Current Events > i hate when they hold the lightsaber backwards

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it looks so fucking stupid
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yeah i dont get why they do that. I gives them less reach and no real benefit.

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Makes more sense than with actual blades, since a lightsaber's weight is all in the hilt.

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It's based off of actual sword stances, which makes sense because the blade of a sword is heavy.

The "blade" of a light saber shouldn't weigh anything and it does not make sense.

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There's no upside to it and you lose a large amount of range of motion and control. Only really useful with daggers

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Look at this thread full of Jedi masters thinking they are fucking pros.

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Looks badass and frankly thats enough for me.

unless youre dual wielding a pair like that then youve gone full blown Naruto.

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Kolibri X posted...

There's no upside to it and you lose a large amount of range of motion and control. Only really useful with daggers

There's a whole lot about lightsabers that doesn't make sense when you try to apply the rules of real blades to them.

Stop doing it.

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https://images.app.goo.gl/D8w2BmndNs7VoQz88

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I'm pretty sure you also use reverse grip because you can use different muscle groups when doing it

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vigorm0rtis posted...

There's a whole lot about lightsabers that doesn't make sense when you try to apply the rules of real blades to them.

Stop doing it.

Ok but what advantage does it offer?

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SH_expert44 posted...

Ok but what advantage does it offer?

The only way I see it making sense is as a defensive tactic.

Kind of like a wide parry.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

There's a whole lot about lightsabers that doesn't make sense when you try to apply the rules of real blades to them.

Stop doing it.

Just because light sabers are fantasy doesn't mean we should disregard common sense when using them and holding a light saber towards your body is just stupid and impractical in combat.

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DeadSite posted...

I'm pretty sure you also use reverse grip because you can use different muscle groups when doing it

Any muscle is that reverse grip is going to lose to a forward grip when the two fighters have similar strength

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SwayM posted...

Looks badass and frankly thats enough for me.

unless youre dual wielding a pair like that then youve gone full blown Naruto.

You live Starkiller the fuck alone.

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SH_expert44 posted...

Ok but what advantage does it offer?

Nothing, but technically neither does swinging a lightsaber really hard, and they do that all the time as well.

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I'm surprised nobody has accidentally cut anything off holding a lightsaber in a reverse grip like that.

I'm even more surprised the Saber Staff is barely canon

Would've been absolutely perfect for Rey smh

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DrizztLink posted...

You live Starkiller the fuck alone.

He was dope in the first game when he owned that style with the one Sabre

and the developers were like how do we make him even cooler for the sequel? I know! He can duel wield them! And at that point they flew too close to the sun. One Sabre is enough. Two? Now you just look stupid

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Kolibri X posted...

Just because light sabers are fantasy doesn't mean we should disregard common sense when using them and holding a light saber towards your body is just stupid and impractical in combat.

You already disregard the fact that there's no reason to swing a lightsaber with a lot of force, that it's not beholden to rules regarding a cutting edge or point, etc. None of it is "common sense." It's all nonsense.

They do what they think looks cool, pretty much. The most practical way to use a weapon like that would be to use it like a fencer, but that doesn't look cool.

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SwayM posted...

He was dope in the first game when he owned that style with the one Sabre

and the developers were like how do we make him even cooler for the sequel? I know! He can duel wield them! And at that point they flew too close to the sun. One Sabre is enough. Two? Now you just look stupid

https://i.imgur.com/6pZf08p.gifv

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Im also just against duel wielding sabres

You need one hand free to do some force magic and flip off storm troopers

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vigorm0rtis posted...

You already disregard the fact that there's no reason to swing a lightsaber by force, that it's not beholden to rules regarding a cutting edge or point, etc. None of it is "common sense." It's all nonsense.

They do what they think looks cool, pretty much. The most practical way to use a weapon like that would be to use it like a fencer, but that doesn't look cool.

Saying that it shouldn't matter because they should be fencing anyway doesn't change the fact that holding a light saber towards you is stupid, dangerous and limiting.

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Kolibri X posted...

Saying that it shouldn't matter because they should be fencing anyway doesn't change the fact that holding a light saber towards you is stupid, dangerous and limiting.

So is swinging it like a bladed weapon. If that doesn't strike you as equally stupid, you don't actually know what is stupid and should stop analyzing the whole thing.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

So is swinging it like a bladed weapon. If that doesn't strike you as equally stupid, you don't actually know what is stupid and should stop analyzing the whole thing.

Holding and swinging it like a real sword is much less stupid. That's the point. It's about finding a balance of exciting swordplay that doesn't make them look like completely dumb amateurs who don't know how to swing a sword.

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SwayM posted...

Im also just against duel wielding sabres

You need one hand free to do some force magic and flip off storm troopers

You make your penis do all the force stuff

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Kolibri X posted...

completely dumb amateurs who don't know how to swing a sword.

Listen, I know what you're saying, but this is exactly what most of this topic sounds like to me.

Is the reverse hold absurd? Yes. Is swinging a lightweight (let alone weightless) sword from over the shoulder also absurd? Yes. It's all absurd, suicidal and pointless.

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We got it. Star Wars is fiction. Great point.

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Gentlemen.



Stop it.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

Nothing, but technically neither does swinging a lightsaber really hard, and they do that all the time as well.

If you were in a lightsaber fight and you crossed the saber with your opponent, the person who has more pressure on the blade has an advantage

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Perascamin posted...

If you were in a lightsaber fight and you crossed the saber with your opponent, the person who has more pressure on the blade has an advantage

... only if your goal is a cool cinematic shot where you're seething at each other over crossed blades and you want to be in the upper part of the frame.

If you cross blades with one-handed swords that don't have guards, you're doing it so wrong I don't even know where to start.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

... only if your goal is a cool cinematic shot where you're seething at each other over crossed blades and you want to be in the upper part of the frame.

If you cross blades with one-handed swords that don't have guards, you're doing it so wrong I don't even know where to start.

Right, but a beam of plasma is vastly different than what you would find in traditional swordplay. Imagine if you were in traditional swordplay, but the blades were so sharp they instantly caused severe damage from simply grazing you.

This was not the case in the olden days. You could glance a blow and greatly reduce the damage, and metal blades would glide against each other and hit someone's hand (or the guard. A beam of plasma for a sword would likely have quite a bit of friction to it due to the extreme heat.

So if you lightsaber duelists are engaged, and they both happen to go for a wild swing, it makes sense for them to hold the sabers against each other for the "cinematic effect". If one tries to simply step away, they will most likely be hit by their opponent because it leaves them temporarily wide open.

You don't realize just how fast Jedi and Sith, or Force Users in general are supposed to be moving due to the Force. They are basically moving at what we would call lightning speed if we could observe it. It's why they're able to block laser blasts.

But anyways, a heavy hand and strong arm muscles would be very useful in a lightsaber fight. It's why Darth Vader was so unstoppable.


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the sequels are stupid, that's why they do it

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You must've really hated The Force Unleashed games.
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vigorm0rtis posted...

Nothing, but technically neither does swinging a lightsaber really hard, and they do that all the time as well.

Nah, it shows people who's boss.

https://imgur.com/9GvQeNQ

Rats, I guess I can't directly upload :<

Actually wait, I think that staredown was what showed Vader who's boss.

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starkiller from TFU might be the lamest thing in star wars history

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Delirious_Beard posted...

starkiller from TFU might be the lamest thing in star wars history

https://i.imgur.com/keGfGyE.png

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Reverse grip is cool.
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SwayM posted...

https://images.app.goo.gl/D8w2BmndNs7VoQz88

Luke could have cut him in half right there.

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Perascamin posted...

Any muscle is that reverse grip is going to lose to a forward grip when the two fighters have similar strength

not in super smash bros >_>

roys our boy

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Cobra1010 posted...

Luke could have cut him in half right there.

Maybe if Luke were actually there. Do their lightsabers even touch or does Luke just kite him the whole time?

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I like Dooku's style of fighting.


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Wii_Shaker posted...

Maybe if Luke were actually there. Do their lightsabers even touch or does Luke just kite him the whole time?

Yeah I know. I'm just saying his stupid reverse grip further exposes him.

There should be a balance between coolness and being practical.

They actually have rey poke kylo in force awakens but this is the end of the 2nd movie and kylo is still fighting like a noob.

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vigorm0rtis posted...

So is swinging it like a bladed weapon. If that doesn't strike you as equally stupid, you don't actually know what is stupid and should stop analyzing the whole thing.

In most of the EU material, moving an ignited lightsaber does have more resistance than moving just the handle by itself (for various reasons). Whether you should regard the EU material at all though is a fair question.

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