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BakonBitz
12/14/19 2:36:58 AM
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He's not a bad director as seen with Knives Out, but that said, if he were given reigns to his own SW trilogy without having to mess with someone else's...would you be willing to try it out? I feel if he had his own trilogy to work with it'd work out fine. He was just hellbent on ruining everything Abrams had set up which is why TLJ turned out the way it did.

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Wewillrocku
12/14/19 2:37:52 AM
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no.

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RebelElite791
12/14/19 2:38:02 AM
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He is getting his own trilogy and TLJ was great

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evil_zombie11
12/14/19 2:44:27 AM
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Trash and more trash tbh

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ThePrinceFish
12/14/19 2:46:32 AM
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No. It's his fault that I'm not even giving JJ's "we're sorry" movie a chance.

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The_Doge
12/14/19 2:49:05 AM
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Wewillrocku posted...
no.


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SailorGoon
12/14/19 2:50:40 AM
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I really didn't like The Last Jedi at all, but I'd still watch it because fuck it. It's Star Wars. I kept watching em even after Attack of the Clones so I'll keep watching even if it is shit.

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ToadallyAwesome
12/14/19 3:25:43 AM
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Honestly the new Star Wars movies main problem is that no one thought to have a road map for the new trilogy.

Which is mind boggling In this day and age. Thats TLJs main issue is that it swerved so hard in a different direction that it was jarring. And didnt make sense from a story perspective.

Its not a bad movie or story on its own. Its just not good in the overall scheme of being a tent pole Star Wars movie.

It also suffers from an issue that there is no time jump between movies which every other Star Wars has had. That decompression is needed to tell an epic like Star Wars.

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ViewtifulJoe
12/14/19 3:42:42 AM
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"You thought I wouldn't rely on trying to be subversive again, but I did!"

No deal Rian, your name means "Don't waste your time with this" now.

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EzeDoesIt
12/14/19 3:45:01 AM
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Of course! Remember when they said yo mama in the Late Jedi? It made me L-O-L out loud!
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Polycosm
12/14/19 4:11:18 AM
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ToadallyAwesome posted...
Honestly the new Star Wars movies main problem is that no one thought to have a road map for the new trilogy.

...Thats TLJs main issue is that it swerved so hard in a different direction that it was jarring.

This pretty much sums up my thoughts about TLJ. It feels like Rian Johnson came in and smashed all of JJ's toys. There's very little cohesion and it leaves me with the impression that there was little to no collaboration.

Most of my concerns go away if Rian Johnson is left to plan his own self-contained series.

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Ricemills
12/14/19 4:30:19 AM
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if that trilogy didn't involve any established character or events from the main series, i might.

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UnholyMudcrab
12/14/19 4:31:09 AM
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Ricemills posted...
if that trilogy didn't involve any established character or events from the main series, i might.

We all know that they aren't capable of doing this
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Shablagoo
12/14/19 4:33:07 AM
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EzeDoesIt posted...
Of course! Remember when they said yo mama in the Late Jedi? It made me L-O-L out loud!

lmbo

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Ricemills
12/14/19 4:35:30 AM
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UnholyMudcrab posted...
We all know that they aren't capable of doing this

im saying that if he want to destroy some toys because it was cool thing to do, he should do it with his own toys. not the toys that's been shared/passed between the kids.

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pfh1001
12/14/19 6:18:29 AM
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Wewillrocku posted...
no.
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iPhone_7
12/14/19 6:28:59 AM
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I dont believe hes going to actually make a trilogy. I bet theyre just letting the drama settle down to then publicly drop it.

Like are we seriously going to get 5 or 6 years where the only main Star Wars movies released are made by Rian Johnson and maybe an anthology film or two in between it all?

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KillerSlaw
12/14/19 6:30:37 AM
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Nah, but it's more just cause I don't care enough about Star Wars to see any movies in the theater.

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wackyteen
12/14/19 6:31:32 AM
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He ain't getting no trilogy.

He probably won't even get a stand alone film

Or an episode of a TV series

He's probably banned from all Disney property for eternity (this one is a bit of an /s)

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Sphyx
12/14/19 6:34:36 AM
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Sure.

Just because i didn't care for the direction he took SW in, doesn't mean i'm going to assume he can't make anything i might like.

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InfinityMonster
12/14/19 6:44:07 AM
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I'd check it, but it still doesn't seem like he's getting it. Disney hasn't said shit about it since before TLJ, and things have changed a lot since. In that time, they announced a whole different trilogy and then fucking announced that the showrunners left. While mentioning nothing about RJ's stuff. They also announced Kevin Feige's movie, which is probably the next SW movie.

Even when D&D were there, the calendar seemed way too full till 2027 to position his trilogy. At best, he gets a movie or series on Disney+. Latest rumors have been that they're waiting till the reception of TRoS before outright canceling his stuff.

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corneliusmagus
12/14/19 6:47:54 AM
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The Last Jedi is the best Star Wars film imo and he's a solid director, of course I would. People really need to get the fuck over it.
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Srk700
12/14/19 6:52:42 AM
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Given that Knives Out was decent I'd give it a chance if he had his own cast of characters to work with and it was separate from the main series. .
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Shablagoo
12/14/19 6:53:31 AM
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wackyteen posted...
He ain't getting no trilogy.

He probably won't even get a stand alone film

Or an episode of a TV series

He's probably banned from all Disney property for eternity (this one is a bit of an /s)

Funnily enough he actually directed one of the best episodes of one of the best TV series of all time (Breaking Bad).


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iPhone_7
12/14/19 6:55:36 AM
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I dont bother with those damn rumors from hack sites.

I just got a gut feeling that theyre letting time pass to then quietly shelve his trilogy, because of the raging disgruntled fanboys on the internet. I dont believe its even actually in development right now.

It would have just been worse PR to fire him before the end of the trilogy.

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SuperVegito2487
12/14/19 7:17:08 AM
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Maybe? Idk.. im not all that picky in regards to Story Telling... not after i had to turn to Fanfiction to get my reading fix...

Not that i was all that picky before hand but...

I liked TLJ on first viewing, so id probably be fine with watching such a trilogy.

Cant say i agree with the stuff hes said about star wars fans though.

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Taharqa_
12/14/19 7:17:50 AM
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Hell no, I hated TLJ. That would be like giving a Game of Thrones spinoff to D&D after the colossal fuckup of season 8.

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InfinityMonster
12/14/19 7:18:39 AM
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iPhone_7 posted...
I dont bother with those damn rumors from hack sites.

I just got a gut feeling that theyre letting time pass to then quietly shelve his trilogy, because of the raging disgruntled fanboys on the internet. I dont believe its even actually in development right now.

It would have just been worse PR to fire him before the end of the trilogy.
Some rumors have solid backings. The same people reporting that it will be canceled after TRoS, correctly said D&D were working on a trilogy, that the mysterious dates in Disney's calendar were theirs and Avatar's, which Disney confirmed a week later, and that D&D were withdrawing from the project and that RJ had been a consultant on it.

If anything, the lack of a single mention by Disney on this trilogy in over 2 years is enough confirmation. If RJ's thing was real, they wouldn't have given hard confirmation on SW movie dates up to 2026 from someone totally else, while the CEO simultaneously saying that the two movies in a short timeframe doesn't work.

Nonetheless, I think Iger over anybody else realizes that you have to be careful with SW fanboys and there's little reason to go overboard. Look at the reception with The Mandalorian. Fanboys love it. It's probably the best thing since RotJ.

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Delta_Force
12/14/19 7:25:28 AM
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I wouldn't see in theaters.
I'd wait for the obligatory "hate reviews" and THEN "hate watch" it online for like a $2 rental.


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creativerealms
12/14/19 8:08:30 AM
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Yes. The biggest problem with Last Jedi was how he took every piece of set up from The Force awakened and subverted it for the sake of subverting expectations. He threw everything away for the sake of spicingbthings up and being unexpected and it backfired.

Yet his own trilogy where he gets to set things up and do what he wants? Well then he can't ruin what's already there.

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corneliusmagus
12/14/19 8:22:32 AM
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creativerealms posted...
The biggest problem with Last Jedi was how he took every piece of set up from The Force awakened and subverted it for the sake of subverting expectations. He threw everything away for the sake of spicingbthings up and being unexpected and it backfired.
I love it and I genuinely don't see how he did this, barely if at all. I see it repeated time after time as fact but all it makes me think is that a lot of Star Wars fans have a poor understanding of films, storytelling and character development. Unless you just mean that because The Force Awakens lazily copied A New Hope people were expecting a new take on Empire Strikes Back and didn't get that.
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KyoryuCyan
12/14/19 8:43:09 AM
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Absolutely fucking not

The man has absolutely fucking failed at making a single GOOD Star Wars movie, let alone three.

If we gave him one, why not give everyone else a Trilogy? Get D&D Back to make thiers. Hand one off to Micheal Bay and M Night Shamylan! Give one to Tommy Wiseau so he can show Rian how it's done!

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Grindcorp9000
12/14/19 8:58:18 AM
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Fuck no.

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AlisLandale
12/14/19 8:59:36 AM
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KyoryuCyan posted...
Absolutely fucking not

The man has absolutely fucking failed at making a single GOOD Star Wars movie, let alone three.

If we gave him one, why not give everyone else a Trilogy? Get D&D Back to make thiers. Hand one off to Micheal Bay and M Night Shamylan! Give one to Tommy Wiseau so he can show Rian how it's done!

you joke, but I would watch a Tommy Wiseau Star Wars movie on opening day and then once a week every week for the remainder of its theatrical run.


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Malfunction
12/14/19 9:01:28 AM
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A full johnson trilogy would be extremely good and probably be the best sw trilogy by default
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VTBM
12/14/19 9:03:05 AM
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Yes, because there will be nothing to mess up as it will be his story from the begin- actually, he probably could fuck it up. Nevermind.

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Malfunction
12/14/19 9:04:19 AM
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corneliusmagus posted...
Unless you just mean that because The Force Awakens lazily copied A New Hope people were expecting a new take on Empire Strikes Back and didn't get that.
Sw nerds just want endless mystery boxes to chew over even if they never go anywhere
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RebelElite791
12/14/19 9:23:31 AM
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InfinityMonster posted...
I'd check it, but it still doesn't seem like he's getting it. Disney hasn't said shit about it since before TLJ, and things have changed a lot since. In that time, they announced a whole different trilogy and then fucking announced that the showrunners left. While mentioning nothing about RJ's stuff. They also announced Kevin Feige's movie, which is probably the next SW movie.

Even when D&D were there, the calendar seemed way too full till 2027 to position his trilogy. At best, he gets a movie or series on Disney+. Latest rumors have been that they're waiting till the reception of TRoS before outright canceling his stuff.
They absolutely have talked about it since TLJ. Talking out your ass about things you dont know is a bad look

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Southernfatman
12/14/19 9:25:44 AM
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I'd rather not watch movies done by a guy who enjoys trolling half of his audience, but I think I'd still give it a chance, maybe,

corneliusmagus posted...
see it repeated time after time as fact but all it makes me think is that a lot of Star Wars fans have a poor understanding of films, storytelling and character development.

*Jerk off motion*

Yeah, some nerds got too mad at TLJ, but to say people who don't like it don't understand film is just silly.

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EvenSpoonier
12/14/19 10:04:05 AM
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Absolutely I would. TLJ was awesome (the casino scene notwithstanding). I want more of that. I want LOTS more of that.

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iToro86
12/14/19 10:19:49 AM
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Yes.

The biggest problem with Rian Johnson is him and JJ Abrams had two completely different visions. JJ set his movie up so well for a sequel but Rian completely scrapped his draft and made the dry, stretched out and overall bland movie in TLJ.

Although TLJ was a disappointment, I think Johnson is at least competent enough to make a decent original trilogy. Give him the time to write out a script without anyone else's input and I'll surely give it a chance.

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The Trent
12/14/19 10:21:09 AM
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i'm not going to pretend like i'm not going to go see star wars movies even when they suck
it's like 15 bucks
whatever
i'll see his shitty star wars movies and get on with my life

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Skye Reynolds
12/14/19 10:22:57 AM
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Disney knows fans will watch dogshit so long as it bears the Star Wars brand.

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The Trent
12/14/19 10:26:22 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Disney knows fans will watch dogshit so long as it bears the Star Wars brand.

i will

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OrdonGoatCheese
12/14/19 11:15:24 AM
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I dunno. Maybe not. I didn't hate The Last Jedi when I saw it in theaters, but I've had no desire to watch it again.

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IShall_Run_Amok
12/14/19 11:30:48 AM
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Yes.

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Barber102
12/14/19 12:03:17 PM
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Absolutely not.

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Shablagoo
12/14/19 12:05:33 PM
#48:


The Trent posted...
i'm not going to pretend like i'm not going to go see star wars movies even when they suck
it's like 15 bucks
whatever
i'll see his shitty star wars movies and get on with my life

At the end of the day this is what even the people ITT saying no would do lol

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dmaster342
12/14/19 12:11:07 PM
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I mean, I'd watch it but I'd much rather him do a TV series on Disney+ or direct an episode of an existing show there. I don't think Star Wars movies are a good fit for him whether he does an original movie or not.

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XXmiznatorXX
12/14/19 12:23:44 PM
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No. Hes not a good director and writer and frankly, his attitude sucks. He treats fans like garbage and goes on tv admitting he wont accept valid criticism.
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