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Omnislasher
07/30/19 10:36:13 PM
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nevermind Warren's complete disinterest in sparing a single thought for foreign policy. not concerned!

the rapidly decaying empire marches on to self-destruction
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Omnislasher
07/30/19 10:36:20 PM
#205:


Mecha Sonic posted...
i like elizabeth warren

of course you do
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CruelBuffalo
07/30/19 10:37:11 PM
#206:


Omnislasher posted...
nevermind Warren's complete disinterest in sparing a single thought for foreign policy. not concerned!

the rapidly decaying empire marches on to self-destruction


Name the successful non-capitalist countries and you can define successful however you like
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ThyCorndog
07/30/19 10:38:21 PM
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so did anyone here have their imagination captured by tim ryan?
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iClockwork
07/30/19 10:38:28 PM
#209:


Omnislasher posted...
CruelBuffalo posted...
Omnislasher posted...
nevermind Warren's complete disinterest in sparing a single thought for foreign policy. not concerned!

the rapidly decaying empire marches on to self-destruction


Name the successful non-capitalist countries

you're an idiot

Show your intellectual superiority and name them then.
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Antifar
07/30/19 10:38:44 PM
#210:


Beto's going all in on winning Texas, huh?
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CruelBuffalo
07/30/19 10:38:56 PM
#211:


Omnislasher posted...
you're an idiot


Possibly. At least Im not ignorant.
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Antifar
07/30/19 10:40:09 PM
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"Reunites the Republican Party with its conscience" is the most unrealistic goal stated tonight.
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CruelBuffalo
07/30/19 10:40:43 PM
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Antifar posted...
"Reunites the Republican Party with its conscience" is the most unrealistic goal stated tonight.


Republicans will likely hold the senate
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mario masta
07/30/19 10:40:47 PM
#214:


Antifar posted...
Beto's going all in on winning Texas, huh?

He didn't even win Texas in his own race.
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Mecha Sonic
07/30/19 10:41:06 PM
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Antifar posted...
"Reunites the Republican Party with its conscience" is the most unrealistic goal stated tonight.

these candidates who tout bipartisanship and working across the aisle are a joke, the republican party will not work together, they need to be destroyed
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littlebro07
07/30/19 10:41:47 PM
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CruelBuffalo
07/30/19 10:41:48 PM
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Mecha Sonic posted...
these candidates who tout bipartisanship and working across the aisle are a joke, the republican party will not work together, they need to be destroyed


Ok. What should the president do if we have a GOP senate?
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Sexypwnstar
07/30/19 10:42:20 PM
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CruelBuffalo
07/30/19 10:44:16 PM
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I feel Elizabeth held her own from direct attacks and seemed reasonable. Bernie held his own and looked much better than the other night.

i honestly think the only one who is gonna jump in the polls is Warren buuuuuuuuuuuut 2nd night can change the story from all that
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Iodine
07/30/19 10:44:44 PM
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CruelBuffalo posted...
Mecha Sonic posted...
these candidates who tout bipartisanship and working across the aisle are a joke, the republican party will not work together, they need to be destroyed


Ok. What should the president do if we have a GOP senate?

Nothing
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DarthWendy
07/30/19 10:45:10 PM
#221:


littlebro07 posted...
What's going on

Bernie Sanders wants to take down Umbrella Corp.
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Antifar
07/30/19 10:46:17 PM
#222:


CruelBuffalo posted...
Mecha Sonic posted...
these candidates who tout bipartisanship and working across the aisle are a joke, the republican party will not work together, they need to be destroyed


Ok. What should the president do if we have a GOP senate?

Not pretend that congressional Republicans have any interest in cooperation.
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Mecha Sonic
07/30/19 10:46:55 PM
#223:


CruelBuffalo posted...
Ok. What should the president do if we have a GOP senate?


lots and lots of executive actions

push constitutional amendments on voting rights, even if they won't be passed

focus on foreign policy, renew alliances, renew climate change treaties and other treaties

go global thermonuclear war on the republican conference, hold rallies and communicate with the american people, the same way trump has

go all in on winning the senate in 2022, full court press
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CruelBuffalo
07/30/19 10:47:51 PM
#224:


Antifar posted...
Not pretend that congressional Republicans have any interest in cooperation.


Not an actual answer
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CruelBuffalo
07/30/19 10:48:10 PM
#225:


Mecha Sonic posted...
lots and lots of executive actions

push constitutional amendments on voting rights, even if they won't be passed

focus on foreign policy, renew alliances, renew climate change treaties and other treaties

go global thermonuclear war on the republican conference, hold rallies and communicate with the american people, the same way trump has

go all in on winning the senate in 2022, full court press


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ledbowman
07/30/19 10:49:58 PM
#226:


I guess Ronald mc bitch head will chime in shortly.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/30/19 10:50:04 PM
#227:


Warren's take on trade was straight out of Trump's mouth. We really are going back to the 1930s.
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The Great Muta 22
07/30/19 10:50:13 PM
#228:


mario masta posted...
He didn't even win Texas in his own race.


This is such an absurd attack on Beto being how close he came in comparison to basically all recent historical precedent and just common sense.

And I think Beto fucking blows, but to cite him losing a Senate race in Texas to an incumbent, even someone like Cruz, as a negative is fucking joke

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CruelBuffalo
07/30/19 10:52:07 PM
#229:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
This is such an absurd attack on Beto being how close he came in comparison to basically all recent historical precedent and just common sense.

And I think Beto fucking blows, but to cite him losing a Senate race in Texas to an incumbent, even someone like Cruz, as a negative is fucking joke


This. Some of you guys really need chill lol
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Antifar
07/30/19 10:56:03 PM
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The Great Muta 22 posted...
And I think Beto fucking blows, but to cite him losing a Senate race in Texas to an incumbent, even someone like Cruz, as a negative is fucking joke

Normally I would agree, but I think it's fair game when his closing message - at a debate in Michigan, no less - is that he can put Texas in play. That wasn't the first time he mentioned Texas' EV count tonight, either.
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ThyCorndog
07/30/19 10:59:08 PM
#231:


beto is playing 7d chess

he lost to cruz in texas on purpose so that he could say the 38 texas electoral votes are now in play and he's the one that can get them
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COVxy
07/30/19 11:00:04 PM
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Bernie isn't nearly as eloquent and convincing as the other more progressive candidates like Warren, I don't get his universal support.
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Omnislasher
07/30/19 11:00:20 PM
#233:


recognize that it's way past time to get in the streets by the tens of millions. look at what puerto rico did just because their governor sent offensive text messages.

the institutions have been intentionally broken and hollowed out by corporate malefactors. only the people standing up can in any way reverse it. as bernie himself repeatedly emphasizes. elizabeth warren's technocratic 'ethical capitalist' tinkering will leave you in the same place you were in after obama's tenure in 2016: ripe for an even bolder right-wing demagogue to motivate the disenfranchised, and next time it'll really be game over.
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ThyCorndog
07/30/19 11:02:07 PM
#234:


COVxy posted...
Bernie isn't nearly as eloquent and convincing as the other more progressive candidates like Warren, I don't get his universal support.

eloquent i'll give you but what's not convincing about him? he comes off as the most honest guy on stage every time. that's a big part of it. eloquence isn't that important to a lot of people
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konokonohamaru
07/30/19 11:05:25 PM
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Omnislasher posted...
recognize that it's way past time to get in the streets by the tens of millions. look at what puerto rico did just because their governor sent offensive text messages.

the institutions have been intentionally broken and hollowed out by corporate malefactors. only the people standing up can in any way reverse it. as bernie himself repeatedly emphasizes. elizabeth warren's technocratic 'ethical capitalist' tinkering will leave you in the same place you were in after obama's tenure in 2016: ripe for an even bolder right-wing demagogue to motivate the disenfranchised, and next time it'll really be game over.


Elizabeth Warren disgusts me. I actually agree with her on some of her policy ideas but I think lying about your ethnicity to advance your career is one of the lowest things you can do
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COVxy
07/30/19 11:05:27 PM
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ThyCorndog posted...
COVxy posted...
Bernie isn't nearly as eloquent and convincing as the other more progressive candidates like Warren, I don't get his universal support.

eloquent i'll give you but what's not convincing about him? he comes off as the most honest guy on stage every time. that's a big part of it. eloquence isn't that important to a lot of people


Because he's old and grandpa like?

I don't see him as seeming particularly more honest, on the face of it.
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Smashingpmkns
07/30/19 11:06:22 PM
#237:


Doom_Art posted...
Omnislasher posted...
bernie kicks the locked door open in 2016, no endorsement from cool calculated liz, and now she's ready to walk on through and capitalize on that hunger for the first female potus. sure, she won't beg or point it out. she has dignity and self-respect unlike hillary. but there is only one last chance for a real movement for change. anyone that knows, knows it's bernie.

Maybe Bernie ought to put effort into actually going into depth on those policies and shit?

Barry Goldwater ran for President and kicked the locked door open on his brand of conservatism but his movement was picked up by others in his party.

To act as though the political movement Bernie started can only continue with him and him alone is rather silly.


I mean he has gone into those policies if you really wanted to look into it instead of plugging your ears.
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Doom_Art
07/30/19 11:06:46 PM
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konokonohamaru posted...
Elizabeth Warren disgusts me. I actually agree with her on some of her policy ideas but I think lying about your ethnicity to advance your career is one of the lowest things you can do

I'm suspecting that you don't actually care about that as much as you would like others to think you do.
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Mecha Sonic
07/30/19 11:08:28 PM
#239:


i know a lot of ppl who say the native american thing is a show stopper
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-Ghetsis-
07/30/19 11:09:20 PM
#240:


Doom_Art posted...
konokonohamaru posted...
Elizabeth Warren disgusts me. I actually agree with her on some of her policy ideas but I think lying about your ethnicity to advance your career is one of the lowest things you can do

I'm suspecting that you don't actually care about that as much as you would like others to think you do.


clearly not
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konokonohamaru
07/30/19 11:10:20 PM
#241:


Doom_Art posted...
konokonohamaru posted...
Elizabeth Warren disgusts me. I actually agree with her on some of her policy ideas but I think lying about your ethnicity to advance your career is one of the lowest things you can do

I'm suspecting that you don't actually care about that as much as you would like others to think you do.

Why? I actually do care about it since as an Asian I know I could have gotten into better colleges if I had lied about my race
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COVxy
07/30/19 11:11:15 PM
#242:


konokonohamaru posted...
Doom_Art posted...
konokonohamaru posted...
Elizabeth Warren disgusts me. I actually agree with her on some of her policy ideas but I think lying about your ethnicity to advance your career is one of the lowest things you can do

I'm suspecting that you don't actually care about that as much as you would like others to think you do.

Why? I actually do care about it since as an Asian I know I could have gotten into better colleges if I had lied about my race


It's like a parody lol.
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Broseph_Stalin
07/30/19 11:11:24 PM
#243:


konokonohamaru posted...
Elizabeth Warren disgusts me. I actually agree with her on some of her policy ideas but I think lying about your ethnicity to advance your career is one of the lowest things you can do

I think trying to drum up hatred against Mexicans and Vietnamese people to gain political support a la Trump is a little worse but that's just me.
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The Great Muta 22
07/30/19 11:16:19 PM
#244:


Antifar posted...
Normally I would agree, but I think it's fair game when his closing message - at a debate in Michigan, no less - is that he can put Texas in play. That wasn't the first time he mentioned Texas' EV count tonight, either.


I think he can see the obvious writing on the wall that this just isn't going to happen for him and is attempting to pivot for the chance to get picked as VP for some of the others. Really that's the lane both him and Mayor Pete likely are both going for at this point, albeit with a bit of different strategies.

I'm not sure either of them actually get that nod, and it's really going to depend who wins the nomination for either of them to get named, and probably limited to like Harris(or MAYBE Warren but even that's hard to see), but I can understand the play on his behalf. Realistically both of them are more likely to be more serious contenders for nomination in like, 2028 than now, but I suppose it's never too early to get your name out there.

EDIT: This is the same reason I think, aside from the obvious connection of being in the same state, why Pete has been positioning himself against Pence and been trying to tap into the whole "I'm a real compassionate Christian" rhetoric. I have no idea if it'll actually work, but I can get the logic behind it.

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ThyCorndog
07/30/19 11:19:51 PM
#246:


Spooking posted...
Was Sanders or Warren ever asked what is different between the two of them tonight?

sort of. warren was asked if she refers to herself as a capitalist to differentiate herself from sanders
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darkprince45
07/30/19 11:26:22 PM
#247:


I missed it. Does anyone have the winners and losers

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Mecha Sonic
07/30/19 11:29:31 PM
#248:


darkprince45 posted...
I missed it. Does anyone have the winners and losers


winners: warren, bullock, marianne williamson
good: bernie
okay: buttigieg
meh: o'rourke, everyone else
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darkprince45
07/30/19 11:30:19 PM
#249:


Damn it beto

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Doom_Art
07/30/19 11:30:46 PM
#250:


In a few weeks:

"Beto O'Rourke enters 2020 Senate Race"
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Mecha Sonic
07/30/19 11:33:15 PM
#251:


Doom_Art posted...
In a few weeks:

"Beto O'Rourke enters 2020 Senate Race"


he's already qualified for the third debate, i think he will be in it for a good deal longer
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hockeybub89
07/30/19 11:34:33 PM
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Doom_Art
07/30/19 11:34:51 PM
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Mecha Sonic posted...
he's already qualified for the third debate, i think he will be in it for a good deal longer

If he's smart he'd get out now.
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