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TheRock1525
12/17/19 7:22:45 AM
#301:


ZeroSignal620 posted...
Imagine a gauntlet match that started out so good ending in a non contest and Rollins gets the title shot next week because reasons.
Apparently Andrade will still get a title shot down the road.

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Strife2
12/17/19 7:25:36 AM
#302:


Bryan and Dave argued why the crowd didn't care about the gauntlet match (not the outcome, just the vibe). Brayn says it was the match style that killed the crowd (Rico and Carillo working body parts and rest holds). Dave says the booking has conditioned people not to care. People who are over can get away with doing less is more, bit still thinks the crowd sucked.

I mean, I'm more on Dave's side with this, since the crowd only gave a shit for Hardy's entrance (known commodity), but when you try to push guys who aren't over, to try and get them over, but the crowd just doesn't care, it is probably a little of everything.


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Steiner
12/17/19 7:43:25 AM
#303:


Strife2 posted...
Brayn says it was the match style that killed the crowd (Rico and Carillo working body parts and rest holds). Dave says the booking has conditioned people not to care. People who are over can get away with doing less is more, bit still thinks the crowd sucked.

did bryan have an out of body experience and call in from another fucking planet? how can you put wwe crowds not caring about the matches on the work in the ring? yeah they never deliver anything stellar in the ring anymore but the reason crowds don't care is 100% the booking

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Eddv
12/17/19 7:46:42 AM
#304:


Its mostly that everyone in the match was a jobber.

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Strife2
12/17/19 7:48:33 AM
#305:


Bryan believes the WWE style doesn't work for crowds anymore now that alternatives are more easily accessible.

"Anywhere else in the world, you'd get these guys over with the crowd doing high spot stuff all match til the finish."

I mean, I still enjoyed Tozawa and Carillo...so I dunno. The only thing that bugged me was Ricochet using similar comebacks each time and all three using the fake kick/enzugiri spot...but that's because they probably all use that as a hope spot. You'd only know it IN back to back matches like this.

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Eddv
12/17/19 9:19:30 AM
#306:


It is perhaps my hottest take that the reason the gauntlet caught on for Kofi is because the crowd was TRULY hungry for a Kofi win.

No one wanted any of these clowns to win.

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Tom Bombadil
12/17/19 9:23:49 AM
#307:


Steiner posted...
the reason crowds don't care is 100% the booking

I dunno if I'd go 100%. For me they need either good booking or good wrestling. Give me AEW's workrate and I can tolerate WWE's booking.

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Steiner
12/17/19 9:42:33 AM
#308:


Tom Bombadil posted...
I dunno if I'd go 100%. For me they need either good booking or good wrestling. Give me AEW's workrate and I can tolerate WWE's booking.

it's 100% - you can give the wwe crowds aew workrate and it doesn't get over, people sit on their hands waiting for the dumb shit wwe has convinced people is what wrestling is. workrate just does not get over to wwe crowds anymore.

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Tom Bombadil
12/17/19 10:08:27 AM
#309:


well I guess I can't speak for the entire WWE Universe

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RaidenGarai
12/17/19 10:27:42 AM
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PrivateBiscuit1
12/17/19 9:05:04 PM
#311:


It's been one year since we became the authority! I think we really screwed up.

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scarletspeed7
12/17/19 9:06:04 PM
#312:


I don't know about you guys but I became the Planetary, not the Authority.

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TheRock1525
12/18/19 1:13:05 AM
#313:


So Sin Cara is telling companies he doesn't have a no-compete clause.

Somehow he botches getting released.

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ScareChan
12/18/19 1:33:20 AM
#314:


TheRock1525 posted...
So Sin Cara is telling companies he doesn't have a no-compete clause.

Somehow he botches getting released.

I don't get this one. Doesn't that mean he can go work now? How is that a botch?

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TheRock1525
12/18/19 1:42:58 AM
#315:


ScareChan posted...
I don't get this one. Doesn't that mean he can go work now? How is that a botch?

He still has a 90 day no-compete clause.

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Steiner
12/18/19 3:39:59 AM
#316:


if he thinks he can make more money outside wwe than the no-compete pays him, it's no botch!

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Jakyl25
12/18/19 10:24:14 AM
#317:


I think it was a botch to make his first appearance in AAA as Sin Cara.

WWE cant be happy with that
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Jakyl25
12/18/19 11:10:54 AM
#318:


So tonights the end of Shaynas reign right?

This is one of those perfect opportunities to beat a dominant champion and cement a new star.
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Strife2
12/18/19 11:13:20 AM
#319:


The question is will they pull an Asuka or an AJ where they keep winning (which is fine), but the right choice is to switch the title.

*still bummed Nakamura got shafted*

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Jakyl25
12/18/19 11:15:53 AM
#320:


The only reason I can even come up with to keep the title on Shayna is in service of a Becky vs Shayna WM main event

Even if that was the direction, and Im not sure it is, I still think it makes MORE sense for her to lose tonight.
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Steiner
12/18/19 11:37:22 AM
#321:


Jakyl25 posted...
Even if that was the direction, and Im not sure it is, I still think it makes MORE sense for her to lose tonight.

then disappear til she wins the rumble.

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Jakyl25
12/18/19 11:49:37 AM
#322:


Would be neat to see the Rumble come down to Shayna and Ronda
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Maniac64
12/18/19 8:57:09 PM
#323:


Boo AEW putting what looked like a potentially funny Jericho promo during the commercial break. Picture in picture doesnt help when its a promo guys. Just shows us what we are missing.

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Strife2
12/18/19 10:51:24 PM
#324:


Yeah, NXT is amazing. I'm glad I finally got to watch an episode for free. Not having cable kinda sucks...sometimes

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TheRock1525
12/18/19 11:20:13 PM
#325:


AEW is good WWE.
NXT is good ROH.

Convince me otherwise.

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Eddv
12/19/19 9:51:28 AM
#326:


I made a voting and debate topic for our year ebd awards

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/8-gamefaqs-contests/78266872#1

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Fastbreak
12/19/19 2:23:21 PM
#327:


Edge signed a new contract with wwe that includes an in ring return

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RaidenGarai
12/19/19 2:40:27 PM
#328:


Can't he die or be paralyzed if he takes a bad bump?

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XIII_rocks
12/19/19 3:04:32 PM
#329:


RaidenGarai posted...
Can't he die or be paralyzed if he takes a bad bump?

I imagine he wouldn't be doing it without the precautions, and he likely wouldn't be cleared if there was a big risk

Dude is doing fine financially I would bet too so it's not like he'd be doing it solely for the money

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scarletspeed7
12/19/19 3:41:34 PM
#330:


Good job Saudis

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Jakyl25
12/19/19 5:28:13 PM
#331:


NXT not only beat AEW in total viewers last night, but for the first time, they won the prime demo
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TheRock1525
12/19/19 5:50:04 PM
#332:


AEW saw Vince hemorrhaging viewers and said "hold my beer."

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Strife2
12/19/19 5:53:13 PM
#333:


Well, Rhea and Shayna were destroying themselves in the main event. When I switched back, I saw Cody getting "creeped on" by 20 guys. I think it was meant to be serious, but having Dark Order do a cheesy promo beforehand wasn't something I went for.

Statlander/Baker was opposite Dunne/Banks, so that didn't help.

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Jakyl25
12/19/19 5:58:56 PM
#334:


One quirk of the stats I cant explain

NXT dominated women 35-49 but lost women 12-34
AEW dominated men 12-34 but lost men 35-49

Weird
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TheRock1525
12/19/19 6:39:47 PM
#335:


AEW trying to be attitude era TV with better work rates attracts viewers who were teenager/early 20's during the AE.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/20/19 12:46:17 PM
#336:


Io Shirai is pretty awesome.

https://twitter.com/CatchWrestling/status/1207790378692288513?s=19

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Strife2
12/20/19 1:33:54 PM
#337:


Looks like Baron Corbin snuck into the audience. Seriously, the name alone gives it away, as does the ""FROM TOKYO" part.

I mean, that is another level of stupid.

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Jakyl25
12/20/19 6:40:04 PM
#338:


Top rated matches of the week in the new Observer, featuring NXT, AEW, and Dragon Gate. Notably NOT featuring TLC or Final Battle

****1/2
Naruki Doi vs Ben K

****1/4
Adam Cole vs Finn Balor

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Lucha Bros vs Page/Omega
Rhea Ripley vs Shayna Baszler
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TheRock1525
12/21/19 11:52:03 AM
#339:


https://twitter.com/ItsKlondikeBill/status/1207962353867919361?s=19

Shane has joined the Dark Order!

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Strife2
12/21/19 12:43:10 PM
#340:


Mark Henry and others suggested that AEW fire that guy on sight

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Jakyl25
12/21/19 3:25:29 PM
#341:


https://twitter.com/arikcannon/status/1208462299964592128?s=21

Arik Cannon has come forward as the culprit

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Maniac64
12/21/19 4:21:22 PM
#342:


Cannon is a good wrestler so if it was him it was intentionally done wrong.

Also he has lost some weight since the last time I saw him.

Assuming it is him and he isnt just covering for one of his young MN guys.

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NBIceman
12/21/19 4:21:48 PM
#343:


He's definitely joking.

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Jakyl25
12/21/19 4:23:53 PM
#344:


NBIceman posted...
He's definitely joking.


Dustin said he wasnt and I assume he would know
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Jakyl25
12/21/19 4:25:37 PM
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Jakyl25
12/21/19 4:39:09 PM
#346:


I mean, given the physique difference youre probably right

But he sure didnt phrase it like a joke and now its probably gonna go down in wrestling legend as him <_<
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Maniac64
12/21/19 6:50:36 PM
#347:


Also the idea that those fake punches in a crowded fight is "exposing the business " is dumb. Like what those punches are going to make people realize there isnt actually a cult of masked dudes that advertise on tv and in subways attacking?

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/21/19 6:58:33 PM
#348:


I heard that he apparently thought the camera was on the opposite side of him, so he thought he could get away with punches like that, which makes more sense if he was trying to protect Dustin too.

I also feel like we shouldn't give him too much shit. Nervous indy guy on a big stage like that punching a legend like Dustin who is already bleeding.

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PrivateBiscuit1
12/22/19 2:21:03 PM
#349:


Joey Ryan always with a good take.
https://twitter.com/JoeyRyanOnline/status/1208583436061073410?s=19

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Lopen
12/23/19 1:35:53 PM
#350:


I think AEW is trying to do too much and it's hurting them.

Like they probably have twice the roster size they actually need, focusing on the half that doesn't need focus far too often.

If you have 2 hours of TV programming a week, why are you building up The Dark Order or The Butcher and The Blade or Jimmy Havoc or the Dentist or Big Swole or whatever else.

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