Poll of the Day > Man, I forgot just fucking expensive video games are.

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xjayguyx
12/15/18 3:18:21 PM
#51:


zebatov posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
zebatov posted...
What's FE Warriors? Part of the Warriors games? What's the FE part?


Warriors game with FE characters and themes.

I don't know what FE is. What is it?


Fire emblem
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zebatov
12/15/18 3:19:10 PM
#52:


xjayguyx posted...
zebatov posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
zebatov posted...
What's FE Warriors? Part of the Warriors games? What's the FE part?


Warriors game with FE characters and themes.

I don't know what FE is. What is it?


Fire emblem

Thanks. I'm surprised I had to ask twice tbh. Feel like I'm talking to every girl ever.
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 3:21:54 PM
#53:


zebatov posted...
xjayguyx posted...
zebatov posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
zebatov posted...
What's FE Warriors? Part of the Warriors games? What's the FE part?


Warriors game with FE characters and themes.

I don't know what FE is. What is it?


Fire emblem

Thanks. I'm surprised I had to ask twice tbh. Feel like I'm talking to every girl ever.


That's how I feel when I'm talking to people that defend digital over physical. Except replace girl with idiot.
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Kenneth_Writer
12/15/18 3:28:22 PM
#54:


xjayguyx posted...
That's how I feel when I'm talking to people that defend digital over physical. Except replace girl with idiot.

For future reference, this can be considered a moddable offence.

You need to be more nuanced and not directly insult or imply that you're insulting others and have them insult themselves if you want to go about this.

Otherwise it can be marked as flaming (Even if you just use things like "stupid" "idiot" or other low level ones that you'd hear on a school yard.) and could result in action taken against you, and depending on the severity of it and your past history, it can end up with a substantial karma reduction and a suspension.

Mods are cracking down even on basic ones like this compared to a few years ago when they only really cared if you said genuinely offensive things.
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supness420
12/15/18 3:40:04 PM
#55:


Just imagine if games inflated in price like everything else along with cost of living.

I paid 60$ for Super Mario All Stars for the SNES in 93'. Gas was about a dollar a gallon. A movie ticket was about 4$. Milk was around 2$ a gallon. Also minimum wage was around 5$.

I paid 60$ for Smash Bros. Ultimate on the Switch. Now, do the math on the other stuff mentioned above... Smash Bros should have been ALOT more.... but games take more money to make, and sell for the same prices as 25 years ago.
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zebatov
12/15/18 3:44:58 PM
#56:


Kenneth_Writer posted...
xjayguyx posted...
That's how I feel when I'm talking to people that defend digital over physical. Except replace girl with idiot.

For future reference, this can be considered a moddable offence.

You need to be more nuanced and not directly insult or imply that you're insulting others and have them insult themselves if you want to go about this.

Otherwise it can be marked as flaming (Even if you just use things like "stupid" "idiot" or other low level ones that you'd hear on a school yard.) and could result in action taken against you, and depending on the severity of it and your past history, it can end up with a substantial karma reduction and a suspension.

Mods are cracking down even on basic ones like this compared to a few years ago when they only really cared if you said genuinely offensive things.

In other words they're ultra uptight. I've even been modded for saying something that isn't even debatable.

xjayguyx posted...
Lol to the guy defending digital over physical ^

Maybe if they cost less because games don't have instruction manuals anymore, and in this instance, no case either. You don't even pay for a disc, but digital copies are the same cost as the physical copy usually. If there were consumer protection laws here like the game can never be locked out or the developer will owe the purchaser a full refund, etc.
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supness420
12/15/18 3:52:07 PM
#58:


zebatov posted...
Kenneth_Writer posted...
xjayguyx posted...
That's how I feel when I'm talking to people that defend digital over physical. Except replace girl with idiot.

For future reference, this can be considered a moddable offence.

You need to be more nuanced and not directly insult or imply that you're insulting others and have them insult themselves if you want to go about this.

Otherwise it can be marked as flaming (Even if you just use things like "stupid" "idiot" or other low level ones that you'd hear on a school yard.) and could result in action taken against you, and depending on the severity of it and your past history, it can end up with a substantial karma reduction and a suspension.

Mods are cracking down even on basic ones like this compared to a few years ago when they only really cared if you said genuinely offensive things.

In other words they're ultra upright. I've even been modded for saying something that isn't even debatable.


Yes, you are right, modding is not debatable.
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zebatov
12/15/18 3:53:34 PM
#59:


supness420 posted...
Yes, you are right, modding is not debatable.

Lol yes it is, even if you know that's exactly not what I was talking about.

IOW: "Wat."
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 3:55:19 PM
#60:


zebatov posted...
Kenneth_Writer posted...
xjayguyx posted...
That's how I feel when I'm talking to people that defend digital over physical. Except replace girl with idiot.

For future reference, this can be considered a moddable offence.

You need to be more nuanced and not directly insult or imply that you're insulting others and have them insult themselves if you want to go about this.

Otherwise it can be marked as flaming (Even if you just use things like "stupid" "idiot" or other low level ones that you'd hear on a school yard.) and could result in action taken against you, and depending on the severity of it and your past history, it can end up with a substantial karma reduction and a suspension.

Mods are cracking down even on basic ones like this compared to a few years ago when they only really cared if you said genuinely offensive things.

In other words they're ultra uptight. I've even been modded for saying something that isn't even debatable.

xjayguyx posted...
Lol to the guy defending digital over physical ^

Maybe if they cost less because games don't have instruction manuals anymore, and in this instance, no case either. You don't even pay for a disc, but digital copies are the same cost as the physical copy usually. If there were consumer protection laws here like the game can never be locked out or the developer will owe the purchaser a full refund, etc.


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Kenneth_Writer
12/15/18 3:56:25 PM
#61:


zebatov posted...
In other words they're ultra uptight. I've even been modded for saying something that isn't even debatable.

I didn't issue the heads up to you.

From what I saw, you're far more likely to just get modded for being yourself, and you made many posts that could have been reported in the occasional posting I did in the same areas as you.

As such, it would just fall on deaf ears to even attempt to tell you.
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 4:04:17 PM
#62:


xjayguyx posted...
zebatov posted...
Kenneth_Writer posted...
xjayguyx posted...
That's how I feel when I'm talking to people that defend digital over physical. Except replace girl with idiot.

For future reference, this can be considered a moddable offence.

You need to be more nuanced and not directly insult or imply that you're insulting others and have them insult themselves if you want to go about this.

Otherwise it can be marked as flaming (Even if you just use things like "stupid" "idiot" or other low level ones that you'd hear on a school yard.) and could result in action taken against you, and depending on the severity of it and your past history, it can end up with a substantial karma reduction and a suspension.

Mods are cracking down even on basic ones like this compared to a few years ago when they only really cared if you said genuinely offensive things.

In other words they're ultra uptight. I've even been modded for saying something that isn't even debatable.

xjayguyx posted...
Lol to the guy defending digital over physical ^

Maybe if they cost less because games don't have instruction manuals anymore, and in this instance, no case either. You don't even pay for a disc, but digital copies are the same cost as the physical copy usually. If there were consumer protection laws here like the game can never be locked out or the developer will owe the purchaser a full refund, etc.


?

I think hes saying digital would only be better if they were far cheaper. When you get the physical copy, youre getting a case, use to get an instruction manual, and a physical game. But with digital, youre paying the same and kind of getting less. Basically, paying the same for less. And he company gets more profit because theyre selling a game for the same amount. But using less resources, less plastic for cases, less paper for manuals, etc...

I think...
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supness420
12/15/18 4:14:02 PM
#63:


zebatov posted...
supness420 posted...
Yes, you are right, modding is not debatable.

Lol yes it is, even if you know that's exactly not what I was talking about.

IOW: "Wat."


No, I know exactly what you are whining about. It is not debatable.
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zebatov
12/15/18 4:15:39 PM
#64:


supness420 posted...
No, I know exactly what you are whining about. It is not debatable.

@supness420
What am I "whining" about?

Kenneth_Writer posted...
zebatov posted...
In other words they're ultra uptight. I've even been modded for saying something that isn't even debatable.

I didn't issue the heads up to you.

From what I saw, you're far more likely to just get modded for being yourself, and you made many posts that could have been reported in the occasional posting I did in the same areas as you.

As such, it would just fall on deaf ears to even attempt to tell you.

I don't understand what you're saying. You weren't talking to me? From what you saw where? What "areas"? Tell me what?

What a vague post.
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_AdjI_
12/15/18 4:19:01 PM
#65:


LinkPizza posted...
I am pretty impatient. But I get busy often. And dont really have time to do much sometimes. I work nearly everyday. I only get Sundays off. And thats only if I dont work on base. So, yeah. I like to be able to play games pretty quickly.


So... start the downloads on one of the other days and let it download while you're at work and couldn't ply anyway? Start the download you want on Sunday morning before you eat breakfast/shower/do chores so it's ready by the time you're done? Downloading is a very passive thing, usually. Once you get it rolling, you don't have to do anything with it until it's done, so it's very easy to work it into doing other things, if you plan ahead.

LinkPizza posted...
I said for me(basically meaning like personal, or my personal opinion), I wish it would go away. But am ok with it since it works well for others. Thats the message I was trying to convey.


If you're okay with it, then there's no reason to wish it would go away.

zebatov posted...
Thanks. I'm surprised I had to ask twice tbh. Feel like I'm talking to every girl ever.


Apologies, I misunderstood and thought you were wondering about how FE could be worked into a Warriors game.

xjayguyx posted...
Lol to the guy defending digital over physical ^


The best you've done so far is say that you can't resell it, which I personally don't consider to be an issue because I don't sell my games, so I'm not sure you're quite in a strong enough position to act like that. Step it up, dude.
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zebatov
12/15/18 4:20:42 PM
#66:


_AdjI_ posted...
zebatov posted...
Thanks. I'm surprised I had to ask twice tbh. Feel like I'm talking to every girl ever.


Apologies, I misunderstood and thought you were wondering about how FE could be worked into a Warriors game.

That's alright. I like the cross-series Warriors games. They should do more.
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_AdjI_
12/15/18 4:24:03 PM
#67:


The only one I've played is Hyrule Warriors, but it was a good time. I'm interested in FE Warriors, but haven't gotten around to picking it up yet.
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 4:25:38 PM
#68:


I actually bring it with me to work to play. Or lunch and breaks. So, I cant do that. And thats if Im even home on Sundays. I bring it with me a lot. Im usually off work, but I will go places. Like to meet my BF. And I bring it to play when hes not around or just when I wanna play.

I still dont like it. Not gonna actually wish it away. Utnif ot were gone, I wouldnt be sad. And Id probably be a little happy about it...

I jut dont like digital. And I never will. Id rather stick with physical.
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 4:27:23 PM
#69:


zebatov posted...
_AdjI_ posted...
zebatov posted...
Thanks. I'm surprised I had to ask twice tbh. Feel like I'm talking to every girl ever.


Apologies, I misunderstood and thought you were wondering about how FE could be worked into a Warriors game.

That's alright. I like the cross-series Warriors games. They should do more.

Yeah. On the different cross-warriors games, people were talking about other ones they could do a while ago. I like Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem Warriors. Both very fun games...
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_AdjI_
12/15/18 4:31:46 PM
#70:


LinkPizza posted...
I actually bring it with me to work to play. Or lunch and breaks. So, I cant do that.


That still sounds like there's plenty of downtime in which to let things download. Again, it takes some planning, but it's quite doable.
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zebatov
12/15/18 4:37:06 PM
#71:


LinkPizza posted...
I actually bring it with me to work to play. Or lunch and breaks. So, I cant do that.

How long does the battery last?
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 4:37:12 PM
#72:


_AdjI_ posted...
LinkPizza posted...
I actually bring it with me to work to play. Or lunch and breaks. So, I cant do that.


That still sounds like there's plenty of downtime in which to let things download. Again, it takes some planning, but it's quite doable.

Well, its kind of hard without internet, though.
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_AdjI_
12/15/18 4:46:31 PM
#73:


zebatov posted...
How long does the battery last?


Typically 3-5 hours, depending on the game. You can charge it with any USB C charger, though, so it's not too hard to charge it.

LinkPizza posted...
Well, its kind of hard without internet, though.


That does complicate matters.
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 4:48:51 PM
#74:


_AdjI_ posted...
zebatov posted...
How long does the battery last?


Typically 3-5 hours, depending on the game. You can charge it with any USB C charger, though, so it's not too hard to charge it.

LinkPizza posted...
Well, its kind of hard without internet, though.


That does complicate matters.

Its true that you can charge it with other chargers. But it seems to take a little longer than it does with the 5200 charger it comes with...
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zebatov
12/15/18 4:52:53 PM
#75:


_AdjI_ posted...
zebatov posted...
How long does the battery last?


Typically 3-5 hours, depending on the game. You can charge it with any USB C charger, though, so it's not too hard to charge it.

I had a ten foot USB-C cable that I left at someone's house. Would be pretty handy to get it back soon.
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peanutt121
12/15/18 5:10:37 PM
#76:


Kind of how konami and Sony forced PT to stop working even if you had it installed already.


I probably should know this but my head just won't wrap around it right now, plus I suck at game abbreviations anyway. What is this mysterious "PT" you're referencing?
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 5:12:07 PM
#77:


peanutt121 posted...
Kind of how konami and Sony forced PT to stop working even if you had it installed already.


I probably should know this but my head just won't wrap around it right now, plus I suck at game abbreviations anyway. What is this mysterious "PT" you're referencing?

Silent Hill P.T.

I believe PT stands for playable teaser...
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peanutt121
12/15/18 5:14:29 PM
#78:


Thanks, no wonder I couldn't get it. I don't do demos so it won't affect me then I guess.
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 5:21:16 PM
#79:


_AdjI_ posted...
LinkPizza posted...
I am pretty impatient. But I get busy often. And dont really have time to do much sometimes. I work nearly everyday. I only get Sundays off. And thats only if I dont work on base. So, yeah. I like to be able to play games pretty quickly.


So... start the downloads on one of the other days and let it download while you're at work and couldn't ply anyway? Start the download you want on Sunday morning before you eat breakfast/shower/do chores so it's ready by the time you're done? Downloading is a very passive thing, usually. Once you get it rolling, you don't have to do anything with it until it's done, so it's very easy to work it into doing other things, if you plan ahead.

LinkPizza posted...
I said for me(basically meaning like personal, or my personal opinion), I wish it would go away. But am ok with it since it works well for others. Thats the message I was trying to convey.


If you're okay with it, then there's no reason to wish it would go away.

zebatov posted...
Thanks. I'm surprised I had to ask twice tbh. Feel like I'm talking to every girl ever.


Apologies, I misunderstood and thought you were wondering about how FE could be worked into a Warriors game.

xjayguyx posted...
Lol to the guy defending digital over physical ^


The best you've done so far is say that you can't resell it, which I personally don't consider to be an issue because I don't sell my games, so I'm not sure you're quite in a strong enough position to act like that. Step it up, dude.


My physical game collection is worth over 20k USD, maybe over 25k. If all my games were digital the only value I'd have is the systems. That's a LOT of money loss if digital.. that's a huge factor.

Next would be making money ( yes 90% or more of the time modern games lose value ) but all my retro stuff went way up over the years. Lots of modern CE games went up though like Breath of the wild Master Edition for example.

Physical you can trade. To stores or friends.

Lending is better for physical. So long as you lend to a good friend. Being an adult I don't have issues lending to other adults.

I'm sure there is more reasons but the $ value reasons are enough of a reason.

Oh add storage, Physical is usually better in this regard.

Also add that with physical it's always mine to use, with digital the servers to re download will go down one day and you lost the game.

Thought of more reasons, you can buy physical used so cheaper. Also sales can be better on physical. Most cases cheaper physical over digital.

I'll think of more reasons probs ;)
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 5:33:02 PM
#80:


Lending games is also a good reasons. When I went home, I could let my brother use my MK8D but still play my own games.
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 5:38:35 PM
#81:


Look at the backlash Microsoft got when the Xbox one was announced to be digital only.. like how can you defend digital? It's just bad in so many ways..

It does have some positives I guess, like space. But if you can't afford a large place to live I'm guessing you can't afford to have a physical video game collection anyways. And lazy reasons like not having to go to the store, wait for shipping and such.
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 5:50:06 PM
#82:


xjayguyx posted...
Look at the backlash Microsoft got when the Xbox one was announced to be digital only.. like how can you defend digital? It's just bad in so many ways..

It does have some positives I guess, like space. But if you can't afford a large place to live I'm guessing you can't afford to have a physical video game collection anyways. And lazy reasons like not having to go to the store, wait for shipping and such.

I never seem to have trouble with space for my games, to be honest... Haha. I guess it depends on how you display it, though. If you display it...
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SunWuKung420
12/15/18 5:51:17 PM
#83:


A lot of hobbies have steep pricetags.
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Krazy_Kirby
12/15/18 5:52:09 PM
#84:


xjayguyx posted...
Look at the backlash Microsoft got when the Xbox one was announced to be digital only.. like how can you defend digital? It's just bad in so many ways..

It does have some positives I guess, like space. But if you can't afford a large place to live I'm guessing you can't afford to have a physical video game collection anyways. And lazy reasons like not having to go to the store, wait for shipping and such.


if your games get destroyed/stolen you have to re-buy everything. not so with digital
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 5:53:05 PM
#85:


LinkPizza posted...
xjayguyx posted...
Look at the backlash Microsoft got when the Xbox one was announced to be digital only.. like how can you defend digital? It's just bad in so many ways..

It does have some positives I guess, like space. But if you can't afford a large place to live I'm guessing you can't afford to have a physical video game collection anyways. And lazy reasons like not having to go to the store, wait for shipping and such.

I never seem to have trouble with space for my games, to be honest... Haha. I guess it depends on how you display it, though. If you display it...


I display them in bookshelfs. I have a dedicated room in the house for my gaming collection and figures/resins. Physical collections do take up a lot of space if they are large collections. I have just under 1000 physical games. No shovel ware junk.
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 5:54:19 PM
#86:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
xjayguyx posted...
Look at the backlash Microsoft got when the Xbox one was announced to be digital only.. like how can you defend digital? It's just bad in so many ways..

It does have some positives I guess, like space. But if you can't afford a large place to live I'm guessing you can't afford to have a physical video game collection anyways. And lazy reasons like not having to go to the store, wait for shipping and such.


if your games get destroyed/stolen you have to re-buy everything. not so with digital


Insurance helps yes. I have a safe for more top value stuff like hyper Duel on Saturn, sealed games and such. About 25% of the value of my collection is in a safe. It's all insured and we'll documented.
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Krazy_Kirby
12/15/18 5:55:52 PM
#87:


"insurance"

and with digital you just redownload for free
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 5:56:27 PM
#88:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
and with digital you just redownload for free


What about in 10 years + time when the download service is gone?

Additionally, at some point Nintendo hasn't put an exact date on it yet you also won't be able to re-download previously purchased Wii and Virtual Console games or the Wii System Transfer Tool to move files to the Wii U. Nintendo recommends that if you have games you want to download or content you want to move to ...Sep 29, 2017
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 5:57:25 PM
#89:


Value reasons alone are enough to go physical, all other reasons are just gravy.
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supness420
12/15/18 6:06:22 PM
#91:


zebatov posted...
supness420 posted...
No, I know exactly what you are whining about. It is not debatable.

@supness420
What am I "whining" about?


Pretty much anything you can, I see it a lot.
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_AdjI_
12/15/18 6:12:13 PM
#92:


As I said, I don't really plan on selling anything. Lending's a point, but that's why I tend not to go for digital for anything I might end up lending to a friend. More saliently, where I don't have any friends with a Switch, being able to lend those games isn't as big of a deal (though, that said, the only retail-available Switch games I've got in digital are MHGU and Smash, for the aforementioned convenience reasons). Most of my digital library is on PC, where stuff isn't really available physically, but also where stuff is cheap enough to not need to lend, and things like Steam Family Sharing (or just sharing an account) do actually allow for digital games to be lent.
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Krazy_Kirby
12/15/18 6:24:28 PM
#93:


xjayguyx posted...
Value reasons alone are enough to go physical, all other reasons are just gravy.


and when digital is cheaper?
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 6:26:06 PM
#94:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
xjayguyx posted...
Value reasons alone are enough to go physical, all other reasons are just gravy.


and when digital is cheaper?

Bu the time digital is cheaper, I usually already have the game...
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 6:30:49 PM
#95:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
xjayguyx posted...
Value reasons alone are enough to go physical, all other reasons are just gravy.


and when digital is cheaper?


Okay digital say $20 and physical $30. You can still sell that $30 for $20 when done and save $10. Just an example.

Or that $30 might be a niche title and go up in value to say $40 or $50 and you're up $. Limited run games for example.
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Krazy_Kirby
12/15/18 6:33:59 PM
#96:


i don't resell games
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zebatov
12/15/18 6:36:50 PM
#97:


supness420 posted...
zebatov posted...
supness420 posted...
No, I know exactly what you are whining about. It is not debatable.

@supness420
What am I "whining" about?


Pretty much anything you can, I see it a lot.

I haven't whined about anything and if you can't cite the specific thing you say you know then you're wrong yet again.

To clarify: You're wrong that mods aren't debatable (this is extremely common knowledge) and you have no idea what I was talking about when I said one mod I took was for a statement that is not debatable.

Check my sig if you're still confused.
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 6:37:44 PM
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Krazy_Kirby posted...
i don't resell games


Good for you, I generally don't either but I do sometimes when I don't want the game anymore and I can still get decent $ for it. Or a game gets rare and goes up in value I'll sell it for a profit and put that towards new games. I also trade with people locally and friends. Moving my games around at good times to do so just helps me get more new games to play. You can't do that with digital.
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Krazy_Kirby
12/15/18 6:42:27 PM
#99:


you can gameshare with digital
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xjayguyx
12/15/18 6:43:55 PM
#100:


Krazy_Kirby posted...
you can gameshare with digital


Meh. On all platforms?
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LinkPizza
12/15/18 6:45:16 PM
#101:


xjayguyx posted...
Krazy_Kirby posted...
you can gameshare with digital


Meh. On all platforms?

I dont think it is... Maybe PC and Xbox...
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Krazy_Kirby
12/15/18 6:46:00 PM
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idk about switch, but you can with pc/ps4/xbox
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