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Vol2tex 10/19/19 2:04:49 PM #1: |
What would attract YOU, CE, to watch wrestling?
AEW's ratings seem consistent around 1 million viewers, and WWE's ratings are between 2-2.5 million viewers and falling. What could be done to attract entirely new fans to watch? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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C_Pain 10/19/19 2:08:59 PM #2: |
I find the normie Fox push to be cringe. Wrestling should be niche, lol.
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jpenny2 10/19/19 2:11:43 PM #3: |
WWE has a hard enough time keeping existing fans, so I don't know what they could do to attract new ones. They'd basically have to overhaul the entire product and make it into something new, something that wouldn't have all the negative stigmas attached to professional wrestling.
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Hayame Zero 10/19/19 2:12:56 PM #4: |
It's gone back to being a niche like in the 80s. It's going through a mild resurgence because of more options besides WWE, but it will never match the hype and viewers the late 90s had.
The lapsed fans that have already returned recently is probably the best it's going to get. But the industry is still doing well despite how it may seem. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Southernfatman 10/19/19 2:13:24 PM #5: |
WWE, no. AEW, maybe. I'm rooting for NWA though. A lot of people have been missing the old school style of wrestling. At this point, old is new because it's different. Hopefully they'll be able to get the word out and attract more fans.
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cjsdowg 10/19/19 2:15:54 PM #6: |
HLA .. that would bring everyone back.
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AlecSkorpio 10/19/19 2:15:59 PM #7: |
It cant, at least not in the numbers they want.
Wrestling got a reputation for being trash tv in the 90s so your typical person wont watch it, let alone go to shows. Meanwhile mainstream WWE has gotten dumber and more kid friendly the past 15 years which not only turns off teens but a ton of their older fans. --- Christian Bale profited off the Iraq War ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 10/19/19 2:17:30 PM #8: |
yea it can't. they already have a locked in fan base. the only real new additions are kids. neither organization is doing anything that made it interesting in the 90s and early 2000s. they're just pretending to be another MMA/real sport league and its just....whatever.
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DarthDemented 10/19/19 2:18:14 PM #9: |
Get it back to the way it was in the 90's. It's gotten way too family friendly.
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Blue_Target 10/19/19 2:19:46 PM #10: |
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Hayame Zero 10/19/19 2:23:34 PM #11: |
AlecSkorpio posted...
Wrestling got a reputation for being trash tv in the 90s so your typical person wont watch it, let alone go to shows. This is true. I loved the Attitude Era, but most of it was pretty trashy. Most of WWF wasn't much different than Jerry Springer. That's honestly why it became as big as it was. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 10/19/19 2:26:15 PM #13: |
Hayame Zero posted...
This is true. I loved the Attitude Era, but most of it was pretty trashy. Most of WWF wasn't much different than Jerry Springer. That's honestly why it became as big as it was.But that's what got people to watch. a lot of things are regarded as Trash TV....People liked the wrestling but it was the stories and drama that kept people watching. These days the stories are very vanilla and the the focus is on the choreography in the ring....which is fun to watch sometimes, but its not going to keep people tuning in every week. I didn't watch every episode because i liked Kane's chokeslam....I wanted to see what was going to happen next in the story. and since people know the outcome is predetermined, the storyline has to be the main focus. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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1NfamousACE_2 10/19/19 2:28:31 PM #14: |
TNA
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Hayame Zero 10/19/19 2:34:31 PM #15: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
But that's what got people to watch. a lot of things are regarded as Trash TV....People liked the wrestling but it was the stories and drama that kept people watching. These days the stories are very vanilla and the the focus is on the choreography in the ring....which is fun to watch sometimes, but its not going to keep people tuning in every week. I didn't watch every episode because i liked Kane's chokeslam....I wanted to see what was going to happen next in the story. and since people know the outcome is predetermined, the storyline has to be the main focus.I agree that storylines are the issue (mostly with WWE), but I'm specifically referring to soap opera/reality show type angles that worked back then tend to be cringey now. WWE is currently going through its SECOND cheating/cuckholding storyline this year, and has been maligned by most fans. It's like they're trying the stuff they did back then, and it just doesn't work now. --- ...I think I'm done here... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Middle hope 10/19/19 2:37:18 PM #16: |
The only way I can see it getting big is for it to wither and die and come back in 30 years
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Vol2tex 10/19/19 4:07:33 PM #17: |
There's also many more forms of entertainment competing with wrestling now than there was back in Attitude Era.
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Ranting Nord 10/19/19 4:16:26 PM #18: |
Hayame Zero posted...
I agree that storylines are the issue (mostly with WWE), but I'm specifically referring to soap opera/reality show type angles that worked back then tend to be cringey now. This for me. I can get cringey drama with better fake fighting and better special effects in the CW super hero shows which I can stream for free with limited commercials. --- I'll think of a sig later. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Guide 10/19/19 4:20:15 PM #19: |
Idunno about new fans, But I caught the height and extreme stunts of the 90s, and it just hasn't done it for me in the same way since. I'm glad people aren't getting hurt in the same way, though.
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Rebel_Patriot 10/19/19 4:21:33 PM #20: |
Loaded 9mm on a pole match
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stoltenberg11 10/19/19 4:26:07 PM #21: |
More badass characters
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TheVipaGTS 10/19/19 4:28:45 PM #22: |
Yea i agree that the stories back then were cringy, but that's kinda what added to it. The gimmicks were over the top and the angles were too crazy to be real, but it was entertaining...These days its just "i'm a strong guy who is mad at another strong guy and i'm gonna beat him!"..that works for the MMA or Boxing where the match is real..not when you know the outcome is predetermined..there's little to no character any more. I guess you're right in that the attitude era might not work today, and that's probably why they switched to making it about the in ring product, but that won't gain them many fans.
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Pepys Monster 10/19/19 4:34:57 PM #23: |
1) Actually good video games.
2) More blood and ruthless aggression 3) Less corny terms like "WWE universe" and "WWE superstar," and allow wrestlers to call themselves wrestlers. 4) Give the wrestlers more creative control over their character. These soap opera writers DON'T make good characters and storylines. --- GOML ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CelestialVoices 10/19/19 4:39:26 PM #24: |
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Soggy_Pocket 10/19/19 4:47:25 PM #25: |
I'll probably never watch the shows again, but I would like to have better video games. I love the customization available but the game play is just off. It's not supposed to be a simulation, it needs to be a simple arcade style game that isn't afraid to go a little over the top.
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leebul 10/19/19 4:48:56 PM #26: |
Having a mix of good and interesting storylines and characters with the current focus on the in ring matches could probably bring more people in.
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R1masher 10/19/19 4:51:42 PM #27: |
They need to make it either not no so homoerotic or more homoerotic, theyre playing a dangerous game trying to tiptoe around it
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shadowfan 10/19/19 4:54:08 PM #28: |
I'm just not into it. If I want to watch scripted fights, I'll watch shows with higher production values.
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Hop103 10/19/19 5:21:09 PM #29: |
Revive the Attitude Era.
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Vol2tex 10/20/19 10:53:12 AM #30: |
Soggy_Pocket posted...
I'll probably never watch the shows again, but I would like to have better video games. I love the customization available but the game play is just off. It's not supposed to be a simulation, it needs to be a simple arcade style game that isn't afraid to go a little over the top. What do you think of the new game? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SimpleMan 10/20/19 11:26:03 AM #31: |
I was a fan from the 80s on. Last bit of new wrestling I watched was part of Mania 30. Not sure there's anything they could do to get me watching again.
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Raikuro 10/20/19 11:28:21 AM #32: |
Film it more like a professional TV drama instead of the reality tv camerawork.
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Vol2tex 10/20/19 11:49:39 AM #33: |
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Film it more like a professional TV drama instead of the reality tv camerawork. So like Lucha Underground? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Calwings 10/20/19 11:53:53 AM #34: |
Vol2tex posted...
Raikuro posted...Film it more like a professional TV drama instead of the reality tv camerawork. God yes. Lucha Underground might be the most fun I ever had watching wrestling. Some promotions like NJPW try to embrace realism and present wrestling like a sport, but LU went in the complete opposite direction and embraced the absurd and crazy. Between the crazy characters, the mythology behind the stories, and the violence, it was honestly closer to a TV adaptation of Mortal Kombat than an actual wrestling promotion. Shame it got cancelled. --- "Someday I too will fly... and find you again!" https://i.imgtc.ws/khu6DHv.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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user-2 10/20/19 12:21:49 PM #35: |
Tbh, I really liked how they made the storylines in TNA with the hidden camera recordings. It was easier to suspend your disbelief then. I was a huge wrestling fan till I was 14. I was totally obsessed with it and then it got so predictable because there's only so much you can do with wrestling. How many times can someone interfere in a match, or distract the referee or jump off a cage, etc...
Even now when I look back on some clips of old wrestling on YT. A lot of it seems childish. Even the stuff from Attitude/Ruthless Aggression Era which is arguably the best time period of wrestling. One way wrestling can get back is by making more storylines, more backstage segments, better acting. Try something new or controversial. Hell, Katie Vick is considered the worst storyline in history but I loved it because it was absolutely hilarious because HHH had the charisma to pull it off. I still laugh my ass off at "I screwed your brains out" lol ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Soggy_Pocket 10/20/19 12:25:57 PM #36: |
Vol2tex posted...
Soggy_Pocket posted...I'll probably never watch the shows again, but I would like to have better video games. I love the customization available but the game play is just off. It's not supposed to be a simulation, it needs to be a simple arcade style game that isn't afraid to go a little over the top. Haven't played the new ones. I picked up 2k16 for like 10 bucks and while it has some cool stuff, they still haven't figured out how to blend universe and career mode together to. Get the best "seasonal" experience. --- Eat at the Aloha Snack Bar! Best eats this side of the island! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vol2tex 10/20/19 3:02:33 PM #37: |
Calwings posted...
Vol2tex posted...Raikuro posted...Film it more like a professional TV drama instead of the reality tv camerawork. I loved Lucha Underground, Dario Cueto was a great character. I also liked the athleticism and the intergender matches. Why did it fail? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 10/20/19 3:04:32 PM #38: |
Tag for latter when I can type on my keyboard
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Lost_All_Senses 10/20/19 3:09:17 PM #39: |
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Vol2tex 10/20/19 7:55:27 PM #40: |
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Make it entirely those skinny white girls. Nitro Girls? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bad_Mojo 10/20/19 7:56:46 PM #41: |
2020 will be another boom period for pro wrestling. I promise you
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p-m 10/20/19 8:08:29 PM #42: |
I watched wrestling as a kid and went to one of the last UK shows WCW did, but I'd totally lost interest by 2003 and never really thought about it again. Cut to late 2016 and I see some online friends talking about how good Smackdown has been, I'm curious so I check it out and I'm instantly hooked and staying up late watching ppvs regularly. Then in January 2018 I went to a British wrestling show and saw Will Ospreay in a match, blew my mind and turned me on to New Japan. Since then I've abandoned WWE, tried almost every wrestling streaming service going and watched hundreds of matches that for a time I was keeping well organised ranked spreadsheets for. I guess I wouldn't count as a new fan because I liked it as a kid, but I think getting people who watched as a kid to start taking it seriously is very much possible. You just need word of mouth about quality wrestling and booking, going to live shows really gets across how powerful a wrestling match can be. I have two daughters, one biological one step, they've both shown an interest in wrestling when I've been watching it and I think they could be fans when they're older.
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Wii_Shaker 10/20/19 8:17:30 PM #43: |
Wrestling is essentially competing with everything else out there.
Gaming Skateboarding Professional sports Anime Comic books You name it. If wrestling is going to attract new fans, it has to be dynamic enough and interesting enough to attract younger viewers of all demographics as well as holding on to current wrestling fans. I think AEW is really putting a fire under the ass of WWE to step up their overall presentation. Wrestling has always been it's best with different federations competing for the appeal of the fans. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Vol2tex 10/21/19 1:46:44 PM #44: |
p-m posted...
I watched wrestling as a kid and went to one of the last UK shows WCW did, but I'd totally lost interest by 2003 and never really thought about it again. Cut to late 2016 and I see some online friends talking about how good Smackdown has been, I'm curious so I check it out and I'm instantly hooked and staying up late watching ppvs regularly. Then in January 2018 I went to a British wrestling show and saw Will Ospreay in a match, blew my mind and turned me on to New Japan. Since then I've abandoned WWE, tried almost every wrestling streaming service going and watched hundreds of matches that for a time I was keeping well organised ranked spreadsheets for. I guess I wouldn't count as a new fan because I liked it as a kid, but I think getting people who watched as a kid to start taking it seriously is very much possible. You just need word of mouth about quality wrestling and booking, going to live shows really gets across how powerful a wrestling match can be. I have two daughters, one biological one step, they've both shown an interest in wrestling when I've been watching it and I think they could be fans when they're older. That's an awesome story --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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frogman_295 10/21/19 1:51:37 PM #46: |
Not being wrestling.
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sLaCkEr408___RJ 10/21/19 1:51:59 PM #47: |
Transformations like super saiyan
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Christian RULES 10/21/19 1:56:07 PM #48: |
Have WWE form a partnership with Disney/Marvel. Together I'm pretty sure they will make WWE great again and also a bunch of
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Were_Wyrm 10/21/19 1:58:18 PM #49: |
Death matches, matches on chariots, and man vs beast matches.
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SauI_Goodman 10/21/19 1:58:53 PM #50: |
I was a wrasslin fan of 25 years and HHH's backstage politics made me quit. It would take a lot to get me back in it.
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