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burritosatan 05/16/19 9:33:03 AM #307:	Blue_Dream87 posted... burritosatan posted... Sir Will posted... burritosatan posted... McgeesAlice808 posted... Ive not been too fond of stuff California has done lately but this is a good thing. Although not surprised to see right leaning reactionaries condoning anti-intellectualism as usual. For 4 year olds tho? Yes. 4 year olds can barely spell their own name it may be a tad early 4 year olds are old enough to understand what gender is They use public observation and basic understanding oh what define a boy or a girl. This is part of development, but they aren't ready to be told about homosexuality, gender dysmorphia, etc. Take the example of them learning colors. They observe the color pink, talk about other things that are pink, draw pictures of ponk things. They aren't at the level to dissect the science behind it. Colors like white and pink are not present in the spectrum because they are the result of our eyes' mixing wavelengths of light. --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921967864] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Dream87 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>McgeesAlice808 posted...</cite> <quote>Ive not been too fond of stuff California has done lately but this is a good thing. Although not surprised to see right leaning reactionaries condoning anti-intellectualism as usual.</quote> For 4 year olds tho?</quote> Yes.</quote> 4 year olds can barely spell their own name it may be a tad early</quote> 4 year olds are old enough to understand what gender is</quote> They use public observation and basic understanding oh what define a boy or a girl. This is part of development, but they aren't ready to be told about homosexuality, gender dysmorphia, etc. Take the example of them learning colors. They observe the color pink, talk about other things that are pink, draw pictures of ponk things. They aren't at the level to dissect the science behind it. Colors like white and pink are not present in the spectrum because they are the result of our eyes' mixing wavelengths of light.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dyinglegacy 05/16/19 9:47:15 AM #308:	Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery. --- Voted worst user on CE 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017, and 2018. Current e-argument streak: 0 wins. 99999 losses. <cite>Dyinglegacy posted [p:921968302] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 05/16/19 10:47:24 AM #309:	Dyinglegacy posted... Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery. Oh for sure. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:921970256] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery.</quote> Oh for sure.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 11:01:26 AM #310:	Sir Will posted... Dyinglegacy posted... Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery. Oh for sure. While obviously we all agree here, you're also aware that 4 year olds learn largely based on observation via visual ques. So how are you going to explain the LGBT community to them then --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921970761] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery.</quote> Oh for sure.</quote> While obviously we all agree here, you're also aware that 4 year olds learn largely based on observation via visual ques. So how are you going to explain the LGBT community to them then</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/16/19 11:03:15 AM #311:	burritosatan posted... Sir Will posted... Dyinglegacy posted... Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery. Oh for sure. While obviously we all agree here, you're also aware that 4 year olds learn largely based on observation via visual ques. So how are you going to explain the LGBT community to them then There are 2 men holding hands. They love each other just like a man and a woman. Thats fine and normal. This woman used to look like this, but then she transitioned and now she looks like this. Isnt that good for her? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921970833] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery.</quote> Oh for sure.</quote> While obviously we all agree here, you're also aware that 4 year olds learn largely based on observation via visual ques. So how are you going to explain the LGBT community to them then</quote> There are 2 men holding hands. They love each other just like a man and a woman. Thats fine and normal. This woman used to look like this, but then she transitioned and now she looks like this. Isnt that good for her?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 05/16/19 11:05:23 AM #312:	i like how no one called out (or maybe even noticed?) the subtle derailing. Kindergarteners are 5 and 6. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! What happened? Hmmmmm... Coup <cite>Medussa posted [p:921970899] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>i like how no one called out (or maybe even noticed?) the subtle derailing. Kindergarteners are 5 and 6.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 11:12:12 AM #313:	King_Hellebuyck posted... burritosatan posted... Sir Will posted... Dyinglegacy posted... Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery. Oh for sure. While obviously we all agree here, you're also aware that 4 year olds learn largely based on observation via visual ques. So how are you going to explain the LGBT community to them then There are 2 men holding hands. They love each other just like a man and a woman. Thats fine and normal. This woman used to look like this, but then she transitioned and now she looks like this. Isnt that good for her? Now describe to a 4 year old what transitioning is, how it's done, why someone would want to do this, etc. --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921971156] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery.</quote> Oh for sure.</quote> While obviously we all agree here, you're also aware that 4 year olds learn largely based on observation via visual ques. So how are you going to explain the LGBT community to them then</quote> There are 2 men holding hands. They love each other just like a man and a woman. Thats fine and normal. This woman used to look like this, but then she transitioned and now she looks like this. Isnt that good for her?</quote> Now describe to a 4 year old what transitioning is, how it's done, why someone would want to do this, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/16/19 11:13:13 AM #314:	No --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921971187] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>No</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 11:24:39 AM #315:	King_Hellebuyck posted... No Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there. --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921971626] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/16/19 11:29:45 AM #316:	burritosatan posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... No Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there. Whats the point of trolling like this? What do you gain from it? --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921971807] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there.</quote> Whats the point of trolling like this? What do you gain from it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 11:31:27 AM #317:	King_Hellebuyck posted... burritosatan posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... No Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there. Whats the point of trolling like this? What do you gain from it? I'm not trolling? Im disagreeing with the article that details the changes to the sex education curriculum?? --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921971860] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there.</quote> Whats the point of trolling like this? What do you gain from it?</quote> I'm not trolling? Im disagreeing with the article that details the changes to the sex education curriculum??</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/16/19 11:32:21 AM #318:	I like how you couldnt factually type Im not trolling as a statement. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921971886] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>I like how you couldnt factually type Im not trolling as a statement.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 11:34:31 AM #319:	King_Hellebuyck posted... I like how you couldnt factually type Im not trolling as a statement. I'm not sure why you feel anyone who disagrees with your point of view in life somehow must be trolling. --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921971959] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>I like how you couldnt factually type Im not trolling as a statement.</quote> I'm not sure why you feel anyone who disagrees with your point of view in life somehow must be trolling.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/16/19 11:35:38 AM #320:	No I know that youre trolling because youve made it blatantly obvious --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921972005] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>No I know that youre trolling because youve made it blatantly obvious</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 11:38:01 AM #321:	King_Hellebuyck posted... No I know that youre trolling because youve made it blatantly obvious Sure I must be trolling because I dont believe kindergarteners should be forced to learn about the LGBT community based on their age and it not be appropriate at this time? No one is saying that the LGBT community and learning about gender is a bad thing, it's the age that it's being introduced --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921972098] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>No I know that youre trolling because youve made it blatantly obvious</quote> Sure I must be trolling because I dont believe kindergarteners should be forced to learn about the LGBT community based on their age and it not be appropriate at this time? No one is saying that the LGBT community and learning about gender is a bad thing, it's the age that it's being introduced</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/16/19 11:39:05 AM #322:	Because teaching children at a young age that people are different and that's okay is a bad thing. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:921972134] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Because teaching children at a young age that people are different and that's okay is a bad thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 11:41:41 AM #323:	Tmaster148 posted... Because teaching children at a young age that people are different and that's okay is a bad thing. We can teach young children about treating everyone with respect at basically any age, but going into the gender and sexual orientation aspects at 4 years old is not necessary --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921972223] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Because teaching children at a young age that people are different and that's okay is a bad thing.</quote> We can teach young children about treating everyone with respect at basically any age, but going into the gender and sexual orientation aspects at 4 years old is not necessary</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 05/16/19 11:41:56 AM #324:	burritosatan posted... Now describe to a 4 year old what transitioning is, how it's done, why someone would want to do this, etc. Nobody is suggesting that be done and you damn well know it. burritosatan posted... Sure I must be trolling Glad we agree. burritosatan posted... No one is saying that the LGBT community and learning about gender is a bad thing Yes. Yes you are. Hey, if you're going to do leaps in logic, so will I. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:921972233] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>Now describe to a 4 year old what transitioning is, how it's done, why someone would want to do this, etc.</quote> Nobody is suggesting that be done and you damn well know it. <cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>Sure I must be trolling</quote> Glad we agree. <cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>No one is saying that the LGBT community and learning about gender is a bad thing</quote> Yes. Yes you are. Hey, if you're going to do leaps in logic, so will I.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 05/16/19 11:42:34 AM #325:	no, you're trolling because you just built and attacked a strawman. you're trolling because you keep referring to kindergartners as 4 year olds. you're trolling because you're not actually making any arguments, and not replying to corrections in good faith. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! What happened? Hmmmmm... Coup <cite>Medussa posted [p:921972257] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>no, you're trolling because you just built and attacked a strawman. you're trolling because you keep referring to kindergartners as 4 year olds. you're trolling because you're not actually making any arguments, and not replying to corrections in good faith.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 05/16/19 11:44:26 AM #326:	burritosatan posted... Tmaster148 posted... Because teaching children at a young age that people are different and that's okay is a bad thing. We can teach young children about treating everyone with respect at basically any age, but going into the gender and sexual orientation aspects at 4 years old is not necessary Young children have a concept of attraction. I've heard from people in real life talking about the crushes they had as a kid in elementary school. The fact is you want to deny telling kids it's alright that some people like the person of the same gender. This is harmful to the kids who are gay and have to struggle because no one tells them it's okay. --- https://imgur.com/BBcZDLJ <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:921972335] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote>Because teaching children at a young age that people are different and that's okay is a bad thing.</quote> We can teach young children about treating everyone with respect at basically any age, but going into the gender and sexual orientation aspects at 4 years old is not necessary</quote> Young children have a concept of attraction. I've heard from people in real life talking about the crushes they had as a kid in elementary school. The fact is you want to deny telling kids it's alright that some people like the person of the same gender. This is harmful to the kids who are gay and have to struggle because no one tells them it's okay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Monolith1676 05/16/19 11:44:39 AM #327:	Let kids be kids. --- Gears of War 1 Assassination Legend <cite>Monolith1676 posted [p:921972347] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Let kids be kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/16/19 11:49:09 AM #328:	burritosatan posted... Now describe to a 4 year old what transitioning is, how it's done, why someone would want to do this, etc. A: "Kids should learn math." B: "Oh yeah? Then teach them about differential equations!" A: "Uh no." B: "See? Kids shouldn't learn math!" --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:921972526] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>Now describe to a 4 year old what transitioning is, how it's done, why someone would want to do this, etc. </quote> A: "Kids should learn math." B: "Oh yeah? Then teach them about differential equations!" A: "Uh no." B: "See? Kids shouldn't learn math!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/16/19 11:50:15 AM #329:	burritosatan posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... No I know that youre trolling because youve made it blatantly obvious Sure I must be trolling because I dont believe kindergarteners should be forced to learn about the LGBT community based on their age and it not be appropriate at this time? No one is saying that the LGBT community and learning about gender is a bad thing, it's the age that it's being introduced Dude when I answered your questions about how its not bad you just keep pushing to make it seem worse and worse without any actual attempt at a conversation or dialogue. Youre not fooling anyone. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921972580] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>No I know that youre trolling because youve made it blatantly obvious</quote> Sure I must be trolling because I dont believe kindergarteners should be forced to learn about the LGBT community based on their age and it not be appropriate at this time? No one is saying that the LGBT community and learning about gender is a bad thing, it's the age that it's being introduced</quote> Dude when I answered your questions about how its not bad you just keep pushing to make it seem worse and worse without any actual attempt at a conversation or dialogue. Youre not fooling anyone.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 12:15:11 PM #330:	Sir Will posted... burritosatan posted... Now describe to a 4 year old what transitioning is, how it's done, why someone would want to do this, etc. Nobody is suggesting that be done and you damn well know it. burritosatan posted... Sure I must be trolling Glad we agree. burritosatan posted... No one is saying that the LGBT community and learning about gender is a bad thing Yes. Yes you are. Hey, if you're going to do leaps in logic, so will I. Stop twisting my words to fit your agenda. I also think toasters are a good invention. Do I need to also explain why shoving your hand in one I'd a bad idea? No. --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921973586] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Sir Will posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>Now describe to a 4 year old what transitioning is, how it's done, why someone would want to do this, etc.</quote> Nobody is suggesting that be done and you damn well know it. <cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>Sure I must be trolling</quote> Glad we agree. <cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>No one is saying that the LGBT community and learning about gender is a bad thing</quote> Yes. Yes you are. Hey, if you're going to do leaps in logic, so will I.</quote> Stop twisting my words to fit your agenda. I also think toasters are a good invention. Do I need to also explain why shoving your hand in one I'd a bad idea? No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 05/16/19 12:17:53 PM #331:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Kisai posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed Can we not have some middle ground, here? Like, yes, we can inform them that gay people exist. But does that require also teaching them about sex at the same time? Those two things are inherently linked though. Young children are generally taught that gay people exist and how that means people of the same gender love each other. They arent shown porn like shrieking conservatives like to pretend. But you cant entirely separate its ok with relationships to exist between these people without some semblance of what a relationship means in that context. That is not at all the same thing as sex. --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:921973704] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kisai posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>Good, LGBTQ people exist and everyone needs sex ed</quote> Can we not have some middle ground, here? Like, yes, we can inform them that gay people exist. But does that require also teaching them about sex at the same time?</quote> Those two things are inherently linked though. Young children are generally taught that gay people exist and how that means people of the same gender love each other. They arent shown porn like shrieking conservatives like to pretend. But you cant entirely separate its ok with relationships to exist between these people without some semblance of what a relationship means in that context.</quote> That is not at all the same thing as sex.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 05/16/19 12:48:52 PM #332:	Dyinglegacy posted... Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery. I don't think anyone is suggesting they should, in spite of what is being said by people who are intentionally misrepresenting what's going on in order to troll. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:921974863] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dyinglegacy posted...</cite> <quote>Just keep it age appropriate. Obviously, a 4 year old probably shouldn't be shown graphic imagery.</quote> I don't think anyone is suggesting they should, in spite of what is being said by people who are intentionally misrepresenting what's going on in order to troll.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 05/16/19 12:51:41 PM #333:	Sex ed in kindergarten --- "Everyone attack." - The man in the back <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:921974956] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Sex ed in kindergarten </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 05/16/19 1:06:35 PM #334:	burritosatan posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... No Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there. >4 year olds >kindergarten Got any statistics about ages and corresponding schooling levels in the United states? I'd be curious to see what percentage of kindergarteners are four years old for the duration of that school year... --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:921975540] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there.</quote> >4 year olds >kindergarten Got any statistics about ages and corresponding schooling levels in the United states? I'd be curious to see what percentage of kindergarteners are four years old for the duration of that school year...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sir Will 05/16/19 1:08:54 PM #335:	burritosatan posted... Do I need to also explain why shoving your hand in one I'd a bad idea? Yes, actually. We do teach children that they are dangerous. --- River Song: Well, I was off to this gay gypsy bar mitzvah for the disabled when I thought 'Gosh, the Third Reich's a bit rubbish, I think i'll kill the Fuhrer' <cite>Sir Will posted [p:921975624] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>Do I need to also explain why shoving your hand in one I'd a bad idea?</quote> Yes, actually. We do teach children that they are dangerous.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 1:24:54 PM #336:	Machete posted... burritosatan posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... No Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there. >4 year olds >kindergarten Got any statistics about ages and corresponding schooling levels in the United states? I'd be curious to see what percentage of kindergarteners are four years old for the duration of that school year... Oh you guys dont start kids in kindergarten at 4 years old? We do, but that might explain some things --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921976314] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there.</quote> >4 year olds >kindergarten Got any statistics about ages and corresponding schooling levels in the United states? I'd be curious to see what percentage of kindergarteners are four years old for the duration of that school year...</quote> Oh you guys dont start kids in kindergarten at 4 years old? We do, but that might explain some things</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seraphim13 05/16/19 1:26:41 PM #337:	Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one.... <cite>Seraphim13 posted [p:921976398] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bloodychess 05/16/19 1:28:46 PM #338:	K4 or K5. Either way, it is really a pointless diversion to the topic. Let the kids enjoy bright colors and shiny objects. --- "Everyone attack." - The man in the back <cite>Bloodychess posted [p:921976498] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>K4 or K5. Either way, it is really a pointless diversion to the topic. Let the kids enjoy bright colors and shiny objects.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 05/16/19 1:29:22 PM #339:	Seraphim13 posted... Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one.... Yes, I fully agree. To go along with this we should imprison parents for life if they display any signs of being in a relationship as we cannot allow children to be exposed to such a graphic and heinous display of the human heart until they have at least had their first fumble with someone or convinced an adult to buy them booze underage. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:921976524] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Seraphim13 posted...</cite> <quote>Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one.... </quote> Yes, I fully agree. To go along with this we should imprison parents for life if they display any signs of being in a relationship as we cannot allow children to be exposed to such a graphic and heinous display of the human heart until they have at least had their first fumble with someone or convinced an adult to buy them booze underage.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
King_Hellebuyck 05/16/19 1:38:25 PM #340:	Seraphim13 posted... Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one.... Those are only grown issues to you because everyone had to repress themselves into adulthood (and beyond). There are trans children. There are gay children. There are gay and trans adults who children will interact with. There are consent issues that children need to be aware of so they dont get molested. We teach racial acceptance from a young age. There is no reason not to teach acceptance for LGBTQ people. --- All Hail King Connor! Official Connor Hellebuyck fanboy <cite>King_Hellebuyck posted [p:921976922] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Seraphim13 posted...</cite> <quote>Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one....</quote> Those are only grown issues to you because everyone had to repress themselves into adulthood (and beyond). There are trans children. There are gay children. There are gay and trans adults who children will interact with. There are consent issues that children need to be aware of so they dont get molested. We teach racial acceptance from a young age. There is no reason not to teach acceptance for LGBTQ people.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Machete 05/16/19 1:49:30 PM #341:	burritosatan posted... Machete posted... burritosatan posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... No Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there. >4 year olds >kindergarten Got any statistics about ages and corresponding schooling levels in the United states? I'd be curious to see what percentage of kindergarteners are four years old for the duration of that school year... Oh you guys dont start kids in kindergarten at 4 years old? We do, but that might explain some things What's "we" in this case? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>Machete posted [p:921977388] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Machete posted...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>No</quote> Exactly, kindergarten is too young. Glad we agree there.</quote> >4 year olds >kindergarten Got any statistics about ages and corresponding schooling levels in the United states? I'd be curious to see what percentage of kindergarteners are four years old for the duration of that school year...</quote> Oh you guys dont start kids in kindergarten at 4 years old? We do, but that might explain some things</quote> What's "we" in this case?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 05/16/19 1:54:10 PM #342:	Literally cali --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:921977579] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Literally cali</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 05/16/19 2:19:00 PM #343:	I started kindergarten 6 weeks after my 5th birthday, and anyone more than a week or two younger than me had to wait until the next year. There were absolutely no 4 year old kindergartners in my district, and most were well into age 5. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! What happened? Hmmmmm... Coup <cite>Medussa posted [p:921978654] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>I started kindergarten 6 weeks after my 5th birthday, and anyone more than a week or two younger than me had to wait until the next year. There were absolutely no 4 year old kindergartners in my district, and most were well into age 5.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 2:29:27 PM #344:	Medussa posted... I started kindergarten 6 weeks after my 5th birthday, and anyone more than a week or two younger than me had to wait until the next year. There were absolutely no 4 year old kindergartners in my district, and most were well into age 5. Oksy well then America is behind the 8 ball there, shocker. Regardless, 5 years is still way too young. It should be like 10+ --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921979080] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Medussa posted...</cite> <quote>I started kindergarten 6 weeks after my 5th birthday, and anyone more than a week or two younger than me had to wait until the next year. There were absolutely no 4 year old kindergartners in my district, and most were well into age 5.</quote> Oksy well then America is behind the 8 ball there, shocker. Regardless, 5 years is still way too young. It should be like 10+</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 05/16/19 2:46:14 PM #345:	burritosatan posted... Regardless, 5 years is still way too young. too young for the actual curriculum, or the strawman curriculum that you've built and tried repeatedly to pass off as the real thing? --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! What happened? Hmmmmm... Coup <cite>Medussa posted [p:921979784] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote>Regardless, 5 years is still way too young.</quote> too young for the actual curriculum, or the strawman curriculum that you've built and tried repeatedly to pass off as the real thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 05/16/19 3:39:18 PM #346:	King_Hellebuyck posted... You realize everyone knows youre trolling, right? I don't troll. So whatever you believe it to be is...well that's on you. I just say my opinion. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Thief's Theme: 4 Star Review::https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07J1HW7SP <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:921982145] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote>You realize everyone knows youre trolling, right?</quote> I don't troll. So whatever you believe it to be is...well that's on you. I just say my opinion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seraphim13 05/16/19 4:22:28 PM #347:	King_Hellebuyck posted... Seraphim13 posted... Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one.... Those are only grown issues to you because everyone had to repress themselves into adulthood (and beyond). There are trans children. There are gay children. There are gay and trans adults who children will interact with. There are consent issues that children need to be aware of so they dont get molested. We teach racial acceptance from a young age. There is no reason not to teach acceptance for LGBTQ people. kids should be aware that there's different types of sexuality as far as attraction but to go in and teach a kid how to use their wiener or their gender assigned private part is ridiculous. Kindergarten? Honestly. how about we just let them eat bugs pick their nose and do it kids do naturally not inquire about how Daddy and Daddy's boyfriend uncle get together and hook up.... <cite>Seraphim13 posted [p:921983894] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Seraphim13 posted...</cite> <quote>Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one....</quote> Those are only grown issues to you because everyone had to repress themselves into adulthood (and beyond). There are trans children. There are gay children. There are gay and trans adults who children will interact with. There are consent issues that children need to be aware of so they dont get molested. We teach racial acceptance from a young age. There is no reason not to teach acceptance for LGBTQ people.</quote> kids should be aware that there's different types of sexuality as far as attraction but to go in and teach a kid how to use their wiener or their gender assigned private part is ridiculous. Kindergarten? Honestly. how about we just let them eat bugs pick their nose and do it kids do naturally not inquire about how Daddy and Daddy's boyfriend uncle get together and hook up....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 5:08:55 PM #348:	Seraphim13 posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Seraphim13 posted... Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one.... Those are only grown issues to you because everyone had to repress themselves into adulthood (and beyond). There are trans children. There are gay children. There are gay and trans adults who children will interact with. There are consent issues that children need to be aware of so they dont get molested. We teach racial acceptance from a young age. There is no reason not to teach acceptance for LGBTQ people. kids should be aware that there's different types of sexuality as far as attraction but to go in and teach a kid how to use their wiener or their gender assigned private part is ridiculous. Kindergarten? Honestly. how about we just let them eat bugs pick their nose and do it kids do naturally not inquire about how Daddy and Daddy's boyfriend uncle get together and hook up.... No no we have to apparently cut childhood innocence way short --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:921985773] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Seraphim13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Seraphim13 posted...</cite> <quote>Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one....</quote> Those are only grown issues to you because everyone had to repress themselves into adulthood (and beyond). There are trans children. There are gay children. There are gay and trans adults who children will interact with. There are consent issues that children need to be aware of so they dont get molested. We teach racial acceptance from a young age. There is no reason not to teach acceptance for LGBTQ people.</quote> kids should be aware that there's different types of sexuality as far as attraction but to go in and teach a kid how to use their wiener or their gender assigned private part is ridiculous. Kindergarten? Honestly. how about we just let them eat bugs pick their nose and do it kids do naturally not inquire about how Daddy and Daddy's boyfriend uncle get together and hook up....</quote> No no we have to apparently cut childhood innocence way short</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MwarriorHiei 05/16/19 5:29:08 PM #349:	Seraphim13 posted... Kindergarten? Honestly. how about we just let them eat bugs pick their nose and do it kids do naturally not inquire about how Daddy and Daddy's boyfriend uncle get together and hook up.... why do you think thats gonna be taught to kindergartners? what will most likely be taught (if anything is taught during kindergarten) is "bad touch" and "some people have two mommies/two daddies and there is nothing wrong with that." sex ed is more than just teaching about sexual intercourse. --- http://i.imgtc.com/gkielsd.jpg <cite>MwarriorHiei posted [p:921986554] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Seraphim13 posted...</cite> <quote>Kindergarten? Honestly. how about we just let them eat bugs pick their nose and do it kids do naturally not inquire about how Daddy and Daddy's boyfriend uncle get together and hook up....</quote> why do you think thats gonna be taught to kindergartners? what will most likely be taught (if anything is taught during kindergarten) is "bad touch" and "some people have two mommies/two daddies and there is nothing wrong with that." sex ed is more than just teaching about sexual intercourse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Seraphim13 05/16/19 7:44:08 PM #350:	burritosatan posted... Seraphim13 posted... King_Hellebuyck posted... Seraphim13 posted... Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one.... Those are only grown issues to you because everyone had to repress themselves into adulthood (and beyond). There are trans children. There are gay children. There are gay and trans adults who children will interact with. There are consent issues that children need to be aware of so they dont get molested. We teach racial acceptance from a young age. There is no reason not to teach acceptance for LGBTQ people. kids should be aware that there's different types of sexuality as far as attraction but to go in and teach a kid how to use their wiener or their gender assigned private part is ridiculous. Kindergarten? Honestly. how about we just let them eat bugs pick their nose and do it kids do naturally not inquire about how Daddy and Daddy's boyfriend uncle get together and hook up.... No no we have to apparently cut childhood innocence way short Lol .... Shit, man. These "rights" and what creeple are fighting for are deeply questionable.... <cite>Seraphim13 posted [p:921991898] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>burritosatan posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Seraphim13 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>King_Hellebuyck posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Seraphim13 posted...</cite> <quote>Those are grown issues Children should not be involved in adult situations Let children be children. They're innocent and if they have questions that can be answered but it's not something that should be pursued or pressed upon them. When you take that right away you turn them away from being children and innocent. Why are Creeple so adamant about having them learn about things that they don't need to know about until they're older? In turn, they're not children anymore and it completely defiles and changes the definition of one....</quote> Those are only grown issues to you because everyone had to repress themselves into adulthood (and beyond). There are trans children. There are gay children. There are gay and trans adults who children will interact with. There are consent issues that children need to be aware of so they dont get molested. We teach racial acceptance from a young age. There is no reason not to teach acceptance for LGBTQ people.</quote> kids should be aware that there's different types of sexuality as far as attraction but to go in and teach a kid how to use their wiener or their gender assigned private part is ridiculous. Kindergarten? Honestly. how about we just let them eat bugs pick their nose and do it kids do naturally not inquire about how Daddy and Daddy's boyfriend uncle get together and hook up....</quote> No no we have to apparently cut childhood innocence way short</quote> Lol .... Shit, man. These "rights" and what creeple are fighting for are deeply questionable....</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blade-wolf 05/16/19 10:57:01 PM #351:	Monolith1676 posted... Let kids be kids. "Not without social indoctrination first. Kthxbye." --this topic --- hustler <cite>Blade-wolf posted [p:921999257] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Monolith1676 posted...</cite> <quote>Let kids be kids.</quote> "Not without social indoctrination first. Kthxbye." --this topic</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/16/19 11:05:59 PM #352:	None of this precludes letting kids be kids. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:921999563] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>None of this precludes letting kids be kids.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blade-wolf 05/16/19 11:21:49 PM #353:	Yeah yeah. They can still be kids, as long as they're programmed with what you feel is proper --- hustler <cite>Blade-wolf posted [p:922000161] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Yeah yeah. They can still be kids, as long as they're programmed with what you feel is proper</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 05/16/19 11:23:56 PM #354:	Knowledge about the world they live in. So controversial. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:922000241] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Knowledge about the world they live in. So controversial.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blade-wolf 05/16/19 11:26:34 PM #355:	Mmmhmm. --- hustler <cite>Blade-wolf posted [p:922000353] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote>Mmmhmm.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
burritosatan 05/16/19 11:32:52 PM #356:	Blade-wolf posted... Yeah yeah. They can still be kids, as long as they're programmed with what you feel is proper Don't bring religion into this --- Sony has never made a console that has less than 86 Million Sales. Nintendo has 7. ~~ If you come at the King, you best not miss ~~ <cite>burritosatan posted [p:922000625] in Controvers... [t:77712556]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blade-wolf posted...</cite> <quote>Yeah yeah. They can still be kids, as long as they're programmed with what you feel is proper</quote> Don't bring religion into this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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