Current Events > Stephen King's CARRIE will be REMADE..with a TRANSGENDER or GIRL OF COLOUR!!

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Full Throttle
12/21/19 1:48:46 PM
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Do you think conservatives will go postal after hearing of this news that Carrie remake will be trans or woman of colour?


Stephen King's horror icon, Carrie will be Remade for the FOURTH time and on TV in a limited series on FX..and this time it is reported to star a TRANSGENDER or WOMAN OF COLOUR!!

The 1974 hit was first played by Sissy Spacek that received rave reviews for its haunting tale of a teen girl raised in a deeply religious household who develops telekinetic powers and uses it to kill her tormenters...it had a sequel 2 decades later starring Emily Bergl which was univerisally panned.

It had a TV remake starring Angela Bettis which had a much smaller budget while a movie remake released by Sony in 2013 starred Chloe Grace Moretz which didn't light up the theatres either.

Now FX and MGM are developing it for a 4th time but with a trans performer or woman of colour in mind.

Stepheng King horror films have been hot properties lately with IT and Hulu's Castle Rock and HBO's The Outsider beign a hit

The Stand remake is also coming and is filming in Vancouver and will release in CBS All Access

Do you think conservatives will go postal after hearing of the news of carrie being trans or woman of colour?

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DarthAragorn
12/21/19 1:52:13 PM
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Lol
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Eat More Beef
12/21/19 1:52:49 PM
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I don't care who they put in the role. I'm not watching it because it's another fucking remake!
Seriously. He has so many more books to work from, why the fuck are they fucking remaking this fucking thing again?

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Vicious_Dios
12/21/19 1:54:40 PM
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They'll never top the original one so, I don't give a shit.

I've accepted the fact that Hollywood has a boner for uninspired rehashes while tarnishing the original works with horrendous new ideas.

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ThePrinceFish
12/21/19 1:55:03 PM
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DarthAragorn posted...
Lol


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Funkydog
12/21/19 1:56:47 PM
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Eat More Beef posted...
Seriously. He has so many more books to work from, why the fuck are they fucking remaking this fucking thing again?
Kinda my feeling. So many other books they could adapt that a forth one of Carrie just makes me instantly not interested.

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OctilIery
12/21/19 2:02:55 PM
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Could be interesting, could be awful. I'll wait and see. Not bothered by a remake because it's a clear vision of what they want to change.
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viewmaster_pi
12/21/19 2:03:37 PM
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So you're telling me they'd want to depict a trans girl losing her shit and murdering the people that bullied her, assuming being trans is added to the story as a reason to bully her? Somehow I just don't think that's the greatest light to put Carrie under, consider the general attitude towards trans people as it is.

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OctilIery
12/21/19 2:05:08 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
So you're telling me they'd want to depict a trans girl losing her shit and murdering the people that bullied her, assuming being trans is added to the story as a reason to bully her? Somehow I just don't think that's the greatest light to put Carrie under, consider the general attitude towards trans people as it is.

Carrie isn't typically portrayed as a villain
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FF_Redux
12/21/19 2:05:17 PM
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SerperiorThanU posted...
It does tie in with the bullying aspect. Although theyd have to alter the period scene for the former.

Could be a FtM

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viewmaster_pi
12/21/19 2:06:07 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Carrie isn't typically portrayed as a villain
And?

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Eat More Beef
12/21/19 2:07:44 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Carrie isn't typically portrayed as a villain

She is at the end of the book. She just goes around hosing the entire town because, fuck it.

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viewmaster_pi
12/21/19 2:09:21 PM
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Yeah, I think at first it's like, haha yeah, take that bullies, but she quickly becomes a supervillain, lol

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PIITB415
12/21/19 2:10:07 PM
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I don't understand the hard on for trying to change every original film into rehashes that try and cater to the vocal minority. Honestly, the majority of films tank in the box office and it's pointless. It would be like making Batman a homeless trans man that fights rich people just because "hurr Durr, homeless and poor empowerment"

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OctilIery
12/21/19 2:11:37 PM
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Eat More Beef posted...


She is at the end of the book. She just goes around hosing the entire town because, fuck it.

She isn't though. She's portrayed as a tragedy. Through her rampage she's still shown as a victim whose mental condition is destroyed by her mother and bullying
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Skye Reynolds
12/21/19 2:11:38 PM
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or?

Why announce that your character will be X or Y? That's just blatant politics. Saying that Carrie will be black is fine. Saying that she'll be transgender is fine. Saying that she'll be black and transgender is fine. Saying that her casting decision is reserved for a black woman or a trans woman is just virtue signalling. It's annoying when people toot their own horn to see how others respond. And that's coming from someone who fully supports the idea of Carrie as a black transwoman.

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OctilIery
12/21/19 2:12:40 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
Yeah, I think at first it's like, haha yeah, take that bullies, but she quickly becomes a supervillain, lol

I feel like people that say this never actually read the book. She's pretty tormented, and not just by bullies
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Skye Reynolds
12/21/19 2:13:59 PM
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Wait a minute...

Carrie isn't fully justified in her actions. Does this mean they're going to rewrite the story so that only her bullies suffer? Or are they going to let a "transgender or woman of colour" turn villain?

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Esrac
12/21/19 2:14:58 PM
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OctilIery posted...
She isn't though. She's portrayed as a tragedy. Through her rampage she's still shown as a victim whose mental condition is destroyed by her mother and bullying

I mean, a lot of villains have tragic origins.
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RebelElite791
12/21/19 2:15:04 PM
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Transgender is not a noun

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GiftedACIII
12/21/19 2:16:32 PM
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OctilIery posted...


She isn't though. She's portrayed as a tragedy. Through her rampage she's still shown as a victim whose mental condition is destroyed by her mother and bullying


Tragic monsters are still villains (maybe anti-villain) like Macbeth, Hamlet, King Kong etc.
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viewmaster_pi
12/21/19 2:19:20 PM
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I think the story itself is a warning about giving in to wrath, not just for the character, but actually the readers/viewers. It makes you WANT to see them get their just desserts, but tests how much you think she deserved to lash out once she's hurting innocent people. Even people she cares about.

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OctilIery
12/21/19 2:21:09 PM
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GiftedACIII posted...


Tragic monsters are still villains (maybe anti-villain) like Macbeth, Hamlet, King Kong etc.

King Kong isn't really the villain. Carries mom is the main villain of Carrie, and the point of the story is a life so tragic and torturous that it would turn anyone bad.
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Esrac
12/21/19 2:23:28 PM
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OctilIery posted...
King Kong isn't really the villain. Carries mom is the main villain of Carrie, and the point of the story is a life so tragic and torturous that it would turn anyone bad.

All that means is Carrie becomes a villain because of how other people treated her.
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viewmaster_pi
12/21/19 2:24:03 PM
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Esrac posted...
All that means is Carrie becomes a villain because of how other people treated her.
She's the Joker

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OctilIery
12/21/19 2:26:22 PM
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Esrac posted...


All that means is Carrie becomes a villain because of how other people treated her.

Becomes a monster yes, villain no.
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KStateKing17
12/21/19 2:26:22 PM
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I was fine with the 2013 remake. Carrie doesn't need another movie. It'll just end up like Charlie's Angels

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GiftedACIII
12/21/19 2:29:01 PM
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OctilIery posted...


King Kong isn't really the villain. Carries mom is the main villain of Carrie, and the point of the story is a life so tragic and torturous that it would turn anyone bad.


He kidnaps a woman and starts destroying the city, and has to be stopped. The humans are also villains but there are a lot of stories with all villains and no heroes.
In particular, villains arent determined by intentions but actions. A literally brainwashed character is a villain until the moment theyre un-brainwashed or die.
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Duncanwii
12/21/19 2:33:22 PM
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Anyone who murders people is a villain. Period. That's why Batman doesnt kill. He doesnt want to become the villain of his own story.

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OctilIery
12/21/19 2:38:01 PM
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Duncanwii posted...
Anyone who murders people is a villain. Period. That's why Batman doesnt kill. He doesnt want to become the villain of his own story.

That's an incredibly black and white viewpoint. The only reason Carrie is a monster is she hurt people trying to help her. If she'd just killed the bullies and her mother, she absolutely wouldn't be a villain.

(also batman has totally killed)
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The_Ivory_Man
12/21/19 2:44:17 PM
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So they just specifically want a non-white or transgender actor instead of picking what the actual character was, or an open call?

Sounds pretty bad.

Also there's no reason for a remake.

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Strider102
12/21/19 2:45:47 PM
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12/21/19 3:03:34 PM
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Lold @ or

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Foppe
12/21/19 3:15:17 PM
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Turning her into a transwoman could add another layer on the bullying in school and her fanatically religious mother.

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Lorenzo_2003
12/21/19 3:32:43 PM
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viewmaster_pi posted...
She's the Joker

Carrie becomes far worse than the Joker, if we are comparing his movie version. She murders most of the students who showed up at the prom, partly by even eliminating the towns ability to fight the fire she created. Her victims werent all her bullies either.

Carrie is a female incel with super powers and an out of control anger-management problem.

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OctilIery
12/21/19 3:38:23 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...


Carrie becomes far worse than the Joker, if we are comparing his movie version. She murders most of the students who showed up at the prom, partly by even eliminating the towns ability to fight the fire she created. Her victims werent all her bullies either.

Carrie is a female incel with super powers and an out of control anger-management problem.

Sounds like you haven't read the book.
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OrdonGoatCheese
12/21/19 3:45:53 PM
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Oh, goodie. Another Stephen King film.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/21/19 3:48:04 PM
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1976, not 1974.

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Esrac
12/21/19 3:48:28 PM
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OctilIery posted...
That's an incredibly black and white viewpoint. The only reason Carrie is a monster is she hurt people trying to help her. If she'd just killed the bullies and her mother, she absolutely wouldn't be a villain.

(also batman has totally killed)

If a bullied student comes to school one day and shoots his bullies, is he not a monster? Is he not a villain if he shoots indiscriminately? That's the kind if logic you're using. You're suggesting its justifiable to murder people who treat you badly.
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OctilIery
12/21/19 3:48:33 PM
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OrdonGoatCheese posted...
Oh, goodie. Another Stephen King film.

More king is a great thing, though if like more of his new stuff done. Doctor Sleep was a good start.
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Middle hope
12/21/19 3:50:22 PM
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NGL sissy was hot as the original carrie

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OrdonGoatCheese
12/21/19 3:52:23 PM
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OctilIery posted...
More king is a great thing, though if like more of his new stuff done. Doctor Sleep was a good start.
Don't mind me, I'm probably still a little sore over the Dark Tower film. Have yet to see Doctor Sleep.

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Smashingpmkns
12/21/19 3:53:36 PM
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Carrie does not need to be remade again. I'm also a little burnt out on all of these King adaptations.
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Lorenzo_2003
12/21/19 3:56:35 PM
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OctilIery posted...
Sounds like you haven't read the book.

Stop.

Youre not not the only Stephen King fan here, especially if we are discussing his earlier books. I have read Carrie. It was short and simple, and I liked it a lot, almost as much as Misery. Sometimesthose end up much better than many of his longer stories that meander in various directions. Regardless, what I said wasnt false. When Joker came out, a lot of people were saying it glorified and excused incels. I dont think it did, but clearly there was a bit of a vicarious revenge theme going on, considering his mental state and the torment he was subjected to. Carrie is similar, if you were to throw in religion and super powers.

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Big_Gold
12/21/19 3:57:16 PM
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Carrie was basically a school shooter, but she used her mind instead of a gun. She went from victim to victimized villian. She was a psycopath.
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OctilIery
12/21/19 3:58:11 PM
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OrdonGoatCheese posted...

Don't mind me, I'm probably still a little sore over the Dark Tower film. Have yet to see Doctor Sleep.

Same :(

Esrac posted...


If a bullied student comes to school one day and shoots his bullies, is he not a monster? Is he not a villain if he shoots indiscriminately? That's the kind if logic you're using. You're suggesting its justifiable to murder people who treat you badly.

No, I'm really not. But there's a major difference between justified and totally understandable. Carrie was not just bullied, she was tortured and brutalized day and night the bullying is honestly nothing compared to her home life. The point of Carrie is that her whole life was so incredibly awful thay it would make anyone snap. Carrie isn't the villain because literally anyone could go thay way in those circumstances.
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OctilIery
12/21/19 4:01:32 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...


Stop.

Youre not not the only Stephen King fan here, especially if we are discussing his earlier books. I have read Carrie. It was short and simple, and I liked it a lot, almost as much as Misery. Sometimesthose end up much better than many of his longer stories that meander in various directions. Regardless, what I said wasnt false. When Joker came out, a lot of people were saying it glorified and excused incels. I dont think it did, but clearly there was a bit of a vicarious revenge theme going on, considering his mental state and the torment he was subjected to. Carrie is similar, if you were to throw in religion and super powers.

Saying Carrie just has anger management issues is completely disregarding the circumstances that made her that way. It was not a personality flaw, it was a life flaw she had no control over.

Carrie isn't justified but neither is she evil. She isn't going out of her way to torment people when the rampage starts, she's basically a force of nature. Comparing her to Joker just doesn't work because she isn't planning to torment anyone, she's just going completely on instinct at the end.
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Duncanwii
12/21/19 4:09:09 PM
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OctilIery posted...
she's basically a force of nature.
No. Shes a 16(?) year old girl. At that age you know better. I say the town should have throw the book at her ifshe hadnt killed herself.

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