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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:19:11 PM
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Jesus Christ. They couldnt have just made her her own unique character? We want the icons. Not this mopey, negative drain on screen time. I was so excited to watch this movie, but Peters classmates were ALL unlikeable. The weirdest thing is, I liked Flash the best out of all of them. Ned is just abysmal on screen. Hes the same exact person in real life, too. Awful wardrobe choices. The person in charge of wardrobe for the class needs to be let go. They dressed Zendaya like a giraffe the whole movie. Why does Peter even like her? Were never given a reason. He went from Liz to her. Total 180. Not even how he operates in the comics.

If you want to be diverse, make new characters. Thats why we have Miles, and look at how GREAT hes being received. Race bending should be a no-no. And if youre going to do it, do it well. This was too far in the other direction.
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MC_BatCommander
07/15/19 5:19:41 PM
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She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:20:18 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.
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Squall28
07/15/19 5:20:46 PM
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Flash is how a normal person behaves now. It's pretty sad. Fuck social media.
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MICHALCOLE
07/15/19 5:20:55 PM
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Completely different names, just has the same initials
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MC_BatCommander
07/15/19 5:21:27 PM
#6:


Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Is her name Mary Jane or is it not
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:21:56 PM
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MICHALCOLE posted...
Completely different names, just has the same initials


Which they use as her name throughout the movie.
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TetsuoS2
07/15/19 5:22:02 PM
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Saying they have different names is just dense, come on.

I like her anyway.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:22:50 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Is her name Mary Jane or is it not

Shes referred to as MJ, which is a piss poor homage to the iconic redhead that we love. They couldve named her anything else. But nope. Shes the MCUs version of MJ, which is bad.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:23:02 PM
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TetsuoS2 posted...
Saying they have different names is just dense, come on.

I like her anyway.


We are on Gamefaqs.
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boxington
07/15/19 5:23:34 PM
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I thought that Zendaya was great (and I liked their budding romance), and I liked Peter's classmates
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MC_BatCommander
07/15/19 5:23:43 PM
#12:


Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Is her name Mary Jane or is it not

Shes referred to as MJ, which is a piss poor homage to the iconic redhead that we love. They couldve named her anything else. But nope. Shes the MCUs version of MJ, which is bad.


So her name isn't Mary Jane
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:24:30 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Is her name Mary Jane or is it not

Shes referred to as MJ, which is a piss poor homage to the iconic redhead that we love. They couldve named her anything else. But nope. Shes the MCUs version of MJ, which is bad.


So her name isn't Mary Jane

TetsuoS2 posted...
Saying they have different names is just dense, come on.

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MC_BatCommander
07/15/19 5:25:32 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Is her name Mary Jane or is it not

Shes referred to as MJ, which is a piss poor homage to the iconic redhead that we love. They couldve named her anything else. But nope. Shes the MCUs version of MJ, which is bad.


So her name isn't Mary Jane

TetsuoS2 posted...
Saying they have different names is just dense, come on.


They do have different names tho
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cjsdowg
07/15/19 5:25:49 PM
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Deadpool_18 posted...
The weirdest thing is, I liked Flash the best out of all of them.


1. I too hated Ned...but think Flash was good character. I cheered when that motherfucker got KOed.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/15/19 5:26:16 PM
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We have no idea if there will be a Mary Jane later on in the MCU.

Youre crying over literally nothing.
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au_gold
07/15/19 5:26:23 PM
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Shes fine. Its refreshing to have a nihilistic love interest.
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Bass_X0
07/15/19 5:26:34 PM
#18:


MICHALCOLE posted...
Completely different names, just has the same initials


Michael Bay Bumblebee isnt 1980s cartoon Bumblebee.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:26:47 PM
#19:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
We have no idea if there will be a Mary Jane later on in the MCU.

Youre crying over literally nothing.


Yes, the odds of Marvel Studios introducing two MJs is so likely.

Think before you post.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:27:15 PM
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au_gold posted...
Shes fine. Its refreshing to have a nihilistic love interest.


Meh. Her nihilism is boring.
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MC_BatCommander
07/15/19 5:27:21 PM
#21:


Deadpool_18 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
We have no idea if there will be a Mary Jane later on in the MCU.

Youre crying over literally nothing.


Yes, the odds of Marvel Studios introducing two MJs is so likely.

Think before you post.


He said while complaining that a different character isn't a different character
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:28:06 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
We have no idea if there will be a Mary Jane later on in the MCU.

Youre crying over literally nothing.


Yes, the odds of Marvel Studios introducing two MJs is so likely.

Think before you post.


He said while complaining that a different character isn't a different character


Youve been needlessly instigating all topic. Goodbye.
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MC_BatCommander
07/15/19 5:28:49 PM
#23:


Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
We have no idea if there will be a Mary Jane later on in the MCU.

Youre crying over literally nothing.


Yes, the odds of Marvel Studios introducing two MJs is so likely.

Think before you post.


He said while complaining that a different character isn't a different character


Youve been needlessly instigating all topic. Goodbye.


Uh OK, goodbye?
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Gamerguymass
07/15/19 5:29:30 PM
#24:


Bitch please.

Ned is awesome. He has some of the best lines in the movie. I'm not a fan of them replacing redheaded MJ, apparently Hollywood hates redheaded females, but I'll admit this character in growing on me. Though I found it kind of weird that she is supposed to be this emo goth like chick that is really into death and gory shit, yet they had her wearing floral dresses in the movie.
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SailorGoon
07/15/19 5:29:38 PM
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Yeah I'm not a fan of her "reddit level woke conspiracy theory edgelord" personality. It wouldn't be so bad if they toned it down a bunch. The way they beat those cringe drawn out tropes over her character is too much for me. Then again, the uniqueness to the character that shines through that beats Kirsten Dunst just screaming and crying the entire movie.

Emma Stone has played the best love interest as far the films go. Gwen is miles better. I'd say that's just how it goes in general actually
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DezDroppedFreak
07/15/19 5:31:37 PM
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Ill be honest and say Im not a huge fan of the direction they went with MJ but I think it works for this portrayal of Spider-Man, so its a wash for me

As far as arguing if its Mary Jane or a different name,

Bruh come on lmao. They wouldnt use that moniker if they didnt intend for her to be the Mary Jane of this

Having a Gwen show up down the line would be more feasible than a real MJ
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:32:31 PM
#27:


Gamerguymass posted...
Bitch please.

Ned is awesome. He has some of the best lines in the movie. I'm not a fan of them replacing redheaded MJ, apparently Hollywood hates redheaded females, but I'll admit this character in growing on me. Though I found it kind of weird that she is supposed to be this emo goth like chick that is really into death and gory shit, yet they had her wearing floral dresses in the movie.


Ned is the cringiest substitute for Harry that I could imagine. They shouldve left his character with Miles. I followed the actor on Instagram for a bit. Hes the same exact person in real life. Horrible fashion sense. Bad humor. His two week girlfriend was pretty low effort comic relief.
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LightHawKnight
07/15/19 5:32:54 PM
#28:


Really hated her in HC, but actually kinda like her in FFH, still rather have a real MJ.
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LookANinja
07/15/19 5:32:56 PM
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I mean i can see OP's point. What's the purpose of having a character called MJ if she's not supposed to be Mary Jane? Why not just give her a different name altogether.

It's almost like Marvel is thinking "Well... We're not sure where we're going to go with this Spidey shit, we might never get the chance to introduce a true Mary Jane, but if we take a chick and call her MJ... Maybe we can just say that she was always the real Mary Jane all along.
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sktgamer_13dude
07/15/19 5:33:04 PM
#30:


Deadpool_18 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
We have no idea if there will be a Mary Jane later on in the MCU.

Youre crying over literally nothing.


Yes, the odds of Marvel Studios introducing two MJs is so likely.

Think before you post.

God forbid someone has the same initials in a movie.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:33:33 PM
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SailorGoon posted...
Yeah I'm not a fan of her "reddit level woke conspiracy theory edgelord" personality. It wouldn't be so bad if they toned it down a bunch. The way they beat those cringe drawn out tropes over her character is too much for me. Then again, the uniqueness to the character that shines through that beats Kirsten Dunst just screaming and crying the entire movie.

Emma Stone has played the best love interest as far the films go. Gwen is miles better. I'd say that's just how it goes in general actually


Oh Kirsten Dunst could be beaten by any subpar love interest. She was just....bleh. Im REALLY hoping that they introduce Gwen and have Peter ditch Michelle.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 5:34:04 PM
#32:


sktgamer_13dude posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
sktgamer_13dude posted...
We have no idea if there will be a Mary Jane later on in the MCU.

Youre crying over literally nothing.


Yes, the odds of Marvel Studios introducing two MJs is so likely.

Think before you post.

God forbid someone has the same initials in a movie.


Its like intentional ignorance is drawn to this subject.
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Blue_Inigo
07/15/19 5:39:06 PM
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LookANinja posted...
I mean i can see OP's point. What's the purpose of having a character called MJ if she's not supposed to be Mary Jane? Why not just give her a different name altogether.

The Thor in the MCU movies is pretty damn different from comics Thor and people love him. The Guardians are completely different. Spidey himself is pretty different. Cap is kinda different. They dont need to be exact replicas. It's ok to try new things with these characters
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Pogo_Marimo
07/15/19 5:58:42 PM
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I thought the "Dorky awkwardness" was a touch over-done, but I think the character is in a pretty good wheelhouse when they have her acting as a conspiracy theorist/skeptic/outside-the-box thinker. I feel she can contribute a lot to the story if she's someone Peter can talk to about the crazy villain shit that happens in the MCU and have her act like a soundboard or fresh perspective from Peter. A creative problem solver basically.
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Tyranthraxus
07/15/19 6:02:27 PM
#35:


Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Her name is Michelle.
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Bass_X0
07/15/19 6:03:20 PM
#36:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Her name is Michelle.


Why didnt they just use Mary Jane Watson?
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soulunison2
07/15/19 6:05:11 PM
#38:


P sure you all know what TC means
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Tyranthraxus
07/15/19 6:05:20 PM
#39:


Bass_X0 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Her name is Michelle.


Why didnt they just use Mary Jane Watson?


Why couldn't they use miles morales?

like I don't fucking know why they did what they did but she's not MJ and to suggest that she is because she has the same initials is the most dishonest shit you can post about that movie.
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Bass_X0
07/15/19 6:05:30 PM
#40:


Hairistotle posted...
Oh gee, I WONDER why TC would hate Zendaya's character. Hm.


They screwed up all the supporting cast in the Spider-Man movies.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 6:12:47 PM
#41:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Bass_X0 posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
She literally is her own character, she is not Mary Jane


Shes MJ in a Spider-Man movie. Thats not her own character.


Her name is Michelle.


Why didnt they just use Mary Jane Watson?


Why couldn't they use miles morales?

like I don't fucking know why they did what they did but she's not MJ and to suggest that she is because she has the same initials is the most dishonest shit you can post about that movie.


Being intentionally dense about this qualm isnt helping your case.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 6:13:00 PM
#42:


Hairistotle posted...
Oh gee, I WONDER why TC would hate Zendaya's character. Hm.


Been meaning to add you to the ignore list.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 6:13:48 PM
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soulunison2 posted...
P sure you all know what TC means


Go ahead and elaborate.
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ViewtifulGrave
07/15/19 6:14:51 PM
#45:


SailorGoon posted...
Emma Stone has played the best love interest as far the films go. Gwen is miles better. I'd say that's just how it goes in general actually

I see what you did there.
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Tyranthraxus
07/15/19 6:17:05 PM
#46:


Deadpool_18 posted...
Being intentionally dense about this qualm isnt helping your case.


What's your case?

Deadpool_18 posted...
They couldnt have just made her her own unique character?


Deadpool_18 posted...
Race bending should be a no-no. And if youre going to do it, do it well. This was too far in the other direction.


Please explain to me how you think a super hot, popular, red-headed socialite has a shred of similarities with Michelle and how she's race bent in the first place considering the character didn't exist until Homecoming.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 6:17:42 PM
#47:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
Being intentionally dense about this qualm isnt helping your case.


What's your case?

Deadpool_18 posted...
They couldnt have just made her her own unique character?


Deadpool_18 posted...
Race bending should be a no-no. And if youre going to do it, do it well. This was too far in the other direction.


Please explain to me how you think a super hot, popular, red-headed socialite has a shred of similarities with Michelle and how she's race bent in the first place considering the character didn't exist until Homecoming.


MJ has been a character for decades, homie.
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Tyranthraxus
07/15/19 6:18:15 PM
#48:


Deadpool_18 posted...
MJ has been a character for decades, homie.

Michelle's first appearance is homecoming.
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Allanon23
07/15/19 6:19:30 PM
#49:


Current MJ is the best on screen love interest in the Spider-Man franchise tbh. That's not to say she's amazing, but the rest were awful.
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Deadpool_18
07/15/19 6:19:40 PM
#50:


Tyranthraxus posted...
Deadpool_18 posted...
MJ has been a character for decades, homie.

Michelle's first appearance is homecoming.


Yep. And the icon shes supposed to represent was introduced in 1965.
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