right tears?


So am I triggered and obsessed with her, or do I not listen to her enough?

Seriously wtf

All I know is what she looks like, and she wore a pink shirt and said "muh future" or some shit
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hockeybub89
12/31/19 2:53:29 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Does anyone ever attempt to actually analyze what Thunberg says or are you too busy licking alt right tears?

I'm all for doing something about climate change, but we need to start having real discussions about what climate change is and how exactly it will play out. Then we need to formulate what our response to that will be. Once you get to this point, you realize that Thunberg only functions as a motivational speaker and people holding her up as a messiah are some real idiots.

Combatting climate change is an incredibly complex thing. Remember that our entire economy is built the way it is and changing that to combat climate change can have its own negative effects we need to worry about too. We can't just suddenly take all cars off of the road and tear down and rebuild every single building out there.
Again, people have been fucking talking about climate change for decades. Every year we blow it off makes it more and more likely to make drastic attempts to combat it.

Anyone that tries to turn Greta Thunberg into the entire climate change debate is not interested in actually addressing anything.

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Polycosm
12/31/19 2:55:04 PM
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lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted...
Boomer got baited into a comment and probably hasnt talked about it since

I mean, he also tweeted a photoshop of his head on Gretas body on the cover of Time, and it isnt the first time hes thrown a fit over Times Person of the Year choice. It seems to me that Trumps jealousy is deep-seated.

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 2:55:40 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...

Again, people have been fucking talking about climate change for decades. Every year we blow it off makes it more and more likely to make drastic attempts to combat it.

Anyone that tries to turn Greta Thunberg into the entire climate change debate is not interested in actually addressing anything.


I dont buy that any amount of anything can solve rising sea levels etc

Well probably have good terraforming tech in the future
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TommyG663513
12/31/19 2:55:56 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Again, people have been fucking talking about climate change for decades. Every year we blow it off makes it more and more likely to make drastic attempts to combat it.

Anyone that tries to turn Greta Thunberg into the entire climate change debate is not interested in actually addressing anything.

Ok so nothing of substance then. LOL just STFU about caring so much about climate change. This isn't about caring. This is about doing something of value. Having a plan. We need a discussion.

We don't need more "HOW DARE YOU!!!!" memes

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TommyG663513
12/31/19 2:58:46 PM
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lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted...
So am I triggered and obsessed with her, or do I not listen to her enough?

Seriously wtf

All I know is what she looks like, and she wore a pink shirt and said "muh future" or some shit

Yeah I don't think you read my post at all

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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
12/31/19 2:59:42 PM
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This is likely all she will amount to in the long run but atleast we will have some dank memes thanks to her.


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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 3:00:21 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...


Yeah I don't think you read my post at all


U lazy
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TommyG663513
12/31/19 3:01:44 PM
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lil_GoodOlJr_69 posted...
U lazy

Clearly you're just trolling. Saying "U lazy" without even typing you is pretty ironic.

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hockeybub89
12/31/19 3:01:54 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Ok so nothing of substance then. LOL just STFU about caring so much about climate change. This isn't about caring. This is about doing something of value. Having a plan. We need a discussion.

We don't need more "HOW DARE YOU!!!!" memes
Hard to have a discussion when the experts and their evidence are actively suppressed by world leaders and corporations worldwide.

Anyone that thinks the meat of climate change debate is "HOW DARE YOU" memes is not interested in discussion and has been ignoring research their entire lives. They're right that a Swedish girl won't change their mind when no one else will either.

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Mr_MacPhisto
12/31/19 3:02:16 PM
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Bluebomber182 posted...
This meme doesn't work in that context considering Greta is the one who was pointing and shouting at world leaders while they all rolled their eyes at her.

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ThyCorndog
12/31/19 3:02:39 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
"We are fucking up the planet we need to do something. Here's the evidence." - experts

*repeat for decades*

"You people still aren't doing anything and it's getting worse" - some upset girl

"Oh so you have nothing but angry children you can take advantage of to shill for your agenda? No wonder no one believes your shit. I'm going to burn some coal just to spite you." - everyone plugging their ears
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TommyG663513
12/31/19 3:05:40 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Hard to have a discussion when the experts and their evidence are actively suppressed by world leaders and corporations worldwide.

Anyone that thinks the meat of climate change debate is "HOW DARE YOU" memes is not interested in discussion and has been ignoring research their entire lives. They're right that a Swedish girl won't change their mind when no one else will either.

I am here posting points against you and you just defer to the right wing straw man. Stop being such a mindless liberal and think for a minute.

What is Thunberg doing beyond being a meme machine? What is the real plan to combat climate change? Hold protests to convince world leaders to do something? Good luck with that.

You clearly aren't engaging with me in good faith here.

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Blue_Dream87
12/31/19 3:06:11 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Does anyone ever attempt to actually analyze what Thunberg says or are you too busy licking alt right tears?

I'm all for doing something about climate change, but we need to start having real discussions about what climate change is and how exactly it will play out. Then we need to formulate what our response to that will be. Once you get to this point, you realize that Thunberg only functions as a motivational speaker and people holding her up as a messiah are some real idiots.

Combatting climate change is an incredibly complex thing. Remember that our entire economy is built the way it is and changing that to combat climate change can have its own negative effects we need to worry about too. We can't just suddenly take all cars off of the road and tear down and rebuild every single building out there.

This is such a cop out and shows 0 understanding about how our society works. Emotional appeal spreads so much more widelh than logical. Before there was no entry, common person doesn't understand shit about the science and prolly doesn't care. But you throw an emotional child in front of him pointing out the issue, they're gonna react, because they connect to that fear and anger.

She already points to the experts for these answers. You just need to hook people before you bother explaining it.

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 3:06:21 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Does anyone ever attempt to actually analyze what Thunberg says or are you too busy licking alt right tears?

I'm all for doing something about climate change, but we need to start having real discussions about what climate change is and how exactly it will play out. Then we need to formulate what our response to that will be. Once you get to this point, you realize that Thunberg only functions as a motivational speaker and people holding her up as a messiah are some real idiots.

Combatting climate change is an incredibly complex thing. Remember that our entire economy is built the way it is and changing that to combat climate change can have its own negative effects we need to worry about too. We can't just suddenly take all cars off of the road and tear down and rebuild every single building out there.


Wow great read , sorry for only skimming this earlier I sure missed out

"Somethings gotta change, we cant keep doing what were doing" biggest lazy meme ever

Alarmists never support nuclear, they never support action or put their money where their mouth is, they love wind power and styrofoam/straw bans, and marginal tax increases in 6/7 western countries like that does anything at all
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TommyG663513
12/31/19 3:11:59 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
This is such a cop out and shows 0 understanding about how our society works. Emotional appeal spreads so much more widelh than logical. Before there was no entry, common person doesn't understand shit about the science and prolly doesn't care. But you throw an emotional child in front of him pointing out the issue, they're gonna react, because they connect to that fear and anger.

She already points to the experts for these answers. You just need to hook people before you bother explaining it.

"Show the world an emotional child, because they're too dumb for anything else"

May as well waive the white flag then really, because that emotional child isn't gonna lead to crap. Licking up alt right tears isn't going to do anything to fight climate change.

There is getting people to care and then there is having a real workable plan and motivating people to act on it. Getting people to care is such a small part of what needs to happen.

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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 3:13:13 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
alt right


Imaginary bogeyman
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Unknown834
12/31/19 3:14:43 PM
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Bestoffuture posted...
Literally the president of the united states threw a bitchfit about her. To say no one cares about her is a flat out lie.
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lil_GoodOlJr_69
12/31/19 3:15:56 PM
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Unknown834 posted...

@lil_GoodOlJr_69


Its a few tweets who cares

He cant have a bowel movement without tweeting

And hes a boomer
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Blue_Dream87
12/31/19 3:16:30 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
"Show the world an emotional child, because they're too dumb for anything else"

May as well waive the white flag then really, because that emotional child isn't gonna lead to crap. Licking up alt right tears isn't going to do anything to fight climate change.

There is getting people to care and then there is having a real workable plan and motivating people to act on it. Getting people to care is such a small part of what needs to happen.

You know what, youre a fucking joke. I remember when you were reasonable, what happened?

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Dark_Spiret
12/31/19 3:17:29 PM
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i dont know many right leaning individuals who deny climate change or think we shouldnt be moving towards clean energy. the problem is the crazy mentality a lot of people have to it. "doing something" tends to mean were all going to die in 20 years unless we bankrupt the country and install heavy socialist policies.

as mentioned our whole way of life cant just be flipped on a dime like that. we have to take incremental steps which is going to take time and is something we are naturally working towards (albeit maybe not as fast as id like). regardless if things really are that bad then none of this really matters anyway. if we are all going to go into a new ice age or w/e in a few decades then pretty much nothing we do now, no matter how extreme is going to matter and stop this planet from the course its on.
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TommyG663513
12/31/19 3:19:14 PM
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Blue_Dream87 posted...
You know what, youre a fucking joke. I remember when you were reasonable, what happened?

I don't even know who you are. What do you want me to say here? Just referring to me as a joke sounds like you're looking to resort to insults rather than talk things out. And you call me unreasonable.

Sorry that I think more needs to happen about climate change then some girl being a meme machine. Her making mean faces at Donald Trump doesn't do anything useful.

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Webmaster4531
12/31/19 3:19:57 PM
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Dark_Spiret posted...
i dont know many right leaning individuals.
Fixed that for you. Only way that makes sentence makes sense.

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ultimate reaver
12/31/19 3:20:39 PM
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You clearly aren't engaging with me in good faith here.

it might be because youre being completely insufferable

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Webmaster4531
12/31/19 3:21:51 PM
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TommyG663513 posted...
Sorry that I think more needs to happen about climate change then some girl being a meme machine. Her making mean faces at Donald Trump doesn't do anything useful.
She's doing more than you. You're right that things are hopeless, criticizing Greta does nothing too.

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TommyG663513
12/31/19 3:22:14 PM
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Dark_Spiret posted...
i dont know many right leaning individuals who deny climate change or think we shouldnt be moving towards clean energy. the problem is the crazy mentality a lot of people have to it. "doing something" tends to mean were all going to die in 20 years unless we bankrupt the country and install heavy socialist policies.

as mentioned our whole way of life cant just be flipped on a dime like that. we have to take incremental steps which is going to take time and is something we are naturally working towards (albeit maybe not as fast as id like). regardless if things really are that bad then none of this really matters anyway. if we are all going to go into a new ice age or w/e in a few decades then pretty much nothing we do now, no matter how extreme is going to matter and stop this planet from the course its on.

You see this is what a reasonable response to climate change questions looks like. These are the discussions that need to happen.

Stop being so alarmist to motivate people to action. We can't take every single vehicle off of the road. We need to be realistic and figure out what actually can or should happen.

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