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LightningAce11
09/27/19 11:40:01 PM
#151:


The law should really be harsher on people in authority. Like, double the sentence a citizen would get harsh.
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Kastrada
09/28/19 12:20:46 AM
#152:


DanHaren2019 posted...
Imagine if it was a black cop shooting a white woman


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond

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St0rmFury
09/28/19 1:47:45 AM
#153:


Thanks for the updates TC.

Are you a law practitioner by any chance?
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Mystery_Mission
09/28/19 2:16:05 AM
#154:


bitch needs to rot in prison the rest of her life. absolute vile scum.
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DanHaren2019
09/28/19 7:40:22 AM
#155:


Kastrada posted...
DanHaren2019 posted...
Imagine if it was a black cop shooting a white woman


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Justine_Damond


Noor was convicted of third-degree murder and manslaughter, but acquitted of intentional second-degree murder.[4] In June 2019, Noor was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison.[5]

Lets see what happens to guyger
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brandunh11
09/28/19 7:46:25 AM
#156:


St0rmFury posted...
Thanks for the updates TC.

Are you a law practitioner by any chance?


No problem. And no, I dont work in law at all. Im just really interested in this case because it happened in Dallas where Ive lived my whole life. Also I believe the jurys decision will set an extremely important precedent. Theyre essentially voting on whether its ok for a cop to be 100% wrong about everything, shoot you, and still get off without consequences. The defense is really testing the limits of the police officer feared for their life argument.

I have some hope because there was a recent case in Dallas county in which a police officer killed a teenager riding in the passenger side of a car. The officer literally lied about everything (details in court opposed his initial documentation of the incident) and his own partner had to testify against him in order to get that conviction.

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HBKick18
09/28/19 7:57:07 AM
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Good to see the prosecution going all out on this idiot
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Twin3Turbo
09/28/19 8:04:51 AM
#158:


The Prosecutor dug in her ass. Dude is doing a bang up job making her look like an incompetent idiot. I still have doubts as to whether she will see any time though.

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Twin3Turbo
09/28/19 8:08:44 AM
#159:


DanHaren2019 posted...
Noor was convicted of third-degree murder and manslaughter, but acquitted of intentional second-degree murder.[4] In June 2019, Noor was sentenced to 12.5 years in prison.[5]

Lets see what happens to guyger
Lol so this dude actually got sentenced. Interesting

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brandunh11
09/28/19 8:30:16 AM
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One detail I forgot to mention regarding her relationship with Martin Rivera (her partner). So, during the defense's interview with her, it came out that he was actually married. Amber claims that she stopped their sexual relationship in December 2017, nine months before the shooting incident. When asked why she ended the sexual part of their relationship, her response was because he was married and she knew it was morally wrong, it made her feel bad, and the relationship wasn't going anywhere. It's hard to believe that they actually stopped having sex though because there are tons of sexually explicit texts and snap chats between the two of them during the "off" period. This includes tons of messages sent and received on the day of the incident, many were within minutes of her shooting Botham. The prosecution said something to the effect of "So your moral code is perfectly fine with sexual banter with a married man and sending nude photographs, but stops just short of sex?" To which she replied "yes". He then went on to note that she went right back to sexting with Martin Rivera just two days after the shooting.

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brandunh11
09/28/19 11:19:57 AM
#161:


FYI Day 6 of the trial started at 9AM.

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cjsdowg
09/28/19 11:24:35 AM
#162:


Good lord .. how there "expert" says it was Inattentional blindness for the reason that the Amber testimony doesn't line up with there explanation of what happened.

See you people who defend the cops all the time. Complain at those people who even question them. You brought this to the American, you have embolden them break in our homes gun us down and then say it was use who was the treat. That is something one would expect in fucking Iran not America.
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CrazyandLazy
09/28/19 11:34:40 AM
#163:


Fony posted...
My friend was killed by a cop walking around his building with a gun drawn for no reason just going to the store to feed his baby. That cop get fired with no jail time and he was still in his probation period AND non white. This woman is going home free, probably a suspension or desk duty is possible.


Yup. After about 15 or so, full pension and living the good Florida life.
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KillerKhan420
09/28/19 11:37:59 AM
#164:


cjsdowg posted...
Good lord .. how there "expert" says it was Inattentional blindness for the reason that the Amber testimony doesn't line up with there explanation of what happened.

See you people who defend the cops all the time. Complain at those people who even question them. You brought this to the American, you have embolden them break in our homes gun us down and then say it was use who was the treat. That is something one would expect in fucking Iran not America.


Quit it, they found MARIJUANA in his apartment and who knows what he could.of done under the influence. I think guyger probably smelled it and knew she was in the presence of a criminal and reacted the only way she knew how.
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Twin3Turbo
09/28/19 12:27:17 PM
#165:


KillerKhan420 posted...
Quit it, they found MARIJUANA in his apartment and who knows what he could.of done under the influence. I think guyger probably smelled it and knew she was in the presence of a criminal and reacted the only way she knew how.
Cant tell if trolling or serious but given whos posting it......

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Tony_Biggie_Pun
09/28/19 12:55:02 PM
#166:


Killer Klansman pushing his agenda I see
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spudger
09/28/19 12:56:57 PM
#167:


Tony_Biggie_Pun posted...
Killer Klansman pushing his agenda I see

i marked him
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Zikten
09/28/19 12:58:09 PM
#168:


why is a guy with 420 in his name, shit talking a pot smoker?
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Ruvan22
09/28/19 1:08:45 PM
#169:


Fony posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
Fony posted...
My friend was killed by a cop walking around his building with a gun drawn for no reason just going to the store to feed his baby. That cop get fired with no jail time and he was still in his probation period AND non white. This woman is going home free, probably a suspension or desk duty is possible.
Was that the one with that Asian cop that killed the guy that just walked out of his apartment?


Yes.


What was the story? Sorry don't remember the thread here..
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Tony_Biggie_Pun
09/28/19 1:18:23 PM
#170:


Zikten posted...
why is a guy with 420 in his name, shit talking a pot smoker?


He makes no sense he just exposed himself
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Alexanaxela
09/28/19 1:21:49 PM
#171:


new fact! Amber guyger claims jean botham was coming at her and she yelled "SHOW ME YOUR HANDS!" before killing him

apparently no one else heard this loud command and jean botham's shorts didn't even have any pockets. So i guess he was coming at her sideways with one arm obscured or maybe with his hands behind his back. Or maybe his hands were obscured behind his bowl of ice cream he was eating
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spudger
09/28/19 1:23:47 PM
#172:


Alexanaxela posted...
new fact! Amber guyger claims jean botham was coming at her and she yelled "SHOW ME YOUR HANDS!" before killing him

apparently no one else heard this loud command and jean botham's shorts didn't even have any pockets. So i guess he was coming at her sideways with one arm obscured or maybe with his hands behind his back. Or maybe his hands were obscured behind his bowl of ice cream he was eating

shes just lying now, trying to save her privileged ass.

and how would any of that even matter (playing devils advocate here) she's still in another persons home illegally.
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Bio1590
09/28/19 1:23:48 PM
#173:


I'm pretty sure he was being sarcastic but

Twin3Turbo posted...
Cant tell if trolling or serious but given whos posting it......

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Mr_Karate_II
09/28/19 1:29:55 PM
#174:


Hopefully she gets life in prison. She just sounds so damn incompetent, like how was she able to become a cop if she's that fucking stupid?
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Zikten
09/28/19 1:45:12 PM
#175:


Mr_Karate_II posted...
Hopefully she gets life in prison

according to CNN that's what she might get if found guilty
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Zikten
09/28/19 1:45:52 PM
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Barber102
09/28/19 1:52:59 PM
#177:


To quote donald trump for the first time ever. Lock her up, lock her up!
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Twin3Turbo
09/28/19 5:03:35 PM
#179:


Im legit wondering if they colored her hair blonde for the dont lock me up! Im a cute blonde ditzy white girl effect. Her hair was brown Im her mugshot.

And good lord, she looks like a 45 year old woman

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brandunh11
09/28/19 5:35:29 PM
#180:


Twin3Turbo posted...
Im legit wondering if they colored her hair blonde for the dont lock me up! Im a cute blonde ditzy white girl effect. Her hair was brown Im her mugshot.

And good lord, she looks like a 45 year old woman


Yeah. They tried to make her as white and blonde as possible. On the stand she came across as meek, harmless, and confused. The cherry on top was the crying. None of that was an accident.

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DarkRoast
09/28/19 5:37:45 PM
#181:


Needs to be at least manslaughter. Gotta prove intent for murder, which would be kinda hard to do in this case.

But if she did get a murder conviction I wouldn't be surprised. What she did was unacceptable.

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brandunh11
09/28/19 6:02:39 PM
#183:


DarkRoast posted...
Needs to be at least manslaughter. Gotta prove intent for murder, which would be kinda hard to do in this case.

But if she did get a murder conviction I wouldn't be surprised. What she did was unacceptable.


The prosecution already got her to admit that she intended to kill him when she fired the bullets. They made sure to point that out when she said it. It doesnt need to be premeditated.

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DarkRoast
09/28/19 7:10:41 PM
#184:


brandunh11 posted...
The prosecution already got her to admit that she intended to kill him when she fired the bullets. They made sure to point that out when she said it. It doesnt need to be premeditated.


Nice.


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ScazarMeltex
09/28/19 7:12:59 PM
#185:


brandunh11 posted...
The prosecution already got her to admit that she intended to kill him when she fired the bullets. They made sure to point that out when she said it. It doesnt need to be premeditated.
Yeah she basically gave them what they needed to get a 2nd degree conviction when she said that.

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brandunh11
09/28/19 7:27:51 PM
#186:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Yeah she basically gave them what they needed to get a 2nd degree conviction when she said that.


In theory yeah. Nobody, including the defense, disputes that she intended to kill him. The conviction really relies on whether her mistake of fact makes the intention reasonable and therefore the killing justified.

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CADE FOSTER
09/28/19 7:31:48 PM
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CableZL
09/30/19 10:33:51 AM
#188:


They're really trying to use castle doctrine when she entered someone else's apartment and initiated the confrontation?

Ridiculous
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brandunh11
09/30/19 10:50:40 AM
#189:


CableZL posted...
They're really trying to use castle doctrine when she entered someone else's apartment and initiated the confrontation?

Ridiculous


Im stunned. The defense is actually invoking castle doctrine in a case where the defendant walked into someone elses home. Holy shit. How is this real life?

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spudger
09/30/19 11:12:46 AM
#190:


brandunh11 posted...
CableZL posted...
They're really trying to use castle doctrine when she entered someone else's apartment and initiated the confrontation?

Ridiculous


Im stunned. The defense is actually invoking castle doctrine in a case where the defendant walked into someone elses home. Holy shit. How is this real life?

if thats their tactic after the first week it just shows they know they are fucked and going for hail mary's
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Twin3Turbo
09/30/19 11:26:46 AM
#191:


So they are tying to set a precedent that not only can you shoot an intruder thats in your home, but you can shoot someone in their home too, as long as you think its your home, even though you missed about 10 clues that point to the home not being your home?

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Bio1590
09/30/19 12:07:15 PM
#192:


Someone told the Defense that bringing up Castle Doctrine would just be flipped on them with the Prosecution bringing up that Botham had the exact same right except it was more valid because it was actually his apartment, right?

There's dumb arguments and then there's...this.
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Zikten
09/30/19 12:43:11 PM
#193:


I'm glad the cop's defense team is so dumb. seems she will go to prison
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spudger
09/30/19 12:44:31 PM
#194:


Bio1590 posted...
Someone told the Defense that bringing up Castle Doctrine would just be flipped on them with the Prosecution bringing up that Botham had the exact same right except it was more valid because it was actually his apartment, right?

absolutely. cop or not, they intrude on your home then you can shoot to kill.
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CableZL
09/30/19 1:48:46 PM
#195:


"She didn't consider the fact that it could have been a maintenance person inside" - GREAT point
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cjsdowg
09/30/19 3:36:12 PM
#196:


how in the ever loving fuck are you going to claim the Castle Doctrine in someone's else castle .
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DarkRoast
09/30/19 3:39:06 PM
#197:


This crime is not complicated, and only people with agendas think otherwise imo.

The bottom line is she entered someone else's home and shot them.
Whether or not it was premeditated or she actually thought she was in her own home really just determines if it's manslaughter or murder.

But anyone who thinks she should get off with a not guilty verdict has some kind of agenda.


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Alexanaxela
09/30/19 3:52:03 PM
#198:


DarkRoast posted...
This crime is not complicated, and only people with agendas think otherwise imo.

The bottom line is she entered someone else's home and shot them.
Whether or not it was premeditated or she actually thought she was in her own home really just determines if it's manslaughter or murder.

But anyone who thinks she should get off with a not guilty verdict has some kind of agenda.


That would be texas ranger david armstrong, and probably every other cop in america, cause i sure haven't heard a single fucking cop condemn her for what she did and claim she needs to be in jail
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Hanky_Bannister
09/30/19 3:57:36 PM
#199:


Alexanaxela posted...
DarkRoast posted...
This crime is not complicated, and only people with agendas think otherwise imo.

The bottom line is she entered someone else's home and shot them.
Whether or not it was premeditated or she actually thought she was in her own home really just determines if it's manslaughter or murder.

But anyone who thinks she should get off with a not guilty verdict has some kind of agenda.


That would be texas ranger david armstrong, and probably every other cop in america, cause i sure haven't heard a single fucking cop condemn her for what she did and claim she needs to be in jail

this so hard.

this "no snitches" gang member mentality that cops have is disgusting.
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brandunh11
09/30/19 4:36:24 PM
#200:


Alexanaxela posted...
That would be texas ranger david armstrong, and probably every other cop in america, cause i sure haven't heard a single fucking cop condemn her for what she did and claim she needs to be in jail


There needs to be an investigation into whether Sgt Armstrong is fit to do his job because there seems to be a massive disconnect between facts and conclusions where hes concerned,

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DarkRoast
09/30/19 5:14:45 PM
#201:


How hard is it to realize that you shouldn't be allowed to enter someone else's home and shoot them, even if you're confused

Status as a cop should have no bearing on how "illegal" or "justified" this is. You have a right to not be murdered in your own home.

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