Current Events > I don't have sympathy for people who die of drug overdoses, is that bad?

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I mean, for the most part, everyone knows the dangers of drugs yet they want to do them anyways.

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Yes it's awful

you should be utterly ashamed of yourself
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Yes it's awful

you should be utterly ashamed of yourself

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pretty ignorant and closed minded view to have there buddy

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We learn in the fifth grade that drugs are bad, no excuses at this point

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"they want to"

uh huh, sure bud.

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You probably should consider, for a moment, what disadvantages or misfortunes the person went through to have ended up a drug user in the first place. They might have started experimenting with drugs to escape the trauma of childhood abuse, or to cope with someone's death, for a simple example.

If you still don't understand why it could have happened, well then you should be grateful for your position of privilege.

No
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If you never know or mess with anyone that does, nah. That's not an bad

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ArchiePeck posted...

You probably should consider, for a moment, what disadvantages or misfortunes the person went through to have ended up a drug user in the first place. They might have started experimenting with drugs to escape the trauma of childhood abuse, or to cope with someone's death, for a simple example.

If you still don't understand why it could have happened, well then you should be grateful for your position of privilege.

I know people who've died from drug overdoses. I'm not in a position of privilege. I just know the consequences of it, as does most if not all people.


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A disappointing view, but one many have and refuse to change from.
Many become trapped in the life of addiction and simply cannot help themselves at that point, and when the help they are getting it as a shitty as it usually is - one misstep (which IS going to happen) and they get kicked out, constantly being treated like trash and often being cut off from any support then it sets them down a path that is incredibly hard to recover from.

When it is already hard enough to recover even if you have all the best support in the world, demonising and feeling nothing for those suffering is only adding to the already awful problem.

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Im guessing TC is under the age of 25 and hasnt developed a good balance of empathy for others yet

Yeah its bad

because you should look at it more as a health hazard than criminal activity

people often lump it together because drug addiction often leads to use of violence(sellers) or theft (addicts)

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alimajor posted...

Im guessing TC is under the age of 25 and hasnt developed a good balance of empathy for others yet

I find it's more older people who are uncaring for overdoses and found millenials and younger being much more sympathetic in general.

But really, not sure one's age necessarily plays much part in it. You either have empathy for them or not.

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Pretty much right there with you TC, especially when theyre doing big time illegal stuff and doing stuff that were taught at 5 years old can kill us.

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gna647 posted...

because you should look at it more as a health hazard than criminal activity

This is a good way to describe it. It's an addiction that some people just cannot control.

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no opinion

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alimajor posted...

Im guessing TC is under the age of 25 and hasnt developed a good balance of empathy for others yet

Well you're wrong

I have empathy for others but they put themselves in that situation no matter what they took it for.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Pretty much right there with you TC, especially when theyre doing big time illegal stuff and doing stuff that were taught at 5 years old can kill us.

That's my thing. We're taught from elementary school how terrible heroin is and to grow up and do it is irresponsible

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I came very close to having an opiate overdose. I turned to drugs as a way of coping with being physically, mentally and sexually abused by an ex partner.

Fuck you.

There are consequences. A lot of people seem to forget that.

I've known plenty of victims of child abuse IRL who didn't need drugs to cope with it. Same thing with empoverished people, chronic illness sufferers and other cases.

The whole idea that ANYONE no matter what the problem they're facing shouldn't be judged for making shitty decisions is wrong.

Now don't get me wrong. I enjoy some recreational drugs every now and then, but if I OD on any of them, That shit's on me and I deserve no sympathy from any stranger. At least my own convictions tell me so and I'm in peace with that.

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corneliusmagus posted...

I came very close to having an opiate overdose. I turned to drugs as a way of coping with being physically, mentally and sexually abused by an ex partner.

Fuck you.

You seem mad, have you tried therapy?

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Pretty much right there with you TC, especially when theyre doing big time illegal stuff and doing stuff that were taught at 5 years old can kill us.

We werent taught that fentanyl can kill us at 5 years old.

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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

You seem mad, have you tried therapy?

Or one of the million other things that cant kill someone.

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Shablagoo posted...

We werent taught that fentanyl can kill us at 5 years old.

And this is why you shouldnt speak unless spoken to. Thats awesome buddy but I wasnt talking about that.

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wait until it affects a loved one and you end up possibly losing that person.

addiction does not discriminate when it chooses who to take a hold of. it can happen to anyone.

i personally overcame an addiction to heroin a few years ago. try not to be so closed minded. people deserve empathy, they deserve help, and they deserve a second chance.

dont be one of those people who refuses to give narcan to someone overdosing because they shouldve known better

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SSJCAT posted...

i personally overcame an addiction to heroin a few years ago

Thats awesome, congrats....

SSJCAT posted...

they shouldve known better

But like.....did you know what heroin was when you first started?

Its tough to say hey man I feel bad when literally the #1 main thing about all these things is that it can and will kill you.

Just blows my mind.

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Is this topic based on juice WRLDs death? Anyway...
I dont . The only reason I dont say that Idrc about his death is because my mom feels so sympathetic and she would yell at me.

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SSJCAT posted...

i personally overcame an addiction to heroin a few years ago.

So you didn't know the dangers of heroin before finding a vein to stick a needle in?

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of course i knew the dangers. it was an extremely low point in my life, i had been prescribed pain medicine for something that i started to abuse, when those ran out i started buying pills off the street, and when those got too expensive i found out heroin was basically the same thing and was way cheaper. i wasnt thinking oh gee this is gonna be really dangerous i was thinking fuck it who cares

people need help to be pulled out of that. people do stupid and bad things. it doesnt mean theyre bad people. they deserve help.

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SSJCAT posted...

i wasnt thinking oh gee this is gonna be really dangerous i was thinking fuck it who cares

And thats kinda when the empathy and sympathy and any good thy is thrown out the window. Honestly I really am glad you overcame it but I just cant throw a bunch of fake care when the situation is like that. Sorry you had pain issues but once you say Im going to do this thing that can/will kill me.....its all on you taking that risk.

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SSJCAT posted...

of course i knew the dangers. it was an extremely low point in my life, i had been prescribed pain medicine for something that i started to abuse, when those ran out i started buying pills off the street, and when those got too expensive i found out heroin was basically the same thing and was way cheaper. i wasnt thinking oh gee this is gonna be really dangerous i was thinking fuck it who cares

people need help to be pulled out of that. people do stupid and bad things. it doesnt mean theyre bad people. they deserve help.

So you knew it was bad yet did it anyways and im supposed to feel sympathy for you?

Im not saying they're bad people, and I know they need help, I just dont feel sympathy if they die because they knew the dangers.

Same way I don't feel sympathy for drunk drivers who kill themselves.

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People are in shitty places in their lives, when you're that depressed you don't really think well or you find a way to escape your troubles. Some drugs are gateway drugs that lead to more powerful dangerous stuff.

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"What is addiction"

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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

So you knew it was bad yet did it anyways and im supposed to feel sympathy for you?

When society/government/health care all but abandons them and doesn't help people struggling is it so easy to just shrug your shoulders and blame them for seeking relief from whatever is making them suffer?

When people are in great pain or depressed they are rarely thinking in a logical mind and often just want relief from their suffering that it overrides logical thinking and makes a danger seem a risk that is alright to take if it means they can live a normal life.

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alimajor posted...

Im guessing TC is under the age of 25 and hasnt developed a good balance of empathy for others yet

I almost want to say the people feeling sorry for these people are either the underage ones or arent really all that lively in the social world. Or have been addicted.

You see a few people die from this stuff, and then start seeing more and it just kinda turns into its 100% their fault and sorry it had to happen like that.


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SSJCAT posted...

wait until it affects a loved one and you end up possibly losing that person.

addiction does not discriminate when it chooses who to take a hold of. it can happen to anyone.

i personally overcame an addiction to heroin a few years ago. try not to be so closed minded. people deserve empathy, they deserve help, and they deserve a second chance.

dont be one of those people who refuses to give narcan to someone overdosing because they shouldve known better

Can happen to anyone? Lmao. Thats fucking bullshit and I say that as someone whos been through addiction. Some people no matter how low they get never resort to drugs. Ive met many.

Also to another poster further back most druggies ive known my self included didnt have some tragic backstory as to why they got into them in thr first place. Not saying it doesnt happen but it's far from thr major reason people end up addicted to drugs.

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It literally doesnt take any effort to have sympathy for people who take potentially deleterious mind-altering substances to ease the pain of a miserable life.

Literally no effort lmao. And yet yall trying to force your fart opinions down our throats like youre so fucking smart and awesome for looking down on people struggling with drug addiction.

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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Same way I don't feel sympathy for drunk drivers who kill themselves.

Wait....thats a good point actually. Like really good.

Im sure some of them are depressed or in pain looking for a cheap fix.

Damn dude that was a great thing to bring up. I know its not but almost in a way these people feeling bad for the drug overdosing also feel bad for the drunk drivers that kill themselves or others.

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Big difference is drunk driving puts others lives at risk.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Wait....thats a good point actually. Like really good.

Im sure some of them are depressed or in pain looking for a cheap fix.

Damn dude that was a great thing to bring up. I know its not but almost in a way these people feeling bad for the drug overdosing also feel bad for the drunk drivers that kill themselves or others.

Drunk drivers are scum because they put others at risk and kill them. Drug addicts who go onto hurt others deserve equal scorn, but usually they just end up hurting themselves and not driving a several tonne vehicle while impaired.

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Shablagoo posted...

Big difference is drunk driving puts others lives at risk.

and theyre not always addicts either. could just be an asshole who thinks they can handle it.

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EverDownward posted...

"they want to"

uh huh, sure bud.

Does a significant portion of ODs happen to people who got addicted by involuntary use? As in, somebody tied them down and injected them?

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Shablagoo posted...

Big difference is drunk driving puts others lives at risk.

So these people doing heroin, pills, liquids.....they are just chilling in their bedroom all alone?

I have people on my Snapchat on a daily basis drinking syrup and then going on with their lives. Its cute what you think sometimes.

Ive seen dudes grab every gun they have and bunker down in their living room because the shit they were on told them people were outside about to break in.

you are delusional as fuck if you dont think these people are putting others in harm

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SSJCAT posted...

and theyre not always addicts either. could just be an asshole who thinks they can handle it.

Interesting you wouldnt say that about people doing drugs.

You mentioned earlier you had overcome drugs right? Interesting. Maybe dont be so one sided.

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gatorsPENSbucs posted...

Interesting you wouldnt say that about people doing drugs.

You mentioned earlier you had overcome drugs right? Interesting. Maybe dont be so one sided.

there are certainly people who fit that bill but were talking about addiction not assholes

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Shablagoo posted...

It literally doesnt take any effort to have sympathy for people who take potentially deleterious mind-altering substances to ease the pain of a miserable life.

Literally no effort lmao. And yet yall trying to force your fart opinions down our throats like youre so fucking smart and awesome for looking down on people struggling with drug addiction.

I dont look down on them as ive been down that road myself. But i sure as hell dont feel sorry for them either. They took a risk and paid for it thats all there is to it.

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Gonna be honest.

TC changed my opinion. I thought the topic was lol worthy at first. But he makes sense.

No one who starts drugs is ignorant of the dangers. And considering that drugs are not publicly available, you might have to go out of the way to obtain it in the first place.

I think the drunk driving argument is relevant. Just because drug od doesnt affect others doesnt mean they both dont originate from the same circumstances. Drinking is actually probably more sympathetic because its so much easier to get and encouraged socially.

It sucks that people OD. It does. But One knows the consequences.

CE would gladly mock someone dying from taking a ludicrously dangerous selfie, but drug od apparently hits too close to home so you have to be sympathetic in that situation.

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This topic feel like something a 4chan or even Kiwifarms user would cook up to flaunt their apathy.

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Addiction is a disease

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