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AirFresh
12/19/19 7:41:08 AM
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Yes.

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Shablagoo
12/19/19 7:49:02 AM
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joe40001 posted...
Thank you, I'm sorry if I ever twisted your words. That was not my intent. I've had concerns that you weren't arguing in good faith, perhaps they were overstated, I apologize for that too.

Thanks man

I don't know about the cadre of users, but "knowing some hyperbole was used" aside, I would speculate that they only respond when the topic is brought up.

Sure, but theyre often the ones bringing it up in the first place. I wont try to force you to believe me, hopefully other users can either confirm or deny my claim.

I think your connection between hate crimes and "the mindset" is far too tenuous. Being a person who acts violently, not a sexual preference against trans people, is the common thread when considering scenarios of violence against trans people. What you are suggesting isn't that far from saying being heterosexual is the same mindset as those who commit violence against gay people. I don't think the connection is there.

Fair enough.

Finally, I will skip giving an example scenario because I have some concern it will be concerned to be an argument of equivalence between groups. But I would imagine you could think of a scenario where you were attracted to a person but then upon learning something about their history or character you were no longer attracted to them. It isn't that you claimed you were attracted to them and then claimed you weren't. It was that the person you were attracted to, the person you thought they were, ended up being not who they really were. I would think that such a thing is a thing you could find to be empathetic even if you can't empathize explicitly with people for whom "being born biologically" male is a deal breaker.

Its hard to really compare the situation to anything. Let me think a bit on this.

I do like to think I can have empathy for them while also thinking their deal breaker may come from a place of ignorance or fear stemming from mass cultural stigma, though.

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LoL-eSports_462
12/19/19 7:51:24 AM
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Pretty soon I imagine

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joe40001
12/19/19 8:01:30 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Thanks man

Sure, but theyre often the ones bringing it up in the first place. I wont try to force you to believe me, hopefully other users can either confirm or deny my claim.

Fair enough.

Its hard to really compare the situation to anything. Let me think a bit on this.

I do like to think I can have empathy for them while also thinking their deal breaker may come from a place of ignorance or fear stemming from mass cultural stigma, though.

And you might be right about that. Whether there are good reasons or just bad reasons to have that preference could be interesting to think about. One could almost make the same question about anybody who is 0% bicurious.

I'm happy with this discussion though. I think we came to a pretty good common ground.

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Shablagoo
12/19/19 8:36:13 AM
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joe40001 posted...
And you might be right about that. Whether there are good reasons or just bad reasons to have that preference could be interesting to think about. One could almost make the same question about anybody who is 0% bicurious.

Interesting point, of course the difference there would be there was never any initial attraction.

I'm happy with this discussion though. I think we came to a pretty good common ground.

Same!:)

@RickyTheBAWSE faith in CEmanity restored?

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RickyTheBAWSE
12/19/19 8:41:37 AM
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yes! I believe there is hope for the future of CE.
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Shablagoo
12/19/19 11:19:18 AM
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@joe40001

P.S. sorry for accusing you of concern trolling, and thanks for being willing to continue the conversation after that.

RickyTheBAWSE posted...
yes! I believe there is hope for the future of CE.

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SrRd_RacinG
12/19/19 8:29:22 PM
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Dating is complicated enough as it is. We must all be sincere from the get-go.

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toyota
12/20/19 1:53:18 AM
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gunplagirl posted...
Separate yet equal? Gosh, where have I heard that bullshit before?
Dont know but is what I posted really that unreasonable?
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Wewillrocku
12/20/19 1:54:51 AM
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SrRd_RacinG posted...
Dating is complicated enough as it is. We must all be sincere from the get-go.
100% true, confucius said something similar.

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Philosopher_X
12/20/19 2:41:32 AM
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Would be nice if individuals would stop burdening strangers with the baggage they got from people having nothing to do with them.
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Shablagoo
12/20/19 3:24:08 AM
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toyota posted...
Dont know but is what I posted really that unreasonable?

You dont know where the phrase separate but equal comes from?

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toyota
12/20/19 3:38:01 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
You dont know where the phrase separate but equal comes from?
No? Why should I?
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Shablagoo
12/20/19 3:57:42 AM
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toyota posted...
No? Why should I?

Its weird that you often speak so confidently about American issues but have such large fundamental gaps in your knowledge of U.S. history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal

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SrRd_RacinG
12/21/19 3:23:21 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Its weird that you often speak so confidently about American issues but have such large fundamental gaps in your knowledge of U.S. history:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Separate_but_equal

Ohhh!!

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