Current Events > Jon Jones goes ham at female reporter who questioned his latest drug violations.

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For those unfamilar with the background, Jon Jones is arguably the greatest MMA fighter of his ilk but has for the 3rd time failed drug tests. This time so badly that the UFC have to move their upcoming PPV to a new location at the last minute as the previous one wouldn't liscence him due to his drug usage.

Everyone is acting like this is okay and no one is talking about it. Until now.

A room full of 6+ foot muscular profressional fighters and a little fat girl has bigger balls than anyone else.

Really says a lot don't it?
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Everyone is acting like this is okay and no one is talking about it. Until now.

A room full of 6+ foot muscular profressional fighters and a little fat girl has bigger balls than anyone else.

Really says a lot don't it?

Other fighters have complained about Jon Jones quite a lot. Cris Cyborg, who is also on the card, recently did in an interview about it. They just blame the UFC rather than him, which makes sense since it is their choice to continue to cater to him to the detriment of other athletes
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Balrog0 posted...

Other fighters have complained about Jon Jones quite a lot. Cris Cyborg, who is also on the card, recently did in an interview about it.

Cris Cyborg is literally sitting next to Jon Jones and smiles while dismissing the journalist questioning him.
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Why have rules if people aren't gonna follow them?

They handled the question very unprofessionally except that Alex dude. He spoke his mind.
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All sports have the ability to stop drug usage they simply choose not to. Zero tolerance policy. You fail the test you are out of the league for good no second chances. Is that a good idea? Probably not. But it will stop the drug use.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

Balrog0 posted...

Other fighters have complained about Jon Jones quite a lot. Cris Cyborg, who is also on the card, recently did in an interview about it.

Cris Cyborg is literally sitting next to Jon Jones and smiles while dismissing the journalist questioning him.

So?
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BTW it isn't like he is the first guy in the sport to juice, but this is an era where MMA is maybe the most strict sport and he is abusing it worse than anyone while no one else really is. At least when guys used to do it, they were usually both on it amd it was an even playing field.

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

BTW it isn't like he is the first guy in the sport to juice, but this is an era where MMA is maybe the most strict sport and he is abusing it worse than anyone while no one else really is. At least when guys used to do it, they were usually both on it amd it was an even playing field.

The problem is that there are other people who are currently suspended that have the same excuse he does -- that the amount of the banned substance is such that it is most likely to be from his previous violation and not a new one.
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Balrog0 posted...

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

BTW it isn't like he is the first guy in the sport to juice, but this is an era where MMA is maybe the most strict sport and he is abusing it worse than anyone while no one else really is. At least when guys used to do it, they were usually both on it amd it was an even playing field.

The problem is that there are other people who are currently suspended that have the same excuse he does -- that the amount of the banned substance is such that it is most likely to be from his previous violation and not a new one.

He must be making UFC alot of money for them to be turning a blind eye. That's the only reason I can think of since they haven't banned him yet.
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Zerocide posted...

Balrog0 posted...

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

BTW it isn't like he is the first guy in the sport to juice, but this is an era where MMA is maybe the most strict sport and he is abusing it worse than anyone while no one else really is. At least when guys used to do it, they were usually both on it amd it was an even playing field.

The problem is that there are other people who are currently suspended that have the same excuse he does -- that the amount of the banned substance is such that it is most likely to be from his previous violation and not a new one.

He must be making UFC alot of money for them to be turning a blind eye. That's the only reason I can think of since they haven't banned him yet.

They helped Brock cheat too.

Zerocide posted...

Balrog0 posted...

MARKINGRAM22 posted...

BTW it isn't like he is the first guy in the sport to juice, but this is an era where MMA is maybe the most strict sport and he is abusing it worse than anyone while no one else really is. At least when guys used to do it, they were usually both on it amd it was an even playing field.

The problem is that there are other people who are currently suspended that have the same excuse he does -- that the amount of the banned substance is such that it is most likely to be from his previous violation and not a new one.

He must be making UFC alot of money for them to be turning a blind eye. That's the only reason I can think of since they haven't banned him yet.

"sport"
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It's even more complicated than that, actually. The organization that made the call is USADA, which is independent from the UFC. The decision makes no sense, but bribery doesn't either. They took down Lance Armstrong who certainly had more of an ability to pay them off.

If anything -- and this is kind of a Trumpian angle -- it could be that the UFC is just leveraging their relationships. Their VP for health/performance is a former FDA/IRS agent who worked with USADA to investigate things like the Armstrong doping case.
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God damn, even Lance Armstrong is dunking on him
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Conor McGregor shouldn't have been let back in the UFC and should have been banned from the US
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ScazarMeltex posted...

All sports have the ability to stop drug usage they simply choose not to. Zero tolerance policy. You fail the test you are out of the league for good no second chances. Is that a good idea? Probably not. But it will stop the drug use.

No it won't. But it's still a good step.
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Jon Jones is a juicing, eye poking, cheater piece of shit.

Fuck him.

UFC can't run from it's problems by changing venue, eventually other fighters won't tolerate it no matter how much money you throw at them.
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clearaflagrantj posted...

Jon Jones is a juicing, eye poking, cheater piece of shit.

Fuck him.

He's also rude
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ScazarMeltex posted...

All sports have the ability to stop drug usage they simply choose not to. Zero tolerance policy. You fail the test you are out of the league for good no second chances. Is that a good idea? Probably not. But it will stop the drug use.

This is overly simplistic and harsh. It would not reach the desired effect and would result in kicking out innocent people.

The Jones thing is interesting because of what the organization is doing in response. Instead of being careful and stopping him from fighting while they figure out what happened they move the entire event to a place that will allow him to fight. It fucks over the people that wanted to watch it and some of the fighters lower down the card and allows a guy that was probably using a prohibited substance to fight.
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untrustful posted...

UFC can't run from it's problems by changing venue, eventually other fighters won't tolerate it no matter how much money you throw at them.

Yea they will
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Conor McGregor shouldn't have been let back in the UFC and should have been banned from the US

Huh
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1NfamousACE_2 posted...

untrustful posted...

UFC can't run from it's problems by changing venue, eventually other fighters won't tolerate it no matter how much money you throw at them.

Yea they will

this sadly
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I don't know who is a bigger waste of potential, Josh Gordon or Bones.
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The UFC will go under before Dana stops protecting Jon Jones. I think he's an amazing fighter but he is just terrible for the industry.
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SSMajinVegeta2 posted...

1NfamousACE_2 posted...

Conor McGregor shouldn't have been let back in the UFC and should have been banned from the US

Huh

When he attacked the bus before UFC 223

The fact that Dana allowed him to fight again in the UFC should show you that the UFC doesn't care.
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From what Jeff Novitzky said, he only testes positive for the long term metabolites, which provide no no benefit or something. The period in which he was tested was close enough to a previous test (like 20 days) that he would have had to test positive to for the short and medium term metabolites as well, but was clean. The going theory is that it's a pulsing effect with the long term metabolites.

That's not to say Jon isn't a POS idiot, but I'm not sure he actually took anythingthis time. This is the same steroid he tested positive for the last time, but there's no indication of the metabolites that should be present if he ingested it between tests. Not to mention the tested levels in his tests have always been at 0 or so microscopic an account they were determined by outside arbitrators to be of no benefit to performance.
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codey posted...

From what Jeff Novitzky said, he only testes positive for the long term metabolites, which provide no no benefit or something. The period in which he was tested was close enough to a previous test (like 20 days) that he would have had to test positive to for the short and medium term metabolites as well, but was clean. The going theory is that it's a pulsing effect with the long term metabolites.

That's not to say Jon isn't a POS idiot, but I'm not sure he actually took anythingthis time. This is the same steroid he tested positive for the last time, but there's no indication of the metabolites that should be present if he ingested it between tests. Not to mention the tested levels in his tests have always been at 0 or so microscopic an account they were determined by outside arbitrators to be of no benefit to performance.

The problem is USADA has suspended others that have similar stories and testing histories, like Frank Mir. Even if you think the story is plausible, and it is, it's a different decision than they've made in the past under very similar circumstances
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Balrog0 posted...

codey posted...

From what Jeff Novitzky said, he only testes positive for the long term metabolites, which provide no no benefit or something. The period in which he was tested was close enough to a previous test (like 20 days) that he would have had to test positive to for the short and medium term metabolites as well, but was clean. The going theory is that it's a pulsing effect with the long term metabolites.

That's not to say Jon isn't a POS idiot, but I'm not sure he actually took anythingthis time. This is the same steroid he tested positive for the last time, but there's no indication of the metabolites that should be present if he ingested it between tests. Not to mention the tested levels in his tests have always been at 0 or so microscopic an account they were determined by outside arbitrators to be of no benefit to performance.

The problem is USADA has suspended others that have similar stories and testing histories, like Frank Mir. Even if you think the story is plausible, and it is, it's a different decision than they've made in the past under very similar circumstances

Oh I agree 100%, I just also happen to think usada has been far too strict at times in the past.
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This specific drug allows you to retain strength whilst weight cutting. He's fucking trying to cheat as the fight approaches.

As for claiming it was a microscopic amount from last year, fuck off. It is a half life measured in a few weeks.

UnfairRepresent posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Jon Jones is a juicing, eye poking, cheater piece of shit.

Fuck him.

He's also rude

Jones literally did a hit and run on a pregnant lady. The man is a legit sociopath.

Grischnak posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Jon Jones is a juicing, eye poking, cheater piece of shit.

Fuck him.

He's also rude

Jones literally did a hit and run on a pregnant lady. The man is a legit sociopath.

I don't think he is a sociopath since he gets so emotional and angry when criticized or challenged

I think he's just dumb
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Thats roid rage

UnfairRepresent posted...

Grischnak posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Jon Jones is a juicing, eye poking, cheater piece of shit.

Fuck him.

He's also rude

Jones literally did a hit and run on a pregnant lady. The man is a legit sociopath.

I don't think he is a sociopath since he gets so emotional and angry when criticized or challenged

I think he's just dumb

Does being a sociopath require a complete lack of emotions? I thought it just required a lack of conscience. Anyway, dude's a piece of shit. That's the main point.

ArchiePeck posted...

This specific drug allows you to retain strength whilst weight cutting. He's fucking trying to cheat as the fight approaches.

As for claiming it was a microscopic amount from last year, fuck off. It is a half life measured in a few weeks.

The short and medium term metabolites do, but the long term metabolites have been proven to stick around for a long time.
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Grischnak posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Grischnak posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

Jon Jones is a juicing, eye poking, cheater piece of shit.

Fuck him.

He's also rude

Jones literally did a hit and run on a pregnant lady. The man is a legit sociopath.

I don't think he is a sociopath since he gets so emotional and angry when criticized or challenged

I think he's just dumb

Does being a sociopath require a complete lack of emotions? I thought it just required a lack of conscience. Anyway, dude's a piece of shit. That's the main point.

A sociopath won't care that you insult her unless you're a threat to her
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This whole thing is shady as hell. I sympathize with the lower tier fighters who are held to a different (i.e. far more strict) standard than Jon Jones, but what can they do? They are struggling to make ends meet and are wary of rocking the boat. Dana, that fucking clown, will keep protecting Jones, as much as he can. I remember when Dana said Jon Jones would never headline another fight. And yet here we are again, and Jones still found a way to fuck things up.
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Balrog0 posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

Balrog0 posted...

Other fighters have complained about Jon Jones quite a lot. Cris Cyborg, who is also on the card, recently did in an interview about it.

Cris Cyborg is literally sitting next to Jon Jones and smiles while dismissing the journalist questioning him.

So?

It's funny because Cyborg has tested positive for PED's before. Jon Jones makes Cyborg look like an angel.
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professional MMA fighters on roids? Say it aint so
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CasualGuy posted...

professional MMA fighters on roids? Say it aint so

Wasn't roids
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Also, how is the UFC "protecting" Jones when this venue change is probably going to lose the company some significant gate money?

EnterTheTekken posted...

Also, how is the UFC "protecting" Jones when this venue change is probably going to lose the company some significant gate money?

Because they are letting him fight instead of firing him for his 3rd violation.

And gate money is close to meaningless in todays world
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