Current Events > Spider-Man going back to Sony; live-action Spider-Verse film starring Maguire

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r25
07/26/19 9:19:36 PM
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IIRC, the MCU deal is over.
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Allanon23
07/26/19 9:21:39 PM
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Nope.

https://www.screengeek.net/2019/07/10/spider-man-far-from-home-marvel-sony-deal/

Marvel gets one more since this one crossed $1 billion
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Duncanwii
07/26/19 9:21:52 PM
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Proof?
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assassingriskel
07/26/19 9:23:49 PM
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Spiderman could never go back to Sony since they never gave up the rights to begin with
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Skye Reynolds
07/26/19 9:24:13 PM
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As much as I begrudge what they did to Venom, it'd be worth having Spider-Man IV just to bring back Mary Jane Watson.
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divot1338
07/26/19 9:27:43 PM
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I think they should let Nick Cage do a Spiderman Noir movie.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/26/19 9:29:59 PM
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assassingriskel posted...
Spiderman could never go back to Sony since they never gave up the rights to begin with

They never gave up the rights. They just partnered with Marvel Studios.
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DoctorVader
07/26/19 9:30:00 PM
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The guy who voiced Miles wants a live action mixture for the sequel, but everything else is BS. Holland's deal has always been 6 movies even if it reverted back to Sony.
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creativerealms
07/26/19 9:37:25 PM
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McGuire was terrible as Spider-man. He didn't talk enough.
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Unsugarized_Foo
07/26/19 9:52:18 PM
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Does Sony get any kickback on this? If so its the easiest money they're gonna make
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Shablagoo
07/26/19 9:55:01 PM
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Spider-Verse is probably the best Spider-Man movie made to date.
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Makeveli_lives
07/26/19 9:55:19 PM
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Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Does Sony get any kickback on this? If so its the easiest money they're gonna make

Not really. They get the money from the Spiderman movies, marvel gets credit for it in addition to using Spiderman in their movies which increases sales for them. I think that's basically it.
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Proto_Spark
07/26/19 10:16:39 PM
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divot1338 posted...
I think they should let Nick Cage do a Spiderman Noir movie.


We also need a proper Spider-Ham movie.
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PatrickMahomes
07/26/19 10:17:30 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Spider-Verse is probably the best Spider-Man movie made to date.

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BLAKUboy
07/26/19 10:21:05 PM
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DoctorVader posted...
Holland's deal has always been 6 movies even if it reverted back to Sony.

Ugggh they better let Marvel keep him. Sony would fucking ruin Tom's Spidey.
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AeroFlash15
07/26/19 10:21:30 PM
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PatrickMahomes posted...
Shablagoo posted...
Spider-Verse is probably the best Spider-Man movie made to date.

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pikachupwnage
07/26/19 10:22:02 PM
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Makeveli_lives posted...
Unsugarized_Foo posted...
Does Sony get any kickback on this? If so its the easiest money they're gonna make

Not really. They get the money from the Spiderman movies, marvel gets credit for it in addition to using Spiderman in their movies which increases sales for them. I think that's basically it.


Marvel has the merchandise rights.

So a big MCU spiderman makes money for them even if they don't get a cent of the ticket sales.

Also helps get more people invested in MCU/avengers movies...
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Banjo2553
07/26/19 10:44:54 PM
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I dislike this whole thing with ownerships and stuff. Want the MCU to keep making films with Spidey without worry, I can't trust Sony to make a good Spider-Man film again.
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Solid Sonic
07/26/19 10:47:42 PM
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assassingriskel posted...
Spiderman could never go back to Sony since they never gave up the rights to begin with
Creative control could shift back.

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AlisLandale
07/26/19 10:53:18 PM
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I really just want Raimi and Maguire have one last hurrah. I dont care if its something weird like Spider-Man: Rein, or something completely original. I just loved the melancholy atmosphere of the Raimi films. They actually felt like I was watching a flawed person trying his best to balance his happiness and his responsibility, with a somewhat grounded take on the consequences of his actions.
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SONIC_305
07/26/19 10:56:29 PM
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AlisLandale posted...
I really just want Raimi and Maguire have one last hurrah. I dont care if its something weird like Spider-Man: Rein, or something completely original. I just loved the melancholy atmosphere of the Raimi films. They actually felt like I was watching a flawed person trying his best to balance his happiness and his responsibility, with a somewhat grounded take on the consequences of his actions.

This, really want spiderman 4 to happen really. Even Raimi just wanted to do another movie to end it in a good note.
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CE_gonna_CE
07/26/19 10:59:46 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Spider-Verse is the best Spider-Man movie made to date.

Fixed.
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Solid Sonic
07/26/19 11:01:32 PM
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CE_gonna_CE posted...


Fixed.
Should we ever have another live-action Spidey after that?

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ModLogic
07/26/19 11:04:45 PM
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toby was the best spiderman

now is a good time to reboot and do older spiderman dark and gritty
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Zack_Attackv1
07/26/19 11:06:28 PM
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creativerealms
07/27/19 1:23:29 AM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
As much as I begrudge what they did to Venom, it'd be worth having Spider-Man IV just to bring back Mary Jane Watson.

That wasn't even a good version of the character.

Really I want a real red head playing the actual Mary Jane.
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Skye Reynolds
07/27/19 2:28:50 AM
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I'll concede she wasn't the best version of the character, but it's better than having an original character with the same initials blocking her from appearing.

And Marvel hates Mary Jane Watson. They hate her status as a damsel in distress. They hate her status as a sex symbol. And they're probably still embarrassed over that figurine from years ago. And rather than fix any problems with the character, they're content to try and sweep her under the rug and act like she never existed.

But if you brought back Tobey Maguire, you'd pretty much have to bring back Kirsten Dunst. That brings back Mary Jane Watson. That gets people thinking about her. And the movie will clear up any problems it can. She'll be an older, more mature character. And she'll undoubtedly be more willing and able to stick up for herself.

To me it's worth it. It's not about a reunion or a sequel. It's about sustaining a character's legacy.
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gatorsPENSbucs
07/27/19 2:39:22 AM
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Shablagoo posted...
Spider-Verse is probably the best Spider-Man movie made to date.

Yessir

Just a great movie from beginning to end
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snowman9267
07/27/19 2:51:04 AM
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Wait so Holland might have to make Sony movies? lmao
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ultimate reaver
07/27/19 2:56:00 AM
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Thats a really long winded way of saying you dont care about the fact that she doesnt even sort of kind of act like the personality and characterization you are talking about conserving the legacy of and just want her to be a white girl with red hair

You -can- say that, youve made similar arguments in other treads so I dunno why it needs to be dressed up
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ledbowman
07/27/19 2:56:52 AM
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snowman9267 posted...
Wait so Holland might have to make Sony movies? lmao

He already is.
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Serious Cat
07/27/19 3:44:05 AM
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snowman9267 posted...
Wait so Holland might have to make Sony movies? lmao

Homecoming and Far From Home were both Sony movies even if they're canonically also part of the MCU. Sony had final creative control in both of those.
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Skye Reynolds
07/27/19 3:42:45 PM
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That's right. That's right. It was the producer of the universally loved Ghostbusters '16 who was in charge. I apologize for blaming Disney over how Mary Jane Watson turned out.
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creativerealms
07/27/19 6:11:28 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
I'll concede she wasn't the best version of the character, but it's better than having an original character with the same initials blocking her from appearing.

And Marvel hates Mary Jane Watson. They hate her status as a damsel in distress. They hate her status as a sex symbol. And they're probably still embarrassed over that figurine from years ago. And rather than fix any problems with the character, they're content to try and sweep her under the rug and act like she never existed.

But if you brought back Tobey Maguire, you'd pretty much have to bring back Kirsten Dunst. That brings back Mary Jane Watson. That gets people thinking about her. And the movie will clear up any problems it can. She'll be an older, more mature character. And she'll undoubtedly be more willing and able to stick up for herself.

To me it's worth it. It's not about a reunion or a sequel. It's about sustaining a character's legacy.

You know Marvel is hyping a Mary Jane comic right now? I don't think they hate her. They just hate the idea of marrying off Peter to her or anyone.

As for the movie honestly while I want a real Mary Jane (Spectacular Spider-Man will always have the best animated version) I like Michelle as a character. I won't call her MJ I refuse to but as an original character shes better then any other romance in a live action Spider-Man movie. Peter has had many girlfriends before Mary Jane she's just who he should end up with.

There is nothing stopping them from introducing Mary Jane later.
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TheRealDill2001
07/27/19 6:14:09 PM
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Shablagoo posted...
Spider-Verse is probably the best Spider-Man movie made to date.

1 = 3 > Homecoming > 2

I haven't seen any others yet.
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DeadBankerDream
07/27/19 6:15:14 PM
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What would Sony even do with Spider-man without Marvel involved?

Reboot it again?
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SauI_Goodman
07/27/19 6:16:27 PM
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Good grief. Copyrights really suck.
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SauI_Goodman
07/27/19 6:16:57 PM
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Actually it's not even the copyrights. It's the misuse of them.
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CE_gonna_CE
07/27/19 8:47:59 PM
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Solid Sonic posted...
CE_gonna_CE posted...


Fixed.
Should we ever have another live-action Spidey after that?

Well we definitely should have some more animated ones, tbh
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