Current Events > Why is it acceptable to say 'Transgender' and not 'person/man/woman'

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Doe
12/28/18 10:37:33 PM
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Like these baity topics on here "Transgender throws bitchfit"
I thought the point of going transgender is to have the identity of the preferred gender, not the new identity OF 'transgender'
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Eevee-Trainer
12/28/18 10:54:19 PM
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CE likes to stroke its hate boner for trans people every few months.

I wouldn't give any further thought to it.
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bevan306
12/28/18 10:55:55 PM
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ya some folk have an axe to grind
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Mystery_Mission
12/28/18 10:56:05 PM
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they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.
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s0nicfan
12/28/18 10:57:25 PM
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For the same reason that posters create topics like "white cop shoots black person"
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QueenCarly
12/28/18 10:58:07 PM
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It isn't okay to refer to trans people with:

Transgendered
Transgender used as a noun
Dehumanizing terms like "it" or the t word
Their incorrect gender
Etc.

CE and society at large doesn't agree with this.
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QueenCarly
12/28/18 10:58:51 PM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.


Trans women and men are as "regular" as any cis person.
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FLUFFYGERM
12/28/18 11:00:24 PM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.

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Nidhoggr
12/28/18 11:01:02 PM
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QueenCarly posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.


Trans women and men are as "regular" as any cis person.

Imagine believing this.
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QueenCarly
12/28/18 11:03:07 PM
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Nidhoggr posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.


Trans women and men are as "regular" as any cis person.

Imagine believing this.


Imagine not
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A_Good_Boy
12/28/18 11:03:33 PM
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Weird how the peeps upset at being called deplorable are the ones bending over backwards to deny transgender people the same right of self identification that they elected Trump for.
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refmon
12/28/18 11:05:47 PM
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FLUFFYGERM posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.

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s0nicfan
12/28/18 11:09:26 PM
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QueenCarly posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.


Trans women and men are as "regular" as any cis person.


If a transgendered person was beat or killed, would you prefer that the news story mention that they were transgendered, or should they treat them like every other person?
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A_Good_Boy
12/28/18 11:12:29 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.


Trans women and men are as "regular" as any cis person.


If a transgendered person was beat or killed, would you prefer that the news story mention that they were transgendered, or should they treat them like every other person?

They'd probably refer to them as transgendered initially, then proceed to use their preferred pronoun from thereon afterward.
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QueenCarly
12/28/18 11:12:52 PM
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s0nicfan posted...
QueenCarly posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.


Trans women and men are as "regular" as any cis person.


If a transgendered person was beat or killed, would you prefer that the news story mention that they were transgendered, or should they treat them like every other person?


Get rid of the -ed first of all.

Them being trans would most likely be a relevant fact in their murder.

I would prefer we as a society start treating trans people as fucking human.
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Mareen
12/28/18 11:22:47 PM
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Largely because trans people aren't normalized in society, well, speaking from a US point of view anyway. Hence the distinction.
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ClockworkHare
12/29/18 10:11:29 AM
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Doe posted...
I thought the point of going transgender is to have the identity of the preferred gender, not the new identity OF 'transgender'

You basically get both, whether you want it or not.

So says the majority of society.
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ThyCorndog
12/29/18 10:21:56 AM
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we should only use human

human throws bitchfit

human cop shoots a human person
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Middle hope
12/29/18 10:27:59 AM
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ThyCorndog posted...
we should only use human

human throws bitchfit

human cop shoots a human person

What if they identify as otherkin? That would be bigoted.
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PowerfulSageIRL
12/29/18 10:31:18 AM
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yeah using "transgender" as a noun is dehumanising and definitely not ok
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hollow_shrine
12/29/18 10:39:20 AM
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PowerfulSageIRL posted...
yeah using "transgender" as a noun is dehumanising and definitely not ok

And it's a clear decision not to refer to them in more natural verbiage that emphasizes their humanity (transman, transwoman, transpeople, etc) the way we do everything else. It's a quietly insidious way of reminding your reader that you think transpeople are fundamentally different from other people.
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PowerfulSageIRL
12/29/18 10:50:33 AM
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hollow_shrine posted...
PowerfulSageIRL posted...
yeah using "transgender" as a noun is dehumanising and definitely not ok

And it's a clear decision not to refer to them in more natural verbiage that emphasizes their humanity (transman, transwoman, transpeople, etc) the way we do everything else. It's a quietly insidious way of reminding your reader that you think transpeople are fundamentally different from other people.

it's pretty similar to referring to black people as "the blacks"
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Vicious_Dios
12/29/18 10:54:03 AM
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refmon posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Mystery_Mission posted...
they should be identified as transgender or transman/woman etc. because it's not the same as being a regular man/woman.

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Medussa
12/29/18 10:55:43 AM
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hollow_shrine posted...
PowerfulSageIRL posted...
yeah using "transgender" as a noun is dehumanising and definitely not ok

And it's a clear decision not to refer to them in more natural verbiage that emphasizes their humanity (transman, transwoman, transpeople, etc) the way we do everything else. It's a quietly insidious way of reminding your reader that you think transpeople are fundamentally different from other people.


transpeople, etc, isn't great, either. trans woman, trans people. the space is important. It's not like we say blackwoman or blondewoman, right? unless we're speaking German
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Ryuko_Chan
12/29/18 11:09:29 AM
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It doesnt even sound right.

Local transgender eats slice of bread.

Vs.

Local trans woman eats slice of bread.

I guess its intentional and done to further the dehumanization.

Its not grammatically correct either. Itd be like saying a tall instead of a tall man...
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Ryuko_Chan
12/30/18 4:03:13 AM
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Bump
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