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Samman123
05/24/19 4:38:54 PM
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I mean, it was a decent game with fun moments but it was a huge step down in quality from MGS1 and 2.
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Mark_DeRosa
05/24/19 4:42:22 PM
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I just hated no radar like the previous game. I couldnt do any stealth because I was getting caught from enemies I couldnt even recognize were people from the environment
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Samman123
05/24/19 4:43:18 PM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
I just hated no radar like the previous game. I couldnt do any stealth because I was getting caught from enemies I couldnt even recognize were people from the environment


Yes, no radar was a huge mistake
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MC_BatCommander
05/24/19 4:43:29 PM
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It's the best MGS game and one of my all time favorites
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Samman123
05/24/19 4:43:53 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
It's the best MGS game and one of my all time favorites


Lol whatever you think
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Foppe
05/24/19 4:44:00 PM
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It had the best boss in any videogame ever made...

...The Ladder!
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AlmightyCheeks
05/24/19 4:44:56 PM
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because theres people out there who actually believe kojima is a good writer
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MC_BatCommander
05/24/19 4:47:40 PM
#9:


Samman123 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
It's the best MGS game and one of my all time favorites


Lol whatever you think


Yeah I do think that
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Samman123
05/24/19 4:48:44 PM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Samman123 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
It's the best MGS game and one of my all time favorites


Lol whatever you think


Yeah I do think that


Not everyone can have good opinions I guess
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Blue_Dream87
05/24/19 4:50:41 PM
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It's not as polarizing as 2, 4 or 5. You can complain about survival mechanics but they were pretty damn good all things considering, and way more creative than any other game to come out with survival shit
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MonkeyBones23
05/24/19 4:50:44 PM
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I don't know anything about MGS in general but I thought the story and characters for MGS3 were amazing.
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MC_BatCommander
05/24/19 4:50:51 PM
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Samman123 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Samman123 posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
It's the best MGS game and one of my all time favorites


Lol whatever you think


Yeah I do think that


Not everyone can have good opinions I guess


Guess not
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scorpion41
05/24/19 4:55:02 PM
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Samman123 posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
I just hated no radar like the previous game. I couldnt do any stealth because I was getting caught from enemies I couldnt even recognize were people from the environment


Yes, no radar was a huge mistake


Because actually checking your surroundings was so hard compared to staring at a small square.
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MC_BatCommander
05/24/19 4:56:52 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Samman123 posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
I just hated no radar like the previous game. I couldnt do any stealth because I was getting caught from enemies I couldnt even recognize were people from the environment


Yes, no radar was a huge mistake


Because actually checking your surroundings was so hard compared to staring at a small square.


Tbf in the original version it was a fuckin pain. With subsistence came the third person camera which was objectively better
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Mark_DeRosa
05/24/19 5:53:21 PM
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scorpion41 posted...
Samman123 posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
I just hated no radar like the previous game. I couldnt do any stealth because I was getting caught from enemies I couldnt even recognize were people from the environment


Yes, no radar was a huge mistake


Because actually checking your surroundings was so hard compared to staring at a small square.

The original was damn near impossible and everything looks like mud or green
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mooreandrew58
05/24/19 6:06:37 PM
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It's not just this site in in a mgs fangroup on Facebook and its about the same there. 3 and 1 getting tons of love 2 getting a good amount and varying opinions on 4 and 5
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Smashingpmkns
05/24/19 7:04:14 PM
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All MGS games are the pinnacle of gaming and if aliens ever come to visit we should show them the MGS series first tbh.
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Foppe
05/25/19 1:31:13 AM
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Mark_DeRosa posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Samman123 posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
I just hated no radar like the previous game. I couldnt do any stealth because I was getting caught from enemies I couldnt even recognize were people from the environment


Yes, no radar was a huge mistake


Because actually checking your surroundings was so hard compared to staring at a small square.

The original was damn near impossible and everything looks like mud or green

Andmyet everybody else had no problems with it...
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IloveJesus
05/25/19 1:50:16 AM
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Foppe posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Samman123 posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
I just hated no radar like the previous game. I couldnt do any stealth because I was getting caught from enemies I couldnt even recognize were people from the environment


Yes, no radar was a huge mistake


Because actually checking your surroundings was so hard compared to staring at a small square.

The original was damn near impossible and everything looks like mud or green

Andmyet everybody else had no problems with it...


That's not true.
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Zack_Attackv1
05/25/19 1:52:53 AM
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I'm just glad the Subsistence release added a camera I could control.
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Mark_DeRosa
05/25/19 1:56:08 AM
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Foppe posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
scorpion41 posted...
Samman123 posted...
Mark_DeRosa posted...
I just hated no radar like the previous game. I couldnt do any stealth because I was getting caught from enemies I couldnt even recognize were people from the environment


Yes, no radar was a huge mistake


Because actually checking your surroundings was so hard compared to staring at a small square.

The original was damn near impossible and everything looks like mud or green

Andmyet everybody else had no problems with it...

Wat
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Doe
05/25/19 1:57:16 AM
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Gamefaqs alone is not the only people who love MGS3. MGS3 is universally adored and rightly so.

At least, Subsistence. I should play the original
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ModLogic
05/25/19 2:49:34 AM
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MC_BatCommander posted...
Tbf in the original version it was a fuckin pain. With subsistence came the third person camera which was objectively better

not how the game was designed to be played. the cam ruined any challenge the game had.
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Mako_Sharknado
05/25/19 2:56:00 AM
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MGS1 is better in almost every way
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scorpion41
05/25/19 3:29:23 AM
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ModLogic posted...
MC_BatCommander posted...
Tbf in the original version it was a fuckin pain. With subsistence came the third person camera which was objectively better

not how the game was designed to be played. the cam ruined any challenge the game had.


I wouldnt say ruined it, but it definitely made the game easier to navigate since enemies were sparse throughout most of the outside sections. MGS4 fixes this by upping the enemy count both outside and indoors.
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Ludwig Von 2
05/25/19 3:38:11 AM
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Snake Eater is in my top favorite games of all time. Besides the story, I love that its camoflauge, healing, and food system. So much good to that game I could go on why I love it for hours.
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pkmnlord
05/25/19 3:43:18 AM
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I keep forgetting the original MGS3 had the top down camera first, I've almost always seen the Subsistence 3rd person camera version being played.

How the hell did anyone ever play the game like that?
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pfh1001
05/25/19 3:51:01 AM
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1>3>4>2. The series ended with 4.
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CM_Ponch
05/25/19 5:59:35 AM
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MGS3 is the series favorite everywhere
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IloveJesus
05/25/19 6:06:15 AM
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pfh1001 posted...
The series ended with 2.

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Rika_Furude
05/25/19 7:06:21 AM
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Samman123 posted...
huge step down in quality from MGS1 and 2.

no it wasn't
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Ic3Bullet
05/25/19 9:31:52 AM
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My first playthrough I felt bored through the entire game. I just wanted to get through it and every step along the way was just an annoying obstacle I had to pass.

Immediately upon beating it, I reflected and realized in retrospect that playing through that shit was one of the funnest things I had ever done.

A few months later I re-played it on Expert, this time savoring every moment. It was even more fun this time.

It's a top 3 game of all time for me. I don't care what anyone says.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
05/25/19 9:33:02 AM
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Babys first Metal Gear for one

The other is that it was a lot more appealing to the...how do I put it..."casual" Metal Gear Solid crowd that didn't like MGS2 at release.

These days I see most claim MGS2 is the best because most of the casuals have fled the series.

I feel like a lot of people forgot how fucking awful the original MGS3 was. Game was kind of dog shit until they put the free camera in the re-release. And the camo system is still pretty janky as fuck unless you just play it like MGS V.
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Ic3Bullet
05/25/19 9:39:17 AM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
And the camo system is still pretty janky as fuck unless you just play it like MGS V.

I do hate having to pause to switch camo.

That's why on my previous playthrough I was sure to unlock the Snake camo so I wouldn't have to keep switching it on future playthroughs.
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Banjo2553
05/25/19 10:56:01 AM
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Foppe posted...
Andmyet everybody else had no problems with it...

Nearly everybody complained about the original's camera, bud. Without the soliton radar the fixed overhead camera was ass. Subsistence changed it to a controllable third-person camera and made it much easier.

That said I love MGS3 because it had a perfect balance of gameplay and cutscenes. All the other games in the series have LOOONG stretches of story, or in the case of MGSV, where the story is nearly nonexistant.
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AlisLandale
05/25/19 11:00:48 AM
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Ic3Bullet posted...
My first playthrough I felt bored through the entire game. I just wanted to get through it and every step along the way was just an annoying obstacle I had to pass.

Immediately upon beating it, I reflected and realized in retrospect that playing through that shit was one of the funnest things I had ever done.

A few months later I re-played it on Expert, this time savoring every moment. It was even more fun this time.

It's a top 3 game of all time for me. I don't care what anyone says.


This was basically my experience. I have no idea how that even works, psychologically.

Though for me the game suddenly became GOAT starting with the Shagohod. Without a doubt one of the greatest finales in all video games. That may have incentivized me to re-evaluate it
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mooreandrew58
05/25/19 12:37:58 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Babys first Metal Gear for one

The other is that it was a lot more appealing to the...how do I put it..."casual" Metal Gear Solid crowd that didn't like MGS2 at release.

These days I see most claim MGS2 is the best because most of the casuals have fled the series.

I feel like a lot of people forgot how fucking awful the original MGS3 was. Game was kind of dog shit until they put the free camera in the re-release. And the camo system is still pretty janky as fuck unless you just play it like MGS V.


Ive beat it on normal with just tiger stripe. Wasnt a psnk run but yeah.

I dont get bashing the game on just the original though its not like the better version came out 10 years later or something. So for some of us the better version was our first play of it.
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ModLogic
05/25/19 3:40:14 PM
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D-Lo_BrownTown posted...
Game was kind of dog shit until they put the free camera in the re-release.

um no. the game wasn't designed for over the shoulder cam. might as well just watch a let's play instead because the game became auto win easy.
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Knowledge_King
05/25/19 6:59:00 PM
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It's one of the GOAT games and the best in the series. It's almost impossible to overrate it.
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D-Lo_BrownTown
05/25/19 9:42:17 PM
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ModLogic posted...

um no. the game wasn't designed for over the shoulder cam. might as well just watch a let's play instead because the game became auto win easy.


It's objectively bad design since you can't see anything until it's too late.

And before you say "first person view" I might as well say "lol auto easy mode" because what's the difference? 3rd person just makes it less janky than having to stop every few seconds and look ahead in FPV.
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ModLogic
05/26/19 12:38:32 AM
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thats how the game is designed. you arent supposed to run around full steam.
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