Current Events > Why does Greta Thunberg get to be a hypocrite about climate change?

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Shes all over complaining to world Leaders about climate change (while most world Leaders are already implementing laws to curb it)

Yet here she is ride a train back home through Germany. Excuse me, the train you're on consumed massive amounts of electricity. That electricity and the ways its produced have a negative impact on our climate Greta. Ride a bike, walk, sail I dont really care - but dont whine about everyone else not caring and being a parasite on the earth then turn around and buy a first class seat on an freaking train to get around

Kids these days

Ok boomer

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Irony posted...

Ok boomer

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you want to improve society and yet you participate in it, hypocrite

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Garioshi posted...

you want to improve society and yet you participate in it, hypocrite

This is like making the leader of the nutritional board an obese mammoth. Its hypocritical whether you like it or not friend

Dude shes like 6 years old she shouldn't travel alone anyways

I like when people use this type of logic, because you know right away that they aren't smart enough to debate and you can just move on with your night.

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Her face will be plastered on every magazine that came from the trees it's processed from, riding on every airplane that flies around. Ironic.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

I like when people use this type of logic, because you know right away that they aren't smart enough to debate and you can just move on with your night.

Hes not wrong though

That's why I only listen to climate activists who ride on horseback, the way nature intended.

people who complain about Thunberg amuse me

She's trying to be the difference she wants to see in the world. Can you say the same thing?

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TreyFlowers posted...

people who complain about Thunberg amuse me

She's trying to be the difference she wants to see in the world. Can you say the same thing?

How is she doing that while she rides a train

I cant compaign against obesity while eating a bigmac

linid0t posted...

Hes not wrong though

Yes he is. I agree we need to do more for the environment and support green initiatives. Unfortunately, i also have to live a life and that sometimes includes driving a car which at the current moment can make things worse. I understand that and will continue to push for cleaner options, but until those cleaner options present themselves I'm not a hypocrite for participating in society the way it currently is. This is what we've been handed, so this is how we currently have to do things. doesn't mean we also can't work to make those things within society better.

Its like saying to someone who is protesting for lower tuition costs "Hmmm, you think college costs too much yet you still went to college...CURIOUS!"....Yea of course they did. they had to to be able to make it in the society we currently have set so they could get a better degree and hopefully a better job (which isn't even a promise but that's another discussion for another time). Them being willing to do it then doesn't mean they suddenly now can't fight to make things better at the same time. Its just a stupid low IQ argument.

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A train, however it gets its electricity, is vastly more efficient than car travel. But at a certain point you run up against the limits of the existing infrastructure; she can't take a 100% clean transport method if it isn't offer. Which is why the call is for political change, not shaming everyone into living like hermits.
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she probably farts too

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Are people seriously egging a 16 year old for being unable to travel everywhere on foot and bicycle?

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GigaSPX posted...

Her face will be plastered on every magazine that came from the trees it's processed from, riding on every airplane that flies around. Ironic.

That's what Joe Rogan was saying to Tony Hinchcliffe the other day.I mean it's true but damn I'd hate to be on the sail boat she captains..as far as the Times Magazine what's she gonna do,call them to say "no take me off,I'd rather get a Nobel for saying no dont use me"?

If every person with voice that tries for change were limited to horses....nvm they fart too.


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Because trains, by virtue of their ability to carry hundreds of people at a time across great distances, use less fossil fuels than if everyone on that train was travelling by car - whether they all used individual cars, or if groups of four passengers shared a car between them. A majority of people can't travel without leaving a carbon footprint, especially when you're on a schedule to get to where you need to go, but some methods of transportation are better than others in regards to CO2 emissions and by changing your method of transport, you can reduce pollution just a little bit.

If Greta Thunberg was riding down the Autobahn in a Hummer limo, chowing down on McDonalds and eating luxury chocolate that still uses child labor to pick its cocoa beans, she'd be a massive hypocrite. Speaking about saving the environment while she lives it up. But she doesn't do fancy dinners, she doesn't pat herself on the back when someone tries to give her an award. I doubt she participates in fundraisers where everyone's getting a five-star meal just for being there. She's travelling by train with hundreds of other people, hitching rides with people who are already travelling to where she needs to go, and staying focused with her message of "your policies are destroying the Earth, my future is threatened as well as billions of people who are less fortunate than me, stop being such a scumbag and make some changes that ensure that my generation will have a habitable world to live in".

Which you might paint as sanctimonious, holier-than-thou or hypocritical because she's a well-off white girl from Sweden, so what room does she have to complain about being hard done by, but in that case, why aren't we listening to African activists who are talking about the plight of impoverished Africans, and how their conditions are worsening thanks to the increasingly hot climate? What are you doing to change things, and what am I doing? Are you so hostile because you think she's being a doomsday alarmist, and we don't actually need to change that much? Is it because you don't think she has any significant knowledge or experience with climate science, and it does the facts a disservice to listen to someone who isn't a professional?

Because the reason Greta Thunberg is a big deal, one reason why she goes all in and attacks world leaders to their face and talks about how the Earth is dying and it's the fault of our leaders - is because those leaders aren't listening to climate change scientists or other activists. There are people who make a living monitoring our weather conditions and researching the impact of the rising temperature of the world on nature, and we've been told time and time again that we're headed for a mass extinction event, that our icebergs are melting and raising the sea level, that wildfires are going to become more common and infinitely more dangerous. There are groups of people talking about how the rising temperatures are making it harder for people to farm, for people to survive with limited shelter available to them. Countries like Australia are in severe drought, and windfires have demolished millions of hectares of forest this year - I should know, because my country is still on fire and we've lost over 2.7 million hectares of forest. But no-one takes this information seriously as things continue to get worse in line with their predictions. Our leaders don't take the data seriously.

So Greta Thunberg, who has a bit of clout for being a young person who's dedicated herself to spreading the word about climate change, has taken a moral approach in response to this. To say "by refusing to act on this information, you're selling my future and the future of your children down the river for short-term comfort". Her activism before and after that pivotal moment has done more to affect the climate change conversation than you or I ever have, through positive and negative coverage. Her insistence to travel with others, or to travel by train, is a conscious choice to take a method of transport that produces less CO2 than hundreds of individual cars travelling in the same direction.

But taking the only realistic method of transportation with the lowest carbon footprint possible is still hypocritical because it leaves a carbon footprint in the first place. Never mind the vegan diet, using her position to tell world leaders to their face that their ass-backwards policies are ruining shit for everyone who'll live after they die, and trying to shorten her inevitable carbon footprint by travelling with people who are already heading towards where she needs to go. She's a hypocrite and a liar because she can't shorten her carbon footprint to zero and because she comes from wealth, while we all waste plastic and consume vast amounts of electricity to feed our modern middle-class lifestyles. She can get all that flack because she's an activist, despite the positive changes she's making to her travelling and dietary requirements, but we can continue to be lazy slobs because we're not claiming to be anything more than that and that makes us above criticism compared to a 16 year old girl who's using every resource at her disposal to make the world a better place to live in.

Fuck off with that.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

I like when people use this type of logic, because you know right away that they aren't smart enough to debate and you can just move on with your night.

Or you just don't have a counter. But whatever makes you feel good buddy

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Or you just don't have a counter. But whatever makes you feel good buddy

i offered up a counter ITT. but my post still stands. this type of logic and stupid low iq logic and not worth engaging.

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TheVipaGTS posted...

i offered up a counter ITT. but my post still stands. this type of logic and stupid low iq logic and not worth engaging.

Okay, but what are those(feasible) alternatives that society is choosing not to utilize exacly?

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Okay, but what are those(feasible) alternatives that society is choosing not to utilize exacly?

Many are refusing to even acknowledge it, calling climate change a hoax and turning it into political theater...the first fight is to get people to wake up and finally acknowledge that something needs to be done. that's what Gretta and many others are currently doing. once that happens we can start working on ways to fix the issue. Regulations on car manufacturing, advancements in electric and a few other things are starting to grow but there is more that can be done, but won't be done as long as those who are paid off keep calling it a hoax and refuse to even entertain the idea of it.

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In Sweden, trains counts as a green alternative.
And Germany is pretty big on renewable energy.

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This topic needs a giant /s tag

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Greta is awesome and people need to leave her alone

DuranOfForcena posted...

https://i.imgur.com/tWJMDro.jpg

lol that's literally what this thread is

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linid0t posted...

How is she doing that while she rides a train

I cant compaign against obesity while eating a bigmac

Of course you can't.

You need to be making Mountaindew Doritos shake while complaining healthcare.

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