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Dragonblade01 12/19/18 11:14:16 PM #101:	darkphoenix181 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I mean, he preached some pretty messed up values. Like what? Like praising the idea of giving all you have to the church, leaving yourself destitute. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:914423717] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean, he preached some pretty messed up values.</quote> Like what?</quote> Like praising the idea of giving all you have to the church, leaving yourself destitute.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LogicWings 12/19/18 11:15:58 PM #102:	Vampires and Homosexuals cannot procreate naturally...this was Stokers subtle meaning...sucking the blood...life from their victims...creating a new life. <cite>LogicWings posted [p:914423794] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote>Vampires and Homosexuals cannot procreate naturally...this was Stokers subtle meaning...sucking the blood...life from their victims...creating a new life.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 12/19/18 11:30:42 PM #103:	LogicWings posted... Yearnings to be with her own natural kind Wordsworth....its what the Founders wanted...thats why they penned naturalization and natural born in the Constitution. A President must be the Founders natural kind... Barack Obama is half white. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:914424436] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>LogicWings posted...</cite> <quote>Yearnings to be with her own natural kind Wordsworth....its what the Founders wanted...thats why they penned naturalization and natural born in the Constitution. A President must be the Founders natural kind...</quote> Barack Obama is half white.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkphoenix181 12/19/18 11:33:43 PM #104:	Dragonblade01 posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I mean, he preached some pretty messed up values. Like what? Like praising the idea of giving all you have to the church, leaving yourself destitute. Church didn't exist while he was alive so...not sure what you are talking about. Perhaps you refer to the widow's mite? Thing about that is he didn't encourage her to do it and was just explaining the she gave more than the rich people did which mathematically is true (percents). Maybe you refer to the rich young ruler? If so, that was to give to the poor and not the Church. And I am not so sure that is as messed up as you think it is: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/austria/7190750/Millionaire-gives-away-fortune-that-made-him-miserable.html http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35804710/ns/us_news-giving/t/uk-millionaire-move-mud-hut/ --- chill02 to me: you are beautiful <cite>darkphoenix181 posted [p:914424558] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean, he preached some pretty messed up values.</quote> Like what?</quote> Like praising the idea of giving all you have to the church, leaving yourself destitute.</quote> Church didn't exist while he was alive so...not sure what you are talking about. Perhaps you refer to the widow's mite? Thing about that is he didn't encourage her to do it and was just explaining the she gave more than the rich people did which mathematically is true (percents). Maybe you refer to the rich young ruler? If so, that was to give to the poor and not the Church. And I am not so sure that is as messed up as you think it is: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/austria/7190750/Millionaire-gives-away-fortune-that-made-him-miserable.html http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35804710/ns/us_news-giving/t/uk-millionaire-move-mud-hut/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dragonblade01 12/19/18 11:44:23 PM #105:	darkphoenix181 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... darkphoenix181 posted... Dragonblade01 posted... I mean, he preached some pretty messed up values. Like what? Like praising the idea of giving all you have to the church, leaving yourself destitute. Church didn't exist while he was alive so...not sure what you are talking about. Perhaps you refer to the widow's mite? Thing about that is he didn't encourage her to do it and was just explaining the she gave more than the rich people did with mathematically is true (percents). Maybe you refer to the rich young ruler? If so, that was to give to the poor and not the Church. And I am not so sure that is as messed up as you think it is: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/austria/7190750/Millionaire-gives-away-fortune-that-made-him-miserable.html http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35804710/ns/us_news-giving/t/uk-millionaire-move-mud-hut/ You're right, I should have said temple, but the point is that he's praising the act of giving all you possess, which is a horrible thing to do. Hell, at least one of the apostles was described as leaving everything behind to follow him. That's just irresponsible teaching. <cite>Dragonblade01 posted [p:914424993] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkphoenix181 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Dragonblade01 posted...</cite> <quote> I mean, he preached some pretty messed up values.</quote> Like what?</quote> Like praising the idea of giving all you have to the church, leaving yourself destitute.</quote> Church didn't exist while he was alive so...not sure what you are talking about. Perhaps you refer to the widow's mite? Thing about that is he didn't encourage her to do it and was just explaining the she gave more than the rich people did with mathematically is true (percents). Maybe you refer to the rich young ruler? If so, that was to give to the poor and not the Church. And I am not so sure that is as messed up as you think it is: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/austria/7190750/Millionaire-gives-away-fortune-that-made-him-miserable.html http://www.nbcnews.com/id/35804710/ns/us_news-giving/t/uk-millionaire-move-mud-hut/</quote> You're right, I should have said temple, but the point is that he's praising the act of giving all you possess, which is a horrible thing to do. Hell, at least one of the apostles was described as leaving everything behind to follow him. That's just irresponsible teaching.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LogicWings 12/20/18 2:09:01 AM #106:	jumi posted... LogicWings posted... Yearnings to be with her own natural kind Wordsworth....its what the Founders wanted...thats why they penned naturalization and natural born in the Constitution. A President must be the Founders natural kind... Barack Obama is half white. He wasnt natural born. Half white isnt natural born. Kindred means Natural. <cite>LogicWings posted [p:914429662] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>jumi posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LogicWings posted...</cite> <quote>Yearnings to be with her own natural kind Wordsworth....its what the Founders wanted...thats why they penned naturalization and natural born in the Constitution. A President must be the Founders natural kind...</quote> Barack Obama is half white.</quote> He wasnt natural born. Half white isnt natural born. Kindred means Natural.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Humble_Novice 12/20/18 2:10:09 AM #107:	LogicWings posted... Read Federalist #2..John Jay...become enlightened. Stop being a disingenuous troll. People don't condone white supremacists in these parts and never will. Accept the fact that minorities will always have a place in America. <cite>Humble_Novice posted [p:914429706] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>LogicWings posted...</cite> <quote>Read Federalist #2..John Jay...become enlightened.</quote> Stop being a disingenuous troll. People don't condone white supremacists in these parts and never will. Accept the fact that minorities will always have a place in America.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
LogicWings 12/20/18 2:11:37 AM #108:	Humble_Novice posted... LogicWings posted... Read Federalist #2..John Jay...become enlightened. Stop being a disingenuous troll. People don't condone white supremacists in these parts and never will. Accept the fact that minorities will always have a place in America. UnKindred means UnNatural. Naturalization means immigrants and citizens must be the same kindred and natural. Naturalization is a Kind. <cite>LogicWings posted [p:914429742] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Humble_Novice posted...</cite> <quote><cite>LogicWings posted...</cite> <quote>Read Federalist #2..John Jay...become enlightened.</quote> Stop being a disingenuous troll. People don't condone white supremacists in these parts and never will. Accept the fact that minorities will always have a place in America.</quote> UnKindred means UnNatural. Naturalization means immigrants and citizens must be the same kindred and natural. Naturalization is a Kind.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 12/20/18 2:15:34 AM #110:	ITT: Abolitionists didnt exist --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:914429849] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote>ITT: Abolitionists didnt exist</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 12/20/18 2:18:53 AM #111:	can someone sum up this naturalized thing this guy is ranting about --- Please <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:914429954] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote>can someone sum up this naturalized thing this guy is ranting about</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MarqueeSeries 12/20/18 2:26:49 AM #112:	PleaseClap posted... can someone sum up this naturalized thing this guy is ranting about Another right wing new user is grasping at semantic straws to try to shit on people of color Must be a day that ends in Y --- Posted with GameRaven 3.5.1 <cite>MarqueeSeries posted [p:914430156] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>PleaseClap posted...</cite> <quote>can someone sum up this naturalized thing this guy is ranting about</quote> Another right wing new user is grasping at semantic straws to try to shit on people of color Must be a day that ends in Y</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
PleaseClap 12/20/18 2:43:31 AM #113:	oh, he's warned --- Please <cite>PleaseClap posted [p:914430568] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote>oh, he's warned</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 12/20/18 3:46:52 AM #114:	Warned. Lol. --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:914431839] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote>Warned. Lol.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 12/20/18 4:22:58 AM #115:	Lol, mods once again using the kid gloves on white supremacists. This site is a joke. --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:914432442] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote>Lol, mods once again using the kid gloves on white supremacists. This site is a joke.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 12/20/18 8:43:17 AM #116:	Blue_Inigo posted... ITT: Abolitionists didnt exist I don't think any post that mentioned abolitionist even got replies that addressed it. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:914437369] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>ITT: Abolitionists didnt exist</quote> I don't think any post that mentioned abolitionist even got replies that addressed it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 12/20/18 8:44:15 AM #117:	Everyone before the 20th century bathed like once a week --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. <cite>Irony posted [p:914437395] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote>Everyone before the 20th century bathed like once a week</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Anteaterking 12/20/18 9:16:51 AM #118:	@Frolex posted... Lol, mods once again using the kid gloves on white supremacists. This site is a joke. He's suspendo'd now. --- http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b136/Anteaterking/scan00021.jpg <cite>Anteaterking posted [p:914438408] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Frolex posted...</cite> <quote>Lol, mods once again using the kid gloves on white supremacists. This site is a joke.</quote> He's suspendo'd now.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RickyTheBAWSE 12/20/18 9:18:23 AM #119:	I was more disappointed in the fact that people were replying to him. --- Never let those intent on misunderstanding you be the narrator to YOUR story! Context? Context!? CONTEXT!!! <cite>RickyTheBAWSE posted [p:914438459] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote>I was more disappointed in the fact that people were replying to him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Frolex 12/20/18 9:20:38 AM #120:	Anteaterking posted... He's suspendo'd now. guess it's a step up from giving some one 3 nkl's for linking to the same white supremacist propaganda three times of the course of a day --- https://imgur.com/HOLHd4k https://imgur.com/six2WTN <cite>Frolex posted [p:914438536] in Is it unfa... [t:77317840]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote>He's suspendo'd now. </quote> guess it's a step up from giving some one 3 nkl's for linking to the same white supremacist propaganda three times of the course of a day</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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