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Akagami_Shanks
12/22/18 7:08:19 PM
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Wasn't he literally born in the middle east? How many middle eastern people are pasty white?
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb
12/22/18 7:10:44 PM
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Dude lost a shit ton of blood, then came back as a friendly zombie or something. Stands to reason he'd look pretty pale.
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Akagami_Shanks
12/22/18 7:11:38 PM
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Best part is his appearance is never described in the bible, but racism led people to think he HAS to be white
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ThyCorndog
12/22/18 7:13:34 PM
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Thaddeus_J_Pibb posted...
Dude lost a shit ton of blood, then came back as a zombie or something. Stands to reason he'd look pretty pale.

this makes sense
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 7:14:58 PM
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I remember hearing according to the geneolgy he's more white toned than brown.
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bossjony
12/22/18 7:17:35 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
I remember hearing according to the geneolgy he's more white toned than brown.

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Akagami_Shanks
12/22/18 7:18:27 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
I remember hearing according to the geneolgy he's more white toned than brown.

they did a study on it, and didn't Judas have to point out Jesus to the people arresting him? If he was so different then he wouldn't have been pointed out as anyone could have identified him
"Yeah bro he's the white dude who looks nothing like the rest of us", and he didn't have long hair because it was considered shameful and somehow who knew him personally said that, which he wouldn't have written if Jesus had long hair.

IMO theres plenty of evidences to suggest that he isn't the white dude with long hair and blue eyes people think he is but as an agnostic it doesn't really bother me much. I acknowledge he exists but the religion stuff i don't vibe with
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SH_expert44
12/22/18 7:18:43 PM
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He is half Heavenese. You always hear God depicted as a white light so it stands to reason he would at the very least be light skinned.
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RiderofHogs
12/22/18 7:20:10 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
and he didn't have long hair because it was considered shameful and somehow who knew him personally said that, which he wouldn't have written if Jesus had long hair.

Pretty sure washing a hookers feet was shameful too but he still did it.
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 7:20:34 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
they did a study on it, and didn't Judas have to point out Jesus to the people arresting him? If he was so different then he wouldn't have been pointed out as anyone could have identified him
"Yeah bro he's the white dude who looks nothing like the rest of us", and he didn't have long hair because it was considered shameful and somehow who knew him personally said that, which he wouldn't have written if Jesus had long hair.

IMO theres plenty of evidences to suggest that he isn't the white dude with long hair and blue eyes people think he is but as an agnostic it doesn't really bother me much. I acknowledge he exists but the religion stuff i don't vibe with

but isn't he of israeli decent? I mean most people that are called Jewish seem to be light toned
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Smashingpmkns
12/22/18 7:21:06 PM
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How could he be white if he didnt exist
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hockeybub89
12/22/18 7:21:40 PM
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Because Middle East bad and alien and non-Christian.

But let's derive our religion from that area anyway.
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 7:22:44 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
How could he be white if he didnt exist

there is a consensus among historians that he existed. it's more of a contention if you believe he was the son of God tbh
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CloudCollection
12/22/18 7:23:38 PM
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Why does skin color matter?
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MARKINGRAM22
12/22/18 7:24:04 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
they did a study on it, and didn't Judas have to point out Jesus to the people arresting him? If he was so different then he wouldn't have been pointed out as anyone could have identified him
"Yeah bro he's the white dude who looks nothing like the rest of us", and he didn't have long hair because it was considered shameful and somehow who knew him personally said that, which he wouldn't have written if Jesus had long hair.

IMO theres plenty of evidences to suggest that he isn't the white dude with long hair and blue eyes people think he is but as an agnostic it doesn't really bother me much. I acknowledge he exists but the religion stuff i don't vibe with

but isn't he of israeli decent? I mean most people that are called Jewish seem to be light toned


He is probably somewhere around Jeff Goldblum complected...
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 7:24:38 PM
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CloudCollection posted...
Why does skin color matter?

because if in reality he's dark toned, that makes Christianity pathetic for making the believers think he was the same tone as them
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MARKINGRAM22
12/22/18 7:26:13 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
Because Middle East bad and alien and non-Christian.

But let's derive our religion from that area anyway.


Ummm...actually it was more like people just use that image cause it was by one of the greatest and most legendary artists of all time, and there were no other actual images of him. Just ham fist everything into racist white people though ignoring that image is also used in the middle east.
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RiderofHogs
12/22/18 7:27:06 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
He is probably somewhere around Jeff Goldblum complected...

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Smashingpmkns
12/22/18 7:32:53 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
How could he be white if he didnt exist

there is a consensus among historians that he existed. it's more of a contention if you believe he was the son of God tbh


There's plenty of written work out there explaining why that general consensus exists and why its flawed. G.A. Wells is probably the most prevalent mythicist.
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Albel-Nox
12/22/18 7:33:20 PM
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Smashingpmkns
12/22/18 7:38:04 PM
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Jesus' 23 and Me came back 76% white, 12% Hispanic, 10% Asian and 2% African.
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Cheater87
12/22/18 7:38:46 PM
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Most Christians are white, that is my guess.
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hockeybub89
12/22/18 7:41:11 PM
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MARKINGRAM22 posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
Because Middle East bad and alien and non-Christian.

But let's derive our religion from that area anyway.


Ummm...actually it was more like people just use that image cause it was by one of the greatest and most legendary artists of all time, and there were no other actual images of him. Just ham fist everything into racist white people though ignoring that image is also used in the middle east.

Which artist are you talking about? Because there aren't any Christian depictions of Jesus as dark-skinned. It's pretty obvious that they made him white to make him relatable to the people who practiced the religion. It isn't odd to design a character to connect with people. Like it or not, skin color has been considered a barrier to connecting with a character. Even in modern times, some people still freak out about how they can't relate to someone who doesn't look like them.

Humanity wasn't far removed from shit like Greek mythology in the early centuries AD, so of course the poor common man would take the word of the religious elite on what their deity looked like in human form. Education wasn't exactly widespread.
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Akagami_Shanks
12/22/18 7:42:48 PM
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literally whitewashed Jesus

if he was alive he'd probably be like "Who the heck is that?"
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Kastrada
12/22/18 7:43:09 PM
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mustachedmystic
12/22/18 7:44:54 PM
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This topic is so CE.
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Zikten
12/22/18 7:53:11 PM
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in terms of the masses, who didn't control the look, it was easy for them to believe the lie cause they didn't have any other images of him. and also, keep in mind that centuries ago, people might go years or their whole life not seeing a foreigner. and maybe they just ignorantly think the whole world looks like them. or they just didn't think about it. I think modern people think more about things cause we have more free time. ancient people would just accept things at face value and move on
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HiddenLurker
12/22/18 7:57:13 PM
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Maybe it is potato jesus?
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Bad_Mojo
12/22/18 8:00:18 PM
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I mean, it is an interesting question

I'm sure someone has gone through and dated a lot of paintings of Jesus. When did he become white or was he always painted as white?
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EbonTitanium
12/22/18 8:04:40 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
How could he be white if he didnt exist

there is a consensus among historians that he existed. it's more of a contention if you believe he was the son of God tbh

Jesus never called himself the actual son of God.
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Akagami_Shanks
12/22/18 8:06:32 PM
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EbonTitanium posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
How could he be white if he didnt exist

there is a consensus among historians that he existed. it's more of a contention if you believe he was the son of God tbh

Jesus never called himself the actual son of God.

Jesus didn't do a lot of things people think he did. Idk if it's funny or sad. He has to be the most misunderstood man in history
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glitteringfairy
12/22/18 8:07:36 PM
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Akagami_Shanks posted...
literally whitewashed Jesus

if he was alive he'd probably be like "Who the heck is that?"

If Jesus was alive the world would be ending. His complexion would be of minor concern compared to the legions of Hell waging war on Earth
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RaptorLC
12/22/18 8:10:23 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
literally whitewashed Jesus

if he was alive he'd probably be like "Who the heck is that?"

If Jesus was alive the world would be ending. His complexion would be of minor concern compared to the legions of Hell waging war on Earth


Indeed. According to Islamic lore, Jesus will return to help them conquer the infidels or something like that.

Religious apocalypse scenarios do tend to be pretty silly.
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RoboLaserGandhi
12/22/18 8:10:39 PM
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Why do you use the word "pasty" like that?

He's portrayed as a pretty average white tone. Unless you call all white people pasty.
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Squall344
12/22/18 8:11:04 PM
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I would say it's because most North Americans and Europeans are white, their depictions of Jesus would reflect themselves as being in the image of their Creator. There are plenty of images of Jesus being other than white.

https://trendspost.com/depictions-of-jesus-around-the-world/

https://www.beliefnet.com/columnists/buzz/20-faces-of-jesus-from-around-the-world/

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhtOGkUqVTU" data-time="

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Kastrada
12/22/18 8:11:52 PM
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Bad_Mojo posted...
I mean, it is an interesting question

I'm sure someone has gone through and dated a lot of paintings of Jesus. When did he become white or was he always painted as white?


If I am remembering correctly, it was during the Renaissance.
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glitteringfairy
12/22/18 8:15:03 PM
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RaptorLC posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
literally whitewashed Jesus

if he was alive he'd probably be like "Who the heck is that?"

If Jesus was alive the world would be ending. His complexion would be of minor concern compared to the legions of Hell waging war on Earth


Indeed. According to Islamic lore, Jesus will return to help them conquer the infidels or something like that.

Religious apocalypse scenarios do tend to be pretty silly.

Interesting. I did not know that. I think Islam does acknowledge Jesus as a real person and a bringer of Holy knowledge, but he's not the son of God, much like Judaism. I didn't know Jesus has his own place in Islamic apocalypse prophecy
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Akagami_Shanks
12/22/18 8:16:14 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Why do you use the word "pasty" like that?

He's portrayed as a pretty average white tone. Unless you call all white people pasty.

google pasty white and then google jesus
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EbonTitanium
12/22/18 8:18:31 PM
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People still don't under the Book of Revelation.
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Kastrada
12/22/18 8:18:32 PM
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glitteringfairy posted...
RaptorLC posted...
glitteringfairy posted...
Akagami_Shanks posted...
literally whitewashed Jesus

if he was alive he'd probably be like "Who the heck is that?"

If Jesus was alive the world would be ending. His complexion would be of minor concern compared to the legions of Hell waging war on Earth


Indeed. According to Islamic lore, Jesus will return to help them conquer the infidels or something like that.

Religious apocalypse scenarios do tend to be pretty silly.

Interesting. I did not know that. I think Islam does acknowledge Jesus as a real person and a bringer of Holy knowledge, but he's not the son of God, much like Judaism. I didn't know Jesus has his own place in Islamic apocalypse prophecy


Jesus is like the number 2 prophet in Islam behind Mohammed.
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Ryetoast
12/22/18 8:18:53 PM
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Kastrada posted...
Bad_Mojo posted...
I mean, it is an interesting question

I'm sure someone has gone through and dated a lot of paintings of Jesus. When did he become white or was he always painted as white?


If I am remembering correctly, it was during the Renaissance.


Doesnt some of the paleness have to do with worn paint on the Frescas?
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 8:33:48 PM
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EbonTitanium posted...
catboy0_0 posted...
Smashingpmkns posted...
How could he be white if he didnt exist

there is a consensus among historians that he existed. it's more of a contention if you believe he was the son of God tbh

Jesus never called himself the actual son of God.

no, but he was called that by the apostles
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Lorenzo_2003
12/22/18 8:39:36 PM
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catboy0_0 posted...
CloudCollection posted...
Why does skin color matter?

because if in reality he's dark toned, that makes Christianity pathetic for making the believers think he was the same tone as them


Lol, what?

Christianity spread through Europe and eventually to places like the US, so nobody should be surprised that artists and preachers would have appropriated him to represent their own interests. We dont even know if he truly existed and there arent any definitive descriptions anyway, so you can picture him however you want.
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catboy0_0
12/22/18 8:40:42 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
so nobody should be surprised that artists and preachers would have appropriated him to represent their own interests.

you're wrong on that count. most people that grow up in Christianity literally think he's some white dude
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RoboLaserGandhi
12/22/18 9:02:02 PM
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Religion isn't about historical accuracy if anyone ever wondered that. Jesus is portrayed with a relatable image to the believer.

The "white guy with a beard and long straight/wavy hair" thing came from a Renaissance portait of an Italian royal.
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kuwab0
12/22/18 9:09:42 PM
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andel
12/22/18 9:10:26 PM
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most jewish people are 'white' looking so it would make sense for jesus to be white
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ChainedRedone
12/22/18 9:16:33 PM
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He's a Jew from Galilee. They tend to be white. Such ignorance in the OP.
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