Current Events > Why isn't Trump respectful of the contributions that immigrants make?

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What would this country be without immigrants?
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Because donald trump is a flaccid flatulent fuckhead
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Machete posted...

Because donald trump is a flaccid flatulent fuckhead

Imagine importing your wife just for your dick to go out of service.
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Machete posted...

Because donald trump is a flaccid flatulent FAT fuckhead

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Now now, he respects the contributions of some immigrants. Namely, the white ones. He shits on all the others because hes a raging racist.
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Spooking posted...

He is. Illegal aliens are a different story, however.

Well

0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

Now now, he respects the contributions of some immigrants. Namely, the white ones. He shits on all the others because hes a raging racist.

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You really don't have to logic this out. There's not gonna be some chart or factoid you can drop to make Trump or his supporters say "ah, actually I was wrong about that whole immigration thing."
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Antifar posted...

You really don't have to logic this out. There's not gonna be some chart or factoid you can drop to make Trump or his supporters say "ah, actually I was wrong about that whole immigration thing."

>_>
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Why do people purposely say immigrants instead of illegal immigrants.
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Immigrants make wonderful contributions. Illegal immigrants are criminals.
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ColdOne666 posted...

Immigrants make wonderful contributions. Illegal immigrants are criminals.

Criminals? Not really.
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ColdOne666 posted...

Illegal immigrants are criminals.

We're talking about Donald Trump.
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YoshitoKikuchi posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

Immigrants make wonderful contributions. Illegal immigrants are criminals.

Criminals? Not really.

In your opinion.
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shockthemonkey posted...

lilJoe457 posted...

Why do people purposely say immigrants instead of illegal immigrants.

lol

YoshitoKikuchi posted...

What would this country be without immigrants?

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The immigration argument stopped being about illegal immigration long ago. The Republican party is targeting immigration period. Actual criminals will likely never be under any threat of deportation.
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ColdOne666 posted...

Immigrants make wonderful contributions. Illegal immigrants are criminals.

Hell the legal immigrants I work with don't even like illegals coming in and taking all the shit they worked hard for and the life they built up.

I mean one can't expect dibs with no effort if they just slide up into someone else's country.
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

Immigrants make wonderful contributions. Illegal immigrants are criminals.

Hell the legal immigrants I work with don't even like illegals coming in and taking all the shit they worked hard for and the life they built up.

I mean one can't expect dibs with no effort if they just slide up into someone else's country.

They do it because they're desperate, not because they're just lazy.
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LordRazziel posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

Immigrants make wonderful contributions. Illegal immigrants are criminals.

Hell the legal immigrants I work with don't even like illegals coming in and taking all the shit they worked hard for and the life they built up.

I mean one can't expect dibs with no effort if they just slide up into someone else's country.

They do it because they're desperate, not because they're just lazy.

Then they should fight back and take back their own home.

Even if that means being as ruthless as the criminals one is fighting.

I mean we have enough problems with fighting our own crazy people.

More looters, bangers and the likes isn't helping.

Like where would they go next when things get worse here ?

Canada, Greenland, Nova Scotia ?
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lilJoe457 posted...

Why do people purposely say immigrants instead of illegal immigrants.

It's to help them control the narrative by deluding facts. Very common tactic on each side.

Illegal sounds worse than undocumented. Undocumented sounds worse than migrate.

To an uninformed or easily manipulated readers / viewers using the term immigrant to describe an illegal isn't technically wrong but it is intentionally misleading to provide more sympathy or to drive the narrative to something else.

Anyone intentionally using terms like that know exactly what they are doing. Very disingenuous.
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Spooking posted...

He is. Illegal aliens are a different story, however.

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Bossdog421 posted...

lilJoe457 posted...

Why do people purposely say immigrants instead of illegal immigrants.

It's to help them control the narrative by deluding facts. Very common tactic on each side.

Illegal sounds worse than undocumented. Undocumented sounds worse than migrate.

To an uninformed or easily manipulated readers / viewers using the term immigrant to describe an illegal isn't technically wrong but it is intentionally misleading to provide more sympathy or to drive the narrative to something else.

Anyone intentionally using terms like that know exactly what they are doing. Very disingenuous.

Describing a human being as "an illegal" is gross, dude.
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Antifar posted...

Bossdog421 posted...

lilJoe457 posted...

Why do people purposely say immigrants instead of illegal immigrants.

It's to help them control the narrative by deluding facts. Very common tactic on each side.

Illegal sounds worse than undocumented. Undocumented sounds worse than migrate.

To an uninformed or easily manipulated readers / viewers using the term immigrant to describe an illegal isn't technically wrong but it is intentionally misleading to provide more sympathy or to drive the narrative to something else.

Anyone intentionally using terms like that know exactly what they are doing. Very disingenuous.

Describing a human being as "an illegal" is gross, dude.

Which leads to the second way liberals try to control the narrative. Reduce the topic to make someone else sound bad.

Also I didnt describe a human as an illegal. It was obviously me using the tag word I was disdussing that is intentionally left out of the topic. They are actually illegal immigrants. Someone who migrates unlawfully.

Divert! Throw back ridiculous arguments! Poke at someone else's character! Trying to manipulate others is whats gross. With the amount of misleading content you post you really do seem like someone that is being paid to sow discord.
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Bossdog421 posted...

With the amount of misleading content you post you really do seem like someone that is being paid to sow discord.

Bossdog421 posted...

Divert! Throw back ridiculous arguments! Poke at someone else's character!

Anyways, you (or anyone else, really) would never refer to, say, someone who committed fraud or wage theft as "an illegal." No one describes Martha Stewart as "an illegal" for insider trading. We should stop to consider the ways in which our use of language reflects attitudes towards certain groups of people, and why only this particular violation of the law has earned such a label. The law itself just talks about "improper entry," or sometimes "unlawful entry."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1911-8-usc-1325-unlawful-entry-failure-depart-fleeing-immigration

And a large chunk of undocumented immigrants haven't even committed that offense; they've overstayed their visas, which is a civil, not criminal, offense.

What's the justification for referring to this group of people as "illegals" as opposed to any other group of offenders?
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he wants the good old days of minorities being subservient to white people who soar off the backs of the downtrodden

Referring to illegal immigrants as "illegals" was always a form of statist political correctness. In truth, they're just people like everyone else, and efforts to prevent them from going from place to place are just as callous and vicious as any other method of imprisonment, with no real regard for the harm or good they can do, because that isn't the real offense.
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PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

LordRazziel posted...

PrettyBoyFloyd posted...

ColdOne666 posted...

Immigrants make wonderful contributions. Illegal immigrants are criminals.

Hell the legal immigrants I work with don't even like illegals coming in and taking all the shit they worked hard for and the life they built up.

I mean one can't expect dibs with no effort if they just slide up into someone else's country.

They do it because they're desperate, not because they're just lazy.

Then they should fight back and take back their own home.

Even if that means being as ruthless as the criminals one is fighting.

I mean we have enough problems with fighting our own crazy people.

More looters, bangers and the likes isn't helping.

Like where would they go next when things get worse here ?

Canada, Greenland, Nova Scotia ?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GPEMx8dTbY" data-time="
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I like how they keep bringing up illegal immigrants even though sanctuary seekers are getting tossed in along with the ones following a coyote.

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antfair posted...

Bossdog421 posted...

With the amount of misleading content you post you really do seem like someone that is being paid to sow discord.

Bossdog421 posted...

Divert! Throw back ridiculous arguments! Poke at someone else's character!

Anyways, you (or anyone else, really) would never refer to, say, someone who committed fraud or wage theft as "an illegal." No one describes Martha Stewart as "an illegal" for insider trading. We should stop to consider the ways in which our use of language reflects attitudes towards certain groups of people, and why only this particular violation of the law has earned such a label. The law itself just talks about "improper entry," or sometimes "unlawful entry."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1911-8-usc-1325-unlawful-entry-failure-depart-fleeing-immigration

And a large chunk of undocumented immigrants haven't even committed that offense; they've overstayed their visas, which is a civil, not criminal, offense.

What's the justification for referring to this group of people as "illegals" as opposed to any other group of offenders?

@Bossdog421 *crickets*
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Because he's a racist!
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...

antfair posted...

Bossdog421 posted...

With the amount of misleading content you post you really do seem like someone that is being paid to sow discord.

Bossdog421 posted...

Divert! Throw back ridiculous arguments! Poke at someone else's character!

Anyways, you (or anyone else, really) would never refer to, say, someone who committed fraud or wage theft as "an illegal." No one describes Martha Stewart as "an illegal" for insider trading. We should stop to consider the ways in which our use of language reflects attitudes towards certain groups of people, and why only this particular violation of the law has earned such a label. The law itself just talks about "improper entry," or sometimes "unlawful entry."

https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325
https://www.justice.gov/jm/criminal-resource-manual-1911-8-usc-1325-unlawful-entry-failure-depart-fleeing-immigration

And a large chunk of undocumented immigrants haven't even committed that offense; they've overstayed their visas, which is a civil, not criminal, offense.

What's the justification for referring to this group of people as "illegals" as opposed to any other group of offenders?

@Bossdog421 *crickets*

Yup crickets while i was sleeping.

The more generalized term for those mentioned would just be criminals. The term illegal aliens / illegal immigrants has been around for a long time. It's a term describing their status. It is also written directly into law that way. In the "Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986"

Title V: State Assistance for Incarceration Costs of Illegal Aliens and Certain Cuban Nationals - Directs the Attorney General to reimburse States for the costs incurred in incarcerating certain illegal aliens and Cuban nationals convicted of felonies. Authorizes appropriations.

So I agree we should stop using the term illegal immigrant because it was already a term that was used to force the narrative to fit an agenda. We should go back to the term illegal alien. It's got a better ring to it.

Jokes aside... Sorry it offends you but that's on you. We are not going to stop using it because the media brainwashed you into thinking it's offensive.
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Donnie doesn't mind illegal immigrants either. It's why he hires them for his resorts and married one.
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@Bossdog421 why do you hate people so much? Put yourself in others shoes.
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Shablagoo posted...

@Bossdog421 why do you hate people so much? Put yourself in others shoes.

I don't hate anyone.
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Bossdog421 posted...

The term illegal aliens / illegal immigrants has been around for a long time

There are a lot of terms that were in use for a long time that we rightly did away with.

Bossdog421 posted...

It's a term describing their status.

So is undocumented.
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Bossdog421 posted...

Shablagoo posted...

@Bossdog421 why do you hate people so much? Put yourself in others shoes.

I don't hate anyone.

Hate to break it to you but thats what youre doing.
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