Current Events > Switch sounds like a downgrade if you list what it's missing

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No virtual console
No ethernet port, which has been standard in home electronics for years
No voice chat or messaging
No sending invites to your friends(what is the point of the friends list)

the wii u included like all of this except the ethernet port
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Xbone
- no games
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No HDMI
No WiFi

Launch Xbox 360
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SoundNetwork posted...

Xbone
- no games

Except for almost every third party game

Which is more than the Switch can say

DarkRoast posted...

No HDMI
No WiFi

Launch Xbox 360

Golly, I guess the Switch is better than a console from 2005 after all.

Akagami_Shanks posted...

No virtual console

That's not true. It's just NES games right now. They're adding online functionality.
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The NES isn't VC. Nintendo stated Switch is never getting VC.
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But it's portable, so I love it.
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As long as they keep adding gimmicks, it wont change in the future. Isnt it the best-selling console of all time now?

Dont get me wrong, I bought one myself a few months ago and had a good amount of fun playing BotW but the way I relax I like to be able to switch (ha) between games and streaming services frequently so my PS4 is the go-to console. Switch has been collecting dust for a while now. Plus more and better exclusives is nice, along with more 3rd party games.
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EzeDoesIt posted...

Isnt it the best-selling console of all time now?

No, not even close.
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Switch didnt even have a youtube app until recently lol

And it has a long way to go to get best selling console. Switch sales will probably stagnate in a year or so
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

Switch didnt even have a youtube app until recently lol

And it has a long way to go to get best selling console. Switch sales will probably stagnate in a year or so

Doubt it
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I feel like the Switch is going to end up being a lower-scale Wii phenomenon where people eat up the hardware but have almost no attachment to it >>_
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BLAKUboy posted...

EzeDoesIt posted...

Isnt it the best-selling console of all time now?

No, not even close.

fastest selling
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The Wii U is pretty underrated, tbh. This probably isn't a popular opinion but I think the tablet craze at the time of its release kind of hurt it, because the trend at the time was for increasingly sleek designs and the Wii U gamepad had all that border which made it look old and clunky.

AlisLandale posted...

I feel like the Switch is going to end up being a lower-scale Wii phenomenon where people eat up the hardware but have almost no attachment to it >>_

Yeah, that's my impression. People are buying up the system but the only worthwhile software is first-party, and there's only so much of that.
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It should always be considered a handheld first and foremost. The ability to output to a TV doesn't change that.

Trelve posted...

DarkRoast posted...

No HDMI
No WiFi

Launch Xbox 360

Golly, I guess the Switch is better than a console from 2005 after all.

And at least the 360 had an ethernet port. Was 2005 Wi-fi even useful for anything?
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Irony posted...

The NES isn't VC. Nintendo stated Switch is never getting VC.

VC is just Nintendo's proprietary emulator. It's not some magical shit that only exists on Software titled "Virtual Console"
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Irony posted...

The NES isn't VC. Nintendo stated Switch is never getting VC.

VC is just Nintendo's proprietary emulator. It's not some magical shit that only exists on Software titled "Virtual Console"

Can you actually pay to own Switch VC games? I thought it was a subscription service
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SSJCAT posted...

BLAKUboy posted...

EzeDoesIt posted...

Isnt it the best-selling console of all time now?

No, not even close.

fastest selling

thats right, thanks
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why do people bitch about the wifi on the system? i've played dozens of hours of mario cart with just wifi with no issue, maybe the problem is complainers are incompetent fucks that cant set up a wifi network?
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It makes more sense if you consider it an advanced handheld, which it basically is.
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Not sure what the plan is for emulation. They are rolling out NES games for free (well, a couple bucks a month) so theres that.

Nintendo online multiplayer has always sucked so no surprise there.

The only glaring thing from that list is the Ethernet port.
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I think the last time I worried about running on WiFi rather than ethernet was 2009.

Idk why anyone would willingly use ethernet these days, tbh, except for intranets.
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monkmith posted...

why do people bitch about the wifi on the system? i've played dozens of hours of mario cart with just wifi with no issue, maybe the problem is complainers are incompetent fucks that cant set up a wifi network?

Go to the smash boards and tell them that then
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

No virtual console
No ethernet port, which has been standard in home electronics for years
No voice chat or messaging
No sending invites to your friends(what is the point of the friends list)

the wii u included like all of this except the ethernet port

Wii U had no voice chat and no messaging. Miiverse hardly counted as messaging considering they were hardly even notified when they receive a message, and it's gone now

While i love the switch, i agree that the whole friends system is bullshit.
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I just dont understand why they dont allow you to bluetooth headphones to it. who the fuck still uses wired headphones?
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COVxy posted...

I think the last time I worried about running on WiFi rather than ethernet was 2009.

Idk why anyone would willingly use ethernet these days, tbh, except for intranets.

Because sometimes my PS4 decides it wants to disconnect from my router and not reconnect for a few days.

Also my wired speeds are consistently faster than my WiFi speeds.
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COVxy posted...

I think the last time I worried about running on WiFi rather than ethernet was 2009.

Idk why anyone would willingly use ethernet these days, tbh, except for intranets.

Because ethernet is factually faster and more stable. This will never change.
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Plus not every house has full wifi coverage in every room. Most times people just use the one their ISP gives them and live with it because they aren't technically minded, so if it's a large house or there are a lot of walls between the router and someone's room they're pretty much fucked without ethernet.
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Except for almost every third party game

...which you should be playing on PC anyway.

Irony posted...

COVxy posted...

I think the last time I worried about running on WiFi rather than ethernet was 2009.

Idk why anyone would willingly use ethernet these days, tbh, except for intranets.

Because ethernet is factually faster and more stable. This will never change.

Is the bus really the bottleneck here? For gaming?

For file transfer, absolutely. But for gaming? Idk, i have single digit ping on my universities wifi.

Probably has more to do with, back in the day at least, the unreliability of the tech. If people are having a hard time gaming online with the switch, my guess is that it would be more likely due to the way the servers are hosted.
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COVxy posted...

Irony posted...

COVxy posted...

I think the last time I worried about running on WiFi rather than ethernet was 2009.

Idk why anyone would willingly use ethernet these days, tbh, except for intranets.

Because ethernet is factually faster and more stable. This will never change.

Is the bus really the bottleneck here? For gaming?

For file transfer, absolutely. But for gaming? Idk, i have single digit ping on my universities wifi.

Probably has more to do with, back in the day at least, the unreliability of the tech. If people are having a hard time gaming online with the switch, my guess is that it would be more likely due to the way the servers are hosted.

For server side gaming it might not matter but games like Smash use player side for connection and wired makes a difference.
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

No voice chat or messaging

I'm pretty sure it has voice chat.
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COVxy posted...

Probably has more to do with, back in the day at least, the unreliability of the tech. If people are having a hard time gaming online with the switch, my guess is that it would be more likely due to the way the servers are hosted.

Copper wires are vastly less prone to interference than radio waves.

It's arguable that wi-fi is actually getting worse at the tech improves, because it's more crowded. Go get a wifi analyzer app, and just look at all the wireless networks around you, and note the dumbasses who stray from channels 1, 6, and 11 on 2.4GHz.

CapnMuffin posted...

For server side gaming it might not matter but games like Smash use player side for connection and wired makes a difference.

I'd complain about that then, no dedicated servers is a crapshoot for online gaming regardless.
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CapnMuffin posted...

COVxy posted...

Irony posted...

COVxy posted...

I think the last time I worried about running on WiFi rather than ethernet was 2009.

Idk why anyone would willingly use ethernet these days, tbh, except for intranets.

Because ethernet is factually faster and more stable. This will never change.

Is the bus really the bottleneck here? For gaming?

For file transfer, absolutely. But for gaming? Idk, i have single digit ping on my universities wifi.

Probably has more to do with, back in the day at least, the unreliability of the tech. If people are having a hard time gaming online with the switch, my guess is that it would be more likely due to the way the servers are hosted.

For server side gaming it might not matter but games like Smash use player side for connection and wired makes a difference.

not if you're using a decent wifi network.

the primary issue people are having with that game is poor ping. if you've got a decent wifi network (ie. not using the shit router that your ISP gives you) you can keep ping low enough that it doesn't matter.
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Switch Ethernet adapter $12.39:

https://www.amazon.com/UGREEN-Ethernet-Adapter-Nintendo-Chromebook/dp/B00MYT481C

Considering the X1 controller uses freaking AA batteries, i'd say this isn't exactly a straw that breaks the camel's back.
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DarkRoast posted...

Considering the X1 controller uses freaking AA batteries

Nothing wrong with that.
The (allegedly) irreplaceable batteries in the other controllers will turn to crap after about two years regardless, simply due to the chemistry.

Questionmarktarius posted...

DarkRoast posted...

Considering the X1 controller uses freaking AA batteries

Nothing wrong with that.
The (allegedly) irreplaceable batteries in the other controllers will turn to crap after about two years regardless, simply due to the chemistry.

Then explain why my Wii U Pro controller from 2012 goes twice as long on a charge as my X1 controller with batteries.
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DarkRoast posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

DarkRoast posted...

Considering the X1 controller uses freaking AA batteries

Nothing wrong with that.
The (allegedly) irreplaceable batteries in the other controllers will turn to crap after about two years regardless, simply due to the chemistry.

Then explain why my Wii U Pro controller from 2012 goes twice as long on a charge as my X1 controller with batteries.

You're using shitty batteries. That's the only explanation.

Wii U and even more so Switch Pro controllers have extremely long battery life, but I still have to charge my controllers about once every 2 weeks while my XBox One controller goes for months without having to change the batteries.
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Do you only use your Xbone for like 10 minutes a day?
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Tyranthraxus posted...

DarkRoast posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

DarkRoast posted...

Considering the X1 controller uses freaking AA batteries

Nothing wrong with that.
The (allegedly) irreplaceable batteries in the other controllers will turn to crap after about two years regardless, simply due to the chemistry.

Then explain why my Wii U Pro controller from 2012 goes twice as long on a charge as my X1 controller with batteries.

You're using shitty batteries. That's the only explanation.

Wii U and even more so Switch Pro controllers have extremely long battery life, but I still have to charge my controllers about once every 2 weeks while my XBox One controller goes for months without having to change the batteries.

I change my X1's batteries at least once every week or so.
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In fact TC doesn't really know what he's talking about

Because even as ass as it is Switch has VC through an smartphone app and it supports multiple games. All Wii U had was Smash 4

X1 using AAs is a good thing. You have battery options instead of being stuck with the cheapo built-in irremovable battery that lasts for 4 hours after 2 years.

Buy yourself a $15 rechargable AA set that lasts 40 hours per charge and you can switch them out on the fly instead of having to hook up and become a wired controller for a few hours.

Does the Dualshock 4 still only come with a 1000 mAh battery?

The Wii U Pro controller came with a 1300 mAh one which is absolutely fucking nutty for how barebones it is.
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JerseyProudBoy posted...

Does the Dualshock 4 still only come with a 1000 mAh battery?

The Wii U Pro controller came with a 1300 mAh one which is absolutely fucking nutty for how barebones it is.

Yeah it's 1,000 mAh. I replaced it with a 2300 (IIRC) mAh battery which was surprisingly easy to do.
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wronganswerfool posted...

In fact TC doesn't really know what he's talking about

Because even as ass as it is Switch has VC through an smartphone app and it supports multiple games. All Wii U had was Smash 4

haha totally, anything has voice chat if you use a phone. Might as well just call the people you're in the lobby with.
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