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KINDERFELD 09/25/19 5:56:59 PM #1:	8 deaths in the year in America when hundreds of thousands who reside here vape as well,however the push is to outright ban it. More than 880000 alcohol related deaths occur in America each year, however there is no panic or hysteria about that. If the CDC was really about human safety in this regard, alcohol would have been banned. However, its most likely the tobacco industry doing their best along with politicians to get their main competitors banned here in America. This vaping hysteria is all being fabricated. Strange how folks are vaping around the world yet this hysteria and alarm is primarily occurring here in America. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927940282] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>8 deaths in the year in America when hundreds of thousands who reside here vape as well,however the push is to outright ban it. More than 880000 alcohol related deaths occur in America each year, however there is no panic or hysteria about that. If the CDC was really about human safety in this regard, alcohol would have been banned. However, its most likely the tobacco industry doing their best along with politicians to get their main competitors banned here in America. This vaping hysteria is all being fabricated. Strange how folks are vaping around the world yet this hysteria and alarm is primarily occurring here in America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedeaLysistrata 09/25/19 5:59:41 PM #2:	Tobacco is a cottage industry dependent on climate --- "Why is ontology so expensive?" - JH [Is this live?][Joyless planet...] <cite>MedeaLysistrata posted [p:927940415] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Tobacco is a cottage industry dependent on climate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_A_Battery 09/25/19 6:00:37 PM #3:	Why not just ban all this crap, the amount of innocents harmed by these things is in the billions no doubt. <cite>A_A_Battery posted [p:927940460] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Why not just ban all this crap, the amount of innocents harmed by these things is in the billions no doubt.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 6:04:21 PM #4:	MedeaLysistrata posted... Tobacco is a cottage industry dependent on climate In 2018 the global tobacco and cigarette market was worth $888 billion. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927940639] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>MedeaLysistrata posted...</cite> <quote>Tobacco is a cottage industry dependent on climate</quote> In 2018 the global tobacco and cigarette market was worth $888 billion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
friendbuddypal 09/25/19 6:04:53 PM #5:	Ain't capitalism grand? --- CIA: You're a big guy. Bane: For you. <cite>friendbuddypal posted [p:927940662] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Ain't capitalism grand? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Rikiaz 09/25/19 6:05:29 PM #6:	A_A_Battery posted... Why not just ban all this crap, the amount of innocents harmed by these things is in the billions no doubt. Then people get illegal black market ones that are worse and even more people die. Prohibition proved banning drugs and stuff like this doesnt work. --- From the depths, the thing they called Worm King did rise. Nirn itself did scream in the Mages' and Necromancers' war. <cite>Rikiaz posted [p:927940689] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>A_A_Battery posted...</cite> <quote>Why not just ban all this crap, the amount of innocents harmed by these things is in the billions no doubt.</quote> Then people get illegal black market ones that are worse and even more people die. Prohibition proved banning drugs and stuff like this doesnt work.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 6:06:14 PM #7:	Observe that the focus is to ban vaping and not cigarettes, something we have decades of evidence of causing cancer. This is just pathetic. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927940718] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Observe that the focus is to ban vaping and not cigarettes, something we have decades of evidence of causing cancer. This is just pathetic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EzeDoesIt 09/25/19 6:06:37 PM #8:	Its an attack on the cannabis industry as well. --- Not changing this sig. <cite>EzeDoesIt posted [p:927940733] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Its an attack on the cannabis industry as well.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 09/25/19 6:06:42 PM #9:	You shouldnt legalize drugs like Meth and Cocaine because they are dangerously addictive and deadly. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:927940734] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>You shouldnt legalize drugs like Meth and Cocaine because they are dangerously addictive and deadly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 6:09:43 PM #10:	It sucks how the media is being used like the POS tools they allow themselves to be, to push and foster this fabricated hysteria. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927940845] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>It sucks how the media is being used like the POS tools they allow themselves to be, to push and foster this fabricated hysteria.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Elmer_Glue 09/25/19 6:12:11 PM #11:	Its cuz that shit is being targeted towards kids. <cite>Elmer_Glue posted [p:927940946] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Its cuz that shit is being targeted towards kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheMikh 09/25/19 6:15:37 PM #12:	america will end not with a bang but a whimper: think of the children --- https://imgur.com/A0TAfek <cite>TheMikh posted [p:927941074] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>america will end not with a bang but a whimper: think of the children</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkRoast 09/25/19 6:17:01 PM #13:	Vaping isn't regulated. It's also relatively new. We literally have no idea what the long term medical consequences are. --- Well allons-y, Alonso! <cite>DarkRoast posted [p:927941125] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Vaping isn't regulated. It's also relatively new. We literally have no idea what the long term medical consequences are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 6:17:34 PM #14:	Elmer_Glue posted... Its cuz that shit is being targeted towards kids. Just like cigarettes was. The CD has substantial proof of many cigarette related deaths. Have they been banned? --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927941144] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Elmer_Glue posted...</cite> <quote>Its cuz that shit is being targeted towards kids.</quote> Just like cigarettes was. The CD has substantial proof of many cigarette related deaths. Have they been banned?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 6:20:55 PM #15:	DarkRoast posted...<br /> Vaping isn't regulated. It's also relatively new. We literally have no idea what the long term medical consequences are. Yet in a world where other people in other countries are also vaping, this hysteria is primarily limited to America. I guess other first world countries care less about their kids that's why we're number 1 in having the most overweight ones. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927941293] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite><br /><quote>Vaping isn't regulated. It's also relatively new. We literally have no idea what the long term medical consequences are.</quote> Yet in a world where other people in other countries are also vaping, this hysteria is primarily limited to America. I guess other first world countries care less about their kids that's why we're number 1 in having the most overweight ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Duncanwii 09/25/19 6:39:06 PM #16:	KINDERFELD posted... Elmer_Glue posted... Its cuz that shit is being targeted towards kids. Just like cigarettes was. The CD has substantial proof of many cigarette related deaths. Have they been banned? They should be. Any non prescribed from a doctor drug should be. --- Hello, I like video games and comedies. Let's be friends. :) <cite>Duncanwii posted [p:927942008] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>KINDERFELD posted...</cite> <quote>Elmer_Glue posted...</cite> <quote>Its cuz that shit is being targeted towards kids.</quote> Just like cigarettes was. The CD has substantial proof of many cigarette related deaths. Have they been banned?</quote> They should be. Any non prescribed from a doctor drug should be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pancake 09/25/19 6:41:07 PM #17:	If the CDC was really about human safety in this regard, alcohol would have been banned. do you vape? i sense anger. --- https://i.imgtc.com/wKgp7al.gif <cite>Pancake posted [p:927942091] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>If the CDC was really about human safety in this regard, alcohol would have been banned. do you vape? i sense anger.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pres_madagascar 09/25/19 6:43:23 PM #18:	Duncanwii posted... You shouldnt legalize drugs like Meth and Cocaine because they are dangerously addictive and deadly. Cocaine is nowhere near as addictive or dangerous as meth and heroine. People who casually or socially do cocaine is pretty normal, the same is not often said of the other two. --- https://imgur.com/23CCcZB https://imgur.com/32mwCo1 https://imgur.com/oqklqKC <cite>pres_madagascar posted [p:927942189] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Duncanwii posted... </cite> <quote>You shouldnt legalize drugs like Meth and Cocaine because they are dangerously addictive and deadly.</quote>Cocaine is nowhere near as addictive or dangerous as meth and heroine. People who casually or socially do cocaine is pretty normal, the same is not often said of the other two. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 09/25/19 6:52:38 PM #19:	DarkRoast posted... Vaping isn't regulated. It's also relatively new. We literally have no idea what the long term medical consequences are. The FDA does regulate nic vaping to an extent, and people have been doing it for over a decade now. This recent hysteria is from back alley THC vapes being cut with bad shit, and big tobacco muddying the waters by pushing propaganda that nic vapes are the cause. You're pretty uninformed for a supposed doctor. --- Oda break tracker 2019- 6 (4) \| THE Ohio State: 3-0 \| Oakland Raiders: 1-1 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:927942585] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>DarkRoast posted...</cite> <quote>Vaping isn't regulated. It's also relatively new. We literally have no idea what the long term medical consequences are.</quote> The FDA does regulate nic vaping to an extent, and people have been doing it for over a decade now. This recent hysteria is from back alley THC vapes being cut with bad shit, and big tobacco muddying the waters by pushing propaganda that nic vapes are the cause. You're pretty uninformed for a supposed doctor.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 6:52:47 PM #20:	Pancake posted... If the CDC was really about human safety in this regard, alcohol would have been banned. do you vape? i sense anger. No I don't vape, however my husband does and it got him to quit cigarettes now for 4 years. I am well aware that this hysteria is fabricated. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927942596] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Pancake posted... </cite> <quote>If the CDC was really about human safety in this regard, alcohol would have been banned. do you vape? i sense anger.</quote> No I don't vape, however my husband does and it got him to quit cigarettes now for 4 years. I am well aware that this hysteria is fabricated. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Crepes 09/25/19 6:53:24 PM #21:	I get that vaping is meant to be less harmful that smoking but I wonder how many new young people have started vaping in the last five years that wouldnt have otherwise. Also isnt the main concern with the deaths around dodgy unregulated thc vape juices? Banning vaping because people are smoking stuff someone made in their bedroom is like banning alcohol cause someone died drinking some 90% ethanol someone cooked up at home. --- Praxis Makes Perfect The only intelligent tactical response to life's horror is to laugh defiantly at it. ~Soren Kierkegaard <cite>Crepes posted [p:927942633] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>I get that vaping is meant to be less harmful that smoking but I wonder how many new young people have started vaping in the last five years that wouldnt have otherwise. Also isnt the main concern with the deaths around dodgy unregulated thc vape juices? Banning vaping because people are smoking stuff someone made in their bedroom is like banning alcohol cause someone died drinking some 90% ethanol someone cooked up at home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pancake 09/25/19 7:38:24 PM #22:	No I don't vape, however my husband does and it got him to quit cigarettes now for 4 years. I am well aware that this hysteria is fabricated. you seem really sure about that and i have to ask why. because i read this thing https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29485005 and it basically says there is no regulation or data for them yet. --- https://i.imgtc.com/wKgp7al.gif <cite>Pancake posted [p:927944577] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>No I don't vape, however my husband does and it got him to quit cigarettes now for 4 years. I am well aware that this hysteria is fabricated. you seem really sure about that and i have to ask why. because i read this thing https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29485005 and it basically says there is no regulation or data for them yet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 09/25/19 7:55:36 PM #23:	Both the government and the media know that vaping is a soft target that won't get much sympathy from the general public. It's a relatively new subculture, which makes it extra susceptible to the fearmongering on display; news outlets can even get away with occasionally mentioning 'well yeah, all these deaths are related to aftermarket THC,' and no one without a vested interest in vaping will think twice about it. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:927945365] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Both the government and the media know that vaping is a soft target that won't get much sympathy from the general public. It's a relatively new subculture, which makes it extra susceptible to the fearmongering on display; news outlets can even get away with occasionally mentioning 'well yeah, all these deaths are related to aftermarket THC,' and no one without a vested interest in vaping will think twice about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pancake 09/25/19 8:00:21 PM #24:	fine. show me proof that it's safe, then. --- https://i.imgtc.com/wKgp7al.gif <cite>Pancake posted [p:927945597] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>fine. show me proof that it's safe, then.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 8:39:34 PM #25:	Pancake posted... fine. show me proof that it's safe, then. 8 related deaths only in America out of a world of people vaping hardly shows cause. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927947383] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Pancake posted... </cite> <quote>fine. show me proof that it's safe, then.</quote> 8 related deaths only in America out of a world of people vaping hardly shows cause. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pancake 09/25/19 9:18:57 PM #26:	https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/health/georgia-vaping-death-bn/index.html 11 now. also, you didn't show me any proof that it's safe, you just told me that people died from it. 'but at least it's not that many!' yeah, no. that's not how safe works. --- https://i.imgtc.com/wKgp7al.gif <cite>Pancake posted [p:927949255] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/health/georgia-vaping-death-bn/index.html 11 now. also, you didn't show me any proof that it's safe, you just told me that people died from it. 'but at least it's not that many!' yeah, no. that's not how safe works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 9:23:34 PM #27:	Pancake posted... https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/health/georgia-vaping-death-bn/index.html 11 now. also, you didn't show me any proof that it's safe, you just told me that people died from it. 'but at least it's not that many!' yeah, no. that's not how safe works. That is hardly any proof that vaping was responsible for their death. The CDC is making a vague assumption based on the fact that those who died had vaping in common. If that were the case, we'd have worldwide vaping related deaths and not just 11 death only in America. wake up!! --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927949501] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Pancake posted... </cite> <quote>https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/25/health/georgia-vaping-death-bn/index.html 11 now. also, you didn't show me any proof that it's safe, you just told me that people died from it. 'but at least it's not that many!' yeah, no. that's not how safe works.</quote> That is hardly any proof that vaping was responsible for their death. The CDC is making a vague assumption based on the fact that those who died had vaping in common. If that were the case, we'd have worldwide vaping related deaths and not just 11 death only in America. wake up!! </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
konokonohamaru 09/25/19 9:29:58 PM #28:	TC sounds like he works for a vaping company --- A very happy young man looking forward to a bright and wonderful future. <cite>konokonohamaru posted [p:927949807] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>TC sounds like he works for a vaping company</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iPhone_7 09/25/19 9:32:47 PM #29:	Why not just regulate it, why outright ban it. --- Sig User Logic https://imgur.com/lA5fm7w <cite>iPhone_7 posted [p:927949950] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Why not just regulate it, why outright ban it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 09/25/19 9:33:01 PM #30:	KINDERFELD posted... Pancake posted... If the CDC was really about human safety in this regard, alcohol would have been banned. do you vape? i sense anger. No I don't vape, however my husband does and it got him to quit cigarettes now for 4 years. I am well aware that this hysteria is fabricated. He didnt quit if hes been vaping for four years no matter how you spin it/wish to believe. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:927949966] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>KINDERFELD posted...</cite> <quote>Pancake posted... </cite> <quote>If the CDC was really about human safety in this regard, alcohol would have been banned. do you vape? i sense anger.</quote> No I don't vape, however my husband does and it got him to quit cigarettes now for 4 years. I am well aware that this hysteria is fabricated. </quote> He didnt quit if hes been vaping for four years no matter how you spin it/wish to believe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gamerguymass 09/25/19 9:33:34 PM #31:	I would say it's more pathetic seeing potheads try to justify being a pothead. --- Now Playing: "The Hunt for the Two Missing Nintendo 64 Games" An expansion came out, but I'm still a third of the way through! <cite>Gamerguymass posted [p:927949996] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>I would say it's more pathetic seeing potheads try to justify being a pothead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 9:33:55 PM #32:	Zeeak4444 posted... He didnt quit if hes been vaping for four years no matter how you spin it/wish to believe. He's not smoking and we have overwhelming proof of the harms of smoking cigarettes. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927950019] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>He didnt quit if hes been vaping for four years no matter how you spin it/wish to believe.</quote> He's not smoking and we have overwhelming proof of the harms of smoking cigarettes. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/25/19 9:38:05 PM #33:	Cigarettes suck and Big Tobacco is evil. That's an ongoing issue. Vaping is an unregulated and untested phenomena that advocates like to push as a "safe" way to get nicotine when there is absolutely no proof that it is the case. Just because thousands of people haven't died instantly yet doesn't mean it's safe or healthy. Vaping is literally in its infancy. It's the equivalent to a fad diet right now. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927950199] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Cigarettes suck and Big Tobacco is evil. That's an ongoing issue. Vaping is an unregulated and untested phenomena that advocates like to push as a "safe" way to get nicotine when there is absolutely no proof that it is the case. Just because thousands of people haven't died instantly yet doesn't mean it's safe or healthy. Vaping is literally in its infancy. It's the equivalent to a fad diet right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/25/19 9:40:01 PM #34:	KINDERFELD posted... Zeeak4444 posted... He didnt quit if hes been vaping for four years no matter how you spin it/wish to believe. He's not smoking and we have overwhelming proof of the harms of smoking cigarettes. "No one has proven that it isn't safe either" is a weird way to decide whether to suck things into your lungs. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927950288] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>KINDERFELD posted...</cite> <quote>Zeeak4444 posted... </cite> <quote>He didnt quit if hes been vaping for four years no matter how you spin it/wish to believe.</quote> He's not smoking and we have overwhelming proof of the harms of smoking cigarettes. </quote> "No one has proven that it isn't safe either" is a weird way to decide whether to suck things into your lungs.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
codey 09/25/19 9:41:06 PM #35:	Most of the big vape companies are owned by tobacco companies, they aren't trying to get it banned. --- *runs out of topic naked* <cite>codey posted [p:927950338] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Most of the big vape companies are owned by tobacco companies, they aren't trying to get it banned. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 09/25/19 9:42:23 PM #36:	Bootleg TCH vapes kill 8 people. "Let's ban flavored nicotine vapes!" --- //constant loneliness// --- Steam and Fortnite: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:927950395] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Bootleg TCH vapes kill 8 people. "Let's ban flavored nicotine vapes!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 9:44:17 PM #37:	hockeybub89 posted... "No one has proven that it isn't safe either" is a weird way to decide whether to suck things into your lungs. Folks who understand that harms of smoking and the additive nature of nicotine advocate for vaping over smoking. 11 vaping related deaths worldwide does not show causation. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927950484] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>"No one has proven that it isn't safe either" is a weird way to decide whether to suck things into your lungs.</quote> Folks who understand that harms of smoking and the additive nature of nicotine advocate for vaping over smoking. 11 vaping related deaths worldwide does not show causation. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/25/19 9:46:10 PM #38:	KINDERFELD posted... hockeybub89 posted... "No one has proven that it isn't safe either" is a weird way to decide whether to suck things into your lungs. Folks who understand that harms of smoking and the additive nature of nicotine advocate for vaping over smoking. 11 vaping related deaths worldwide does not show causation. How many people are killed quickly by cigarettes? --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927950557] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>KINDERFELD posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>"No one has proven that it isn't safe either" is a weird way to decide whether to suck things into your lungs.</quote> Folks who understand that harms of smoking and the additive nature of nicotine advocate for vaping over smoking. 11 vaping related deaths worldwide does not show causation. </quote> How many people are killed quickly by cigarettes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CanuckCowboy 09/25/19 9:48:08 PM #39:	A_A_Battery posted... Why not just ban all this crap, the amount of innocents harmed by these things is in the billions no doubt. Because unlike you apparently people understand basic logic. Not enough to decriminalize everything but enough to have learned a tiny something from prohibition --- "I got a rolla truc, look" ~ sleaford mods "The most tender place in my heart is for strangers." ~ neko case <cite>CanuckCowboy posted [p:927950632] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>A_A_Battery posted...</cite> <quote>Why not just ban all this crap, the amount of innocents harmed by these things is in the billions no doubt.</quote> Because unlike you apparently people understand basic logic. Not enough to decriminalize everything but enough to have learned a tiny something from prohibition</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/25/19 9:48:31 PM #40:	hockeybub89 posted... How many people are killed quickly by cigarettes? --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927950648] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>How many people are killed quickly by cigarettes?</quote> </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/25/19 9:51:28 PM #41:	KINDERFELD posted... hockeybub89 posted... How many people are killed quickly by cigarettes? It's way too early to say vaping is safe because a bunch of people haven't already gotten lung and heart disease and died. We can advocate for not criminalizing drug use without pushing fake news about it being safe. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927950798] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>KINDERFELD posted...</cite> <quote>hockeybub89 posted... </cite> <quote>How many people are killed quickly by cigarettes?</quote> </quote> It's way too early to say vaping is safe because a bunch of people haven't already gotten lung and heart disease and died. We can advocate for not criminalizing drug use without pushing fake news about it being safe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pancake 09/25/19 9:52:35 PM #42:	wake up!! when you have something to back up your claim i want you to post it, alright? --- https://i.imgtc.com/wKgp7al.gif <cite>Pancake posted [p:927950848] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>wake up!! when you have something to back up your claim i want you to post it, alright?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 09/25/19 9:53:37 PM #43:	billcom6 posted... Bootleg TCH vapes kill 8 people. "Let's ban flavored nicotine vapes!" Pretty much this. The motivation and the justification do not match up here, which reeks of governmental / media ineptitude at best and conspiracy at worst. And like I said before, vaping is an easy target in which people without a vested interest in it won't read past the headlines. Even if vaping itself turns out to be the health crisis everyone's making it out to be, this is being done for all the wrong reasons. --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:927950888] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote>Bootleg TCH vapes kill 8 people. "Let's ban flavored nicotine vapes!"</quote> Pretty much this. The motivation and the justification do not match up here, which reeks of governmental / media ineptitude at best and conspiracy at worst. And like I said before, vaping is an easy target in which people without a vested interest in it won't read past the headlines. Even if vaping itself turns out to be the health crisis everyone's making it out to be, this is being done for all the wrong reasons.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MelzezDoor 09/25/19 9:55:13 PM #44:	codey posted... Most of the big vape companies are owned by tobacco companies, they aren't trying to get it banned. Under the same impression as tc and thought about this but haven't seen any with ownership/majority share in any vaping companies. <cite>MelzezDoor posted [p:927950966] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>codey posted...</cite> <quote>Most of the big vape companies are owned by tobacco companies, they aren't trying to get it banned. </quote> Under the same impression as tc and thought about this but haven't seen any with ownership/majority share in any vaping companies.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/26/19 11:37:52 AM #45:	MelzezDoor posted... Under the same impression as tc and thought about this but haven't seen any with ownership/majority share in any vaping companies. Juul isn't entirely owned by tobacco companies. They acquired like 35% of it worth a hefty 12.8 billion. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927971585] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>MelzezDoor posted... </cite> <quote>Under the same impression as tc and thought about this but haven't seen any with ownership/majority share in any vaping companies.</quote> Juul isn't entirely owned by tobacco companies. They acquired like 35% of it worth a hefty 12.8 billion. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Pukelid 09/26/19 11:55:47 AM #46:	the thing i dont understand re this topic is why is the brony of all people acting condescending and not using the quote button, therefore gumming up the flow of conversation --- Hairistotle <cite>Pukelid posted [p:927972388] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>the thing i dont understand re this topic is why is the brony of all people acting condescending and not using the quote button, therefore gumming up the flow of conversation</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
masterpug53 09/26/19 12:15:58 PM #47:	Pancake posted... wake up!! when you have something to back up your claim i want you to post it, alright? Neither side of this argument bears the burden of proof, since vaping is still largely new and untested. The only proof present is that these deaths and illnesses are the result of aftermarket products, which is both a poor excuse for a ban, and is a problem that a ban wouldn't fix. Your motivation here is 'well, vaping is probably bad for you anyway, so what's the harm in banning it?' The harm is that a ban will either push vapers into black-market alternatives (which are proven to be bad for you), or back into regular cigarettes (which are also proven to be bad for you). --- Simple questions deserve long-winded answers that no one will bother to read. <cite>masterpug53 posted [p:927973311] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>Pancake posted...</cite> <quote>wake up!! when you have something to back up your claim i want you to post it, alright?</quote> Neither side of this argument bears the burden of proof, since vaping is still largely new and untested. The only proof present is that these deaths and illnesses are the result of aftermarket products, which is both a poor excuse for a ban, and is a problem that a ban wouldn't fix. Your motivation here is 'well, vaping is probably bad for you anyway, so what's the harm in banning it?' The harm is that a ban will either push vapers into black-market alternatives (which are proven to be bad for you), or back into regular cigarettes (which are also proven to be bad for you).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 09/26/19 12:18:59 PM #48:	We'll know how safe vaping is in a good 20-30 years --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:927973447] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>We'll know how safe vaping is in a good 20-30 years</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
KINDERFELD 09/26/19 7:29:17 PM #49:	What Americans need to be asking themselves is, why in a world where folks are vaping globally, are there only vape related deaths in America. Is there some unique interaction between vaping and our air of freedom or is it pure bullshit being fabricated by the government and CDC. --- the polyfilla way look strong in the weakness of the gaps <cite>KINDERFELD posted [p:927991978] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>What Americans need to be asking themselves is, why in a world where folks are vaping globally, are there only vape related deaths in America. Is there some unique interaction between vaping and our air of freedom or is it pure bullshit being fabricated by the government and CDC. </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
HBOSS 09/26/19 7:33:06 PM #50:	arent the deaths from some underground experimental vape flavor or something? the deaths from that got all the attention for AN ENTIRE VAPING INDUSTRY right? --- You don't stop playing because you grow old, You grow old because you stop playing <cite>HBOSS posted [p:927992132] in It is path... [t:78041489]...</cite> <quote>arent the deaths from some underground experimental vape flavor or something? the deaths from that got all the attention for AN ENTIRE VAPING INDUSTRY right? </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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