Board 8 > Should Big Boss really be represented as Naked Snake?

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Logience
11/12/18 8:30:00 PM
#1:


Title - Results (15 votes)
Yes
53.33% (8 votes)
8
No
46.67% (7 votes)
7
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pjbasis
11/12/18 9:07:27 PM
#2:


When he's a playable character that's how he's portrayed.

Most people who want to nominate him imagine that portrayal.
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Kenri
11/12/18 9:18:58 PM
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Both are fine.
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Lightning Strikes
11/13/18 5:08:07 AM
#4:


pjbasis posted...
When he's a playable character that's how he's portrayed.

Most people who want to nominate him imagine that portrayal.


Naked Snake is only in 3. Big Boss is playable in another four games after that too you know.

Anyway, my general rule with Big Boss is if it has an eyepatch it's fair game. Early MGS3 Naked Snake is not really recognisable as Big Boss at all.
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Nanis23
11/13/18 5:17:04 AM
#5:


As someone that never played MGS I can't understand why people cry about this
Is it like if Phoenix got a Hobonix picture or something?
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MarquessLaus
11/13/18 5:50:00 AM
#6:


Lightning Strikes posted...
pjbasis posted...
When he's a playable character that's how he's portrayed.

Most people who want to nominate him imagine that portrayal.


Naked Snake is only in 3. Big Boss is playable in another four games after that too you know.

Anyway, my general rule with Big Boss is if it has an eyepatch it's fair game. Early MGS3 Naked Snake is not really recognisable as Big Boss at all.

He's still Naked Snake in Portable Ops.
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hombad46
11/13/18 6:20:55 AM
#7:


Nanis23 posted...
As someone that never played MGS I can't understand why people cry about this
Is it like if Phoenix got a Hobonix picture or something?

Big Bosss most popular appearance is as the main character of MGS3, otherwise known as Naked Snake. The picture used for him here is from when hes much older
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Nanis23
11/13/18 6:26:07 AM
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So it's more like if we got Hector from Fire Emblem 7 but instead he had a picture from Fire Emblem 6?
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Vlado
11/13/18 7:44:53 AM
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Yes, it's kind of odd to use a picture of the character from a game where he is a supporting character rather than all the games where he is the main character.
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hombad46
11/13/18 7:54:28 AM
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Yeah, so the question becomes should the picture used be from his most prominent appearance, or from the majority of his appearances, in which he is a supporting character? Personally, I think we could compromise and go with his Ground Zeroes appearance, which is recent, prominent, and different enough from Solid Snake that he shouldn't get votes just for looking like him.

https://www.justpushstart.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/2367051-mgsvgz_ss_demo_001-890x606.jpg
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SeabassDebeste
11/13/18 7:56:27 AM
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mgs3 is the defining game with big boss as the main character, to me
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Lightning Strikes
11/13/18 9:43:55 AM
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MGS3 is my favourite MGS by a long distance. It's also just one game and the lowest selling numbered game in the series to boot. And he doesn't even get called "Big Boss" until the very end. It's a bit like saying that MGS4 Old Snake should be the only Solid Snake used. Big Boss should be given a fair representation of the character.
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Vlado
11/13/18 9:49:29 AM
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Lightning Strikes posted...
MGS3 is my favourite MGS by a long distance. It's also just one game and the lowest selling numbered game in the series to boot. And he doesn't even get called "Big Boss" until the very end. It's a bit like saying that MGS4 Old Snake should be the only Solid Snake used. Big Boss should be given a fair representation of the character.

lmfao, imagine trying to cook up some roundabout logic about why Big Boss shouldn't have a normal picture used to hide the simple fact you want him to lose this match.
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hombad46
11/13/18 9:49:50 AM
#14:


Lightning Strikes posted...
MGS3 is my favourite MGS by a long distance. It's also just one game and the lowest selling numbered game in the series to boot. And he doesn't even get called "Big Boss" until the very end. It's a bit like saying that MGS4 Old Snake should be the only Solid Snake used. Big Boss should be given a fair representation of the character.


Well there's also Peace Walker and Portable Ops. I think it's perfectly fair to give him an appearance fitting his playable appearances instead of just his appearances as a side character. And I still say Ground Zeroes is the way to go as it's different enough from Solid Snake.
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_Harmonica_
11/13/18 10:14:27 AM
#15:


I doubt it makes much of a difference, if anything his last appearance as a playable character is closer to the current match pic than it is to Naked Snake. It's not like it's Shinkawa art, he's not unrecognizable. Basically

Kenri posted...
Both are fine.
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Lightning Strikes
11/13/18 1:32:09 PM
#16:


Vlado posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
MGS3 is my favourite MGS by a long distance. It's also just one game and the lowest selling numbered game in the series to boot. And he doesn't even get called "Big Boss" until the very end. It's a bit like saying that MGS4 Old Snake should be the only Solid Snake used. Big Boss should be given a fair representation of the character.

lmfao, imagine trying to cook up some roundabout logic about why Big Boss shouldn't have a normal picture used to hide the simple fact you want him to lose this match.


I voted for Big Boss lol, and have stated elsewhere that this is an expected performance him (~49% on Sora) that kind of questions the relevance of the old man pic.

hombad46 posted...
Lightning Strikes posted...
MGS3 is my favourite MGS by a long distance. It's also just one game and the lowest selling numbered game in the series to boot. And he doesn't even get called "Big Boss" until the very end. It's a bit like saying that MGS4 Old Snake should be the only Solid Snake used. Big Boss should be given a fair representation of the character.


Well there's also Peace Walker and Portable Ops. I think it's perfectly fair to give him an appearance fitting his playable appearances instead of just his appearances as a side character. And I still say Ground Zeroes is the way to go as it's different enough from Solid Snake.


I can't really recall PO but PW isn't Naked Snake. IIRC he just goes by Big Boss or plain "Snake" for most of the game, though they do call him "Vic Snake" at one point which is... silly. His design in that game is pretty distinctive from the 3 design, though it did always strike me as kind of funny that he looks so different between PW and GZ given that the two are set like a month apart.

I agree that Ground Zeroes is the best way to go. But I think they are all good if they are easily identifiable as Big Boss.
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XIII_rocks
11/13/18 2:36:58 PM
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Should be in his Ground Zeroes form

That's the best compromise imo
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snake_5036
11/13/18 2:41:11 PM
#18:


XIII_rocks posted...
Should be in his Ground Zeroes form

That's the best compromise imo

this is what I was thinking

but then this board will probably complain that it's MGSV and a picture from that game would unfairly hurt big boss or something
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