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Trickfinger
12/26/19 9:25:27 PM
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Discuss.
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J03can
12/26/19 9:26:30 PM
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https://youtu.be/RkP_OGDCLY0

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DevsBro
12/26/19 9:28:08 PM
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Suppose there is a largest quantifier number. In the same way that " the number of degrees on a circle" defines 360, "the largest quantifiable number" would then define this number. In which case you can quantify a greater number by saying "the largest quantifiable number plus one."

Therefore, does not exist.

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King Rial
12/26/19 9:29:17 PM
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J03can posted...
https://youtu.be/RkP_OGDCLY0

I came in to post this.
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muchdran
12/26/19 9:29:51 PM
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Nerds
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Trickfinger
12/26/19 9:30:22 PM
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muchdran posted...
Nerds


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Trickfinger
12/26/19 9:30:47 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Suppose there is a largest quantifier number. In the same way that " the number of degrees on a circle" defines 360, "the largest quantifiable number" would then define this number. In which case you can quantify a greater number by saying "the largest quantifiable number plus one."

Therefore, does not exist.
except no, because you can just stop there without going further

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Scott_Farkus
12/26/19 9:31:19 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Suppose there is a largest quantifier number. In the same way that " the number of degrees on a circle" defines 360, "the largest quantifiable number" would then define this number. In which case you can quantify a greater number by saying "the largest quantifiable number plus one."

Therefore, does not exist.
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DevsBro
12/26/19 9:33:03 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
except no, because you can just stop there without going further
Oh. Then it's 1.

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AlisLandale
12/26/19 9:35:04 PM
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Define quantifiable.

Googolplex has a definition but cant be written out.

Grahams we know that Grahams number ends in a 7.

We know what Tree 3 is and we know that its a finite number, but we cant calculate it.


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uwnim
12/26/19 9:35:27 PM
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Well, the answer to this depends on the size of the universe. There'd be a limit to how large a number can actually be and actually exist as a number.

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DevsBro
12/26/19 9:35:59 PM
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Scott_Farkus posted...
When you think you sound really smart...
It's a pretty simple case of the Berry Paradox:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_paradox

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/26/19 9:36:32 PM
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Eleventy twelve.

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Trickfinger
12/26/19 9:36:54 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Trickfinger posted...
except no, because you can just stop there without going further
Oh. Then it's 1.

Wrong again
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Garioshi
12/26/19 9:38:18 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
except no, because you can just stop there without going further
but you can also go further

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DevsBro
12/26/19 9:39:03 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
Wrong again
Nah I just stopped at 1 without going any further.

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malenz
12/26/19 9:40:49 PM
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uwnim posted...
Well, the answer to this depends on the size of the universe. There'd be a limit to how large a number can actually be and actually exist as a number.
depends on what tc means by quantifiable, whether it must be written out and how big the numerals have to be or whether it must be stored in a computer, but it's most likely tc is having a laugh/trolling. there is no biggest number in concept.
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Trickfinger
12/26/19 9:40:55 PM
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DevsBro posted...
Nah I just stopped at 1 without going any further.
dictionary.com/define/can

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malenz
12/26/19 9:43:50 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
dictionary.com/define/can
in that case the number is 2 because there is no half life 3
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Trickfinger
12/26/19 9:47:03 PM
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so you guys are just gonna troll?

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DevsBro
12/26/19 10:03:50 PM
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Trickfinger posted...
dictionary.com/define/can
Oh

So I guess I was right the first time

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Scott_Farkus
12/26/19 10:06:29 PM
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DevsBro posted...
It's a pretty simple case of the Berry Paradox:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berry_paradox
Not the same concept, at all.
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Trickfinger
12/26/19 10:38:52 PM
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Scott_Farkus posted...
When you think you sound really smart...


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Austin_Era_II
12/26/19 10:40:05 PM
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Nerds <_<

Carry on >_>

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Unsugarized_Foo
12/26/19 10:46:16 PM
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According to gamefaqs, 9 repeating 8000 times

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Vol2tex
12/26/19 10:48:52 PM
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I actually read about this the other week

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ledbowman
12/26/19 11:03:22 PM
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Infinity minus 1

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Trickfinger
12/29/19 12:14:41 AM
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bump.

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malenz
12/29/19 12:36:01 AM
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largest quantifiable number to you is the size of your D (vrry smoll)
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mario2000
12/29/19 12:36:38 AM
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9~

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malenz
12/29/19 12:38:33 AM
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mario2000 posted...
9~ + 0.9~
fixed
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mario2000
12/29/19 1:27:47 AM
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malenz posted...
fixed

yeah true

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Sabram
12/29/19 1:37:33 AM
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malenz posted...
depends on what tc means by quantifiable, whether it must be written out and how big the numerals have to be or whether it must be stored in a computer, but it's most likely tc is having a laugh/trolling. there is no biggest number in concept.
In theory it would be the numbers written in quarks or leptons in sequence and then taking up the entire space of the universe as just the number, or using the entire collective of energy in the universe to write it in quarks.

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LordRazziel
12/29/19 1:37:56 AM
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I think TC is asking largest number we can really conceptualize. Like, you can easily so math with trillions, but can't really conceptualize a trillion.

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Sabram
12/29/19 2:12:50 AM
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Probably a relatively small number like 1000

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Rika_Furude
12/29/19 2:47:38 AM
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Trickfinger
12/29/19 2:48:08 AM
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How are you guys not getting what I'm asking..
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IllegalAlien
12/29/19 2:54:34 AM
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Trickfinger posted...
How are you guys not getting what I'm asking..
because you're just trolling. shut the fuck up

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Trickfinger
12/29/19 2:57:00 AM
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Interesting theory though incorrect.
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Eleventyish
12/29/19 4:04:42 AM
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This is the first time in a while my username kind of fits.
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Gobstoppers12
12/29/19 4:12:42 AM
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You have received numerous good answers (#4, #10, #11 especially) but you're not accepting them. If you refuse to accept their answers, maybe you should tell us what you think it is, then we can go from there?

Math isn't 100% solved. It's a philosophy as much as a science. There are disagreements abound. You need only reference the following question for evidence:

"Does 0.9999... = 1?"

People disagree heavily and there's really no perfect way to prove one answer over another. With that in mind, depending on definitions and your personal perspective, the 'real answer' to your question can be a lot of different things.

If you want one specific, precise, ultimate answer, then you need to very specifically define the parameters of your question.

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DevsBro
12/29/19 9:34:50 AM
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Gobstoppers12 posted...
You have received numerous good answers (#4, #10, #11 especially) but you're not accepting them. If you refuse to accept their answers, maybe you should tell us what you think it is, then we can go from there?

Math isn't 100% solved. It's a philosophy as much as a science. There are disagreements abound. You need only reference the following question for evidence:

"Does 0.9999... = 1?"

People disagree heavily and there's really no perfect way to prove one answer over another. With that in mind, depending on definitions and your personal perspective, the 'real answer' to your question can be a lot of different things.

If you want one specific, precise, ultimate answer, then you need to very specifically define the parameters of your question.
The .999... thing is trolling. It's undeniably equal to 1. You can find tons of proofs, many of which are on reputable sites.

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AlisLandale
12/29/19 9:42:46 AM
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Any comp-sci majors in here?

If the question is "the largest number you could possibly display fully", someone could calculate the biggest possible number one could store, in plain-text, on a hard drive.

And then scale that up to whatever the current, largest computer hard-drive is in terms of data storage.

And then we have the (currently) largest "quantifiable" number.

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MarqueeSeries
12/29/19 9:51:03 AM
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The size of deez nuts
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DevsBro
12/29/19 10:03:50 AM
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AlisLandale posted...
Any comp-sci majors in here?

If the question is "the largest number you could possibly display fully", someone could calculate the biggest possible number one could store, in plain-text, on a hard drive.

And then scale that up to whatever the current, largest computer hard-drive is in terms of data storage.

And then we have the (currently) largest "quantifiable" number.
You can do better than that. Way better. Text is an awful way to store a number. If you let it be floating point and make the mantissa 0 length (which is legit, btw), you can get up to 2^(about half a quadrillion).

If you really want to get crazy, you can define your own formats. For example, you could define one byte for a base, one byte for an n and every other for a floating-point number of up arrows:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knuth%27s_up-arrow_notation

Heh.

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Trickfinger
12/29/19 11:06:37 AM
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