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gunplagirl
12/16/18 10:42:27 PM
#101:


MuayThai85 posted...
OctilIery posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you're so uneducated on this that even gunplagirl could shut you down in that argument.


No, biology can't be denied. Why are trans women dominating track and field? Why is a trans women dominating handball? Why is a trans woman dominating high school wrestling? Why did a trans woman literally break a female MMA fighters face? Are you telling me the natural physical advantages they got from being born a man takes no part in that?

So you admit trans women have a physical advantage over cis women in a beauty competition, ergo trans women are naturally more beautiful. Thanks.
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OctilIery
12/16/18 10:42:43 PM
#102:


gunplagirl posted...
OctilIery posted...
gunplagirl posted...
OctilIery posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you're so uneducated on this that even gunplagirl could shut you down in that argument.


Let's look at all those other beauty pageant winners who won solely because they run contrary to societal standards of beauty

How many double amputee lesbian Muslim Latina beauty queens are there?

....You do realise I fully support her in being in the pageant and have said nothing even remotely disparaging about her or her win, right?

It's an argument that shuts down muaythai's "well it's only because she's trans" BS, it was me spring boarding off of your set up

Fair enough.
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OctilIery
12/16/18 10:43:24 PM
#103:


MuayThai85 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

So you think she won Spain due to nothing but sjws?


She won Miss Spain for that reason, yes. It's a beauty pageant and guess what, she isn't beautiful.

Except she is.
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 10:43:54 PM
#104:


MuayThai85 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

So you think she won Spain due to nothing but sjws?


She won Miss Spain for that reason, yes. It's a beauty pageant and guess what, she isn't beautiful.

She won the miss Spain title in a series of beauty pageants

Yet you're saying she's not beautiful

Now that's a conundrum that can be solved with one simple thing (you hate all trans women)
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MuayThai85
12/16/18 10:45:10 PM
#105:


gunplagirl posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
OctilIery posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you're so uneducated on this that even gunplagirl could shut you down in that argument.


No, biology can't be denied. Why are trans women dominating track and field? Why is a trans women dominating handball? Why is a trans woman dominating high school wrestling? Why did a trans woman literally break a female MMA fighters face? Are you telling me the natural physical advantages they got from being born a man takes no part in that?

So you admit trans women have a physical advantage over cis women in a beauty competition, ergo trans women are naturally more beautiful. Thanks.


No, they have a physical advantage over cis women in athletics due to being born a man and having testicles that pumped testosterone through their for years.
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 10:45:23 PM
#106:


OctilIery posted...
Fair enough.

I definitely should have clarified though. Got distracted while typing because I had to check notes while writing up my daily work report.
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gunplagirl
12/16/18 10:45:57 PM
#107:


MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
OctilIery posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you're so uneducated on this that even gunplagirl could shut you down in that argument.


No, biology can't be denied. Why are trans women dominating track and field? Why is a trans women dominating handball? Why is a trans woman dominating high school wrestling? Why did a trans woman literally break a female MMA fighters face? Are you telling me the natural physical advantages they got from being born a man takes no part in that?

So you admit trans women have a physical advantage over cis women in a beauty competition, ergo trans women are naturally more beautiful. Thanks.


No, they have a physical advantage over cis women in athletics due to being born a man and having testicles that pumped testosterone through their for years.

Bringing up athletics in a beauty pageant topic

Uhhhhhhhhhhh

Yikes
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OctilIery
12/16/18 10:50:13 PM
#108:


MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
OctilIery posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

I'm going to take a wild guess and say you're so uneducated on this that even gunplagirl could shut you down in that argument.


No, biology can't be denied. Why are trans women dominating track and field? Why is a trans women dominating handball? Why is a trans woman dominating high school wrestling? Why did a trans woman literally break a female MMA fighters face? Are you telling me the natural physical advantages they got from being born a man takes no part in that?

So you admit trans women have a physical advantage over cis women in a beauty competition, ergo trans women are naturally more beautiful. Thanks.


No, they have a physical advantage over cis women in athletics due to being born a man and having testicles that pumped testosterone through their for years.

It's nowhere near that simple, though.
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MuayThai85
12/16/18 10:54:39 PM
#109:


OctilIery posted...

It's nowhere near that simple, though.


It is though. Men and women are genetically different. Men naturally have broader shoulders, denser bones, more muscle mass, etc. All of which gives a trans woman a clear physical advantage over cis women in athletics.
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OctilIery
12/16/18 11:03:33 PM
#110:


MuayThai85 posted...
It is though.

It isn't though. There are tons of additional factors, including when they transitioned and how long ago. Not to mention being a man doesn't automatically make you physically better off than a woman.
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SauI_Goodman
12/16/18 11:06:31 PM
#111:


OctilIery posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
It is though.

It isn't though. There are tons of additional factors, including when they transitioned and how long ago. Not to mention being a man doesn't automatically make you physically better off than a woman.


There are exceptions of course. Nicole Bass makes most men look like puny weaklings. But on average men are stronger than women.
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MuayThai85
12/16/18 11:08:06 PM
#112:


SauI_Goodman posted...
OctilIery posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
It is though.

It isn't though. There are tons of additional factors, including when they transitioned and how long ago. Not to mention being a man doesn't automatically make you physically better off than a woman.


There are exceptions of course. Nicole Bass makes most men look like puny weaklings. But on average men are stronger than women.


Not even on average, more like at least 95% of the time (and I'm being generous).
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catboy0_0
12/16/18 11:10:18 PM
#113:


I don't find her attractive, but the same could be said for a lot of contestants regardless.
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A_Good_Boy
12/16/18 11:22:29 PM
#114:


MuayThai85 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

So you think she won Spain due to nothing but sjws?


She won Miss Spain for that reason, yes. It's a beauty pageant and guess what, she isn't beautiful.

Why do you say she isn't beautiful despite the fact that she's winning beauty contests? Her beauty is actually on record. She's one of the few people on the planet that can back her beauty up with credentials.
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MuayThai85
12/17/18 12:19:53 AM
#115:


A_Good_Boy posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
gunplagirl posted...
SauI_Goodman posted...
I have no problem with transgenders except when it comes to competitions.


So you admit that transgender women have an advantage over cis women with regards to beauty.


They have an advantage when it comes to sjw's trying to be progressive for their sake. That and they have natural male advantages over female competitors when it comes to athletics as well.

So you think she won Spain due to nothing but sjws?


She won Miss Spain for that reason, yes. It's a beauty pageant and guess what, she isn't beautiful.

Why do you say she isn't beautiful despite the fact that she's winning beauty contests? Her beauty is actually on record. She's one of the few people on the planet that can back her beauty up with credentials.


Because she objectively isn't beautiful. Ws by far the worst looking contestant in the competition. If a cis female had that jawline there would be no end to the comments of how "manish" she looked.
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A_Good_Boy
12/17/18 12:21:09 AM
#116:


MuayThai85 posted...
Because she objectively isn't beautiful.

So prove it.
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MuayThai85
12/17/18 12:22:04 AM
#117:


A_Good_Boy posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Because she objectively isn't beautiful.

So prove it.


That jawline is all the proof anyone should need.
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A_Good_Boy
12/17/18 12:25:18 AM
#118:


MuayThai85 posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...
MuayThai85 posted...
Because she objectively isn't beautiful.

So prove it.


That jawline is all the proof anyone should need.

That's an opinion, not proof. Back up your statement that she is objectively not beautiful.
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Zodd3224
12/17/18 12:25:54 AM
#119:


Objectively? She's pretty sexy aside from the Hank Hill booty
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Mister_Spyker
12/17/18 8:13:21 AM
#120:


Her face still looks masculine, it's not just jawline, Men have a different cranial structure, this makes no sense. Only is 2018 could we be discussing this sort of bs. She's not a woman, and nothing will ever change that. I don't want to be harsh, but accept reality, gosh. We live in the age of body acceptance, why don't they also push for gender acceptance? You can be a man and like things that society considers girly, you don't have to deform your body and call yourself something that you are clearly not. It will never be the same - Accept it, move on, these trans people are fixated on this ONE issue - gender, it's an obsession and it makes them miserable. Changing their body doesn't make them less miserable, do some research about people who transitioned, they are usually not that much better off. Is it society's fault? Is society making them miserable? Can society be at fault for not wanting to recognize people who see themselves as women as women? We don't have indulge other peoples points of view. We don't have to accept something that's clearly not normal as normal. If this was normal, we wouldn't even be debating it.

Go on and hate me, but this is how I see things, if you want to show me another way to see it, just tell me, I don't hate these people, I'm more confused that anything, but I think that as a society, we are enabling something nonsensical.
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TwoDoorPunkCab
12/17/18 8:16:53 AM
#121:


i'm curious to know how someone can be "objectively beautiful"
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SaithSayer
12/17/18 8:38:55 AM
#122:


SSJCAT posted...
TheRealDill1999 posted...
We really don't need non-Americans criticizing Trump. This contestant is clearly getting her information from biased media. Trump has been supportive of the LBGT community since his campaign days.

hes the one trying to make it a requirement for people to identify as the sex assigned at birth

Reality is sooo twentieth century.
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SSJCAT
12/17/18 8:41:30 AM
#123:


SaithSayer posted...
SSJCAT posted...
TheRealDill1999 posted...
We really don't need non-Americans criticizing Trump. This contestant is clearly getting her information from biased media. Trump has been supportive of the LBGT community since his campaign days.

hes the one trying to make it a requirement for people to identify as the sex assigned at birth

Reality is sooo twentieth century.

ummm ok your first post said he was supportive of the lgbt and then you just confirmed that neither of you are lol
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SaithSayer
12/17/18 8:48:08 AM
#124:


Just to clear shit up, what are we supposed to call people born with both parts now? I can't keep up with what all idiots have decided is "wrong" to say now.

I support their plight. Same with gay people regardless of if they're male or female. I don't support just making a claim and then trying to force the world to fall in line.
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A_Good_Boy
12/17/18 8:48:08 AM
#125:


http://grownups.pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/factsopinions.html

It's been a while since I've had to post this, but a frighteningly large number of supposed adults in this topic really need a refresher.
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A_Good_Boy
12/17/18 8:49:30 AM
#126:


SaithSayer posted...
Just to clear shit up, what are we supposed to call people born with both parts now? I can't keep up with what all idiots have decided is "wrong" to say now.

What they ask you to call them.

If you need this problem broken down to you any further then just let me know.
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Dyinglegacy
12/17/18 8:50:38 AM
#127:


TwoDoorPunkCab posted...
i'm curious to know how someone can be "objectively beautiful"


Can't be
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SaithSayer
12/17/18 8:54:11 AM
#128:


A_Good_Boy posted...
http://grownups.pbskids.org/arthur/games/factsopinions/factsopinions.html

It's been a while since I've had to post this, but a frighteningly large number of supposed adults in this topic really need a refresher.

At least this time you added to the conversation rather than just saying yikes.
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MrMallard
12/17/18 9:05:47 AM
#129:


As long as she's pretty and has a personality that benefits her Miss Universe chances, then yeah - let her compete.

Also aren't folks who are born with both sets classified as "intersex"? I've heard that there's confusion when parents decide to get surgery for one set of genitals, and then the kid starts presenting as the other sex during puberty and they have to break the news - and maybe sometimes both are present but one set is more pronounced than the other? Either way, that's a complicated world - and out of sheer ignorance, I've thought that the term "intersex" summed up that side of the coin.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/17/18 12:13:59 PM
#130:


MuayThai85 more like MwaaaaahhhhhThai85
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MattSFfrd
12/17/18 2:27:07 PM
#131:


i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?
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A_Good_Boy
12/17/18 2:30:59 PM
#132:


MattSFfrd posted...
i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?

Good question. Why does SBAllen allow you to post here?
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OctilIery
12/17/18 8:23:23 PM
#133:


MattSFfrd posted...
i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?

The better question is why do you still erroneously think transgenderism is mental illness?
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MattSFfrd
12/18/18 7:23:13 AM
#134:


OctilIery posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?

The better question is why do you still erroneously think transgenderism is mental illness?


because it is
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/18/18 7:46:33 AM
#135:


MattSFfrd posted...
OctilIery posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?

The better question is why do you still erroneously think transgenderism is mental illness?


because it is


Feel free to enjoy being moderated for that.
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SaithSayer
12/18/18 7:47:50 AM
#136:


Not even sure if I disagree but "Because it is." is always a bad argument.
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TheRealDill2000
12/18/18 7:50:38 AM
#137:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
OctilIery posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?

The better question is why do you still erroneously think transgenderism is mental illness?


because it is


Feel free to enjoy being moderated for that.

This sort of nonsense rarely gets modded.
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OctilIery
12/18/18 9:13:50 AM
#138:


MattSFfrd posted...
OctilIery posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?

The better question is why do you still erroneously think transgenderism is mental illness?


because it is

Except it isn't, and hasn't been considered one for at least fifty years.
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GoodOlJr
12/18/18 9:40:00 AM
#139:


OctilIery posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?

The better question is why do you still erroneously think transgenderism is mental illness?


Theres definitely some body/gender dysmorphia when you've had this many surgeries
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/18/18 11:37:05 AM
#140:


TheRealDill2000 posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
OctilIery posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
i think the more important question is, why are we normalizing mental illness?

The better question is why do you still erroneously think transgenderism is mental illness?


because it is


Feel free to enjoy being moderated for that.

This sort of nonsense rarely gets modded.


Take an L. I'll take a W. He got warned for it.
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Bruce_Somali
12/18/18 11:44:11 AM
#141:


Wow, and here I am about to go to court over this stupid dog show not letting my cat compete even though she thinks she's a dog.

Bigots!!!!
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ImTheMacheteGuy
12/18/18 11:51:30 AM
#142:


Bruce_Somali posted...
Wow, and here I am about to go to court over this stupid dog show not letting my cat compete even though she thinks she's a dog.

Bigots!!!!


This post is dumbstupid and doesn't make sense in context.
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SaithSayer
12/18/18 12:20:30 PM
#143:


These days, you are whatever you claim to be and nobody gets to call you out on it.
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Alexanaxela
12/18/18 3:17:11 PM
#144:


smh spain
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GameboyTroy
12/19/18 1:33:09 PM
#145:


L0Z posted...
Im sick and tired of this being shoved down our throats

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GiggetySplicer
12/21/18 4:48:06 AM
#146:


Alexanaxela posted...
smh spain

shut your face. Spain's pretty cool
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