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Ethosian 12/15/19 12:58:41 PM #102:	Definitely depends if pre or post op. Preop should be upfront about it before getting naked. Post op should be upfront before getting serious (due to desire for kids) <cite>Ethosian posted [p:931618167] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Definitely depends if pre or post op. Preop should be upfront about it before getting naked. Post op should be upfront before getting serious (due to desire for kids) </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 12/15/19 12:59:57 PM #103:	asdf8562 posted... I love how you just assumed I'm religious. Hint, hint, I'm not. And no science still says you were born a male. Science still says you have an XY chromosome. of course you're not religious... you're a theist who isn't religious. makes sense. speaking of xy chromosomes, these aren't people. they're chromosomes. lol. --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:931618227] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>asdf8562 posted... </cite> <quote>I love how you just assumed I'm religious. Hint, hint, I'm not. And no science still says you were born a male. Science still says you have an XY chromosome.</quote>of course you're not religious... you're a theist who isn't religious. makes sense. speaking of xy chromosomes, these aren't people. they're chromosomes. lol. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 12/15/19 1:03:55 PM #104:	Wewillrocku posted... of course you're not religious... you're a theist who isn't religious. makes sense. speaking of xy chromosomes, these aren't people. they're chromosomes. lol. Not religious at all, meaning atheist. Then again, going over the rest of your post, its too much of a trainwreck to be a serious post. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:931618380] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted... </cite> <quote>of course you're not religious... you're a theist who isn't religious. makes sense. speaking of xy chromosomes, these aren't people. they're chromosomes. lol.</quote>Not religious at all, meaning atheist. Then again, going over the rest of your post, its too much of a trainwreck to be a serious post. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 12/15/19 1:08:24 PM #105:	asdf8562 posted... Not religious at all, meaning atheist. Then again, going over the rest of your post, its too much of a trainwreck to be a serious post. i find that hard to believe. i've known christians who lie and claim to be atheists when questioned about questionable political views they have. this can easily happen on the internet and it does. since you won't admit that xy chromosomes have nothing to do with a human person's gender identity and literally can't, i guess i can't argue the point. can't say anything when the other person refuses to discuss it. --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:931618552] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>asdf8562 posted... </cite> <quote>Not religious at all, meaning atheist. Then again, going over the rest of your post, its too much of a trainwreck to be a serious post.</quote>i find that hard to believe. i've known christians who lie and claim to be atheists when questioned about questionable political views they have. this can easily happen on the internet and it does. since you won't admit that xy chromosomes have nothing to do with a human person's gender identity and literally can't, i guess i can't argue the point. can't say anything when the other person refuses to discuss it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Trent 12/15/19 1:09:01 PM #106:	lol you're ridiculous --- i swear to God most of y'all cats just don't know The Trent you barely know yourself so i guess most of y'all should be offended <cite>The Trent posted [p:931618568] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>lol you're ridiculous </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
asdf8562 12/15/19 1:12:47 PM #107:	Wewillrocku posted... i find that hard to believe. i've known christians who lie and claim to be atheists when questioned about questionable political views they have. this can easily happen on the internet and it does. since you won't admit that xy chromosomes have nothing to do with a human person's gender identity and literally can't, i guess i can't argue the point. can't say anything when the other person refuses to discuss it. Your entire argument is nonsensical arguing your feelings. First of all gender identity =/= sex. If you were born with XY chromosomes, you were scientifically and factually born a male. You feeling like a female doesnt change scientifically you were a male with XY chromosomes. A sex change doesnt change what you were born as either. I don't even need to address your nonsensical argument pertaining to me being an atheist. I've always bashed religion and find it the root to many of the world's problems. Not interested in convincing you I'm an atheist nor is it relevant when speaking science. <cite>asdf8562 posted [p:931618702] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted... </cite> <quote>i find that hard to believe. i've known christians who lie and claim to be atheists when questioned about questionable political views they have. this can easily happen on the internet and it does. since you won't admit that xy chromosomes have nothing to do with a human person's gender identity and literally can't, i guess i can't argue the point. can't say anything when the other person refuses to discuss it.</quote>Your entire argument is nonsensical arguing your feelings. First of all gender identity =/= sex. If you were born with XY chromosomes, you were scientifically and factually born a male. You feeling like a female doesnt change scientifically you were a male with XY chromosomes. A sex change doesnt change what you were born as either. I don't even need to address your nonsensical argument pertaining to me being an atheist. I've always bashed religion and find it the root to many of the world's problems. Not interested in convincing you I'm an atheist nor is it relevant when speaking science. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 12/15/19 1:17:41 PM #108:	Trans people are "scientifically" born trans. Now can we please just ask if someone's trans if we need to know? It makes more sense than hoping someone read your mind. Shouldn't a cis woman understand just like a trans woman that men have preferences and that it isn't always obvious? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:931618904] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Trans people are "scientifically" born trans. Now can we please just ask if someone's trans if we need to know? It makes more sense than hoping someone read your mind. Shouldn't a cis woman understand just like a trans woman that men have preferences and that it isn't always obvious? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 12/15/19 1:21:11 PM #109:	asdf8562 posted... Your entire argument is nonsensical arguing your feelings. First of all gender identity =/= sex. If you were born with XY chromosomes, you were scientifically and factually born a male. You feeling like a female doesnt change scientifically you were a male with XY chromosomes. I don't even need to address your nonsensical argument pertaining to me being an atheist. I've always bashed religion and find it the root to many of the world's problems. Not interested in convincing you I'm an atheist nor is it relevant when speaking science. lol, facts not feelings. what a great argument. so scientific and very believable that an atheist would make this argument. there are various people who have different (or even damaged) xy chromosomes but still must be assigned a gender, their existence (they may or may not be transgender) is enough to show that xy chromosomes mean squat for gender based issues. science is not and could not be on the side of people who would limit the freedom of transgender people to pursue happiness. --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:931619023] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>asdf8562 posted... </cite> <quote>Your entire argument is nonsensical arguing your feelings. First of all gender identity =/= sex. If you were born with XY chromosomes, you were scientifically and factually born a male. You feeling like a female doesnt change scientifically you were a male with XY chromosomes. I don't even need to address your nonsensical argument pertaining to me being an atheist. I've always bashed religion and find it the root to many of the world's problems. Not interested in convincing you I'm an atheist nor is it relevant when speaking science.</quote>lol, facts not feelings. what a great argument. so scientific and very believable that an atheist would make this argument. there are various people who have different (or even damaged) xy chromosomes but still must be assigned a gender, their existence (they may or may not be transgender) is enough to show that xy chromosomes mean squat for gender based issues. science is not and could not be on the side of people who would limit the freedom of transgender people to pursue happiness. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
legendary_zell 12/15/19 1:23:06 PM #110:	It's very clear this is about protecting straight, or anti-trans men's sense of masculinity. Transpeople are only perceived as a potential threat to that masculinity, not as real people. That's why people are expecting the ridiculous. The threat must be reduced. And that's also why the more anti-trans people are, the earlier they expect disclosure. --- I gotta be righteous, I gotta be me, I gotta be conscious, I gotta be free, I gotta be able, I gotta attack, I gotta be stable, I gotta be black. <cite>legendary_zell posted [p:931619103] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>It's very clear this is about protecting straight, or anti-trans men's sense of masculinity. Transpeople are only perceived as a potential threat to that masculinity, not as real people. That's why people are expecting the ridiculous. The threat must be reduced. And that's also why the more anti-trans people are, the earlier they expect disclosure. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 12/15/19 1:25:06 PM #111:	legendary_zell posted... It's very clear this is about protecting straight, or anti-trans men's sense of masculinity. Transpeople are only perceived as a potential threat to that masculinity, not as real people. That's why people are expecting the ridiculous. The threat must be reduced. And that's also why the more anti-trans people are, the earlier they expect disclosure. I just wanna pound some pussy, man --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:931619181] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>legendary_zell posted... </cite> <quote>It's very clear this is about protecting straight, or anti-trans men's sense of masculinity. Transpeople are only perceived as a potential threat to that masculinity, not as real people. That's why people are expecting the ridiculous. The threat must be reduced. And that's also why the more anti-trans people are, the earlier they expect disclosure.</quote> I just wanna pound some pussy, man </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Wewillrocku 12/15/19 1:26:59 PM #112:	Unsugarized_Foo posted... I just wanna pound some pussy, man yeah, straight people are not the problem. they couldn't be. there's nothing natural about hating fellow human beings (and being straight is at least part of nature). there's a cause for hate and it has no cause in nature. --- The american prison system is a sorry mess but giving them game consoles isn't going to solve anything. Zurriah <cite>Wewillrocku posted [p:931619246] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Unsugarized_Foo posted... </cite> <quote>I just wanna pound some pussy, man</quote>yeah, straight people are not the problem. they couldn't be. there's nothing natural about hating fellow human beings (and being straight is at least part of nature). there's a cause for hate and it has no cause in nature. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NatsuSama 12/15/19 1:28:22 PM #113:	Wewillrocku posted... lol, facts not feelings. what a great argument. so scientific and very believable that an atheist would make this argument. there are various people who have different (or even damaged) xy chromosomes but still must be assigned a gender, their existence (they may or may not be transgender) is enough to show that xy chromosomes mean squat for gender based issues. science is not and could not be on the side of people who would limit the freedom of transgender people to pursue happiness. I pray this isnt a serious post and your just trolling --- WAAAH, I CAN'T BEAT THIS GUY WITH HIS TACTICS, I'M GONNA CALL IT SPAM AND CONDEMN HIM FOR USING IT <cite>NatsuSama posted [p:931619311] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted... </cite> <quote>lol, facts not feelings. what a great argument. so scientific and very believable that an atheist would make this argument. there are various people who have different (or even damaged) xy chromosomes but still must be assigned a gender, their existence (they may or may not be transgender) is enough to show that xy chromosomes mean squat for gender based issues. science is not and could not be on the side of people who would limit the freedom of transgender people to pursue happiness.</quote>I pray this isnt a serious post and your just trolling </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Unsugarized_Foo 12/15/19 1:30:42 PM #114:	Wewillrocku posted... yeah, straight people are not the problem. they couldn't be. there's nothing natural about hating fellow human beings (and being straight is at least part of nature). there's a cause for hate and it has no cause in nature. Just want some good olde fashion sex --- "All I have is my balls and my word, and I don't break them for anyone!"-Tony Montana <cite>Unsugarized_Foo posted [p:931619398] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Wewillrocku posted... </cite> <quote>yeah, straight people are not the problem. they couldn't be. there's nothing natural about hating fellow human beings (and being straight is at least part of nature). there's a cause for hate and it has no cause in nature.</quote> Just want some good olde fashion sex </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Extreme_light 12/15/19 1:31:05 PM #115:	Whenever they are personally ready and ideally before any sex. Revealing it right away work for some trans people but some folks are violently transphobic and shady so it's better they get a feel for a person. It's dating after all, not a finalized commitment. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rC7BAt96Xn0 <cite>Extreme_light posted [p:931619413] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Whenever they are personally ready and ideally before any sex. Revealing it right away work for some trans people but some folks are violently transphobic and shady so it's better they get a feel for a person. It's dating after all, not a finalized commitment. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BB mofo 12/15/19 2:12:42 PM #116:	Reminds me of a story where a passing trans-woman met a cis-dude while on vacation in Thailand. She kept telling him she was trans, but since they were both white, he thought she was joking with him. Eventually, she started to believe no one could be this dense and assumed he was just kidding with her and was alright with the arrangement. When he was in her hotel room and it got really intimate, she told him again. Fortunately, he believed her before it got down to removing clothes, but he was still in shock. It was a traumatic experience for both of them. --- "But who prays for Satan? Who, in eighteen centuries, has had the common humanity to pray for the one sinner that needed it most?" -Mark Twain <cite>BB mofo posted [p:931621177] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Reminds me of a story where a passing trans-woman met a cis-dude while on vacation in Thailand. She kept telling him she was trans, but since they were both white, he thought she was joking with him. Eventually, she started to believe no one could be this dense and assumed he was just kidding with her and was alright with the arrangement. When he was in her hotel room and it got really intimate, she told him again. Fortunately, he believed her before it got down to removing clothes, but he was still in shock. It was a traumatic experience for both of them. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Agnostic420 12/15/19 2:54:03 PM #117:	gunplagirl posted... "Hi I'm-" "I just need to know if you have a dick, ma'am" Then again pi still believed in the trans bathroom predator myth the last I checked, so I can't say I'm surprised. STFU. Nobody should be fucking tricked into dating someone transgender if they're straight. If you are actively seaking a male as a transgender, you have every fucking obligation to make that shit known immediately. Don't waste an hour or two in conversation to go "Oh! By the way.." Get the fuck outta here with that garbage. <cite>Agnostic420 posted [p:931622803] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>"Hi I'm-" "I just need to know if you have a dick, ma'am" Then again pi still believed in the trans bathroom predator myth the last I checked, so I can't say I'm surprised.</quote> STFU. Nobody should be fucking tricked into dating someone transgender if they're straight. If you are actively seaking a male as a transgender, you have every fucking obligation to make that shit known immediately. Don't waste an hour or two in conversation to go "Oh! By the way.." Get the fuck outta here with that garbage. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 12/15/19 2:54:58 PM #118:	Before you have sex. --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:931622839] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Before you have sex. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 12/15/19 2:58:45 PM #119:	So we should reintroduce yellow badges again? --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:931622986] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>So we should reintroduce yellow badges again? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRd_RacinG 12/15/19 3:26:57 PM #120:	Interesting comments. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRn3I4UyDoKyWLC/giphy.gif <cite>SrRd_RacinG posted [p:931624235] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Interesting comments. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pinky0926 12/15/19 6:38:06 PM #121:	CE really overworries about this stuff. There are a hundred or a thousand important things you need to know about a person before you're gonna date them, it's not like someone has to approach you with a goddamn list of their baggage before you can talk. I wish I knew my ex wanted to have kids before we started seriously dating but that wasnt declared immediately as soon as I said hello either. Relax ya jabronies. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. https://imgur.com/ILz2ZbV <cite>pinky0926 posted [p:931632105] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>CE really overworries about this stuff. There are a hundred or a thousand important things you need to know about a person before you're gonna date them, it's not like someone has to approach you with a goddamn list of their baggage before you can talk. I wish I knew my ex wanted to have kids before we started seriously dating but that wasnt declared immediately as soon as I said hello either. Relax ya jabronies. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 12/15/19 10:12:04 PM #122:	viewmaster_pi posted... Why is it okay to hide that up until then? Why spur on possible attachment and romantic intent, just to spring that on someone at the last second and just hope they're cool with it? The earlier it's communicated, the better; if they're cool with it, great, if not, you've saved each other a sour moment down the line. well i mean if you are hanging out with a buddy, you don't need to know what's in their pants. it's not your responsibility to tell your bros / girlfriends any more than that unless there's potentially going to be more. same thing with acquaintances, obviously. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:931642606] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>Why is it okay to hide that up until then? Why spur on possible attachment and romantic intent, just to spring that on someone at the last second and just hope they're cool with it? The earlier it's communicated, the better; if they're cool with it, great, if not, you've saved each other a sour moment down the line.</quote> well i mean if you are hanging out with a buddy, you don't need to know what's in their pants. it's not your responsibility to tell your bros / girlfriends any more than that unless there's potentially going to be more. same thing with acquaintances, obviously. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 12/15/19 10:14:51 PM #123:	Fam_Fam posted... well i mean if you are hanging out with a buddy, you don't need to know what's in their pants. it's not your responsibility to tell your bros / girlfriends any more than that unless there's potentially going to be more. same thing with acquaintances, obviously. Topic title says "in dating terms" pretty explicitly. Lots and lots of strawmans (not strawmen, lol) and just pointless deflections that go nowhere --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:931642769] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Fam_Fam posted... </cite> <quote>well i mean if you are hanging out with a buddy, you don't need to know what's in their pants. it's not your responsibility to tell your bros / girlfriends any more than that unless there's potentially going to be more. same thing with acquaintances, obviously.</quote>Topic title says "in dating terms" pretty explicitly. Lots and lots of strawmans (not strawmen, lol) and just pointless deflections that go nowhere </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fam_Fam 12/16/19 7:41:27 AM #124:	viewmaster_pi posted... Topic title says "in dating terms" pretty explicitly. Lots and lots of strawmans (not strawmen, lol) and just pointless deflections that go nowhere i know...which is why i said what i said. i think you should tell people once there's a strong indication of romantic attachment. it should be during the time when you're "dating" when its clear you've crossed the line between "hanging out" and going on "dates", because presumably a physical relationship would be incoming in most cases at that point. so both people should be clear about who they are and what they are working with. <cite>Fam_Fam posted [p:931656292] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>Topic title says "in dating terms" pretty explicitly. Lots and lots of strawmans (not strawmen, lol) and just pointless deflections that go nowhere</quote> i know...which is why i said what i said. i think you should tell people once there's a strong indication of romantic attachment. it should be during the time when you're "dating" when its clear you've crossed the line between "hanging out" and going on "dates", because presumably a physical relationship would be incoming in most cases at that point. so both people should be clear about who they are and what they are working with. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ZevLoveDOOM 12/16/19 7:42:26 AM #125:	i believe honesty is the best policy... <cite>ZevLoveDOOM posted [p:931656307] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>i believe honesty is the best policy... </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Akagami_Shanks 12/16/19 7:44:10 AM #126:	No reason to hide it, that's how people get killed Although it is usually pretty easy to tell irl if someone is trans anyway --- PSN: TYruler50 XBL: TYruler50, Switch: 4538-0715-0699, Battle.net: TYmaster50#1751, Steam: TYmaster50, 3DS FC: 4614-3266-5802, Wii U: Tymaster7601 <cite>Akagami_Shanks posted [p:931656335] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>No reason to hide it, that's how people get killed Although it is usually pretty easy to tell irl if someone is trans anyway </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Foppe 12/16/19 7:46:03 AM #127:	And people get killed because they tell as well. --- GameFAQs isn't going to be merged in with GameSpot or any other site. We're not going to strip out the soul of the site. -CJayC <cite>Foppe posted [p:931656355] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>And people get killed because they tell as well. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Dream87 12/16/19 7:59:47 AM #128:	Like 2nd or 3rd date. Whenever they're comfortable to reveal it but not too far into the relationship where if it's a deal breaker, not much wasted time + opportunity to just be friends --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:931656613] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Like 2nd or 3rd date. Whenever they're comfortable to reveal it but not too far into the relationship where if it's a deal breaker, not much wasted time + opportunity to just be friends </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 12/16/19 8:06:20 AM #129:	viewmaster_pi posted... Topic title says "in dating terms" pretty explicitly. Lots and lots of strawmans (not strawmen, lol) and just pointless deflections that go nowhere Thats not how dating works lol, think about how forward that is. Do you want everyone with a vagina to make sure they let you know thats what theyre packing, as their opening line on a first date? Hi Im viewmaster_pi, nice to meet you. Hi viewmaster_pi, I have a vagina down here and my name is Claire. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:931656756] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>Topic title says "in dating terms" pretty explicitly. Lots and lots of strawmans (not strawmen, lol) and just pointless deflections that go nowhere</quote> Thats not how dating works lol, think about how forward that is. Do you want everyone with a vagina to make sure they let you know thats what theyre packing, as their opening line on a first date? Hi Im viewmaster_pi, nice to meet you. Hi viewmaster_pi, I have a vagina down here and my name is Claire. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 12/16/19 8:10:05 AM #130:	Any time before sex when they feel comfortable and safe doing so. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:931656819] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Any time before sex when they feel comfortable and safe doing so. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_____Cait 12/16/19 8:11:34 AM #131:	Ask yourself this: Would I want to date someone who doesnt want to date a transgender person? Then just let logic run its course. --- ORAS secret base: https://imgur.com/V9nAVrd 3DS friend code: 0173-1465-1236 <cite>_____Cait posted [p:931656850] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Ask yourself this: Would I want to date someone who doesnt want to date a transgender person? Then just let logic run its course. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pus_N_Pecans 12/16/19 8:14:14 AM #132:	_____Cait posted... Ask yourself this: Would I want to date someone who doesnt want to date a transgender person? Then just let logic run its course. Pretty much this. The trans person doesn't NEED to tell anyone anything, but they could probably get a pretty good feel on who is and isn't a safe person when it comes to dating. --- My arts- https://www.deviantart.com/bleakcreep <cite>Pus_N_Pecans posted [p:931656895] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>_____Cait posted... </cite> <quote>Ask yourself this: Would I want to date someone who doesnt want to date a transgender person? Then just let logic run its course.</quote>Pretty much this. The trans person doesn't NEED to tell anyone anything, but they could probably get a pretty good feel on who is and isn't a safe person when it comes to dating. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRd_RacinG 12/16/19 11:58:09 AM #133:	In modern dating, this is often revealed on their profile so that may help. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRn3I4UyDoKyWLC/giphy.gif <cite>SrRd_RacinG posted [p:931663195] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>In modern dating, this is often revealed on their profile so that may help. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Caution999 12/16/19 12:03:37 PM #134:	Immediately. There's no sense in wasting either your time or their time. Suppose one of the people dating is trying to find their potential future partner and want children in the future? --- It's not the best choice....It's Spacer's Choice! <cite>Caution999 posted [p:931663399] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Immediately. There's no sense in wasting either your time or their time. Suppose one of the people dating is trying to find their potential future partner and want children in the future? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 12/16/19 12:16:41 PM #135:	Shablagoo posted... Thats not how dating works lol, think about how forward that is. Do you want everyone with a vagina to make sure they let you know thats what theyre packing, as their opening line on a first date? Hi Im viewmaster_pi, nice to meet you. Hi viewmaster_pi, I have a vagina down here and my name is Claire. I am quite fertile, heres my complete family medical history so you can evaluate if I will be an acceptable candidate for carrying your spawn. --- she/her https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:931663919] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted...</cite> <quote> Thats not how dating works lol, think about how forward that is. Do you want everyone with a vagina to make sure they let you know thats what theyre packing, as their opening line on a first date? Hi Im viewmaster_pi, nice to meet you. Hi viewmaster_pi, I have a vagina down here and my name is Claire. </quote> I am quite fertile, heres my complete family medical history so you can evaluate if I will be an acceptable candidate for carrying your spawn.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SrRd_RacinG 12/17/19 9:10:40 AM #136:	During oral sex. --- https://media.giphy.com/media/l3vRn3I4UyDoKyWLC/giphy.gif <cite>SrRd_RacinG posted [p:931702950] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>During oral sex. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 12/17/19 9:13:18 AM #137:	Trans people should at least make sure that their partner is interested in trans people romantically very very early. There certainly shouldn't be a situation where somebody feels "tricked". --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:931703011] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Trans people should at least make sure that their partner is interested in trans people romantically very very early. There certainly shouldn't be a situation where somebody feels "tricked". </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 12/17/19 9:13:39 AM #138:	PleaseClap posted... I am quite fertile, heres my complete family medical history so you can evaluate if I will be an acceptable candidate for carrying your spawn. Approaching dating Dwight Schrute-style lol xD --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:931703018] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted... </cite> <quote>I am quite fertile, heres my complete family medical history so you can evaluate if I will be an acceptable candidate for carrying your spawn.</quote> Approaching dating Dwight Schrute-style lol xD </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 12/17/19 9:14:10 AM #139:	PleaseClap posted... I am quite fertile, heres my complete family medical history so you can evaluate if I will be an acceptable candidate for carrying your spawn. I don't want kids, I just don't want to date people that have or had ever had a penis and testicles. Why that's some sort of crazy, profound, offensive notion here, I'll never understand. --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:931703028] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>PleaseClap posted... </cite> <quote>I am quite fertile, heres my complete family medical history so you can evaluate if I will be an acceptable candidate for carrying your spawn.</quote>I don't want kids, I just don't want to date people that have or had ever had a penis and testicles. Why that's some sort of crazy, profound, offensive notion here, I'll never understand. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 12/17/19 9:15:24 AM #140:	Anteaterking posted... If you "can't tell", then why does it matter? Because it matters to some people. You don't get to decide what matters to people. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:931703062] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Anteaterking posted... </cite> <quote>If you "can't tell", then why does it matter?</quote> Because it matters to some people. You don't get to decide what matters to people. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 12/17/19 9:41:31 AM #141:	joe40001 posted... Because it matters to some people. You don't get to decide what matters to people. Yeah we also dont get to decide in the case of this womans boyfriend who would never date a girl that had previously had sex with a black man https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/eb9u1t/my_boyfriend_said_he_would_never_date_a_girl_that/ but it still makes her (hopefully EX-) boyfriend a garbage ass racist who shouldnt be dated by anyone. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:931703698] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Because it matters to some people. You don't get to decide what matters to people.</quote> Yeah we also dont get to decide in the case of this womans boyfriend who would never date a girl that had previously had sex with a black man https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/eb9u1t/my_boyfriend_said_he_would_never_date_a_girl_that/ but it still makes her (hopefully EX-) boyfriend a garbage ass racist who shouldnt be dated by anyone. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 12/17/19 9:45:02 AM #142:	Shablagoo posted... Yeah we also dont get to decide in the case of this womans boyfriend who would never date a girl that had previously had sex with a black man https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/eb9u1t/my_boyfriend_said_he_would_never_date_a_girl_that/ but it still makes her (hopefully EX-) boyfriend a garbage ass racist who shouldnt be dated by anyone. Regardless of the reasons, we don't get to dictate other's sexual preferences, and we really shouldn't want to. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:931703789] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>Yeah we also dont get to decide in the case of this womans boyfriend who would never date a girl that had previously had sex with a black man https://www.reddit.com/r/TwoXChromosomes/comments/eb9u1t/my_boyfriend_said_he_would_never_date_a_girl_that/ but it still makes her (hopefully EX-) boyfriend a garbage ass racist who shouldnt be dated by anyone.</quote> Regardless of the reasons, we don't get to dictate other's sexual preferences, and we really shouldn't want to. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 12/17/19 10:00:18 AM #143:	joe40001 posted... Regardless of the reasons, we don't get to dictate other's sexual preferences, and we really shouldn't want to. What about would-be rapists? Even if its just their fantasy, and they never act on it, surely someone who gleefully imagines raping people could do with some therapy, no? --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:931704213] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Regardless of the reasons, we don't get to dictate other's sexual preferences, and we really shouldn't want to.</quote> What about would-be rapists? Even if its just their fantasy, and they never act on it, surely someone who gleefully imagines raping people could do with some therapy, no? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
joe40001 12/17/19 10:20:50 AM #144:	Shablagoo posted... What about would-be rapists? Even if its just their fantasy, and they never act on it, surely someone who gleefully imagines raping people could do with some therapy, no? Pretty wild strawman but I'll answer in good faith. They aren't "would-be" rapists if they never and will never act on their fantasies. If a person has thoughts I don't personally like, but never acts in a bad way. Then I don't get to tell them what to think, nor should I want to. "Could do with some therapy" is a different question. it is a question of "do I think such thoughts are not conductive to a healthy mind and thus they might be happier/healthier if they sought therapy"? Perhaps, but again that's not my place to say because it's not my life or my thoughts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like at least part of you wishes we had ways to punish people for thought crimes. --- "joe is attractive and quite the brilliant poster" - Seiichi Omori https://imgur.com/TheGsZ9 <cite>joe40001 posted [p:931704797] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Shablagoo posted... </cite> <quote>What about would-be rapists? Even if its just their fantasy, and they never act on it, surely someone who gleefully imagines raping people could do with some therapy, no?</quote> Pretty wild strawman but I'll answer in good faith. They aren't "would-be" rapists if they never and will never act on their fantasies. If a person has thoughts I don't personally like, but never acts in a bad way. Then I don't get to tell them what to think, nor should I want to. "Could do with some therapy" is a different question. it is a question of "do I think such thoughts are not conductive to a healthy mind and thus they might be happier/healthier if they sought therapy"? Perhaps, but again that's not my place to say because it's not my life or my thoughts. Correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like at least part of you wishes we had ways to punish people for thought crimes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gunplagirl 12/17/19 10:30:07 AM #145:	viewmaster_pi posted... I don't want kids, I just don't want to date people that have or had ever had a penis and testicles. Why that's some sort of crazy, profound, offensive notion here, I'll never understand. I'd love to see what sort of backwards logic you'd use to justify this, but I'd also like to know the last time a woman gave you the time of day. --- https://i.imgtc.ws/x2KBsjI.png tfw no big tiddy goth vampire gf who lactates blood - viewmaster_pi <cite>gunplagirl posted [p:931705104] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>I don't want kids, I just don't want to date people that have or had ever had a penis and testicles. Why that's some sort of crazy, profound, offensive notion here, I'll never understand.</quote> I'd love to see what sort of backwards logic you'd use to justify this, but I'd also like to know the last time a woman gave you the time of day. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 12/17/19 10:56:01 AM #146:	gunplagirl posted... I'd love to see what sort of backwards logic you'd use to justify this To justify what? Not wanting to date people born with male sex organs? What needs to be justified? What are you owed? --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:931705960] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>gunplagirl posted... </cite> <quote>I'd love to see what sort of backwards logic you'd use to justify this</quote>To justify what? Not wanting to date people born with male sex organs? What needs to be justified? What are you owed? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/17/19 11:15:34 AM #147:	hockeybub89 posted... Trans people are "scientifically" born trans. Now can we please just ask if someone's trans if we need to know? It makes more sense than hoping someone read your mind. Shouldn't a cis woman understand just like a trans woman that men have preferences and that it isn't always obvious? Seems to me that, with trans people being such a tiny percentage of the population, it would be more efficient for them to reveal their status as trans, than for everyone to ask about it. Save a lot of trouble overall. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931706698] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>Trans people are "scientifically" born trans. Now can we please just ask if someone's trans if we need to know? It makes more sense than hoping someone read your mind. Shouldn't a cis woman understand just like a trans woman that men have preferences and that it isn't always obvious?</quote> Seems to me that, with trans people being such a tiny percentage of the population, it would be more efficient for them to reveal their status as trans, than for everyone to ask about it. Save a lot of trouble overall. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shablagoo 12/17/19 11:16:05 AM #148:	joe40001 posted... Correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like at least part of you wishes we had ways to punish people for thought crimes. Correct me if Im wrong, but it feels like at least part of you wishes we had ways to punish trans people for not wearing an I.D. badge that lets the world know theyre trans. I really didnt think saying dont date racists was so controversial that youd accuse me of wanting to police thoughts. --- "It was some post on the NFL board that got him." -AwesomeToTheMAX <cite>Shablagoo posted [p:931706714] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>joe40001 posted... </cite> <quote>Correct me if I'm wrong, but it feels like at least part of you wishes we had ways to punish people for thought crimes.</quote> Correct me if Im wrong, but it feels like at least part of you wishes we had ways to punish trans people for not wearing an I.D. badge that lets the world know theyre trans. I really didnt think saying dont date racists was so controversial that youd accuse me of wanting to police thoughts. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Esrac 12/17/19 11:19:20 AM #149:	viewmaster_pi posted... To justify what? Not wanting to date people born with male sex organs? What needs to be justified? What are you owed? I don't know about her, but there are some trans-activists who believe any sexual preference other than pansexual is immoral. Because having defined preferences regarding the genitals you are attracted to makes you homophobic or transphobic. <cite>Esrac posted [p:931706829] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>viewmaster_pi posted... </cite> <quote>To justify what? Not wanting to date people born with male sex organs? What needs to be justified? What are you owed?</quote> I don't know about her, but there are some trans-activists who believe any sexual preference other than pansexual is immoral. Because having defined preferences regarding the genitals you are attracted to makes you homophobic or transphobic. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 12/17/19 11:21:06 AM #150:	Esrac posted... Seems to me that, with trans people being such a tiny percentage of the population, it would be more efficient for them to reveal their status as trans, than for everyone to ask about it. Save a lot of trouble overall. Well also because trans people are the ones with the... how do I put this- unconventional gender expression? I shouldn't be obligated to do anything, because with cis people, what you see is what you get. --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:931706895] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>Seems to me that, with trans people being such a tiny percentage of the population, it would be more efficient for them to reveal their status as trans, than for everyone to ask about it. Save a lot of trouble overall.</quote>Well also because trans people are the ones with the... how do I put this- unconventional gender expression? I shouldn't be obligated to do anything, because with cis people, what you see is what you get. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
viewmaster_pi 12/17/19 11:22:03 AM #151:	Esrac posted... I don't know about her, but there are some trans-activists who believe any sexual preference other than pansexual is immoral. Because having defined preferences regarding the genitals you are attracted to makes you homophobic or transphobic. That is very obviously how people operate here, and they'll attack you for it. --- - Sent from my DynaTAC 8000X <cite>viewmaster_pi posted [p:931706931] in In dating ... [t:78254452]...</cite> <quote>Esrac posted... </cite> <quote>I don't know about her, but there are some trans-activists who believe any sexual preference other than pansexual is immoral. Because having defined preferences regarding the genitals you are attracted to makes you homophobic or transphobic.</quote>That is very obviously how people operate here, and they'll attack you for it. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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