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Broseph_Stalin 12/26/19 1:25:36 PM #51: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
The 1% can afford to pay more in wages. I'm sorry is the 1% a company I've never heard of or something? sktgamer_13dude posted... You can shut the fuck up and stop boot licking the wealthy. And you can calm down and learn how to think rationally. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 12/26/19 1:26:20 PM #52: |
I honestly kind of like a proposal I heard a few years ago about imposing a limit on how large the difference can be between the best and worst paid employee. It's not perfect, but after thinking about it a little bit, it sounds better than the traditional minimum wage solution.
Now the cap would still be something like 100 times but you could find an hourly equivalent by dividing by 2000 (even though many salaried employees work a lot more than that) but it means that if the CEO is making $20M, the janitor is making $100/hr. Or more realistically, the janitor is making $20/hr and the CEO is making $4M, since you know, there are a lot more janitors in the company than CEOs. Of course, then you would see a lot of companies contract out their unskilled labor, but even that has a nice silver lining since contract labor generally comes at a premium. Now better janitors can compete for better wages. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 12/26/19 1:29:03 PM #53: |
DevsBro posted...
imposing a limit on how large the difference can be between the best and worst paid employee. this is a terrible idea ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocDelicious 12/26/19 1:31:32 PM #54: |
sktgamer_13dude posted...
The 1% can afford to pay more in wages. If you make more than $30,000/yr you are the 1%. People tend to forget that there is an entire world that exists outside of America. --- o7 Let strength be granted so the world might be mended. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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REMercsChamp 12/26/19 1:36:44 PM #55: |
Remember: If you don't like your wage, there's 100 people lining up outside the door for your job, willing do it for half of what you are
And there's a guy in India willing to do it for less than $1 a day Be grateful for what you have. --- Haha, Yeah! ARGULA! Come check out my community board for NEET discussions: https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/1467-neet-discussions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 12/26/19 1:38:19 PM #56: |
REMercsChamp posted...
Remember: If you don't like your wage, there's 100 people lining up outside the door for your job, willing do it for half of what you are We're actually at full employment with like 7 million+ job openings. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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IShall_Run_Amok 12/26/19 1:39:29 PM #57: |
"Be grateful for the scraps you're given, because I could give less of them to someone else and keep the rest for me instead."
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I Like Toast 12/26/19 1:41:45 PM #58: |
HylianFox posted...
deserve to be paid slave wages. You need a history class. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ethosian 12/26/19 1:42:37 PM #59: |
REMercsChamp posted...
Remember: If you don't like your wage, there's 100 people lining up outside the door for your job, willing do it for half of what you are REMercsChamp posted... Come check out my community board for NEET discussions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheMikh 12/26/19 1:44:02 PM #60: |
DevsBro posted...
I honestly kind of like a proposal I heard a few years ago about imposing a limit on how large the difference can be between the best and worst paid employee. It's not perfect, but after thinking about it a little bit, it sounds better than the traditional minimum wage solution. to play the devil's advocate, with respect to base pay the highest paid ceos seldom actually exceed 5m, and it's far less for most (e.g., 80k salary for bezos) the gains in wealth for billionaires and successful executives tend to reflect increases in the valuation of business holdings over time pushing for greater availability of stock options for lower level employees would not be a bad idea though, since cash is intrinsically worthless, especially in the long term; stock options also create a vested interest in the long-term well-being of the company so long as they're held --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 12/26/19 1:47:20 PM #61: |
TheMikh posted...
to play the devil's advocate, with respect to base pay the highest paid ceos seldom actually exceed 5m, and it's far less for most (e.g., 80k salary for bezos)Hm, that's a good point. 1% of 80k comes to $.40/hr lol. --- 53 LIII 0b110101 p16 0x35 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 12/26/19 4:13:34 PM #62: |
IShall_Run_Amok posted...
"Be grateful for the scraps you're given, because I could give less of them to someone else and keep the rest for me instead."Like I said, it's either one extreme or the other extreme. I can't be the only dude who see's this from you guys. And then yall get mad when you get accused of being SJWs or Alt-Right sheesh --- I'm Veggeta X's alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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orangefire25 12/26/19 4:23:32 PM #63: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Poor corporations making record profits, can't afford to properly pay people. Meanwhile media continues to wonder why the younger generations aren't buying stuff.And that we're all depressed and anxious and fucking pissed. --- Peanut butter ain't gonna go without his Jam. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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andel 12/26/19 5:09:01 PM #64: |
the people that shill for walmart paying poverty wages are also shilling for the taxpayers subsidizing walmart
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Ivany2008 12/26/19 5:11:36 PM #65: |
I can think of a few people that don't deserve living wages. Might actually get them to get a clue and then they would be worth it. Course.... I'm talking about my aloof bosses who don't pay attention to the things happening around them.
Nor do they set aside time for meetings with staff to find out what needs to be upgraded, because you know.... that would actually prove that you give a shit about your staff. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Muintir 12/26/19 7:04:00 PM #66: |
DirkDiggles posted...
$15 for unskilled labor is uncalled for. If they want that much, tell them to file for apprenticeship for a trade. Maybe it goes to show with how expensive life is in general all wages should go up for poor and middle class? --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkmaian23 12/26/19 7:39:37 PM #67: |
People often like to claim that people doing basic low skill jobs aren't worth much in wages and that they should just skill up and move on. But unless the job was some kind of make work thing, what they were doing still needs to be done by someone. You might claim that they are getting what they are worth, but what about the people at the top? Amazon is owned by one of the wealthiest men in the world, yet it treats its warehouse workers like slaves, gives them terrible working conditions, and pays them next to nothing. Their customer service has been outsourced to the 3rd world where they pay pennies for the service. Boeing's CEO ran the business in such a way that over 300 people ended up dead, but instead of going to jail, he is walking away with millions after being fired.
It's all complete bullshit. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 12/26/19 8:20:55 PM #68: |
darkmaian23 posted...
People often like to claim that people doing basic low skill jobs aren't worth much in wages and that they should just skill up and move on. But unless the job was some kind of make work thing, what they were doing still needs to be done by someone. You might claim that they are getting what they are worth, but what about the people at the top? Amazon is owned by one of the wealthiest men in the world, yet it treats its warehouse workers like slaves, gives them terrible working conditions, and pays them next to nothing. Their customer service has been outsourced to the 3rd world where they pay pennies for the service. Boeing's CEO ran the business in such a way that over 300 people ended up dead, but instead of going to jail, he is walking away with millions after being fired.You guys gotta stop thinking just because you're filling a role doesn't mean you're owed something greater. And just because there's cooperate corruption doesn't mean you deserve something greater. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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I Like Toast 12/26/19 8:28:20 PM #69: |
darkmaian23 posted...
yet it treats its warehouse workers like slavesAgain, you need a history class. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Unknown5uspect 12/26/19 9:05:10 PM #70: |
SH_expert44 posted...
"I should make 15 an hour with my no skill entry level job ive had for 6 years, and never sought a promotion within or looked for a chance to move out of it. Also 20 hours a week should support a family of 4 on a single income. I got shit to do besides work all the time."I mean, I make $24/hr. pushing shopping carts. I'm supporting a family of 3 on my wage @ 25 hours a week. Someone has to do these jobs. Why do you think they have to live in poverty for it? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 12/26/19 9:36:00 PM #72: |
You'd think that large corporations would be all for raising minimum wage since it effectively prices small companies out of the market and puts them in everlasting dominance.
And for folks that say if a company cant afford to pay it then they shouldn't exist, well make nice with your corporate overlords because they'll never go anywhere and we are doomed to be subject to their benevolence. --- PSN: Jiek ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Villain 12/26/19 9:40:14 PM #74: |
I'd rather people make $15 an hour at places like Wal Mart or McDonalds compared to now where taxpayers (like myself) have to subsidize their income (food stamps, etc) because they don't wish to pay a living wage.
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Jiek_Fafn 12/26/19 9:42:19 PM #75: |
JustMyOpinion posted...
Small ones don't matter now anyway. Wal-Mart gives zero craps what a mom and pop store are doing. They care about other mega corps like Amazon and Target.Amazon and Walmart in particular came from pretty much nothing by being competitive in prices/service. There's no opportunity for that to be replicated if they jack up minimum wage to price out any future uprisings. Competition benefits the consumer more than anyone. --- PSN: Jiek ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Esrac 12/26/19 9:44:25 PM #76: |
Wii_Shaker posted...
If the job sucks, you are going to have to keep the pay competitive enough so that you will have workers willing to do the job. The argument one might use here is, if you get rid of the immigrants who do the work for cheaper wages, then the wages will rise out of necessity to meet a level that citizens are willing to work them for. That is, the wages are kept low by cheap imported labor and if the citizens who demand a higher wage are the only employable option, then the wages will rise without needing to raise the minimum wage. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivany2008 12/26/19 9:45:28 PM #77: |
Jiek_Fafn posted...
Amazon and Walmart in particular came from pretty much nothing by being competitive in prices/service. There's no opportunity for that to be replicated if they jack up minimum wage to price out any future uprisings. and Wal-Mart refuses to meet provincial standards. My buddy was making 11.75 back when the minimum wage was 10 dollars an hour. When they upped the minimum wage in the province, he still make 11.75, instead of being bumped up to 13.50. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Jiek_Fafn 12/26/19 9:47:32 PM #78: |
Ivany2008 posted...
and Wal-Mart refuses to meet provincial standards. My buddy was making 11.75 back when the minimum wage was 10 dollars an hour. When they upped the minimum wage in the province, he still make 11.75, instead of being bumped up to 13.50.If they dont actually have to comply with it, then they definitely should be lobbying for it. --- PSN: Jiek ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 12/26/19 9:48:52 PM #79: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
The US has the highest median wages in the world save like, two countriesAnd women make 70 cents on the dollar compared to men. --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gamestunner 12/26/19 10:00:19 PM #81: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
Well, if they studied better at school, made better choices in life, and were financially responsible, they wouldn't be in the mess that they are now. If everyone did that, you wouldn't have a job anyway. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 12/26/19 10:06:19 PM #82: |
Did this dude really say he makes 24 bucks an hour pushing a shopping cart? Is he for real?
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Unknown5uspect 12/26/19 10:14:36 PM #83: |
Veggeta_MAX posted...
Did this dude really say he makes 24 bucks an hour pushing a shopping cart? Is he for real?$36/hr. on Sundays, holidays off and paid, twice yearly bonuses, etc. Gotta love Costco. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendarylemur 12/26/19 10:17:50 PM #84: |
viewmaster_pi posted...
It's simple. "better jobs" can offer more money, better benefits, etc, while "unskilled jobs" should at least pay a livable wage without having to work 7 days a week and pull doublesThe problem atm is that some people are doing specialized or skilled work for min wage or something as flimsy and useless in non-established start ups as equity --- "Iwata was awesome" - Mr. Nintendo https://imgur.com/krtFHol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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vigorm0rtis 12/26/19 10:20:39 PM #85: |
Vicious_Dios posted...
Well, if they studied better at school, made better choices in life, and were financially responsible, they wouldn't be in the mess that they are now. The strict father model of thought is objectively incorrect. --- "Can't wait to count out your coin!" -- Bethesda, 2018 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HiddenRoar 12/26/19 10:38:45 PM #87: |
Mom and Pop stores should be exempt from the 15$-an-hour idiocy.
Bezos doesn't host meetings with more than 8 people, because he's too cheap to buy more than 2 pizzas for board meetings (2 slices per person). If you stop illegal immigration, you won't have people content with being hired at below-minimum wages. darkphoenix181 posted...
They assign those jobs to existing employees. That was hard, huh. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Webmaster4531 12/26/19 10:47:42 PM #88: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
The US has the highest median wages in the world save like, two countries [LFAQs-redacted-quote] @JustMyOpinion --- Ad Hominem. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Broseph_Stalin 12/26/19 10:53:17 PM #89: |
he wasn't saying MY stat was misleading dude
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Broseph_Stalin 12/26/19 11:00:38 PM #90: |
Villain posted...
I'd rather people make $15 an hour at places like Wal Mart or McDonalds compared to now where taxpayers (like myself) have to subsidize their income (food stamps, etc) because they don't wish to pay a living wage. The second option is actually a lot better, because it helps people who fall through the cracks without distorting the market. Same reason rent control always ends up fucking over poor people. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DevsBro 12/26/19 11:02:18 PM #91: |
Maybe I should apply at Costco.
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I Like Toast 12/26/19 11:03:13 PM #92: |
Conflict posted...
If you need hyperbole to make your point, you lost your point. --- If you do things right, people won't be sure you've done anything at all ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivany2008 12/26/19 11:03:39 PM #93: |
the only downside to working at costco is that it's a very carousal line of work. I've heard some people get hired on for only a couple months before they are let go for someone else.
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Villain 12/26/19 11:51:43 PM #94: |
Broseph_Stalin posted...
The second option is actually a lot better, because it helps people who fall through the cracks without distorting the market. Same reason rent control always ends up fucking over poor people. Wait so you're saying your happy to subsidize employees who work for multi million dollar companies? --- https://imgur.com/ZWNgMXL Formerly known as Will VIIII ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 12/27/19 6:15:22 AM #95: |
DevsBro posted...
Maybe I should apply at Costco. --- I'm Veggeta X's alt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gbagcn 12/27/19 9:07:59 AM #96: |
lol wage slaves. I have better things to do than work
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Shablagoo 12/27/19 9:15:31 AM #97: |
HiddenRoar posted...
--- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX ... Copied to Clipboard!
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rexcrk 12/27/19 9:37:25 AM #98: |
gbagcn posted...
lol wage slaves. I have better things to do than workFuck whoever is enabling you. --- These pretzels are making me thirsty! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Veggeta_MAX 12/27/19 9:39:10 AM #99: |
NEETs are hilarious. They truly believe they are some how superior but truthfully they just got issues.
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Rika_Furude 12/27/19 9:40:45 AM #100: |
The gamefaqs moderation team would have you know that there is no discrimination against the poor anywhere in the world, especially not first world countries. Any posts to the contrary are subject to immediate removal and subsequent purgatory for the poster
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