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Kineth 12/21/18 7:17:23 AM #101:	Agnostic420 posted... You should actively be trying to find work or you shouldnt be on them. What about people with disabilities that prevent them from working? --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914489853] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Agnostic420 posted...</cite> <quote>You should actively be trying to find work or you shouldnt be on them.</quote> What about people with disabilities that prevent them from working?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RchHomieQuanChi 12/21/18 7:20:46 AM #102:	Philoktetes posted... nice imo you should have to have a job to get unemployment too Quit playing, this sounds like something Trump would actually do. --- I have nothing else to say <cite>RchHomieQuanChi posted [p:914489906] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Philoktetes posted...</cite> <quote>nice imo you should have to have a job to get unemployment too</quote> Quit playing, this sounds like something Trump would actually do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
EverDownward 12/21/18 7:21:24 AM #103:	Sure Trump baby, I'll get right on that once I finish these rounds of radiation/chemo treatment that may or may not improve my chances of living long enough through stage iv colon cancer so that I get enough strength back that I may immediately go find work. Yep. That's precisely the first thing I'll do. --- "And you can't tell me what my spirit tells me isn't true, can you?" <cite>EverDownward posted [p:914489921] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>Sure Trump baby, I'll get right on that once I finish these rounds of radiation/chemo treatment that may or may not improve my chances of living long enough through stage iv colon cancer so that I get enough strength back that I may immediately go find work. Yep. That's precisely the first thing I'll do.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ArchiePeck 12/21/18 7:28:10 AM #104:	Kineth posted... Agnostic420 posted... You should actively be trying to find work or you shouldnt be on them. What about people with disabilities that prevent them from working? What sort of disabilities are we talking? Unless someone is literally a quadriplegic in a wheelchair they should be able to obtain some sort of work. It might be horrible and unpleasant unskilled work like a call centre, or packing mail order envelopes over and over but it's still work. I agree with the general principle, however, that an advanced and civilised society should be able to provide for it's disadvantaged. It's a drop in the ocean compared to things like military spending or building a fucking border wall LOL I'm fortunate enough to have a good career (accounting), but if some random luck thing happened like, God forbid, my wife got a brain tumor and needed long term care or something then our savings and insurance would only go so far before we'd probably start to experience hardships. <cite>ArchiePeck posted [p:914490068] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Agnostic420 posted...</cite> <quote>You should actively be trying to find work or you shouldnt be on them.</quote> What about people with disabilities that prevent them from working?</quote> What sort of disabilities are we talking? Unless someone is literally a quadriplegic in a wheelchair they should be able to obtain some sort of work. It might be horrible and unpleasant unskilled work like a call centre, or packing mail order envelopes over and over but it's still work. I agree with the general principle, however, that an advanced and civilised society should be able to provide for it's disadvantaged. It's a drop in the ocean compared to things like military spending or building a fucking border wall LOL I'm fortunate enough to have a good career (accounting), but if some random luck thing happened like, God forbid, my wife got a brain tumor and needed long term care or something then our savings and insurance would only go so far before we'd probably start to experience hardships.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kombucha 12/21/18 7:49:48 AM #105:	ThugLife247 posted... Isnt this literal slavery When someone cant get a job they can still volunteer for the same amount of time to remain eligible so yes it can be. --- http://www.last.fm/user/walkingishonest <cite>Kombucha posted [p:914490519] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThugLife247 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt this literal slavery</quote> When someone cant get a job they can still volunteer for the same amount of time to remain eligible so yes it can be.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
knutjob 12/21/18 7:54:34 AM #106:	If you have a job and still can't afford food, your country is broken. <cite>knutjob posted [p:914490637] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>If you have a job and still can't afford food, your country is broken.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 12/21/18 7:57:16 AM #107:	knutjob posted... If you have a job and still can't afford food, your country is broken. This tbqh --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:914490710] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>If you have a job and still can't afford food, your country is broken.</quote> This tbqh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/21/18 8:01:29 AM #108:	ArchiePeck posted... What sort of disabilities are we talking? Unless someone is literally a quadriplegic in a wheelchair they should be able to obtain some sort of work. It might be horrible and unpleasant unskilled work like a call centre, or packing mail order envelopes over and over but it's still work. I said what type of disabilities. I know there aren't too many that would completely make you unable to work, but plenty of people also live in parts of the country where there aren't exactly a plethora of jobs nearby and there are plenty of people with bills that pile up during hard times. With the amount of food that we literally throw away in this country, it makes no sense to... I agree with the general principle, however, that an advanced and civilised society should be able to provide for it's disadvantaged. It's a drop in the ocean compared to things like military spending or building a fucking border wall LOL I'm fortunate enough to have a good career (accounting), but if some random luck thing happened like, God forbid, my wife got a brain tumor and needed long term care or something then our savings and insurance would only go so far before we'd probably start to experience hardships. .. nm, you get it, my bad on starting to admonish you. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914490807] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>ArchiePeck posted...</cite> <quote>What sort of disabilities are we talking? Unless someone is literally a quadriplegic in a wheelchair they should be able to obtain some sort of work. It might be horrible and unpleasant unskilled work like a call centre, or packing mail order envelopes over and over but it's still work.</quote> I said what type of disabilities. I know there aren't too many that would completely make you unable to work, but plenty of people also live in parts of the country where there aren't exactly a plethora of jobs nearby and there are plenty of people with bills that pile up during hard times. With the amount of food that we literally throw away in this country, it makes no sense to... <quote>I agree with the general principle, however, that an advanced and civilised society should be able to provide for it's disadvantaged. It's a drop in the ocean compared to things like military spending or building a fucking border wall LOL I'm fortunate enough to have a good career (accounting), but if some random luck thing happened like, God forbid, my wife got a brain tumor and needed long term care or something then our savings and insurance would only go so far before we'd probably start to experience hardships.</quote> .. nm, you get it, my bad on starting to admonish you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gadgaurd 12/21/18 8:05:33 AM #109:	glitteringfairy posted... Hairistotle posted... that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly If they are doing badly and have a job and need help then I don't see the problem. Again, why is it a bad thing to require able bodied people that are required to work to get government assistance? Not everyone CAN get a job. Pretty simple. This bill basically tells those people "too bad, so sad". --- https://card.psnprofiles.com/1/gadgaurd.png https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChRPh9M0sh0qDJU464qoImg <cite>gadgaurd posted [p:914490928] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly</quote> If they are doing badly and have a job and need help then I don't see the problem. Again, why is it a bad thing to require able bodied people that are required to work to get government assistance?</quote> Not everyone CAN get a job. Pretty simple. This bill basically tells those people "too bad, so sad".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Joeydollaz 12/21/18 8:05:50 AM #110:	uh....the point is to use it in between looking for a job why even give it? --- YEAR OF 4 <cite>Joeydollaz posted [p:914490935] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>uh....the point is to use it in between looking for a job why even give it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Southernfatman 12/21/18 8:14:35 AM #111:	This is disgusting, but in a way I hope they keep kicking people while they're down. Maybe more people will realize Republicans and the rich are fucking every other American over and they'll stop voting Republican and/or start fighting back against the real "class warfare". --- https://imgur.com/hslUvRN When I sin I sin real good. <cite>Southernfatman posted [p:914491158] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>This is disgusting, but in a way I hope they keep kicking people while they're down. Maybe more people will realize Republicans and the rich are fucking every other American over and they'll stop voting Republican and/or start fighting back against the real "class warfare".</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/21/18 8:17:20 AM #112:	Southernfatman posted... This is disgusting, but in a way I hope they keep kicking people while they're down. Maybe more people will realize Republicans and the rich are fucking every other American over and they'll stop voting Republican and/or start fighting back against the real "class warfare". People who lap up this type of shit will find someone else to blame and get even more riled up and extreme. There's been enough examples and info shown to them and yet.. here we are. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914491235] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote>This is disgusting, but in a way I hope they keep kicking people while they're down. Maybe more people will realize Republicans and the rich are fucking every other American over and they'll stop voting Republican and/or start fighting back against the real "class warfare".</quote> People who lap up this type of shit will find someone else to blame and get even more riled up and extreme. There's been enough examples and info shown to them and yet.. here we are.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/21/18 8:18:08 AM #113:	Southernfatman posted... Maybe more people will realize Republicans and the rich are f*ing every other American over and they'll stop voting Republican and/or start fighting back against the real "class warfare". republicans have already redrawn districts so it doesn't matter if they do--they'll still retain control dems' margin of victory in the last house election was vastly, vastly wider than their seat gains, and the senate has shifted as much due to people moving to urban centers as anything else. half the seats of the senate are decided by about a quarter of americans--typically the most conservative ones. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:914491256] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Southernfatman posted...</cite> <quote> Maybe more people will realize Republicans and the rich are f*ing every other American over and they'll stop voting Republican and/or start fighting back against the real "class warfare". </quote> republicans have already redrawn districts so it doesn't matter if they do--they'll still retain control dems' margin of victory in the last house election was vastly, vastly wider than their seat gains, and the senate has shifted as much due to people moving to urban centers as anything else. half the seats of the senate are decided by about a quarter of americans--typically the most conservative ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zerocide 12/21/18 8:22:15 AM #114:	ThugLife247 posted... Isnt this literal slavery The word slave is losing its meaning nowadays. --- "Grand Upper!" - Axel Stone http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618079256 <cite>Zerocide posted [p:914491351] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThugLife247 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt this literal slavery</quote> The word slave is losing its meaning nowadays.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
NeoShadowhen 12/21/18 8:23:29 AM #115:	Kineth posted... Agnostic420 posted... You should actively be trying to find work or you shouldnt be on them. What about people with disabilities that prevent them from working? gadgaurd posted... glitteringfairy posted... Hairistotle posted... that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly If they are doing badly and have a job and need help then I don't see the problem. Again, why is it a bad thing to require able bodied people that are required to work to get government assistance? Not everyone CAN get a job. Pretty simple. This bill basically tells those people "too bad, so sad". There are all kinds of circumstances that waive the work requirement. I went over the list 50 posts ago. Sometimes I wonder if this entire board has me on ignore. <cite>NeoShadowhen posted [p:914491384] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Agnostic420 posted...</cite> <quote>You should actively be trying to find work or you shouldnt be on them.</quote> What about people with disabilities that prevent them from working?</quote> <cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly</quote> If they are doing badly and have a job and need help then I don't see the problem. Again, why is it a bad thing to require able bodied people that are required to work to get government assistance?</quote> Not everyone CAN get a job. Pretty simple. This bill basically tells those people "too bad, so sad".</quote> There are all kinds of circumstances that waive the work requirement. I went over the list 50 posts ago. Sometimes I wonder if this entire board has me on ignore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/21/18 8:27:59 AM #117:	NeoShadowhen posted... Kineth posted... Agnostic420 posted... You should actively be trying to find work or you shouldnt be on them. What about people with disabilities that prevent them from working? gadgaurd posted... glitteringfairy posted... Hairistotle posted... that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly If they are doing badly and have a job and need help then I don't see the problem. Again, why is it a bad thing to require able bodied people that are required to work to get government assistance? Not everyone CAN get a job. Pretty simple. This bill basically tells those people "too bad, so sad". There are all kinds of circumstances that waive the work requirement. I went over the list 50 posts ago. Sometimes I wonder if this entire board has me on ignore. Fair enough. That said, I don't exactly trust our legislators to properly write/implement such things, nor do I trust them to not attempt to remove some of those circumstances at a future date. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914491497] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>NeoShadowhen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Agnostic420 posted...</cite> <quote>You should actively be trying to find work or you shouldnt be on them.</quote> What about people with disabilities that prevent them from working?</quote> <cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly</quote> If they are doing badly and have a job and need help then I don't see the problem. Again, why is it a bad thing to require able bodied people that are required to work to get government assistance?</quote> Not everyone CAN get a job. Pretty simple. This bill basically tells those people "too bad, so sad".</quote> There are all kinds of circumstances that waive the work requirement. I went over the list 50 posts ago. Sometimes I wonder if this entire board has me on ignore.</quote> Fair enough. That said, I don't exactly trust our legislators to properly write/implement such things, nor do I trust them to not attempt to remove some of those circumstances at a future date.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/21/18 8:31:32 AM #118:	really the biggest thing about this is almost no SNAP benefits go to families without children if you review the actual funding provision provided, children are the main driver in receiving money so this is mostly a set of rules that apply to a tiny fraction of the program's budget and those rules will probably cost more than they save. as tends to be the case for most 'make sure welfare is being used appropriately!!!111one' legislation the job training req is probably the dumbest part of it since that directly impacts actual recipients and just creates paperwork @Balrog0 why are you not here --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:914491579] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>really the biggest thing about this is almost no SNAP benefits go to families without children if you review the actual funding provision provided, children are the main driver in receiving money so this is mostly a set of rules that apply to a tiny fraction of the program's budget and those rules will probably cost more than they save. as tends to be the case for most 'make sure welfare is being used appropriately!!!111one' legislation the job training req is probably the dumbest part of it since that directly impacts actual recipients and just creates paperwork @Balrog0 why are you not here</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zodd3224 12/21/18 8:34:28 AM #119:	It was nice seeing glitteringfairy BTFO from all sides --- https://imgur.com/qAas5O2 <cite>Zodd3224 posted [p:914491669] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>It was nice seeing glitteringfairy BTFO from all sides</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/21/18 8:34:44 AM #120:	Zodd3224 posted... It was nice seeing glitteringfairy BTFO from all sides americans still know what to do with nazis --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:914491676] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zodd3224 posted...</cite> <quote>It was nice seeing glitteringfairy BTFO from all sides</quote> americans still know what to do with nazis</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/21/18 8:34:59 AM #121:	Darkman124 posted... really the biggest thing about this is almost no SNAP benefits go to families without children if you review the actual funding provision provided, children are the main driver in receiving money so this is mostly a set of rules that apply to a tiny fraction of the program's budget and those rules will probably cost more than they save. as tends to be the case for most 'make sure welfare is being used appropriately!!!111one' legislation the job training req is probably the dumbest part of it since that directly impacts actual recipients and just creates paperwork @ Balrog0 why are you not here This sounds like a pretty good assessment of the whole thing. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914491688] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>really the biggest thing about this is almost no SNAP benefits go to families without children if you review the actual funding provision provided, children are the main driver in receiving money so this is mostly a set of rules that apply to a tiny fraction of the program's budget and those rules will probably cost more than they save. as tends to be the case for most 'make sure welfare is being used appropriately!!!111one' legislation the job training req is probably the dumbest part of it since that directly impacts actual recipients and just creates paperwork @ Balrog0 why are you not here</quote> This sounds like a pretty good assessment of the whole thing.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iClockwork 12/21/18 8:37:22 AM #122:	gadgaurd posted... Not everyone CAN get a job. Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society. <cite>iClockwork posted [p:914491764] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone CAN get a job.</quote> Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
teepan95 12/21/18 8:51:16 AM #123:	knutjob posted... If you have a job and still can't afford food, your country is broken. --- I use Gameraven and you should too. http://error1355.com/ce/teepan95.html <cite>teepan95 posted [p:914492161] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>knutjob posted...</cite> <quote>If you have a job and still can't afford food, your country is broken.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 12/21/18 8:53:38 AM #124:	iClockwork posted... gadgaurd posted... Not everyone CAN get a job. Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society. Hey, I want a job. I left my old job because of the drive and family and it was making me crazy but that doesnt mean I dont want to work. ~~I just insist on applying for things Im underqualified for.~~ --- Washable toilet paper. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:914492231] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone CAN get a job.</quote> Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society.</quote> Hey, I want a job. I left my old job because of the drive and family and it was making me crazy but that doesnt mean I dont want to work. I just insist on applying for things Im underqualified for.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/21/18 8:56:27 AM #125:	Anyone who supports this has likely never been in a circumstance where food stamps were necessary. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914492332] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>Anyone who supports this has likely never been in a circumstance where food stamps were necessary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 12/21/18 8:57:12 AM #126:	Lazy fucks are SHOOK Good, get off your lazy asses and do work --- Oda break tracker 2018- 9 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 12-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 3-11 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:914492366] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>Lazy fucks are SHOOK Good, get off your lazy asses and do work</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 12/21/18 8:59:44 AM #127:	ThugLife247 posted... Isnt this literal slavery How? Your job pays you and than you get food stamps on top of that. --- https://imgur.com/cfZmEFd Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:914492438] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThugLife247 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt this literal slavery</quote> How? Your job pays you and than you get food stamps on top of that.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Albel-Nox 12/21/18 9:01:07 AM #128:	iClockwork posted... gadgaurd posted... Not everyone CAN get a job. Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society. <cite>Albel-Nox posted [p:914492479] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone CAN get a job.</quote> Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
COVxy 12/21/18 9:02:39 AM #129:	pikachupwnage posted... ThugLife247 posted... Isnt this literal slavery How? Your job pays you and than you get food stamps on top of that. Fun fact: when I turned 18 I was forced into full time volunteer work to maintain me and my Mom's foodstamps. I was quite literally an indentured servant for a year before I could find a paying job. --- =E[(x-E[x])(y-E[y])] <cite>COVxy posted [p:914492526] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>pikachupwnage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ThugLife247 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt this literal slavery</quote> How? Your job pays you and than you get food stamps on top of that.</quote> Fun fact: when I turned 18 I was forced into full time volunteer work to maintain me and my Mom's foodstamps. I was quite literally an indentured servant for a year before I could find a paying job.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
pikachupwnage 12/21/18 9:03:59 AM #130:	Albel-Nox posted... iClockwork posted... gadgaurd posted... Not everyone CAN get a job. Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society. I dont think someone in intensive cancer treatment for advanced lung cancer can. Or various other cancers. They can barely breathe, their immune system is probably compromised, they have no energy and either are in terrible pain or are HIGH AF on strong painkillers. And I was prettt much down for the count just from oxycodone. Random dizzy spells, lethargy and just a general apathy whenever I was on that shit. Just one example. --- https://imgur.com/cfZmEFd Even In sigs FOE! http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif <cite>pikachupwnage posted [p:914492562] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Albel-Nox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone CAN get a job.</quote> Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society.</quote></quote> I dont think someone in intensive cancer treatment for advanced lung cancer can. Or various other cancers. They can barely breathe, their immune system is probably compromised, they have no energy and either are in terrible pain or are HIGH AF on strong painkillers. And I was prettt much down for the count just from oxycodone. Random dizzy spells, lethargy and just a general apathy whenever I was on that shit. Just one example.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 12/21/18 9:05:22 AM #131:	pikachupwnage posted... Albel-Nox posted... iClockwork posted... gadgaurd posted... Not everyone CAN get a job. Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society. I dont think someone in intensive cancer treatment for advanced lung cancer can. They can barely breathe, their immune system is probably compromised, they have no energy and either are in terrible pain or are HIGH AF on strong painkillers. Then they would get disability and not have to worry. --- Oda break tracker 2018- 9 (3) \| THE Ohio State: 12-1 \| Oakland Raiders: 3-11 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:914492610] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>pikachupwnage posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Albel-Nox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone CAN get a job.</quote> Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society.</quote></quote> I dont think someone in intensive cancer treatment for advanced lung cancer can. They can barely breathe, their immune system is probably compromised, they have no energy and either are in terrible pain or are HIGH AF on strong painkillers.</quote> Then they would get disability and not have to worry.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zerocide 12/21/18 9:08:10 AM #132:	Albel-Nox posted... iClockwork posted... gadgaurd posted... Not everyone CAN get a job. Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society. So much this but folks wanna pretend that lazyass people who beg for handouts don't exist. --- "Grand Upper!" - Axel Stone http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=618079256 <cite>Zerocide posted [p:914492712] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Albel-Nox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone CAN get a job.</quote> Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society.</quote></quote> So much this but folks wanna pretend that lazyass people who beg for handouts don't exist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/21/18 9:10:11 AM #133:	Darkman124 posted... really the biggest thing about this is almost no SNAP benefits go to families without children if you review the actual funding provision provided, children are the main driver in receiving money so this is mostly a set of rules that apply to a tiny fraction of the program's budget and those rules will probably cost more than they save. as tends to be the case for most 'make sure welfare is being used appropriately!!!111one' legislation the job training req is probably the dumbest part of it since that directly impacts actual recipients and just creates paperwork @Balrog0 why are you not here My understanding of what Trump did is that it was pretty narrow. I thought he had just changed the cutoff for what areas count as 'high unemployment' and might be able to waive work requirements for that reason. If there's more I wasn't aware of it --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:914492787] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Darkman124 posted...</cite> <quote>really the biggest thing about this is almost no SNAP benefits go to families without children if you review the actual funding provision provided, children are the main driver in receiving money so this is mostly a set of rules that apply to a tiny fraction of the program's budget and those rules will probably cost more than they save. as tends to be the case for most 'make sure welfare is being used appropriately!!!111one' legislation the job training req is probably the dumbest part of it since that directly impacts actual recipients and just creates paperwork @Balrog0 why are you not here</quote> My understanding of what Trump did is that it was pretty narrow. I thought he had just changed the cutoff for what areas count as 'high unemployment' and might be able to waive work requirements for that reason. If there's more I wasn't aware of it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 12/21/18 9:10:16 AM #134:	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_xHsZDsIQA" data-time=" --- 3DS: 1848-2391-0198 "May the Father of Understanding guide us" <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:914492791] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_xHsZDsIQA" data-time="</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Funkydog 12/21/18 9:12:08 AM #135:	Zerocide posted... Albel-Nox posted... iClockwork posted... gadgaurd posted... Not everyone CAN get a job. Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society. So much this but folks wanna pretend that lazyass people who beg for handouts don't exist. They make up such a small amount of those claiming they are irrelevant. --- https://imgur.com/BGbZK <cite>Funkydog posted [p:914492854] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zerocide posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Albel-Nox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>iClockwork posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gadgaurd posted...</cite> <quote>Not everyone CAN get a job.</quote> Yes they can. The only people who say this are lazy and just want to leech off of society.</quote></quote> So much this but folks wanna pretend that lazyass people who beg for handouts don't exist.</quote> They make up such a small amount of those claiming they are irrelevant.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DarkProto05 12/21/18 9:18:45 AM #136:	gatorsPENSbucs posted... DarkProto05 posted... The opposite is a huge problem as well. I've met people who make 40k to 60k a year and get food stamps because they know people who work in the system and cheat the system. They are taking away benefits from families who don't make enough money. It's complete bullshit. I've seen some incredibly rich people get their kids lunch for free, using the moms 2 hour a week job as reference. All types of shit, memberships places. It's crazy. Unbelievable. This is a side of the spectrum the government needs to crack down on. --- Alpha Sapphire FC: 2552 5569 3267 <cite>DarkProto05 posted [p:914493072] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>The opposite is a huge problem as well. I've met people who make 40k to 60k a year and get food stamps because they know people who work in the system and cheat the system. They are taking away benefits from families who don't make enough money. It's complete bullshit.</quote> I've seen some incredibly rich people get their kids lunch for free, using the moms 2 hour a week job as reference. All types of shit, memberships places. It's crazy.</quote> Unbelievable. This is a side of the spectrum the government needs to crack down on.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Balrog0 12/21/18 9:18:46 AM #137:	Well its more like those lazy people are difficult to weed out and the measures necessary to do so will either 1) kick off lots of people who don't deserve to lose the subsidy or 2) be so expensive so as to make it cheaper just to let the perhaps 5% of abusers to just abuse the program The thing you have to understand is that if your career goal is to live off public assistance you'll work at keeping it like it's your job because it is. It's really difficult to design hoops they won't jump through but that needy people down on their luck and trying to better themselves will. it's the other way around. --- But to you who are listening I say: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. <cite>Balrog0 posted [p:914493074] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>Well its more like those lazy people are difficult to weed out and the measures necessary to do so will either 1) kick off lots of people who don't deserve to lose the subsidy or 2) be so expensive so as to make it cheaper just to let the perhaps 5% of abusers to just abuse the program The thing you have to understand is that if your career goal is to live off public assistance you'll work at keeping it like it's your job because it is. It's really difficult to design hoops they won't jump through but that needy people down on their luck and trying to better themselves will. it's the other way around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Darkman124 12/21/18 9:26:24 AM #138:	That, and the actual level of assistance provided is piss-poor and not something a person can live on comfortably. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. <cite>Darkman124 posted [p:914493347] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>That, and the actual level of assistance provided is piss-poor and not something a person can live on comfortably.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FL81 12/21/18 9:41:36 AM #139:	I'm as against the welfare state as anyone else, but the way it's set up currently, just working a full-time minimum wage job means you "make too much money" to qualify for food stamps in most circumstances. --- https://imgtc.com/i/uBYqPMK.gif https://imgtc.com/i/UAGNJFv.gif https://imgtc.com/i/cBTnWgf.png https://imgtc.com/i/wdjM3F8.png <cite>FL81 posted [p:914493897] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>I'm as against the welfare state as anyone else, but the way it's set up currently, just working a full-time minimum wage job means you "make too much money" to qualify for food stamps in most circumstances.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MARKINGRAM22 12/21/18 9:44:52 AM #140:	ThugLife247 posted... Isnt this literal slavery You are dumb. <cite>MARKINGRAM22 posted [p:914494017] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>ThugLife247 posted...</cite> <quote>Isnt this literal slavery</quote> You are dumb.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 12/21/18 9:49:42 AM #141:	DarkProto05 posted... gatorsPENSbucs posted... DarkProto05 posted... The opposite is a huge problem as well. I've met people who make 40k to 60k a year and get food stamps because they know people who work in the system and cheat the system. They are taking away benefits from families who don't make enough money. It's complete bullshit. I've seen some incredibly rich people get their kids lunch for free, using the moms 2 hour a week job as reference. All types of shit, memberships places. It's crazy. Unbelievable. This is a side of the spectrum the government needs to crack down on. It's called public assistance fraud and there are in fact law enforcement agencies in every state that exist solely to crack down on it. If you see it, report it. --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:914494184] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>gatorsPENSbucs posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DarkProto05 posted...</cite> <quote>The opposite is a huge problem as well. I've met people who make 40k to 60k a year and get food stamps because they know people who work in the system and cheat the system. They are taking away benefits from families who don't make enough money. It's complete bullshit.</quote> I've seen some incredibly rich people get their kids lunch for free, using the moms 2 hour a week job as reference. All types of shit, memberships places. It's crazy.</quote> Unbelievable. This is a side of the spectrum the government needs to crack down on.</quote> It's called public assistance fraud and there are in fact law enforcement agencies in every state that exist solely to crack down on it. If you see it, report it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
AutumnBlaze 12/21/18 10:33:16 AM #142:	Johnny_Nutcase posted... Rika_Furude posted... glitteringfairy posted... Rika_Furude posted... Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance? Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive. Not enough jobs.... jerk off hand gesture I dont agree with the whole thing but unemployment is so low that job scarcity really isnt a valid excuse. --- https://tinyurl.com/yb7vsz4u - https://tinyurl.com/y9pjxpd6 - https://tinyurl.com/y8duhbc6 https://tinyurl.com/ybrqjwzs - https://derpibooru.org/1826526 <cite>AutumnBlaze posted [p:914495692] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it</quote> Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance?</quote> Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive.</quote> Not enough jobs.... jerk off hand gesture</quote> I dont agree with the whole thing but unemployment is so low that job scarcity really isnt a valid excuse.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 12/21/18 10:57:17 AM #143:	AutumnBlaze posted... Johnny_Nutcase posted... Rika_Furude posted... glitteringfairy posted... Rika_Furude posted... Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance? Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive. Not enough jobs.... jerk off hand gesture I dont agree with the whole thing but unemployment is so low that job scarcity really isnt a valid excuse. It is for staving off inflation.. in a well run economy, at least. --- "I don't think anyone seriously thinks that Trump supporters orgasm when they see racism in the news." - Me, reassuring Ammonitida <cite>Kineth posted [p:914496511] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>AutumnBlaze posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Johnny_Nutcase posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>glitteringfairy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote> Sounds dumb but ofc americans would support it</quote> Why do you think it's dumb that able bodied people should be required to work to get government assistance?</quote> Have you considered the fact that theres not enough jobs for everyone? The point of government welfare programs are so that people in bad situations dont have to turn to crime to survive.</quote> Not enough jobs.... jerk off hand gesture</quote> I dont agree with the whole thing but unemployment is so low that job scarcity really isnt a valid excuse.</quote> It is for staving off inflation.. in a well run economy, at least.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PokemonHunter69 12/21/18 11:39:28 AM #144:	Fair next? Grow up and get a job --- http://tinyurl.com/j8nkn64 / http://tinyurl.com/gp8btex / http://tinyurl.com/gv6leno / http://tinyurl.com/zpf655t http://tinyurl.com/jcb8buc / PKMNH69///REEE <cite>PokemonHunter69 posted [p:914498196] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>Fair next? Grow up and get a job</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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E32005 12/21/18 11:43:36 AM #146:	Pitlord_Special posted... Let them eat bootstraps -Milo Antoinette --- https://i.imgtc.com/IR4XrBA.gif https://i.imgtc.com/7X1rBRv.gif <cite>E32005 posted [p:914498340] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Pitlord_Special posted...</cite> <quote>Let them eat bootstraps</quote> -Milo Antoinette </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Knowledge_King 12/21/18 11:45:11 AM #147:	I'm not seeing an issue with this. --- http://www.warwithwords.com Run: 4 Stars and IndieReader Approved:https://www.amazon.com/Run-M-N-ebook/dp/B076R7DCHN <cite>Knowledge_King posted [p:914498405] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>I'm not seeing an issue with this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gamepimp12 12/21/18 12:05:28 PM #148:	I dont see how forcing people to get deadend jobs is of any benefit to anybody. --- we rich now but used to be slaves,we pushing whips now we used to be whipped,rockin chains when we used to be in 'em <cite>gamepimp12 posted [p:914499271] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>I dont see how forcing people to get deadend jobs is of any benefit to anybody.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The_True_King 12/21/18 12:11:52 PM #149:	Amazing law by trump. Only the lazy will suffer and we don't need nor want lazy individuals. --- 2x all-American wrestler and 155 NAGA champ <cite>The_True_King posted [p:914499573] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>Amazing law by trump. Only the lazy will suffer and we don't need nor want lazy individuals.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
mario2000 12/21/18 12:15:56 PM #150:	and this does include assistance to get jobs, right? right? --- Arrrr the SS Goku, Mighty fine boat... -fatmatt Hope Frieza doesn't chuck an Iceberg at the Goku, otherwise it's all over. -Nekoslash <cite>mario2000 posted [p:914499769] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote>and this does include assistance to get jobs, right? right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Jagr_68 12/21/18 12:18:29 PM #151:	Hairistotle posted... that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly "Because fuck anyone that isn't me" - average American moron --- New York Rangers [2004-2008] https://imgur.com/BLrKxEd https://card.psnprofiles.com/2/Jaromiroquai68.png <cite>Jagr_68 posted [p:914499886] in Trump sign... [t:77321502]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hairistotle posted...</cite> <quote>that's fucked up why punish people who are already doing badly</quote> "Because fuck anyone that isn't me" - average American moron</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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