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scar the 1
10/13/19 10:19:59 AM
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https://twitter.com/highimpactsex/status/1183020283860418561?s=19

tl;dr: A lot of people like to point at Japan as an example of how conservatism and strong borders leads to a low-crime, prosperous country. That's an incorrect take, and this Twitter thread just gives some basic nuance
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Tyranthraxus
10/13/19 10:23:05 AM
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Oh I was just gonna say guns are hella banned as fuck.

You need a license for a literal airsoft gun in Japan.


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DarkRoast
10/13/19 10:33:08 AM
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It's interesting how Ann in Persona 5 is only 1/4th American but is perceived as being way out of place at school.

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BignutzisBack
10/13/19 10:35:56 AM
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kirbymuncher
10/13/19 11:40:32 AM
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"Japan, where politics and social issues do not exist because they're not featured in American media and I can't read Japanese"


some good responses to that tweet too
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friendbuddypal
10/13/19 11:47:59 AM
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Yikes, anime incels have gone real quiet.
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ThyCorndog
10/13/19 11:50:46 AM
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whenever someone says japan is homogeneous I know they're talking out of their ass
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AmericaTheBrave
10/13/19 11:53:27 AM
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Japan is one of the fakest countries ever. There's a lot of rot there under the surface.
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Wewillrocku
10/13/19 11:55:05 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
whenever someone says japan is homogeneous I know they're talking out of their ass

referring to what?
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Hop103
10/13/19 11:56:22 AM
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You don't even need conservatism for strong borders, wanting strong borders is common sense. However, Japan has it's issues, work culture is shit, they are worse than the US when is comes to mental health, which is entirely caused by culture as they have UHC and means to end their stigma and other issues unlike the US which is more availability and cost (no UHC here) and we are shaking off the stigma save for PTSD (which people still think is not real), there are still lingering issues concerning the Ainu, their graft is also higher than the US.

Japanese MSM is far better than the US MSM (the hate pieces are very low in Japan), although their tabloids can be quite damaging to celebs especially idols unlike TMZ which is more annoying and a nuisance.
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Ivynn
10/13/19 11:57:05 AM
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DarkRoast posted...
It's interesting how Ann in Persona 5 is only 1/4th American but is perceived as being way out of place at school.


Apparently Takamaki is also a Finnish surname.

So I just headcanon as her actually being Finnish, since it's the only way her "otherness" makes sense to me. >_>
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Sad_Face
10/13/19 12:21:53 PM
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AmericaTheBrave posted...
Japan is one of the fakest countries ever. There's a lot of rot there under the surface.


I read an article of an interview of a guy who runs a company where you can hire someone to roleplay for you as anything. Need a "business partner" to be the fall guy and take the blame, to the point where he will be kowtowing on the ground while your boss chews him out while you stand there looking pretty, when you screw up at a company? He got you. Need a "boyfriend" for a day when you're an aging old lady and want someone to talk to? He got you (but no touching, company policy). Need a FATHER because your daughter is getting picked on for not having a dad in her life? He got you.

I'll dig up the article but it was an incredible eye opener, almost terrifying expos on how ruthless the Japanese culture is. And this isn't counting how excessive their schooling is or their NEET population.
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ROBANN_88
10/13/19 12:23:02 PM
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now that you mention it, saying that "X country is homogenous" does sound a bit too close to "dem dere foregers all look the same to me"
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Butterfiles
10/13/19 12:25:30 PM
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I don't know how much the rest of you know about Japanese culture (I'm an expert)
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scar the 1
10/13/19 12:26:10 PM
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ROBANN_88 posted...
now that you mention it, saying that "X country is homogenous" does sound a bit too close to "dem dere foregers all look the same to me"

Right? Most of the time we just don't know enough about other countries to really make any conclusion
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ThyCorndog
10/13/19 12:27:24 PM
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Wewillrocku posted...
ThyCorndog posted...
whenever someone says japan is homogeneous I know they're talking out of their ass

referring to what?

the population in general
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Ivynn
10/13/19 12:42:37 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
ROBANN_88 posted...
now that you mention it, saying that "X country is homogenous" does sound a bit too close to "dem dere foregers all look the same to me"

Right? Most of the time we just don't know enough about other countries to really make any conclusion


One time somebody called India homogeneous.

Like...lol?
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Thompson
10/13/19 12:45:50 PM
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Ivynn posted...
Apparently Takamaki is also a Finnish surname.

Actually, it'd have to be Takamki to be Finnish.
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masticatingman
10/13/19 12:48:57 PM
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Dont know about culturally homogenous but definitely xenophobic af without question.
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Vita_Aeterna
10/13/19 12:51:59 PM
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DarkRoast posted...
It's interesting how Ann in Persona 5 is only 1/4th American but is perceived as being way out of place at school.

And is somehow fully blonde with blue-green eyes.
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DarkRoast
10/13/19 12:52:28 PM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
And is somehow fully blonde with blue-green eyes.


To be fair, so is the remainder of the 100% Japanese cast

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Medzzz
10/13/19 12:52:53 PM
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Japan wanting to stay Japanese? That is racist
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Solar_Crimson
10/13/19 2:02:21 PM
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Yeah, I like Japanese culture and its media, and would like to visit someday, but there's no way I'd ever live there. There's too many problems even for the native Japanese, let alone the foreigners, and especially Black people.

Medzzz posted...
Japan wanting to stay Japanese? That is racist

It is when they outright mistreat people of different backgrounds.
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tennisdude818
10/13/19 2:19:47 PM
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I dont think people pretend that Japan is a perfect utopia. They just dont have the problems associated with open borders to unskilled economic migrants from the 3rd world.
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LordFarquad1312
10/13/19 2:22:36 PM
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Vita_Aeterna posted...
DarkRoast posted...
It's interesting how Ann in Persona 5 is only 1/4th American but is perceived as being way out of place at school.

And is somehow fully blonde with blue-green eyes.

I always found it weird how they are green some times but blue other times.
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MrNintendo1213
10/13/19 2:24:07 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
I dont think people pretend that Japan is a perfect utopia. They just dont have the problems associated with open borders to unskilled economic migrants from the 3rd world.


Yeah, they don't have cheap labor from other countries coming to help their economy boom.
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rookieplayer03
10/13/19 2:33:07 PM
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scar the 1 posted...
https://twitter.com/highimpactsex/status/1183020283860418561?s=19

tl;dr: A lot of people like to point at Japan as an example of how conservatism and strong borders leads to a low-crime, prosperous country. That's an incorrect take, and this Twitter thread just gives some basic nuance


can we get tweets from Japanese people on their thoughts on this? All I see are non-Japanese people who are giving their 2 cents.

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KillerKhan420
10/13/19 2:38:43 PM
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That damn Bruce Lee........he's karate crazy!
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SpiritSephiroth
10/13/19 4:05:14 PM
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rookieplayer03 posted...
can we get tweets from Japanese people on their thoughts on this? All I see are non-Japanese people who are giving their 2 cents.


This tbh. And I actually see people mostly bashing Japan for its problems more nowadays than praising it.

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HokagoTeaTime
10/13/19 4:09:53 PM
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Tyranthraxus
10/13/19 4:15:10 PM
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KillerKhan420 posted...
That damn Bruce Lee........he's karate crazy!
Bruce is Chinese.

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HokagoTeaTime
10/13/19 4:16:26 PM
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Tyranthraxus
10/13/19 4:22:02 PM
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HokagoTeaTime posted...
Jackie-chan is the Japanese one
No he's also Chinese.

Jet Li also Chinese.

I can't actually think of any famous Japanese native martial artists.

There's Masutatsu Oyama but he's from Korea and only got citizenship in Japan.

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EverDownward
10/13/19 4:26:15 PM
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Since we're (sorta) on the topic of Chinese martial artists, check out Sammo Hung. That dude is awesome to watch.
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averagejoel
10/13/19 4:30:46 PM
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my parents lived in japan for a few years, and one of my mom's brothers married a woman from Okinawa -- japan is an archipelago, and many of the islands, including Okinawa, were colonized in a manner pretty similar to the European colonization of the Americas
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KillerKhan420
10/13/19 4:39:31 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
KillerKhan420 posted...
That damn Bruce Lee........he's karate crazy!
Bruce is Chinese.


Bruce Lee is the descended from a long line of Chinese samurai warriors. I saw the documentary "fist of fear, touch of death" so I know what I'm talking about. Don't respond you'll just end up more foolish than before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXnpEt2GnP4" data-time="


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PuFQmdErbM0" data-time="

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Tyranthraxus
10/13/19 4:45:30 PM
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masticatingman posted...
Dont know about culturally homogenous but definitely xenophobic af without question.


No it's not.

Rural areas are probably going to be xenophobic but not everywhere is. Places like Tokyo are going to be far more accepting. While other places have a distaste for tourists that's not really a Japanese thing. Everyone has that.

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ultimate reaver
10/13/19 5:50:40 PM
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Tokyo is more accepting of tourists because its full of foreign nationals, but hate for certain groups like koreans goes well beyond location in japan

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SpiritSephiroth
10/13/19 5:59:37 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
Tokyo is more accepting of tourists because its full of foreign nationals, but hate for certain groups like koreans goes well beyond location in japan


I've seen Koreans hate on Japanese more. Especially in the idol industry. Hell, kpop Korean fans go on streams to actively harass and terrorize jpop idols to tears.

I think there's also a few assault cases on jpop idols in Korea.
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ultimate reaver
10/13/19 6:03:14 PM
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SpiritSephiroth posted...
I've seen Koreans hate on Japanese more. Especially in the idol industry. Hell, kpop Korean fans go on streams to actively harass and terrorize jpop idols to tears.

I think there's also a few assault cases on jpop idols in Korea.


Hatred goes both ways, but the anti-korean sentiment more often than not is systemic and worse

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Kastrada
10/13/19 6:06:38 PM
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Japan kind of treat their Kurdish immigrants terribly due to having a pretty good relationship with Turkey?

I remember hearing that a year or more before the stuff going on now. Not sure if it was legit or what.

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tennisdude818
10/13/19 7:15:08 PM
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Kastrada posted...
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but doesn't Japan kind of treat their Kurdish immigrants terribly due to having a pretty good relationship with Turkey?

I remember hearing that a year or more before the stuff going on now. Not sure if it was legit or what.


They do seem to have a good relationship with Turkey, but I cant imagine there being very many Kurds in Japan.
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Tyranthraxus
10/13/19 9:45:19 PM
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tennisdude818 posted...
They do seem to have a good relationship with Turkey, but I cant imagine there being very many Kurds in Japan.


Kurds are a group that are present in Iraq, Syria, and Turkey. There's no way the average Japanese person can tell the difference between a Kurd and a normal Erdogan loyalist and any that can probably aren't racist.

So the most likely scenario is that they just treat anyone from that area a little worse than usual and the average normal citizen probably cares nothing for the international relationship with Turkey.

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ssjevot
10/13/19 9:48:06 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
Oh I was just gonna say guns are hella banned as fuck.

You need a license for a literal airsoft gun in Japan.


This is very wrong. A. you can legally own guns in Japan for hunting or competition shooting, but the regulations and paperwork are difficult. B. airsoft requires no permits. You do need a permit for a sword but it's easy to get.

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JBaLLEN66
10/13/19 9:48:12 PM
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Im a black male and Japan is one of the least racist places that I have ever been to
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