Current Events > Trump's now threatening to close the 'entire Southern border' over his wall

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Giant_Aspirin
12/28/18 3:29:20 PM
#51:


SterlingM posted...
after trump beefed it up it worked


Trump didn't take office until 2017 and the decline started in 2007.
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Tmaster148
12/28/18 3:31:01 PM
#52:


SterlingM posted...
after trump beefed it up it worked


So you agree that a wall is unnecessary.
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SterlingM
12/28/18 3:33:50 PM
#53:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
SterlingM posted...
after trump beefed it up it worked


Trump didn't take office until 2017 and the decline started in 2007.

that was about the caravan

and a wall is needed so we don't have to send troops there
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Tmaster148
12/28/18 3:35:03 PM
#54:


SterlingM posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
SterlingM posted...
after trump beefed it up it worked


Trump didn't take office until 2017 and the decline started in 2007.

that was about the caravan

and a wall is needed so we don't have to send troops there


The hilarious thing is you are literally suggesting we leave our borders unprotected.

A wall may make it harder for people to cross over, but without people watching the border nothing stops people who do make it over.
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RiderofHogs
12/28/18 3:35:32 PM
#55:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
Nintendo415 posted...
Ds just want to let our land be invaded by anyone.


false.

i just think a wall is nothing more than a monument to xenophobia. it will have no practical affect on deterring illegal immigration.

Tell that to ancient China and their mighty wall.
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A_Good_Boy
12/28/18 3:36:32 PM
#56:


RiderofHogs posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Nintendo415 posted...
Ds just want to let our land be invaded by anyone.


false.

i just think a wall is nothing more than a monument to xenophobia. it will have no practical affect on deterring illegal immigration.

Tell that to ancient China and their mighty wall.

The one that even the Disney movie depicted the huns just chilling out on in the very first scene of Mulan?
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SterlingM
12/28/18 3:38:25 PM
#57:


Tmaster148 posted...
A wall may make it harder for people to cross over, but without people watching the border nothing stops people who do make it over.

did I say fire border patrol too?
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RiderofHogs
12/28/18 3:42:53 PM
#58:


A_Good_Boy posted...
RiderofHogs posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Nintendo415 posted...
Ds just want to let our land be invaded by anyone.


false.

i just think a wall is nothing more than a monument to xenophobia. it will have no practical affect on deterring illegal immigration.

Tell that to ancient China and their mighty wall.

The one that even the Disney movie depicted the huns just chilling out on in the very first scene of Mulan?

Mulan is a true story?
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ElatedVenusaur
12/28/18 3:57:30 PM
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It's like he wants Mitch McConnell to stab him in the back.
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Bio1590
12/28/18 4:03:58 PM
#60:


RiderofHogs posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Nintendo415 posted...
Ds just want to let our land be invaded by anyone.


false.

i just think a wall is nothing more than a monument to xenophobia. it will have no practical affect on deterring illegal immigration.

Tell that to ancient China and their mighty wall.

The wall that was breached many times in its history?
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RiderofHogs
12/28/18 4:19:40 PM
#61:


Bio1590 posted...
The wall that was breached many times in its history?

How much money do you think that wall makes China just because people come to see it?
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Giant_Aspirin
12/28/18 4:25:15 PM
#62:


RiderofHogs posted...
Bio1590 posted...
The wall that was breached many times in its history?

How much money do you think that wall makes China just because people come to see it?


dont strawman
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Sonicblack35
12/28/18 4:32:43 PM
#63:


RiderofHogs posted...
Bio1590 posted...
The wall that was breached many times in its history?

How much money do you think that wall makes China just because people come to see it?


How much of that has to do with the history associated with the great wall? It's ancient. Who the fuck is going to visit a big, new wall between America and Mexico?

Edit: But yes, you also quite clearly pivoted your argument. Any interest in ACTUALLY responding to Bio?
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codey
12/28/18 4:33:54 PM
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Remember when he tweeted about how awesome the border patrol was for not allowing any of the migrant caravan through, essentially confirming we don't the wall?
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codey
12/28/18 4:34:49 PM
#65:


RiderofHogs posted...
Bio1590 posted...
The wall that was breached many times in its history?

How much money do you think that wall makes China just because people come to see it?


Why would anyone go to the desert to look at a fence?
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masterpug53
12/28/18 4:42:17 PM
#66:


RiderofHogs posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Nintendo415 posted...
Ds just want to let our land be invaded by anyone.


false.

i just think a wall is nothing more than a monument to xenophobia. it will have no practical affect on deterring illegal immigration.

Tell that to ancient China and their mighty wall.


Thanks for bringing full circle the notion that Trump's boondoggle is a 1st century approach to a 21st century problem.
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Shiba_Inu
12/28/18 4:43:36 PM
#67:


SterlingM posted...
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2017/apr/23/mick-mulvaney/fact-check-did-top-democrats-vote-border-wall-2006/

but democrats want open boarders right


Boarders went bankrupt years ago. Barnes and Noble got its business. Shut up
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MaxEffingBemis
12/28/18 4:45:38 PM
#68:


RiderofHogs posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
RiderofHogs posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Nintendo415 posted...
Ds just want to let our land be invaded by anyone.


false.

i just think a wall is nothing more than a monument to xenophobia. it will have no practical affect on deterring illegal immigration.

Tell that to ancient China and their mighty wall.

The one that even the Disney movie depicted the huns just chilling out on in the very first scene of Mulan?

Mulan is a true story?

Yeah...
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SpaghettiCookie
12/28/18 4:48:40 PM
#69:


How? With what Wall
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Giant_Aspirin
12/28/18 4:56:25 PM
#70:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
SterlingM posted...

so can we stop acting like this is about racism and xenophobia?


that's all its about because the wall won't actually prevent anything notable from happening. it's basically just a giant middle finger to all countries south of us saying "STAY OUT". literally the antithesis of America.


a good editorial covering exactly this

https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/trump-s-border-wall-was-never-just-about-security-it-ncna952011
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AmericaTheBrave
12/28/18 5:02:41 PM
#71:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
SterlingM posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
creativerealms posted...
Somehow both these things are what the far right believes. At the same time.


they are masters of Doublethink

Trump hates immigrants
Obama loves immigrants

somehow these are things the left believes


Trump's wife and her parents are immigrants. clearly Trump doesn't hate all of them. just certain ones.


Trump's mother was an immigrant as was his paternal grandfather.
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RiderofHogs
12/28/18 5:14:12 PM
#72:


Sonicblack35 posted...
Who the fuck is going to visit a big, new wall between America and Mexico?

We just make it look cool. Add some badass gargoyle and shit. If we build it they will come.
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A_Good_Boy
12/28/18 5:20:34 PM
#73:


RiderofHogs posted...
Sonicblack35 posted...
Who the fuck is going to visit a big, new wall between America and Mexico?

We just make it look cool. Add some badass gargoyle and shit. If we build it they will come.

Seems like it would be pretty poor for security to deliberately attract tourists towards the wall while simultaneously trying to keep people from crossing it.
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bover_87
12/28/18 5:40:27 PM
#74:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
SterlingM posted...

so can we stop acting like this is about racism and xenophobia?


that's all its about because the wall won't actually prevent anything notable from happening. it's basically just a giant middle finger to all countries south of us saying "STAY OUT". literally the antithesis of America.

That's not all it's about, it's also about handing government money to Trump's friends (or even Trump himself) to actually build the wall.
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The_OD
12/28/18 6:36:46 PM
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He wouldnt be the first president to close our borders.
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CADE FOSTER
12/28/18 6:53:17 PM
#76:


Tmaster148 posted...
The caravan didn't just walk into the US now did it? The fence and border security does the job well enough.

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ScazarMeltex
12/28/18 6:53:54 PM
#77:


Fuck off. You want to fix illegal immigration in this country start fining companies and jailing the business owners that hire them. They come here because there are jobs for them and it's better than their home country. Companies hire them because they can use as them and treat them as little better than slave labor.

Republican's will never do this because they rely heavily on donations from businesses that do just that. They don't want to end illegal immigration, their cronies rely on the cheap labor. What they want to do is to pander to their racist and xenophobic base of ignorant crackers.
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steveoSEK
12/28/18 6:54:24 PM
#78:


This would really suck. Mexico is my states biggest trading partner.
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tennisdude818
12/28/18 6:57:32 PM
#79:


We built a wall for Israel. It seems to work for them. Trump should just tell the Democrats that this one is for Israel as well.
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CADE FOSTER
12/28/18 7:01:38 PM
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Tell the Gop billlionaires to pay for it 2 years they had full control the gop passed the buck to the dems to little to late no wall ever we have a fence its enough
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Ray_Dorset
12/28/18 7:05:41 PM
#81:


CADE FOSTER posted...
Tell the Gop billlionaires to pay for it 2 years they had full control the gop passed the buck to the dems to little to late no wall ever we have a fence its enough


Yep, for two years they could've passed a funding bill with money for the wall. Of course now at the eleventh hour, it's worth shutting down the government over.
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Ps2Twilight
12/28/18 7:06:33 PM
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Axiom
12/28/18 7:06:34 PM
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He's so desperate to get this done before he leaves in 2020
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Dark_SilverX
12/28/18 7:10:56 PM
#84:


Nintendo415 posted...
Its whats best for this country. Ds just want to let our land be invaded by anyone. Trump is what is right for america

Hello Trump Jr.
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1NfamousACE_2
12/28/18 7:11:24 PM
#85:


We need that wall before another migrant caravan comes!
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Giant_Aspirin
12/28/18 7:22:04 PM
#86:


ScazarMeltex posted...
Fuck off. You want to fix illegal immigration in this country start fining companies and jailing the business owners that hire them. They come here because there are jobs for them and it's better than their home country. Companies hire them because they can use as them and treat them as little better than slave labor.

Republican's will never do this because they rely heavily on donations from businesses that do just that. They don't want to end illegal immigration, their cronies rely on the cheap labor. What they want to do is to pander to their racist and xenophobic base of ignorant crackers.


well said.

i like mentioning that jobs can't be taken, jobs are given. and, like you said, the only reason those people come illegally is because they know that someone will give them a job if they're willing to work cheap enough.

immigrants don't take your jobs. the free market does.
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008Zulu
12/28/18 7:34:40 PM
#87:


Petulant man-child is petulant. Trump would reduce the world to ashes if he could lord over the ruin of it all.
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Giant_Aspirin
12/28/18 7:38:18 PM
#88:


008Zulu posted...
Petulant man-child is petulant. Trump would reduce the world to ashes if he could lord over the ruin of it all.


but then there would be nobody left to give him the constant reassurance and praise his fragile ego depends on
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Vita_Aeterna
12/28/18 7:41:10 PM
#89:


Ps2Twilight posted...
But I thought Mexico was going to pay for it

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P4wn4g3
12/28/18 8:43:50 PM
#90:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
008Zulu posted...
Petulant man-child is petulant. Trump would reduce the world to ashes if he could lord over the ruin of it all.


but then there would be nobody left to give him the constant reassurance and praise his fragile ego depends on

Correction: nobody could disagree with him
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