Poll of the Day > C/D You have to have lived through something to understand and comment about it.

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D. I'm aware some folk will probably have a better understanding of things having lived through said things as they have experience to draw from but it's always irked me when folk say "how do you know you've never done *insert something here*". I mean I've never died before but I can tell you I won't be coming back when I do thus I don't want to. Also by that logic we know nothing about ancient history as we never lived through it. Thoughts?
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wwinterj25 posted...

I mean I've never died before but I can tell you I won't be coming back

Not necessarily. People are resuscitated from death all of the time. Probably on a daily basis.
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True. Humans as a species couldn't possibly convey or pass down information to each other and haven't throughout history.

You don't need to drive a Porsche to know it goes fast. So yeah with the tools we have to discover info on any topic we like I'd think that saying is baloney.

Deny. You can get a better understanding of it by experiencing it but it's not necessary.
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Sort of. You certainly have more immediate knowledge if it's hands-on. Reading about landing a plane, or driving a Porsche, isn't the same as doing it. Reading about rebuilding an engine, or dancing ballet, isn't the same as doing it. Reading about video games isn't the same as playing them.
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Depends on the gravity of the situation.

Death in the family? Yes.

Stubbing your toe? No (bad example, I'm sure almost everyone has done this lol)
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Far-Queue posted...

wwinterj25 posted...

I mean I've never died before but I can tell you I won't be coming back

Not necessarily. People are resuscitated from death all of the time. Probably on a daily basis.

I said that once here...
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Far-Queue posted...

People are resuscitated from death all of the time. Probably on a daily basis.

Then they haven't really died.
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Confirm.

One can suppose all they want, but without actually experiencing something, you'll never know it completely.
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SunWuKung420 posted...

Confirm.

One can suppose all they want, but without actually experiencing something, you'll never know it completely.

I guess only cancer victims are going to cure cancer then. I find something very poetic in that.
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Depends on the thing. However, some things are so personalized that even if you experience it, you're not going to get the same experience as others. There are always going to be a lot of variables. Two people can be put into the exact same situation and, because of how they view it and handle it, have vastly different outcomes.
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Depends on the experience in question. Some things are pretty much impossible to understand without personally experiencing them. Some things, you can get a good sense of just by thinking about them. Some things, you actually stand a better chance of understanding if you aren't experiencing them, since the distance helps you to consider them more objectively. Making a blanket statement would be stupid.

wwinterj25 posted...

Far-Queue posted...

People are resuscitated from death all of the time. Probably on a daily basis.

Then they haven't really died.

Anyone without a heartbeat is considered clinically dead, but can still be resuscitated. It's not until that cardiac arrest is determined to be irreversible and/or irreversible cessation of brain function occurs that they're considered medically dead. That one, you don't come back from.

_AdjI_ posted...

Anyone without a heartbeat is considered clinically dead, but can still be resuscitated.

So not actually dead then. As you pointed out the only real death is when the brain dies and as far as I know nobody has come back from that.
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wwinterj25 posted...

Medically dead is the one that counts. Again you don't come back from death.

Only if "one that counts" means "the one you can't come back from," which is pretty circular logic. Prior to the development of CPR and other resuscitation methods, cardiac arrest was the primary criterion for death. The concept of "medical death" came about to indicate the difference there, but it's still perfectly reasonable to consider clinical death to be death.

_AdjI_ posted...

Only if "one that counts" means "the one you can't come back from," which is pretty circular logic.

Whatever floats your boat.
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