Current Events > Incels: Are women making them?

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Albel-Nox posted...

C'mon with these long ass videos.

just watch the videos man
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solosnake posted...

Albel-Nox posted...

C'mon with these long ass videos.

just watch the videos man

no thanks tbh
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Can someone give a tl;dw version of the video because it looks like one of those crappy right wing videos. If it ends with saying that woman are the reason incels exist than my guess is correct.
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solosnake posted...

I wish you guys would just watch the video instead of talking out of your asses

Ok, I watched the video. Thanks for that. I did not disagree with much, except I do think giving incels prostitutes is perhaps the best solution available. Yes, money is again being exchanged and it would probably come from taxes, which sucks, but society is already paying women to raise their father-less offspring. Incels might as well lobby to get some of that money back to them, whether it be a refund to be used for sex or an actual escort showing up at your doorstep. We can't fix the breakdown of the traditional family at this point, mainly because I don't think most people want to go back to that anyway.
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

except I do think giving incels prostitutes is perhaps the best solution available.

why? their primary problem is lack of social acceptance, not an imaginary milestone like having sex
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

solosnake posted...

I wish you guys would just watch the video instead of talking out of your asses

Ok, I watched the video. Thanks for that. I did not disagree with much, except I do think giving incels prostitutes is perhaps the best solution available. Yes, money is again being exchanged and it would probably come from taxes, which sucks, but society is already paying women to raise their father-less offspring. Incels might as well lobby to get some of that money back to them, whether it be a refund to be used for sex or an actual escort showing up at your doorstep. We can't fix the breakdown of the traditional family at this point, mainly because I don't think most people want to go back to that anyway.

Wow, finally a sensible post...
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Sorry for not being interested in watching a 12 min video made by someone w/ a pepe avatar

Nickelodeon and Disney are complicit, for sure....but the onus isn't strictly on the media machine.
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catboy0_0 posted...

why? their primary problem is lack of social acceptance, not an imaginary milestone like having sex

If by "lack of social acceptance," you mean lack of sex, then I stand by it. You can extrapolate sex to eventually include having a wife and having kids of your own, that are actually your own biologically, and these are all classic examples of having a successful, stable life. Incels don't believe there is hope for them to have any of that. At the very least, prostitutes would help alleviate the social pressures and anxieties that apply to men who have not had sex yet. I know it's not ideal, so I'm open to hearing someone suggest actual practical solutions, and not just the same old tired insults of "hah, they're losers." We already know that, so now what?
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

catboy0_0 posted...

why? their primary problem is lack of social acceptance, not an imaginary milestone like having sex

If by "lack of social acceptance," you mean lack of sex, then I stand by it. You can extrapolate sex to eventually include having a wife and having kids of your own, that are actually your own biologically, and these are all classic examples of having a successful, stable life. Incels don't believe there is hope for them to have any of that. At the very least, prostitutes would help alleviate the social pressures and anxieties that apply to men who have not had sex yet. I know it's not ideal, so I'm open to hearing someone suggest actual practical solutions, and not just the same old tired insults of "hah, they're losers." We already know that, so now what?

it might help, but it won't help the root cause of their anger and distrust of people
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incels, aka stupid losers i dunno wtf this bullshit of calling stupid losers incels came from, have always been a thing

the internet just let them gather in larger quantities
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No. Everyone has a part in it. Mostly because no one evaluates themselves realistically.

why the fuck do people think dudes not getting laid is a new thing lmao
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Women literally make people

The test tube babies are coming and they'll be stronger than farm raised.
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solosnake posted...

I wish you guys would just watch the video

when does CE ever do that?
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maybe not directly but indirectly

dude bros pick on virgins and even when women are around they don't say anything
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

solosnake posted...

I wish you guys would just watch the video instead of talking out of your asses

Ok, I watched the video. Thanks for that. I did not disagree with much, except I do think giving incels prostitutes is perhaps the best solution available. Yes, money is again being exchanged and it would probably come from taxes, which sucks, but society is already paying women to raise their father-less offspring. Incels might as well lobby to get some of that money back to them, whether it be a refund to be used for sex or an actual escort showing up at your doorstep. We can't fix the breakdown of the traditional family at this point, mainly because I don't think most people want to go back to that anyway.

oh no, the breakdown of tHe tRaDiTioNaL FaMiLy
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i feel bad for incels

mind is totally warped if they think they are just completely blocked from partners

when usually it's their own attitude and outlook that does them in

go into every situation expecting to fail and you will
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...

catboy0_0 posted...

why? their primary problem is lack of social acceptance, not an imaginary milestone like having sex

If by "lack of social acceptance," you mean lack of sex, then I stand by it. You can extrapolate sex to eventually include having a wife and having kids of your own, that are actually your own biologically, and these are all classic examples of having a successful, stable life. Incels don't believe there is hope for them to have any of that. At the very least, prostitutes would help alleviate the social pressures and anxieties that apply to men who have not had sex yet. I know it's not ideal, so I'm open to hearing someone suggest actual practical solutions, and not just the same old tired insults of "hah, they're losers." We already know that, so now what?

maybe they can make a conscious effort to unlearn archaic ideas about success and stability that never actually applied to everyone and are completely arbitrary and unnecessary in contemporary society
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Tried to watch the video, didn't get past the "Yes there are only 2 genders"

Gee I wonder why this guy ain't getting laid. Pepe avatar doesn't help.
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I blame the internet more then anything. Which it to say, most incels probably start out as relatively normal "losers" but they stumble across these forums and the people in the forums feed off each others negatively in such a way that only amplifies it. It's like when they first go there they might think "Why do I have such bad luck with women" and they are told by the other guys "It's not that you have bad luck, it's that the game is rigged and you never had a chance" and they start to think "Maybe the game was rigged? Maybe I never did have a chance?" and they just sort of go into a hate spiral at that point. Not really much different then any other group built around hating other people to be honest. I mean, obviously it's more complicated then just that, but I think that's a big part of it.

Blue_Dream87 posted...

Tried to watch the video, didn't get past the "Yes there are only 2 genders"

Gee I wonder why this guy ain't getting laid. Pepe avatar doesn't help.

lmao, why does that trigger you so much?
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Incels have nobody to blame but themselves.
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solosnake posted...

Blue_Dream87 posted...

Tried to watch the video, didn't get past the "Yes there are only 2 genders"

Gee I wonder why this guy ain't getting laid. Pepe avatar doesn't help.

lmao, why does that trigger you so much?

I'm only triggered because I wore the wrong size bra today
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Reeally?
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In the sense that an incel has a mother yes.
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creativerealms posted...

In the sense that an incel has a mother yes.

Came in to say that.

The only thing making an incel is their shitass personalities and weird entitlement issues.
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Well, yes. Only recently have women been able to choose who they fuck. Before now religion and survival ensured that women were dependent and subdued. Now everyone's shocked women choose the attractive mates.
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rikasa posted...

Well, yes. Only recently have women been able to choose who they fuck. Before now religion and survival ensured that women were dependent and subdued. Now everyone's shocked women choose the attractive mates.

your last sentence isn't even necessarily true. there are a ton of ugly/average-looking guys with women much better looking than them
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averagejoel posted...

rikasa posted...

Well, yes. Only recently have women been able to choose who they fuck. Before now religion and survival ensured that women were dependent and subdued. Now everyone's shocked women choose the attractive mates.

your last sentence isn't even necessarily true. there are a ton of ugly/average-looking guys with women much better looking than them

true, but they almost certainly have giant penises
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averagejoel posted...

your last sentence isn't even necessarily true. there are a ton of ugly/average-looking guys with women much better looking than them

They're attractive in ways beyond appearance then. Can't say the same for incels.
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mindset is the only thing separating virgins from permavirgins
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There were incels throughout history. They're more visible now because of the internet.

I wouldn't completely put the blame on incels being incels, but they are to blame if they are aware of the their problems and refuse to change.

Sometimes incels are raised wrong by the parents. Strict parenting, lack of social interactions, video games and other cultural influences can affect young kids growing up. Other times, it's the liberal media brainwashing them into a bunch of emotional weaklings.

If a man in his late 20's is an incel and he doesn't do anything to improve himself, he has only himself to blame at the point.
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solosnake posted...

averagejoel posted...

rikasa posted...

Well, yes. Only recently have women been able to choose who they fuck. Before now religion and survival ensured that women were dependent and subdued. Now everyone's shocked women choose the attractive mates.

your last sentence isn't even necessarily true. there are a ton of ugly/average-looking guys with women much better looking than them

true, but they almost certainly have giant penises

I don't really buy that. Giant penises are nice and all but you generally have to get to the point where the woman wants your penis out before that is going to do you any good. It's a lot like having good abs. It's a plus but it's not going to help if no woman wants you to take your clothes off. An ugly guy with a big dick needs more then just the big dick to get women. Unless he's in porn or something I guess.

Feminism was a mistake.

LinkAndEpona posted...

Feminism was a mistake.

You were a mistake
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JerseyProudBoy posted...

LinkAndEpona posted...

Feminism was a mistake.

You were a mistake

You're not wrong
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Ambience posted...

JerseyProudBoy posted...

LinkAndEpona posted...

Feminism was a mistake.

You're not wrong

Incels are created via self loathing and attempts to escape that loathing via creating mystical rules and frameworks and convenient scapegoats
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Goats posted...

Technically they do have a pretty big part in how incels get made. Men help too, don't get me wrong slothica.

Slothica isnt a Pokmon.
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Goats posted...

Technically they do have a pretty big part in how incels get made. Men help too, don't get me wrong slothica.

People actually think this?
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I consider myself an Incel, but I'm just doing my own thing and just gave up on having sex. Not worth the hassle if I don't have any fortune when socializing with women (I don't expect to get anything when we start talking of course) but I think it's just better to remain single and not care for either sex or relationships. Can't have my cake and eat it too I guess.
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rikasa posted...

Well, yes. Only recently have women been able to choose who they fuck. Before now religion and survival ensured that women were dependent and subdued. Now everyone's shocked women choose the attractive mates.

lmao
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ultimate reaver posted...

Incels are created via self loathing and attempts to escape that loathing via creating mystical rules and frameworks and convenient scapegoats

wtf? no dude, its when max keibler makes his big move and pulls it off and gets the girl but when you do it you end up looking like a Homer Simpson and wonder why people dont like you so you double down on what the hollywood programming has installed into you going full out bazinga becoming the self fufuiling prophacy: INCEL
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No, next question.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Genocet_10-325 posted...

No, idiot men make themselves incels because they would rather just wallow in misery blaming everyone else for their problems instead of changing and improving themselves

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I think incels are shaped by the environment they grow up in. They're bullied, their parents have to tell them how important they are and how nice they are, and then they watch a bunch of movies and shit about nice guys getting the ideal girlfriend by virtue of their kind nature.

But they coast along on that "niceness" cushion and expect to be given that fantasy of an ideal woman without actually broadening their horizons or filling out their personality - they don't socialise or learn how to behave like a person, because they never got the proper experience during their formulative years. And when it becomes clear that none of the hot chicks they want to bang would even give them the time of day, they get indignant and blame the world for stomping on their precious, beloved, pure feelings.

And hey, posting online is a solitary hobby that offers some degree of socialisation - and there are more people who went through the same thing! Let's bond over some shared experiences! Congrats, you've got an incel - they've locked themselves into a smug circle jerk about how society is persecuting them, and they want to feel like they're taking back their "lost" destiny. It's a coping mechanism that strips empathy for certain people, gives them an identity to rally behind and shields them from any sort of self-reflection or betterment - because there's nothing wrong with them, it's the rest of the world who is wrong.

But no, the incels are right - it's these loose women who refuse to settle down and engage in some fuckin 50's household fetish with a guy who has a personality like a cardboard cut-out. It's fully autonomous people making a conscious, free choice to seek a partner who's appealing to their tastes that are ruining society, we should listen to these brave warriors who think that society should be controlled so that everyone gets a mate, no exceptions, no escape.
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