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StealthRock posted...

What was the 1st date?

the ending was the first date after spending much of book 3 growing very close (the vast majority of there screen time is shared) and book 4 flirting with each other they go on a first date at the end of the series


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StealthRock posted...

Tp be honest though its dumb when two straight characters do it too

Oh it is dumb, but reactionaries act like one is substantially worse and harms culture of whatever they believe.

But as some others have pointed out, there was in fact development

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YLHvo5RFFFs&list=LLkjOyvD3_HNsbMohcNiPNNQ&index=73&t=

this video discusses all the development aspects very well

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masterpug53 posted...

* From Season 3 onward, Asami guards Korra's body while Korra is in the Spirit World, a role exclusively reserved for the Spirit World-goer's SO throughout both series (the only exception being Jinora in S2, who has no SO at the time)
* Korra visibly blushes when Asami compliments her haircut, which in these shows is an inarguable sign of romantic interest
* Shortly thereafter, Korra and Asami have a pseudo-lover's fight, after which even Mako takes notice and comments 'is something going on between you two?'
* Asami is the only one Korra feels comfortable writing to while she's in her depressive state

The foreshadowing is there. You can nitpick it apart until you're blue in the face, but your inability to perceive it upon first viewing won't magically cause it to not be there; there was sufficient foreshadowing to bring things to the final shot of the show, which was two same-sex characters coming to the realization that they had romantic feelings for each other. More room for development would have always been welcome, but what we got was very likely the maximum extent of onscreen relationship Nickelodeon allowed the showrunners to portray.

I will have rewatch it now. However,

1. When was this stated??? Not to mention at the time they werent "SO's" anyways.

2. Blushing doesnt necessarily mean sexual attraction. People blush when embarrassed too. Korra, being a very tomboysoh girl, would blush of someone told her that he rare effort to look pretty payed off

3. "something going on" could mean anything. Its not specific to romantic feelings

4. Guess close friends would never do this either

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masterpug53 posted...

Can I assume that you've already had the instances of foreshadowing starting in Book 3 pointed out to you by another poster at some point, or do I have the privilege of being the first to do so, to be inevitably met with the usual rebuttals of 'that's not enough!' or 'that just means they're good friends!'

StealthRock posted...

4. Guess close friends would never do this either

*slow clap*


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masterpug53 posted...

*slow clap*

He's not wrong at all though.

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dave_is_slick posted...

He's not wrong at all though.

if mako had been the one comforting korra at the end of book 3 NO ONE would see it as anything but romantic (it even gives a close up of hand holding during this scene)

oh and guess what the comics confirm this is when korra started to develop feelings for asami the super romantic scene was *gasp* romantic

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Blue_Dream87 posted...

I also think the surprise was because, at the time, there weren't any homosexual relationships in cartoons so it was more impactful and stood out.

Pretty sure MarcelinexBubblegum was already being set up since "What was missing" (which aired in 2011), and before anyone says that it wasn't much setup, one doesn't sing "I'm just your problem" to just a friend

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dave_is_slick posted...

He's not wrong at all though.

He quite is. The 'that just means they're good friends' stance is not only the most tired and easily-debunked attitude towards Korrasami, but also one of the most tired attitudes towards homosexual relationships in general. The showrunners stated that Korra and Asami building towards a relationship was their intention starting in Book 3, and the foreshadowing is there. His willful ignorance / resistance towards it doesn't change this. There is no ambiguity because it was the showrunners' explicit intent to plant these seeds, and Korra and Asami did in fact end up in a romantic relationship; to continue to deny this is to quite simply deny the reality of the situation.

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masterpug53 posted...

He quite is. The 'that just means they're good friends' stance is not only the most tired and easily-debunked attitude towards Korrasami, but also one of the most tired attitudes towards homosexual relationships in general. The showrunners stated that Korra and Asami building towards a relationship was their intention starting in Book 3, and the foreshadowing is there. His willful ignorance / resistance towards it doesn't change this. There is no ambiguity because it was the showrunners' explicit intent to plant these seeds, and Korra and Asami did in fact end up in a romantic relationship; to continue to deny this is to quite simply deny the reality of the situation.

Marcie and PB is buildup. This wasn't. I don't know why it bothers you so much.

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AceMos posted...

if mako had been the one comforting korra at the end of book 3 NO ONE would see it as anything but romantic (it even gives a close up of hand holding during this scene)

oh and guess what the comics confirm this is when korra started to develop feelings for asami the super romantic scene was *gasp* romantic

Mako was a love interest from the beginning so your first point is absolutely correct, just not the way you thought.

Also, you know damn well they're using the comics to try to subtly retcon things.

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Terrible show and avatar. literally ended the avatar line.

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dave_is_slick posted...

Mako was a love interest from the beginning so your first point is absolutely correct, just not the way you thought.

Also, you know damn well they're using the comics to try to subtly retcon things.

you are factually wrong its not a retcon at all it was confirming what fans had said at the time it aired

once again why does a FIRST DATE need to have so much damn build up

korrasami has more build up than verrick and jullie got and they get married (by the way i dos hip these to)

but oh no 2 seasons building up to a first date is till not enough

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dave_is_slick posted...

Marcie and PB is buildup. This wasn't. I don't know why it bothers you so much.

A umad attempt is a pretty clear sign that you're running out of steam.

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Supernatural posted...

Terrible show and avatar. literally ended the avatar line.

You and a few others have really shitty opinions. I doubt you even watched the fucking show

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AceMos posted...

you are factually wrong its not a retcon at all it was confirming what fans had said at the time it aired

once again why does a FIRST DATE need to have so much damn build up

korrasami has more build up than verrick and jullie got and they get married (by the way i dos hip these to)

but oh no 2 seasons building up to a first date is till not enough

Since the show did not actually build anything up, it is indeed a retcon.

You're the only one mentioning a first date. Nobody else has.

Varrick and Julie already had a strange relationship that you could tell was oozing with sexual tension.

Again, real buildup, proper buildup is what they did with Marcie and PB. AKA, something substantial from the get go that left questions but had people immediately wondering if they were a thing before with subsequent episodes dropping more and more real clues. They didn't start with something that is easily dismissed as something just friends would be doing.

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masterpug53 posted...

A umad attempt is a pretty clear sign that you're running out of steam.

I mean, saying that good friends writing letters is not a thing is the bigger indication that this buildup was weak as hell.

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dave_is_slick posted...

Since the show did not actually build anything up, it is indeed a retcon.

You're the only one mentioning a first date. Nobody else has.

how is it a retcon when the creators confirmed shortly after the final aired that yes all those moments where romantic again i personally saw them as what they are

and the show ENDED on the two going on a first date have you even seen the show?

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masterpug53 posted...

*slow clap*

Predicting an argument does give yours any more validity

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The Korrasami Denier Backpedal is a dance that never gets old, in that it was already plenty old five years ago.

'It came out of nowhere and had no foreshadowing!'

*Lists foreshadowing*

'Well...that just means they're good friends, doesn't mean they're in some kind of realtionship!'

*Points out that the creators intent was explicit and no, they did quite obviously end up in a relationship*

'Well...it's still bad, why are you so upset about it?'

I guess I shouldn't complain that 'well other shows have since given same-sex couples more development' has become a new step in the dance over the past couple years, since it obviously means gay representation has become more commonplace.

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AceMos posted...

how is it a retcon when the creators confirmed shortly after the final aired that yes all those moments where romantic again i personally saw them as what they are

and the show ENDED on the two going on a first date have you even seen the show?

*Shortly after*


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StealthRock posted...

Predicting an argument does give yours any more validity

Thanks for giving me a chance to screencap your freudian slip before you had a chance to edit it.

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masterpug53 posted...

Thanks for giving me a chance to screencap your freudian slip before you had a chance to edit it.

Ok. Wasnt a slip at all. But ok

If typos are what you cling tp then i feel sorry for you

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StealthRock posted...

*Shortly after*

they confirmed it 4 days after the final aired that is shortly after

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AceMos posted...

they confirmed it 4 days after the final aired that is shortly after

Im saying that they did so after the fact. Which doesnt negate the possibility of last minute changes or retcons

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StealthRock posted...

Ok. Wasnt a slip at all. But ok

If typos are what you cling tp then i feel sorry for you

Clingy tp is the worst, we can definitely find common ground there.

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masterpug53 posted...

Clingy tp is the worst, we can definitely find common ground there.

Lol resorting to childish nitpicking

Guess you really buried this argument didnt you?

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StealthRock posted...

Im saying that they did so after the fact. Which doesnt negate the possibility of last minute changes or retcons

how is it a retcon for a creator to directly state what the intent was

and the fact people where calling the scene romantic when it happened as in when the book 3 final first aired people where calling it ship tease of korrasami (which it was)


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StealthRock posted...

Im saying that they did so after the fact. Which doesnt negate the possibility of last minute changes or retcons

This is the crux of your entire problem: you're aggressively denying the reality put before you for the sake of reinforcing and attempting to prove your incorrect first impression. Exactly what problem do you have with looking at the information given you in this topic and saying 'oh, okay...well, I can see that.' What is your motivation to dig in your heels and repeatedly deny this?

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Supernatural posted...

Terrible show and avatar. literally ended the avatar line.

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AceMos posted...

how is it a retcon for a creator to directly state what the intent was

and the fact people where calling the scene romantic when it happened as in when the book 3 final first aired people where calling it ship tease of korrasami (which it was)

Shipteases go on all the time

Or was Zutarra not a thing??

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Another day another dumb acemos rant/topic

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you did not read my post at all did you the creators where hinting at a romance between korra and asami again if mako had been in that scene at the end of book 3 every one would take it as romantic

and i once again ask why a first date (which is what the series ended on) even needs build up in the first place

i get the feeling you have never dated in your life

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masterpug53 posted...

This is the crux of your entire problem: you're aggressively denying the reality put before you for the sake of reinforcing and attempting to prove your incorrect first impression. Exactly what problem do you have with looking at the information given you in this topic and saying 'oh, okay...well, I can see that.' What is your motivation to dig in your heels and repeatedly deny this?

I never said i couldnt see anything

I saying that the info presented or the so called evidence is not as blatant as you make it out to be as it can and does often between people who are close, whether they be friends, family, or lovers.

My motivation is to have a damn discussion. But you seem to be having trouble doing that without resorting to silly nitpicks or insults

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AceMos posted...

you did not read my post at all did you the creators where hinting at a romance between korra and asami again if mako had been in that scene at the end of book 3 every one would take it as romantic

and i once again ask why a first date (which is what the series ended on) even needs build up in the first place

i get the feeling you have never dated in your life

I get the feeling that you seem to also be resorting to insults instead of just trusting your stance

There was already tension and attraction between Mako and Korra. So of course it would be seen as romantic.

I guess when asking someone out, you usually just do it out of nowhere without provocation. You dont flirt, talk, or anything beforehand. You dont even gauge attraction first. Anyone who is friendly to you is attracted to you

Got it

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korra and assami did flirt through out book 4 thoe and they where best friends before hand (they became best friends in book 3) so your point on dating is invalid

look you watched the show through a heteronormative lens i watched it with the eyes of a lesbian woman so i saw it all for what it was

you can play spin doctor all you want but every scene I and others called romantic build up ended up as romantic build up and that is how history played out

you ASSUMED they where strait so did not see anything but friendship and no both of them are bisexual woman who hooked up for a first date

do you complain this much about sokka and sukis relationship which was done over 1 episode a episode which the 2 hated each other for most of (and i ship these 2 by the way)

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I have no idea how people viewed that scene as a lesbian moment. wtf

mako was a dumbass though, asami > korra

asami he would have been a man of leisure

with korra he has to work and bitch literally rocks up to his workplace and chimps out on him

StealthRock posted...

I get the feeling that you seem to also be resorting to insults instead of just trusting your stance

There was already tension and attraction between Mako and Korra. So of course it would be seen as romantic.

I guess when asking someone out, you usually just do it out of nowhere without provocation. You dont flirt, talk, or anything beforehand. You dont even gauge attraction first. Anyone who is friendly to you is attracted to you

Got it

I didn't expect anything to come of it, but I always thought Korra and Asami had a flirtier dynamic than anyone else did.

I mean outside of the crazy rapey twin.

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coh posted...

Adventure Time and Regular Show turn 10 next year

...how in the fuck....

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