Current Events > Conservatism and Nationalism is rising worldwide.

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How does this bode for the 2020s?

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Not well at all.

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My question for everyone: Why is it on the rise exactly? What is it a response to?

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LethalAffinity posted...

My question for everyone: Why is it on the rise exactly? What is it a response to?

A lot of things, but there are a lot of people who are afraid of the future. Easy access to information has made them aware of a world that is mostly not like where they live, and it's intimidating.

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British people finally woke up.

LethalAffinity posted...

My question for everyone: Why is it on the rise exactly? What is it a response to?

"Fake news" is easy to spread and, or news that plays to people's fears and stokes their suspicions of folk. It makes it incredibly easy to blame anyone but the actual source of their issues.

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LethalAffinity posted...

My question for everyone: Why is it on the rise exactly? What is it a response to?

Pc culture is obviously the answer.

The pc liberals these days remind me of the religious right when i was growing up in the 90s and early 2000s. The vast majority of people dont want to hear that bullshit, regardless what end of the spectrum you're on.

But that's just the way it is. Politics is a pendulum. It swings back and forth.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Pc culture is obviously the answer.

The pc liberals these days remind me of the religious right when i was growing up in the 90s and early 2000s. The vast majority of people dont want to hear that bullshit, regardless what end of the spectrum you're on.

But that's just the way it is. Politics is a pendulum. It swings back and forth.

You're kinda right, but in the same way that Ralph Wiggums might be right. You said a thing that can be technically correct, but the logic isn't there.

There have always been xenophobic and bigoted groups among us. They're reacting hard to how the world is changing against that tribalism.

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Things always get worse when you let morons run things. That is the future we decided on, so its what we'll get.

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Pc culture is obviously the answer.

The pc liberals these days remind me of the religious right when i was growing up in the 90s and early 2000s. The vast majority of people dont want to hear that bullshit, regardless what end of the spectrum you're on.

But that's just the way it is. Politics is a pendulum. It swings back and forth.

Haha fuck right off

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Guide posted...

You're kinda right, but in the same way that Ralph Wiggums might be right. You said a thing that can be technically correct, but the logic isn't there.

There have always been xenophobic and bigoted groups among us. They're reacting hard to how the world is changing against that tribalism.

I didnt say there aren't I'll intentioned opportunists in the wings waiting to push an agenda. But those people dont really explain the sway of the opinion of most people.

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RebelElite791 posted...

Haha fuck right off

Exhibit A

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Conservatism is the new counter culture despite liberalFAQ's making you think otherwise.

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evil_zombie11 posted...

Conservatism is the new counter culture despite liberalFAQ's making you think otherwise.

Honestly starting to agree with this.

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LethalAffinity posted...

Honestly starting to agree with this.

Every generation tends to rebel against the previous one. Now, it's all the hippies' children taking the reigns.

Socialism and anti-authoritarianism is also starting to crop up, but are being stomped out by capitalist and authoritarian interests that actually hold power

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evil_zombie11 posted...

Conservatism is the new counter culture despite liberalFAQ's making you think otherwise.

This isn't some big surprise. It's a weird space, where the the very old and very young are in some sort of agreement, but yes, kids will rail against any establishment, and we've established that minorities deserve the same rights.

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A culture that has been massively engrained in our media, laws and is the driving force of governance in large swaths of the country cannot be counter culture. Counter culture does not mean people think Im an aggravating piece of shit because I ____, it is something subversive in a way you cannot be when you are in charge of everything

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Guide posted...

It's a weird space, where the the very old and very young are in some sort of agreement

lol yeah it's really weird. The boomers and zoomers are by far the most conservative demographic right now in the west. Gen X and Millennials are the most liberal

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Questionmarktarius posted...

Every generation tends to rebel against the previous one. Now, it's all the hippies' children taking the reigns.

.....you're running about 20-30 years behind my dude

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ultimate reaver posted...

A culture that has been massively engrained in our media, laws and is the driving force of governance in large swaths of the country cannot be counter culture. Counter culture does not mean people think Im an aggravating piece of shit because I ____, it is something subversive in a way you cannot be when you are in charge of everything

The perception is enough to be considered the culture to be counter to. Liberals aren't the old white men with money, but they have established a perception that rights for minorities are a big deal, even when the government is really shit at enforcing that.

Hell, you have lesser-minded people on this site who earnestly believe straight white men, as a group, have it the worst. That's how powerful perception is, however misguided.

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LethalAffinity posted...

lol yeah it's really weird. The boomers and zoomers are by far the most conservative demographic right now in the west. Gen X and Millennials are the most liberal

Hopefully trying to force things on the kids of today is backfiring.

Guide posted...

This isn't some big surprise. It's a weird space, where the the very old and very young are in some sort of agreement, but yes, kids will rail against any establishment, and we've established that minorities deserve the same rights.

I don't know why people keep claiming the new generation are conservative. Heck, they think millennials aren't doing enough most of the time.

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Purely posted...

Hopefully trying to force things on the kids of today is backfiring.

Nowadays most young kids grow into conservatives from a combination of memes and the histrionics of SJWs

Those Ben Shapiro logic meme videos are popular with them

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LethalAffinity posted...

lol yeah it's really weird. The boomers and zoomers are by far the most conservative demographic right now in the west. Gen X and Millennials are the most liberal

I think a lot of older millinials have either swung or are swinging to the right of center. A trend I think will continue as more and more of them start to make more money

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Liberals being so aggressively PC is turning people off so they don't go for it imo.

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it's like so many narratives struggling for dominance. all of them trying to represent their bubble.
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Lol @ Zoomers being painted as conservative. Who exactly are the most famous Zoomers again?

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Funkydog posted...

I don't know why people keep claiming the new generation are conservative. Heck, they think millennials aren't doing enough most of the time.

There are plenty Thunbergs, but there's a larger, more volatile, more openly bigoted population in there, too. Just absolute constant dogwhistles nowadays.

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Guide posted...

The perception is enough to be considered the culture to be counter to. Liberals aren't the old white men with money, but they have established a perception that rights for minorities are a big deal, even when the government is really shit at enforcing that.

Hell, you have lesser-minded people on this site who earnestly believe straight white men, as a group, have it the worst. That's how powerful perception is, however misguided.

Online perception of culture is massively distorted when compared to the vast majority and in almost every situation in which you hold it you are getting a very small portion of opinions out of a much larger and engrained whole where conservative values are the status quo and anything counter to them will always be considered subversive and dangerous.

people getting mad about women in video games on 4chan or people yelling about getting banned on twitter by the sjws will always undoubtably be a small, weak, and insignificant voice. The fact is is that while conservatives think theyre being cool and edgy they have completely failed to see they have been winning for decades. We have zero support for any sort of meaningful labor movement in this country and have not for a long time, we still implicitly trust corporations and the police, and our politics are so dominated by conservatism that calling anyone left of republican a socialist underminer is still a legitimate tactic

if these people saw British punk bands shit talking thatcher their logic would have lead them to believe she was some kind of badass rebel

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Guide posted...

There are plenty Thunbergs, but there's a larger, more volatile, more openly bigoted population in there, too. Just absolute constant dogwhistles nowadays.

They are an absolute minority of the younger generation though. The younger generation is heavily not conservative no matter how loud current conservatives claim otherwise.

Yes you get trolls and racists shouting, but Gen Z is by far the most progressive one and even the conservative ones stand by many of their progressive stances.

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I won't deny they're a minority, but it's a significant minority. Kids a decade ago were not making a game of sig heils in school photos, or, y'know, shooting up schools every week.

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Guide posted...

I won't deny they're a minority, but it's a significant minority. Kids a decade ago were not making a game of sig heils in school photos, or, y'know, shooting up schools every week.

Yes they were.

Or at least you had some doing racist/edgy shit for laughs, or because they were genuinely deplorable.

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Good

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LethalAffinity posted...

My question for everyone: Why is it on the rise exactly? What is it a response to?

it's a response to
RebelElite791 posted...

Haha fuck right off

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Funkydog posted...

Yes they were.

Or at least you had some doing racist/edgy shit for laughs, or because they were genuinely deplorable.

Not nearly to the extend of this decade. Nearly triple the shootings compared to last decade, and shit that was kept to the internet made leaked out into real life when it came to bigotry.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/high-school-prom-nazi-salute/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States#

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It's certainly partly fueled by left leaning fringe views becoming more mainstream through social media and conservatives capitalizing on it.

the international social engineering process has become too rapid, so naturally there's going to be an objection by those who don't stand to benefit from it or who are fed up with the issues emerging as fault cracks appear in places

it's a temporary setback though, and will likely be absorbed by the machine as the march forward continues

when the financial system implodes again and is not so easily or quickly fixed, that's when things will get interesting in a very unpleasant way

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Its basically white peoples last mad, desperate grab for power

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LethalAffinity posted...

My question for everyone: Why is it on the rise exactly? What is it a response to?

Globalisation hasn't worked out for most people
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konokonohamaru posted...

Globalisation hasn't worked out for most people

Lol the no more borders kids hate to see it

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MrToothHasYou posted...

Its basically white peoples last mad, desperate grab for power

eh, i'd argue it's not racial; rather, an increasingly comprehensive bottom-up pushback against the economic and societal manifestations of global neoliberalism

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TheMikh posted...

the international social engineering process has become too rapid, so naturally there's going to be an objection by those who don't stand to benefit from it or who are fed up with the issues emerging as fault cracks appear in places

it's a temporary setback though, and will likely be absorbed by the machine as the march forward continues

when the financial system implodes again and is not so easily or quickly fixed, that's when things will get interesting in a very unpleasant way

or everything burns as the earth turn into unliveable wasteland

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Solid Snake07 posted...

Pc culture is obviously the answer.

The pc liberals these days remind me of the religious right when i was growing up in the 90s and early 2000s. The vast majority of people dont want to hear that bullshit, regardless what end of the spectrum you're on.

But that's just the way it is. Politics is a pendulum. It swings back and forth.

I believe this to be the case as well. Conservatism may be on the rise now, but liberalism will make a strong comeback when the pendulum swings the other way around.

apolloooo posted...

or everything burns as the earth turn into unliveable wasteland

if only the governments of the world didn't partake in so much ecologically destructive debt-fueled consumption

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Not enough recognition for burning @RebelElite791 's ass so bad he ran away from this topic like I posted his nudes tbh

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pc culture is but a means to an end

it might be thorn in the side for some, but what it is used to facilitate institutionally, socially, or commercially is perhaps a more worthwhile investigation

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konokonohamaru posted...

Globalisation hasn't worked out for most people

this is so wrong it hurts

BadderHare posted...

this is so wrong it hurts

it's worked out quite well economically aside from widespread diminishing livelihood for many workers in developed countries and (dare i say) exploitation of the most vulnerable workers in developing countries which populists in both classes of countries have emerged on behalf of, but politically and culturally i suppose it leaves much to be desired worldwide

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