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burritosatan 05/22/19 8:41:23 PM #458:	Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922246343] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote> Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 05/22/19 8:58:58 PM #459:	says the person who can't even be assed to learn what he's raging against, defending the person who literally called this propaganda as his entry into the topic. nah, my summary is fine. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! So... what did we learn? <cite>Medussa posted [p:922247035] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>says the person who can't even be assed to learn what he's raging against, defending the person who literally called this propaganda as his entry into the topic. nah, my summary is fine.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:00:57 PM #460:	Medussa posted... says the person who can't even be assed to learn what he's raging against, defending the person who literally called this propaganda as his entry into the topic. nah, my summary is fine. Once again you had nothing to say --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922247122] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>says the person who can't even be assed to learn what he's raging against, defending the person who literally called this propaganda as his entry into the topic. nah, my summary is fine.</quote> Once again you had nothing to say</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 05/22/19 9:03:32 PM #461:	burritosatan posted... Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:922247217] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote> Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument</quote> Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:13:26 PM #462:	Sayoria posted... burritosatan posted... Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe. Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings. Stop feeling so attacked. --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922247547] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote> Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument</quote> Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe.</quote> Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings. Stop feeling so attacked.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:14:53 PM #463:	Sayoria posted... burritosatan posted... Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe. Like read my damn signature I'm FOR LGBTQ rights and acceptance. I also have 2 young children aged 10 and 5 and I know what kids in kindergarten have the capacity to understand at the depth a conversation like this is needed if we want it to be successful in an attempt to stop bullying --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922247616] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote> Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument</quote> Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe.</quote> Like read my damn signature I'm FOR LGBTQ rights and acceptance. I also have 2 young children aged 10 and 5 and I know what kids in kindergarten have the capacity to understand at the depth a conversation like this is needed if we want it to be successful in an attempt to stop bullying</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AttackUp 05/22/19 9:16:36 PM #464:	burritosatan posted... Sayoria posted... burritosatan posted... Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe. Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings. Stop feeling so attacked. --- Favorite RPGs are the Chrono, Earthbound, and Lunar series. Also a huge fan of Zelda, Super Smash Bros, Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie/DK64 and many other games. <cite>AttackUp posted [p:922247680] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote> Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument</quote> Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe.</quote> Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings. Stop feeling so attacked.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/22/19 9:18:15 PM #465:	Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:922247750] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blade-wolf 05/22/19 9:20:30 PM #466:	Help condition them. --- hustler <cite>Blade-wolf posted [p:922247834] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Help condition them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/22/19 9:21:52 PM #467:	Blade-wolf posted... Help condition them. Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922247890] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blade-wolf posted...</cite> <quote>Help condition them.</quote> <cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:22:16 PM #468:	Dragonblade01 posted... Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help. They don't even grasp the concept of situational awareness. They think people are funny for all sorts of innocent reasons. Having to simplify something like LGBTQ issues for 5 year olds wouldn't help yet. I say yet because st 7 or 8 the conversation would hopefully help and make much more sense. It probably won't stop bullying, but they'll at least understand. Tell a group of 4 year olds little Jim has 2 dads and that's all they will here. They'll think it's funny for innocent reasons and that's as far as they'll get. I was on my youngest daughters field trip to a nature reserve last week and the kids couldn't even pay attention long enough to walk in a semi decent line. --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922247902] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help.</quote> They don't even grasp the concept of situational awareness. They think people are funny for all sorts of innocent reasons. Having to simplify something like LGBTQ issues for 5 year olds wouldn't help yet. I say yet because st 7 or 8 the conversation would hopefully help and make much more sense. It probably won't stop bullying, but they'll at least understand. Tell a group of 4 year olds little Jim has 2 dads and that's all they will here. They'll think it's funny for innocent reasons and that's as far as they'll get. I was on my youngest daughters field trip to a nature reserve last week and the kids couldn't even pay attention long enough to walk in a semi decent line.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/22/19 9:22:55 PM #469:	burritosatan posted... 4 year olds again --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922247923] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>4 year olds</quote> again</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:23:27 PM #470:	PleaseClap posted... Blade-wolf posted... Help condition them. Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. Cool that you ignored my 2 lengthy responses in another vain attempt to derail a topic on a subject you claim to have respect for please clap --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922247945] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blade-wolf posted...</cite> <quote>Help condition them.</quote> <cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote></quote> Cool that you ignored my 2 lengthy responses in another vain attempt to derail a topic on a subject you claim to have respect for please clap</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/22/19 9:24:31 PM #471:	burritosatan posted... PleaseClap posted... Blade-wolf posted... Help condition them. Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. Cool that you ignored my 2 lengthy responses in another vain attempt to derail a topic on a subject you claim to have respect for please clap You'll see that I was responding to bladewolf --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922247987] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blade-wolf posted...</cite> <quote>Help condition them.</quote> <cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote></quote> Cool that you ignored my 2 lengthy responses in another vain attempt to derail a topic on a subject you claim to have respect for please clap</quote> You'll see that I was responding to bladewolf</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:24:46 PM #472:	PleaseClap posted... burritosatan posted... 4 year olds again I said before kids start kindergarten at 4 here if its 5 in Cali I'm oh so sorry. I see that's your only criticism of my argument and since we agree let's have a round of applause please clap --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922247995] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>4 year olds</quote> again</quote> I said before kids start kindergarten at 4 here if its 5 in Cali I'm oh so sorry. I see that's your only criticism of my argument and since we agree let's have a round of applause please clap</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BignutzisBack 05/22/19 9:24:52 PM #473:	Way too young to be teaching kids about that stuff --- https://imgur.com/plA0Vg9 https://media.giphy.com/media/dgK22exekwOLm/giphy.gif <cite>BignutzisBack posted [p:922248005] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Way too young to be teaching kids about that stuff</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/22/19 9:27:32 PM #474:	burritosatan posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help. They don't even grasp the concept of situational awareness. They think people are funny for all sorts of innocent reasons. Having to simplify something like LGBTQ issues for 5 year olds wouldn't help yet. I say yet because st 7 or 8 the conversation would hopefully help and make much more sense. It probably won't stop bullying, but they'll at least understand. Tell a group of 4 year olds little Jim has 2 dads and that's all they will here. They'll think it's funny for innocent reasons and that's as far as they'll get. I was on my youngest daughters field trip to a nature reserve last week and the kids couldn't even pay attention long enough to walk in a semi decent line. Again, the point of exposure to LGBT at a young age is not because they will fully understand the idea, but rather to make them aware of it in a world that will have already certainly exposed them to non-LGBT. Also, if you're going to be that specific about what age is okay, then please stop pretending that 4 years old is the standard age for kindergarten. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:922248103] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help.</quote> They don't even grasp the concept of situational awareness. They think people are funny for all sorts of innocent reasons. Having to simplify something like LGBTQ issues for 5 year olds wouldn't help yet. I say yet because st 7 or 8 the conversation would hopefully help and make much more sense. It probably won't stop bullying, but they'll at least understand. Tell a group of 4 year olds little Jim has 2 dads and that's all they will here. They'll think it's funny for innocent reasons and that's as far as they'll get. I was on my youngest daughters field trip to a nature reserve last week and the kids couldn't even pay attention long enough to walk in a semi decent line.</quote> Again, the point of exposure to LGBT at a young age is not because they will fully understand the idea, but rather to make them aware of it in a world that will have already certainly exposed them to non-LGBT. Also, if you're going to be that specific about what age is okay, then please stop pretending that 4 years old is the standard age for kindergarten.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:30:20 PM #475:	Dragonblade01 posted... burritosatan posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help. They don't even grasp the concept of situational awareness. They think people are funny for all sorts of innocent reasons. Having to simplify something like LGBTQ issues for 5 year olds wouldn't help yet. I say yet because st 7 or 8 the conversation would hopefully help and make much more sense. It probably won't stop bullying, but they'll at least understand. Tell a group of 4 year olds little Jim has 2 dads and that's all they will here. They'll think it's funny for innocent reasons and that's as far as they'll get. I was on my youngest daughters field trip to a nature reserve last week and the kids couldn't even pay attention long enough to walk in a semi decent line. Again, the point of exposure to LGBT at a young age is not because they will fully understand the idea, but rather to make them aware of it in a world that will have already certainly exposed them to non-LGBT. Also, if you're going to be that specific about what age is okay, then please stop pretending that 4 years old is the standard age for kindergarten. It is the standard age. What will you gain by introducing very young kids to this? Do you think if we pulled a group of kindergartners after they got the LGBTQ talk they would understand and be respectful or find it amusing and confusing? --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922248192] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help.</quote> They don't even grasp the concept of situational awareness. They think people are funny for all sorts of innocent reasons. Having to simplify something like LGBTQ issues for 5 year olds wouldn't help yet. I say yet because st 7 or 8 the conversation would hopefully help and make much more sense. It probably won't stop bullying, but they'll at least understand. Tell a group of 4 year olds little Jim has 2 dads and that's all they will here. They'll think it's funny for innocent reasons and that's as far as they'll get. I was on my youngest daughters field trip to a nature reserve last week and the kids couldn't even pay attention long enough to walk in a semi decent line.</quote> Again, the point of exposure to LGBT at a young age is not because they will fully understand the idea, but rather to make them aware of it in a world that will have already certainly exposed them to non-LGBT. Also, if you're going to be that specific about what age is okay, then please stop pretending that 4 years old is the standard age for kindergarten.</quote> It is the standard age. What will you gain by introducing very young kids to this? Do you think if we pulled a group of kindergartners after they got the LGBTQ talk they would understand and be respectful or find it amusing and confusing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AttackUp 05/22/19 9:30:46 PM #476:	Kids 4, 5, or 6 have trouble understanding basic concepts like tying shoes, spelling their name, brushing their teeth, figuring out 2+2, what most animals even are, believing Santa Claus is real..... You guys really think they're going to understand LGBTQ logic at that age? It will only confuse them. If it's going to be taught it needs to be 10+ puberty age where it will actually be relevant --- Favorite RPGs are the Chrono, Earthbound, and Lunar series. Also a huge fan of Zelda, Super Smash Bros, Banjo-Kazooie/Tooie/DK64 and many other games. <cite>AttackUp posted [p:922248215] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Kids 4, 5, or 6 have trouble understanding basic concepts like tying shoes, spelling their name, brushing their teeth, figuring out 2+2, what most animals even are, believing Santa Claus is real..... You guys really think they're going to understand LGBTQ logic at that age? It will only confuse them. If it's going to be taught it needs to be 10+ puberty age where it will actually be relevant</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 05/22/19 9:31:26 PM #477:	477 --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:922248234] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>477</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:32:23 PM #478:	AttackUp posted... burritosatan posted... Sayoria posted... burritosatan posted... Medussa posted... we get it; you don't like queer people. Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe. Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings. Stop feeling so attacked. @Sayoria --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922248270] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>AttackUp posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>we get it; you don't like queer people.</quote> Nobody said that. Just because we are pointing our your personal agenda doesnt mean you need to resort to this instead of forming a coherent argument</quote> Anyone who uses the phrase "your personal agenda", especially in regards to LGBT rights is a certified asshole and most likely a homophobe.</quote> Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings. Stop feeling so attacked.</quote></quote> @Sayoria</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 9:32:36 PM #479:	Gafemage posted... 477 We can make a part 2 --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922248279] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote>477</quote> We can make a part 2</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Gafemage 05/22/19 9:36:28 PM #480:	burritosatan posted... Gafemage posted... 477 We can make a part 2 Itll at least be a slightly different topic title than Ive been seeing the past week & part 2 topics typically run out of steam pretty quickly. --- https://imgur.com/1EOFcjn https://imgur.com/epjd8zk <cite>Gafemage posted [p:922248431] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote>477</quote> We can make a part 2</quote> Itll at least be a slightly different topic title than Ive been seeing the past week & part 2 topics typically run out of steam pretty quickly.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/22/19 9:39:40 PM #481:	burritosatan posted... Dragonblade01 posted... burritosatan posted... Dragonblade01 posted... Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help. They don't even grasp the concept of situational awareness. They think people are funny for all sorts of innocent reasons. Having to simplify something like LGBTQ issues for 5 year olds wouldn't help yet. I say yet because st 7 or 8 the conversation would hopefully help and make much more sense. It probably won't stop bullying, but they'll at least understand. Tell a group of 4 year olds little Jim has 2 dads and that's all they will here. They'll think it's funny for innocent reasons and that's as far as they'll get. I was on my youngest daughters field trip to a nature reserve last week and the kids couldn't even pay attention long enough to walk in a semi decent line. Again, the point of exposure to LGBT at a young age is not because they will fully understand the idea, but rather to make them aware of it in a world that will have already certainly exposed them to non-LGBT. Also, if you're going to be that specific about what age is okay, then please stop pretending that 4 years old is the standard age for kindergarten. It is the standard age. What will you gain by introducing very young kids to this? Do you think if we pulled a group of kindergartners after they got the LGBTQ talk they would understand and be respectful or find it amusing and confusing? 4 years old is not common for kindergarten. They gain general awareness. Finding it amusing and confusing is okay. Because again, the point is not a comprehensive understanding of LGBT, but simply exposure to a group of people early on that they may not be exposed to otherwise. If you think it would be better at 7 or 8, fine. I don't have a problem with exposure at that age either. But I also think it's fine in kindergarten. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:922248542] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote>Exposure to the idea at a young age can only help.</quote> They don't even grasp the concept of situational awareness. They think people are funny for all sorts of innocent reasons. Having to simplify something like LGBTQ issues for 5 year olds wouldn't help yet. I say yet because st 7 or 8 the conversation would hopefully help and make much more sense. It probably won't stop bullying, but they'll at least understand. Tell a group of 4 year olds little Jim has 2 dads and that's all they will here. They'll think it's funny for innocent reasons and that's as far as they'll get. I was on my youngest daughters field trip to a nature reserve last week and the kids couldn't even pay attention long enough to walk in a semi decent line.</quote> Again, the point of exposure to LGBT at a young age is not because they will fully understand the idea, but rather to make them aware of it in a world that will have already certainly exposed them to non-LGBT. Also, if you're going to be that specific about what age is okay, then please stop pretending that 4 years old is the standard age for kindergarten.</quote> It is the standard age. What will you gain by introducing very young kids to this? Do you think if we pulled a group of kindergartners after they got the LGBTQ talk they would understand and be respectful or find it amusing and confusing?</quote> 4 years old is not common for kindergarten. They gain general awareness. Finding it amusing and confusing is okay. Because again, the point is not a comprehensive understanding of LGBT, but simply exposure to a group of people early on that they may not be exposed to otherwise. If you think it would be better at 7 or 8, fine. I don't have a problem with exposure at that age either. But I also think it's fine in kindergarten.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sayoria 05/22/19 10:28:27 PM #482:	burritosatan posted... Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings. Thanks for admitting it is hate. --- Japanese Crack: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5pzggr <cite>Sayoria posted [p:922250430] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote> Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings.</quote> Thanks for admitting it is hate.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 10:38:20 PM #483:	Sayoria posted... burritosatan posted... Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings. Thanks for admitting it is hate. I provided an additional 3 paragraphs and all you could do was point out an autocorrect mistake. Not surprising and you've literally proven my point that you're so blinded by your own personal agenda. Not sure what your agenda is and I hope you dont consider yourself an LGBTQ advocate because you're actually hurting the cause right now. --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922250759] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sayoria posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote> Its beyond the scope of a 4 year old still learning to tie their own shoes. This hate nothing to do with hatred towards anyone, its understanding the basic concept that kids barley able to draw dont need this thrust in their face at a young age. There is nothing to gain as it will leave them more confused than informed, and the people blindly pushing it without taking this simple fact into account are doing so based on personal feelings.</quote> Thanks for admitting it is hate.</quote> I provided an additional 3 paragraphs and all you could do was point out an autocorrect mistake. Not surprising and you've literally proven my point that you're so blinded by your own personal agenda. Not sure what your agenda is and I hope you dont consider yourself an LGBTQ advocate because you're actually hurting the cause right now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 05/22/19 10:45:35 PM #484:	lmao yeah, @Sayoria really hates the lgbt community, she certainly has it in for them --- please https://imgur.com/AmWcJjM <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:922250993] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>lmao yeah, @Sayoria really hates the lgbt community, she certainly has it in for them</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/22/19 10:48:21 PM #485:	PleaseClap posted... lmao yeah, @Sayoria really hates the lgbt community, she certainly has it in for them I'm aware of who Sayoria is. They are probably the best example of an individual so enamoured with the cause that they have the potential to get blinded by personal agenda over reasonable questions but its not entirely their fault it is human nature, i dont blame them. I was hoping they would at least be open to an adult conversation but all they were able to muster was "ya well lol grammar police" --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922251098] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>lmao yeah, @Sayoria really hates the lgbt community, she certainly has it in for them</quote> I'm aware of who Sayoria is. They are probably the best example of an individual so enamoured with the cause that they have the potential to get blinded by personal agenda over reasonable questions but its not entirely their fault it is human nature, i dont blame them. I was hoping they would at least be open to an adult conversation but all they were able to muster was "ya well lol grammar police"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Current_Events 05/22/19 10:51:40 PM #486:	to be honest, i don't think lgbtq needs to be put into the school curriculum i just think it will be redundant, some people will just attend the class to get easy A <cite>Current_Events posted [p:922251208] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>to be honest, i don't think lgbtq needs to be put into the school curriculum i just think it will be redundant, some people will just attend the class to get easy A</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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burritosatan 05/22/19 11:36:13 PM #488:	McgeesAlice808 posted... burritosatan posted... McgeesAlice808 posted... burritosatan posted... Do you think teaching evolution is forcing down throats? Are you insinuating science is literally incorrect and we should teach religion and science as if they hold the same importance? Exactly. The existence of LGBT is just basic fact like science. Treating it like its some sort of propaganda is implying theyre some of sort of counterpart to religion like religious people think evolution is. The existence of LGBT is no different from evolution. Children in kindergarten also dont do calculus, learn about the multiverse theory, etc. Not because it's not important but because it's not relative to what they can handle at the moment beyond a basic "explain like I'm literally 5" and at that time it has no purpose yet. They learn basic arithmetic to build up to it. I dont know anywhere that teaches multiverse theory because thats a made up theory with little evidence its real and most scientists dont have a consensus on. Theres no reason to build up to learning lgbt exists. Thats not something advanced. burritosatan posted... That's not the point, they are very young children. They cant do anything with this information at that age Who cares? I learned about space, butterfly metamorphosis, complicated words I didnt know the meaning of for a spelling bee, and dinosaurs when I was in kindergarten even though kids cant do anything with that information. Like I said before, this is an anti-intellectual mindset. I agree there no harm in it, nothing harmful comes from the exposure but you also agree at that age nothing is being gained either. So why not just save it for a more appropriate age all together then --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922252776] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>McgeesAlice808 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>McgeesAlice808 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><quote>Do you think teaching evolution is forcing down throats?</quote> Are you insinuating science is literally incorrect and we should teach religion and science as if they hold the same importance?</quote> Exactly. The existence of LGBT is just basic fact like science. Treating it like its some sort of propaganda is implying theyre some of sort of counterpart to religion like religious people think evolution is. The existence of LGBT is no different from evolution.</quote> Children in kindergarten also dont do calculus, learn about the multiverse theory, etc. Not because it's not important but because it's not relative to what they can handle at the moment beyond a basic "explain like I'm literally 5" and at that time it has no purpose yet.</quote> They learn basic arithmetic to build up to it. I dont know anywhere that teaches multiverse theory because thats a made up theory with little evidence its real and most scientists dont have a consensus on. Theres no reason to build up to learning lgbt exists. Thats not something advanced. <cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>That's not the point, they are very young children. They cant do anything with this information at that age</quote> Who cares? I learned about space, butterfly metamorphosis, complicated words I didnt know the meaning of for a spelling bee, and dinosaurs when I was in kindergarten even though kids cant do anything with that information. Like I said before, this is an anti-intellectual mindset. </quote> I agree there no harm in it, nothing harmful comes from the exposure but you also agree at that age nothing is being gained either. So why not just save it for a more appropriate age all together then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Dream87 05/23/19 12:29:08 AM #490:	Almost 500 posts and people are still thinking 4 year olds don't understand what gender is? JFC there's no changing minds for yall, idk why anyone bothers --- <cite>Blue_Dream87 posted [p:922254335] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Almost 500 posts and people are still thinking 4 year olds don't understand what gender is? JFC there's no changing minds for yall, idk why anyone bothers</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass2 05/23/19 3:18:22 PM #491:	At what age should heterosexuality be taught to children? <cite>Bass2 posted [p:922277557] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>At what age should heterosexuality be taught to children?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ghetto_Turtle 05/23/19 3:21:47 PM #492:	Can this topic just end so I stop seeing it in my amp? <cite>Ghetto_Turtle posted [p:922277679] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Can this topic just end so I stop seeing it in my amp?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass2 05/23/19 3:25:59 PM #493:	It will end soon. <cite>Bass2 posted [p:922277857] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>It will end soon.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/23/19 3:40:18 PM #494:	Bass2 posted... At what age should heterosexuality be taught to children? @PleaseClap --- Same sex marriage is not gay privilege, its equal rights. Privilege would be something like gay people not paying taxes. Like churches don't <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922278425] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Bass2 posted...</cite> <quote>At what age should heterosexuality be taught to children?</quote> @PleaseClap</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bass2 05/23/19 3:42:37 PM #495:	Gafemage posted... Lets just get this to 500 as soon as we can Okay. <cite>Bass2 posted [p:922278516] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Gafemage posted...</cite> <quote>Lets just get this to 500 as soon as we can</quote> Okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Awakened_Link 05/23/19 3:45:48 PM #497:	woo --- Add me on Switch! FC: SW-3465-2506-6411 Formerly known as Coleby <cite>Awakened_Link posted [p:922278653] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>woo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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