Current Events > YouTube confirms it has removed some Trump campaign ads

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Loud_Pipes
12/02/19 3:52:17 PM
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https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/02/tech/youtube-trump-ads/index.html

Regardless of how you feel about Trump, we should all be able to admit that this is not a good precedent.
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IShall_Run_Amok
12/02/19 3:53:42 PM
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Now remove literally every other ad.

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CableZL
12/02/19 3:54:05 PM
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TheGoldenEel
12/02/19 3:54:38 PM
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Its spelled president tc

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Loud_Pipes
12/02/19 3:54:41 PM
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CableZL posted...
All political ads should be removed, imo


I think that is what Twitter is doing and it isn't a bad idea.
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Solid Sonic
12/02/19 3:55:05 PM
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I want all politics scrubbed from Facebook and anyone defying the edict to be harshly dealt with.

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Zack_Attackv1
12/02/19 3:55:51 PM
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Doe
12/02/19 3:56:07 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Its spelled president tc

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DeadBankerDream
12/02/19 3:56:53 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
we should all be able to admit that this is not a good precedent.

This sounds like a stupid thing to say.
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Tmaster148
12/02/19 3:57:02 PM
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This is a result of a change of google policy towards ad targeting.

https://techcrunch.com/2019/11/20/google-limits-political-ad-targeting-and-all-demonstrably-false-claims/

Google has joined Twitter in revising its political ad rules ahead of what promises to be a brutal election season. But while the latter chose to ban political advertising altogether, Google is mainly limiting the ability to target political demographics, and promises to take action against demonstrably false claims.
In a blog post Wednesday afternoon, the search giant explained the new rules in a way that is clearly intended to be understood by a broad audience, not the ad-buying elite.
Given recent concerns and debates about political advertising, and the importance of shared trust in the democratic process, we want to improve voters confidence in the political ads they may see on our ad platforms, wrote Scott Spencer, VP of product management at Google Ads.
The primary change, he explained, will be the limitation of targeting terms that can be used for political advertising buys that appear in search, on display ads and on YouTube.
Google knows an immense amount about every one of its users, and as such can display ads to people who like certain products, are concerned with certain issues and so on. But starting in December, if the ad is political in nature, it will only be able to be targeted to age, general and postal code. (Notably, Twitter considers using ZIP codes microtargeting and will not allow it for political content.)
Thats nice, but it should be noted that such microtargeting may not be necessary for political issues, since advertisers can target search terms like South San Jose city council candidates and theyre off to the races. They just cant send ads to people because theyre a Democrat, a Republican, support marriage equality, handgun restrictions, etc but they can buy ads for the search terms gay marriage, assault rifle ban and other items. Thats kind of fundamental to search-based ad buys.



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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk
12/02/19 3:57:44 PM
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User Since: Oct 2012Karma: 42

another bought account
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Ethosian
12/02/19 4:00:04 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
User Since: Oct 2012Karma: 42

another bought account

It's supposedly Proudclod. The "I don't support Trump, but I'll defend him and take his side constantly" poster.
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Ps2Twilight
12/02/19 4:00:52 PM
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CableZL posted...
All political ads should be removed, imo


Gonna agree on this one, for YouTube anyway

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ScazarMeltex
12/02/19 4:01:55 PM
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Loud_Pipes posted...
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/02/tech/youtube-trump-ads/index.html

Regardless of how you feel about Trump, we should all be able to admit that this is not a good precedent.

Depends really. If the ad itself only contains factual provable information then I see no problem with it. But since the majority of ads are blatant lies and mudslinging i'm ok with those being removed.
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Tyranthraxus
12/02/19 4:02:28 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Its spelled president tc


https://i.imgur.com/bDnPcxV.gif

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s0nicfan
12/02/19 4:04:17 PM
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The company said it will no longer allow political ads to be targeted to specific groups of voters by ideological affiliation or by information found in public voter files.


Yea, let's see how well they enforce this.

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BakonBitz
12/02/19 4:06:24 PM
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Tbqh, if they're gonna remove ads of one particular candidate, they need to remove all political ads. I don't care that Trump is a bad president, there should be some kind of fairness.

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Tmaster148
12/02/19 4:07:15 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Tbqh, if they're gonna remove ads of one particular candidate, they need to remove all political ads. I don't care that Trump is a bad president, there should be some kind of fairness.


This is a change in policy about targeting ads and not about Trump in specific.

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s0nicfan
12/02/19 4:08:40 PM
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BakonBitz posted...
Tbqh, if they're gonna remove ads of one particular candidate, they need to remove all political ads. I don't care that Trump is a bad president, there should be some kind of fairness.


The real thing that's gonna bite them in the ass is that they don't disclose why:
In a report on Sunday, CBS's "60 Minutes" said it found more than 300 Trump campaign ads have been taken down from YouTube and Google this year. In an interview, YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki told CBS that more information about the ads can be found on Google's ad transparency website.

But Wojcicki's response underscores how little information Google provides to users about ads that have been removed. Ads that have been taken down, for example, cannot be viewed in the ad transparency tool due to what Google's website says are "technical limitations." Users can only see that a particular ad has been blocked not its content.

Google also does not disclose specifics about why an ad may have been taken down. In the transparency tool, blocked ads are covered up by a message explaining that the ads have violated Google's advertising policies, and links to a page outlining what Google allows and disallows on its platforms. But Google's tool does not explain what specific policy an offending ad has violated.



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BakonBitz
12/02/19 4:10:19 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
This is a change in policy about targeting ads and not about Trump in specific.
Ah.

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ZevLoveDOOM
12/02/19 4:14:39 PM
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remove all ads, political or not!

i have spoken!
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KamenRiderBlade
12/02/19 4:15:01 PM
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It's either "All or Nothing".

Get rid of All political ads, or don't do squat.

If you do anything in the middle, there will be evidence for bias.

Take your pick.
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malenz
12/02/19 4:16:39 PM
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could it be that youtube as a company doesnt want to be associated with the bad mojo of trump? nahh ITS AN ASSAULT ON OUR FREEEDUMBS
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Abiz_
12/02/19 4:19:26 PM
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Tmaster148 posted...
This is a change in policy about targeting ads and not about Trump in specific.
Trump and Bernie are the only ones hit by it though. So I don't believe it. You can't believe all the other possible candidates aren't targeting specific groups.
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Hanky_Bannister
12/02/19 4:20:35 PM
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CableZL posted...
All political ads should be removed, imo

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TheDreadedWave
12/02/19 4:20:46 PM
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Sounds like the free market at work

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malenz
12/02/19 4:23:27 PM
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TheDreadedWave posted...
Sounds like the free market at work

censorship!! reee!!!
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Bio1590
12/02/19 4:25:41 PM
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Ethosian posted...
RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
User Since: Oct 2012Karma: 42

another bought account

It's supposedly Proudclod. The "I don't support Trump, but I'll defend him and take his side constantly" poster.

It is him
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TheMikh
12/02/19 4:27:02 PM
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well that's certainly a troubling precedent
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Prestoff
12/02/19 4:28:29 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Its spelled president tc


Lol
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Machete
12/02/19 4:29:25 PM
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Good. Literally everything trump says or that is pro-trump should be super-censored.
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Ethosian
12/02/19 4:31:31 PM
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TheGoldenEel posted...
Its spelled president tc

Perfect
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RickyTheBAWSE
12/02/19 4:34:13 PM
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I don't mind propaganda being taken down as long as it's just the propaganda.
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Stewman_Magoo
12/02/19 4:35:12 PM
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This is fine. Trump does nothing but lie anyways.

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Ethosian
12/02/19 4:41:51 PM
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The Trump ads were probably just lies and mudslinging anyways. So nothing of value was lost
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King_Hutton
12/02/19 4:52:50 PM
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Oh no, YouTube removed an ad that was full of bullshit!
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-Unowninator-
12/02/19 5:55:08 PM
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Good. Now just get rid of the actual monster itself.
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hockeybub89
12/02/19 5:55:50 PM
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TheMikh
12/02/19 5:57:11 PM
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I find it unsettling that people are gleefully celebrating corporate censorship of political content they disagree with, but will inevitably scream bloody murder when "their side's" political content is censored by the same or similar corporate interests, as though they didn't enable the behavior.

I still remember when legitimate conservatives were shut down under the pretense of suppressing "Russian bots," only for legitimate BLM activists to also be shut down afterward under the same pretense.

This issue is and has been a double-edged sword, and we're going to hell in a handbasket for refusing to call it out when it benefits a political demographic we support or undermines another we oppose.
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Tyranthraxus
12/02/19 5:58:09 PM
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TheMikh posted...
I find it unsettling that people are gleefully celebrating corporate censorship of political content they disagree with, but will inevitably scream bloody murder when "their side's" political content is censored by the same or similar corporate interests, as though they didn't enable the behavior.
Yeah I'm so upset that theblaze won't allow DNC ads on them oh wait no I don't care.

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RickyTheBAWSE
12/02/19 6:06:01 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
TheMikh posted...
I find it unsettling that people are gleefully celebrating corporate censorship of political content they disagree with, but will inevitably scream bloody murder when "their side's" political content is censored by the same or similar corporate interests, as though they didn't enable the behavior.
Yeah I'm so upset that theblaze won't allow DNC ads on them oh wait no I don't care.


then what was the purpose of you quoting him?
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gunplagirl
12/02/19 6:09:06 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
I want all politics scrubbed from Facebook and anyone defying the edict to be harshly dealt with.


I'm LGBT. Literally everything I do is political so long as christofascism is a thing.

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mario2000
12/02/19 6:41:42 PM
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CableZL posted...
All ads should be removed, imo



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eston
12/02/19 6:45:44 PM
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Platforms being able to pick and choose which ads they want to air is a precedent that was set decades ago

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malenz
12/02/19 6:47:10 PM
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I dont remember being mad when I never saw obama campaign ads on any website ever for his re election.
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Barber102
12/02/19 6:54:13 PM
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Google is mainly limiting the ability to target political demographics, and promises to take action against demonstrably false claims.

His ad was probably taken down for being full of false claims, How he hoodwinked anyone let alone enough people to let him win an election is beyond me. How braindead does a person need to be to vote for a guy with that many bankruptcies. Trump steaks only lasted two months before being discontinued.
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Neoconkers
12/02/19 7:35:58 PM
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RdVEHfJqAvUPIbk posted...
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another bought account
doubt it, since I have the account tagged. I only really tagged people in like 2012-13. guess he's running low

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thronedfire2
12/02/19 7:49:43 PM
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well the ads probably all violated Youtube's offensive content policy too

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