Current Events > I've been hearing murmurs on the web that some folks didn't like ____ in Endgame

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_____ = Professor Hulk

How do you not love that shit? It was hilarious and awesome
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I didn't mind him but he was mostly comic relief, and his only real accomplishment in the movie was the snap
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It's less that they didn't like him, more that they wish he had gotten his rematch with Thanos.
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I can't believe people didn't enjoy the diner scene tbh.

That said, he was kinda a jerk imo. Like i feel over the course of IW and EG he didn't really have an arc or at least the substantial part of the arc was dealt with between films

Gobstoppers12 posted...

It's less that they didn't like him, more that they wish he had gotten his rematch with Thanos.

This
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Literally one of the best parts of an absolutely phenomenal movie.

What an arc that character has gone through with only having one movie (that hardly counts) to his name.

I personally disagree that Hulk needed a rematch with Thanos. I feel like hes evolved passed that. People arent giving enough credit given to the fact that a character once boiled down to literally Smash resurrected trillions of lives.

These damn movies man
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I love 50 year old Henry Rollins Hulk
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people love hulk smash, the didnt get any hulk smash.

would be cool if they dropped some hulk hands where ones holding some tacos and the others all shrivelled and burnt...
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Hulk isn't humor. And it wasn't that funny.

Hulk should've been Green Scar (best of both worlds) or be able to freely transform back and forth. Not a comedy dude who never does anything.
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"hey, could you smash some shit on the way?"

".....sure,....... rar..... grrrrr"
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I liked him, I thought it was funny, especially when he poses for the kids at the dinner and does the "fighting pose" smiling, or when he walks by and gives ant man a taco

But I can't ignore it's just a plot device to weaken male characters to give captn marvel her ex machina status. Thor gets fat, slobby, lazy and weeps like an idiot , we all know what happens to tony, hulk becomes 50 yr old henry rollins but green, etc. Heck, I am surprised they didn't give ant man a 10 foot height restriction so he doesn't look too powerful too.

Coastal_elite posted...

But I can't ignore it's just a plot device to weaken male characters to give captn marvel her ex machina status.

Lol wow

Malfunction posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

But I can't ignore it's just a plot device to weaken male characters to give captn marvel her ex machina status.

Lol wow

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Malfunction posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

But I can't ignore it's just a plot device to weaken male characters to give captn marvel her ex machina status.

Lol wow

right, some people think everything is a conspiracy.
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GasMonkey posted...

Malfunction posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

But I can't ignore it's just a plot device to weaken male characters to give captn marvel her ex machina status.

Lol wow

right, some people think everything is a conspiracy.

I mean, most male characters with superpowers were hilariously nerfed or killed off, right?

Coastal_elite posted...

I mean, most male characters with superpowers were hilariously nerfed or killed off, right?

Iron Man defeated Thanos. Cap wielded Mjolnir. Doctor Strange held back like, the whole ocean. Meanwhile, Captain Marvel got yeet'd out of the movie by one power stone punch.
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Gobstoppers12 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

I mean, most male characters with superpowers were hilariously nerfed or killed off, right?

Iron Man defeated Thanos. Cap wielded Mjolnir. Doctor Strange held back like, the whole ocean. Meanwhile, Captain Marvel got yeet'd out of the movie by one power stone punch.

that's the point, the cap is retired, ironman is dead, hulk is a soyboy, it all clears the way for her to look good in future films I forgot about strange, though.

Coastal_elite posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

I mean, most male characters with superpowers were hilariously nerfed or killed off, right?

Iron Man defeated Thanos. Cap wielded Mjolnir. Doctor Strange held back like, the whole ocean. Meanwhile, Captain Marvel got yeet'd out of the movie by one power stone punch.

that's the point, the cap is retired, ironman is dead, hulk is a soyboy, it all clears the way for her to look good in future films I forgot about strange, though.

brain worms

Malfunction posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

I mean, most male characters with superpowers were hilariously nerfed or killed off, right?

Iron Man defeated Thanos. Cap wielded Mjolnir. Doctor Strange held back like, the whole ocean. Meanwhile, Captain Marvel got yeet'd out of the movie by one power stone punch.

that's the point, the cap is retired, ironman is dead, hulk is a soyboy, it all clears the way for her to look good in future films I forgot about strange, though.

brain worms

Sorry to hear that, mate. Are you gonna be ok?

I really liked this Hulk. It's good to see him get to a good place in his life after ten years of his life being a mess. Finally getting to see him live his best life is so rewarding because it's a rare happy ending in this franchise. And that's key because after the tragedy of Infinity War the universe needs healing and not everyone can just spiral into depression like Thor (another plot point I love even if the tone of his portrayal is a bit inconsistent).

He's like Hank McCoy from the comics. I'm in love.
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hollow_shrine posted...

I really liked this Hulk. It's good to see him get to a good place in his life after ten years of his life being a mess. Finally getting to see him live his best life is so rewarding because it's a rare happy ending in this franchise. And that's key because after the tragedy of Infinity War the universe needs healing and not everyone can just spiral into depression like Thor (another plot point I love even if the tone of his portrayal is a bit inconsistent).

He's like Hank McCoy from the comics. I'm in love.

This. I guess some people don't watch for the characters.
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hollow_shrine posted...

I really liked this Hulk. It's good to see him get to a good place in his life after ten years of his life being a mess. Finally getting to see him live his best life is so rewarding because it's a rare happy ending in this franchise. And that's key because after the tragedy of Infinity War the universe needs healing and not everyone can just spiral into depression like Thor (another plot point I love even if the tone of his portrayal is a bit inconsistent).

He's like Hank McCoy from the comics. I'm in love.

This. Hulk and Bruce making peace and it sticking is great, and this is basically the only universe where that's happened. Plus he accomplishes the ultimate "fuck you" to Thanos, even more than a physical beatdown, by undoing his life's work via a combination of brains and brawn.

He goes from considering the Hulk a curse that can only destroy to utilizing the Hulk's power to create. It's fantastic.
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Murphiroth posted...

hollow_shrine posted...

I really liked this Hulk. It's good to see him get to a good place in his life after ten years of his life being a mess. Finally getting to see him live his best life is so rewarding because it's a rare happy ending in this franchise. And that's key because after the tragedy of Infinity War the universe needs healing and not everyone can just spiral into depression like Thor (another plot point I love even if the tone of his portrayal is a bit inconsistent).

He's like Hank McCoy from the comics. I'm in love.

This. Hulk and Bruce making peace and it sticking is great, and this is basically the only universe where that's happened. Plus he accomplishes the ultimate "fuck you" to Thanos, even more than a physical beatdown, by undoing his life's work via a combination of brains and brawn.

He goes from considering the Hulk a curse that can only destroy to utilizing the Hulk's power to create. It's fantastic.

Yeah, and even better is that it was his Hulk powers that made him able to use the gauntlet without dying. The movie implies that even Thor may not have survived.
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Coastal_elite posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

I mean, most male characters with superpowers were hilariously nerfed or killed off, right?

Iron Man defeated Thanos. Cap wielded Mjolnir. Doctor Strange held back like, the whole ocean. Meanwhile, Captain Marvel got yeet'd out of the movie by one power stone punch.

that's the point, the cap is retired, ironman is dead, hulk is a soyboy, it all clears the way for her to look good in future films I forgot about strange, though.

So your point is that the male characters were strong as fuck which means they were actually weak.

Thats also only two people killed off, and it has more to do with the actors wanting out of decade long roles than creative direction. Never mind that Black Widow was killed off too.
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I thought the CG was awkward, and while I don't expect the movies to perfectly emulate the comics, I remember "professor" Hulk and other times Banner was in charge, and prefer them to Ruffalo's attempted meek and babbling persona.

And yeah, I kind of wanted him to jump in at Thanos and say, "you aren't fighting the idiot this time."
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I know people love to complain about Captain Marvel, but they barely used that in the movie. At all.

boxington posted...

I didn't mind him but he was mostly comic relief, and his only real accomplishment in the movie was the snap

Was the only one who brought back an Inifinity Stone without a hitch. Also held up the rubble for everyone after they were attacked.
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Malfunction posted...

I can't believe people didn't enjoy the diner scene tbh.

It went on for too long. The damn movie was already three hours long. There were a bunch of scenes like that, which they could have kept, but at least shaved some time off of.

I get it, though. Hulk and Thor scenes were meant for comic relief.
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Lol ROD is back on his feminist boogeyman gimmick I see.
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I am definitely one of the people who are pissed that Hulk didn't get revenge against Thanos
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Prof Hulk just didn't make any sense to me. This was basically just Banner using Hulk's body, but the Hulk himself never came out, so it's like he's been entirely subdued and "killed off" in exchange for Banner to be permanently in charge.

The writers said that Ragnarok/IW/Endgame would show a Hulk arc, and...yeah? I guess it did. But I wasn't expecting this. I was expecting Hulk and Banner to reconcile or something and make it possible for them to switch back and forth whenever they wanted or something. But instead they basically just killed Hulk off and gave Banner all his strength...for no real reason since he doesn't actually fight.

I feel like I would've liked Prof Hulk more if we actually got the Hulk himself at some point in the movie, but we didn't. And now he's likely never going to show up again since the Original Six are being "retired" in one way or another.

SwayM posted...

People arent giving enough credit given to the fact that a character once boiled down to literally Smash resurrected trillions of lives.

But that's the thing. That wasn't the Hulk that did that, it was Banner.

The Hulk himself never even appeared in the movie outside of the 2012 segment.
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GS4Life posted...

Gobstoppers12 posted...

It's less that they didn't like him, more that they wish he had gotten his rematch with Thanos.

This

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GasMonkey posted...

Malfunction posted...

Coastal_elite posted...

But I can't ignore it's just a plot device to weaken male characters to give captn marvel her ex machina status.

Lol wow

right, some people think everything is a conspiracy.

If anything they were nerfed to give Steve Rogers more to do in the movie.

Im fine with Hulk staying like this, especially because no matter what happens to him in the comics he always goes back to the savage persona and that's boring as hell to me. its one of my many vices with super hero comics, they're never allowed to change and stay changed because the books have different writers, they're company product first and character second which is why they die and come back from the dead all the time.
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Knowledge_King posted...

Hulk isn't humor.

You're gonna have to explain this take.
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Knowledge_King posted...

Hulk isn't humor. And it wasn't that funny.

Hulk should've been Green Scar (best of both worlds) or be able to freely transform back and forth. Not a comedy dude who never does anything.

Hulk has been played for humor numerous times.
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SmidgeIsntBack posted...

Knowledge_King posted...

Hulk isn't humor.

You're gonna have to explain this take.

I...don't think Hulk should be played for humor. Pretty straight forward.

RchHomieQuanChi posted...

Hulk has been played for humor numerous times.

I can't remember. If he has, I probably didn't like it. So my opinion would remain the same.
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even if a rematch happened, Thanos would likely kick his ass again. He literally wrecked Thor, Cap and IM all at once. He just outclasses everyone in hand to hand combat.
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Hulk has primarily been played for humor in the entire Avengers series, how could you have missed it?
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King_Hellebuyck posted...

Hulk has primarily been played for humor in the entire Avengers series, how could you have missed it?

I don't think that's right, actually. Hulk has a funny moment in each film, yes. But Avengers and AoU use the Hulk more for drama for Banner (and his relationship prospects) in both of these movies than they do humor. If the first Avengers movie is how awesome having a Hulk is (if he's on your side), the second is about how scary he is when he isn't and how dangerous he is when he's out of control. As funny as Ragnarok is, that's inarguably Banner at his lowest moment having completely lost control of his life and being actively trapped by his super-powered who resents the powerlessness he feels when Banner is in control.
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I think it was a fine situation for the character, but it didn't at all fit into what they did with him in Infinity War. There was no buildup to him making peace with the Hulk. It was purely the Hulk being beaten and scared. He also didn't get to participate in the final battle despite technically being one of the main Avengers.

nemu posted...

I think it was a fine situation for the character, but it didn't at all fit into what they did with him in Infinity War. There was no buildup to him making peace with the Hulk. It was purely the Hulk being beaten and scared. He also didn't get to participate in the final battle despite technically being one of the main Avengers.

He's there for a hot second in the fight, he's just not fighting Thanos. Given his condition, that's probably a good thing.
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