Current Events > Do you think the US response to 9/11 will be looked back on kindly?

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Both politically, cultural and military changes that have happened as both a direct and indirect consequence of the attack itself and subsequent war on terror.

In 100 years do you think people will look back at the years and decades following 9\11 and think the US was better for the changes and actions that occurred?
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I mean we already look back on it negatively and a major sacrifice of our freedom

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Its gonna be looked at as purely political and corrupt. Bush and company felt like they needed to take swift action to make themselves seem tough for political reasons. So they fabricated evidence to justify destroying 2 countries. They also saw this as an area for massive financial gain in the form of military contractors and oil. I'm sure Cheney made millions from everything.

It'll be looked back on horribly.

We basically let the terrorists for no reason, gave up our way of life, fell into fear, gave up a lot of freedoms, spent billions plunging us further into debt, killed thousands of innocent people, achieved fuck all.

It's sort of like Tekken Tag where if Devil fires his laser beams at Jack 2 then Jack 2 responds by going nuts and waving his arms around like a lunatic while screaming uncontrolably..

That's how people will look back on this.

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Absolutely not.
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If we had done absolutely nothing in response, things probably would be better off.
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The influx of trash patriotic country music wasn't looked at too kindly at the time. Plus, all of that "support our troops" was pretty garbage. Just another way to trick people into supporting the war.
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This will never be forgotten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGcCI9ByWw" data-time="

At that time we really were united as a nation. This is the epitome of it IMO.
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Antifar posted...

If we had done absolutely nothing in response, things probably would be better off.

Yeah, we really screwed the pooch on it
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Given the response to the iraq war at the time, no.
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Antifar posted...

If we had done absolutely nothing in response, things probably would be better off.

We couldnt do nothing thats insane. Even if we know now that the reports were false, if Afganistan did have chemical or, god forbid, nuclear weaponry and those got into terrorist hands a lot more innocent people would die.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

It'll be looked back on horribly.

We basically let the terrorists for no reason, gave up our way of life, fell into fear, gave up a lot of freedoms, spent billions plunging us further into debt, killed thousands of innocent people, achieved fuck all.

It's sort of like Tekken Tag where if Devil fires his laser beams at Jack 2 then Jack 2 responds by going nuts and waving his arms around like a lunatic while screaming uncontrolably..

That's how people will look back on this.

I agree but lol @ that analogy

Duncanwii posted...

Antifar posted...

If we had done absolutely nothing in response, things probably would be better off.

We couldnt do nothing thats insane. Even if we know now that the reports were false, if Afganistan did have chemical or, god forbid, nuclear weaponry and those got into terrorist hands a lot more innocent people would die.

We didn't go into Afghanistan because of the threat of Chemical Weapons. We went into Afghanistan because of the claimed link between Bin Laden and the Taliban and that they were supporting \ hiding him.

Ironic that it was Pakistan where he was eventually found.
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Just to add a second question to this topic. Do people feel it's a coincidence that the two countries we put boots on the ground, Iraq and Afghanistan, are on either side of Iran, with whom tensions seem to be rising?

It might be a coincidence, but if you were going to go to war in Iran it gives you a pretty big strategic advantage to have the means to attack it from both ends at the same time.


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Crepes posted...

Just to add a second question to this topic. Do people feel it's a coincidence that the two countries we put boots on the ground, Iraq and Afghanistan, are on either side of Iran, with whom tensions seem to be rising?

It might be a coincidence, but if you were going to go to war in Iran it gives you a pretty big strategic advantage to have the means to attack it from both ends at the same time.

War with Iran will never happen so long as Russia is protecting them.
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Crepes posted...

Just to add a second question to this topic. Do people feel it's a coincidence that the two countries we put boots on the ground, Iraq and Afghanistan, are on either side of Iran, with whom tensions seem to be rising?

It might be a coincidence, but if you were going to go to war in Iran it gives you a pretty big strategic advantage to have the means to attack it from both ends at the same time.

Well the US generally does what Israel and Saudia Arabia want, and both of those countries hate Iran. Saudi Arabia did 9/11 but lets ignore that.

That map is not accurate. Iran is stable. Syria is unstable.

Not only that, having some US forces in Iraq and Afghanistan are not really that helpful at all for invading Iran

This video will help to explain why:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCuoj5Dz6VI" data-time="

You can't just march into Iran and take the fucker over.

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DanHaren2019 posted...

That map is not accurate. Iran is stable. Syria is unstable.

Ignore the labels. I only got it for the geography.
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The terrorist have mentally broken us after 9/11.
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We never forgot

At least, the patriotic ones didnt
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No it won't but after 9/11 America could of invaded anywhere and feel justified about it. The whole spiel that Colin Powell did about Iraq effectively ended his political career.
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We had chance, even with the Pat. act we had a chance of coming out better afterwards. But a few men in power wanted to go to war with Iraq and he has lead to more terror around the fucking world.

Fucking Iran, condemned the attack on governmental level, their soccer team did moment of silence for us, random people held vigils . Then we call them evil and attacked a nation that had NOTHING to do with the attacks on 9/11. Sending people with the country to start fighting each other and getting America's allies even out oldest ally France to complain about us.

9/11 was bad, but we had the chance to chance the world for the better because of it, and Americans chose to go the other way.
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