Current Events > A little boy likes pink? He must be gay/transgender!

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Or he must like pink and will eventually grow up to change their interest.

Saw an episode of Dr. Phil where a couple had some hands off parenting. Let the kid choose. Kid liked dresses and pink. Hey he is trans.
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Why did you leave out dresses from the topic title?
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That's not important
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LastTomorrow posted...

That's not important

It's much more important than mentioning he likes a colour
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Because I forgot until I got to the body of the topic
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That's not how it works lol.
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Or maybe, just maybe, these people know their kid on a deeper level than some random dude watching Dr. Phil and it's about much more than simply liking pink
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kimberly was my favorite power ranger as a kid and she wore pink
but i am gay
also adam the second black ranger was the sexiest ranger
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My nephew likes pink.
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LastTomorrow posted...

Because I forgot until I got to the body of the topic

Why'd you have to lie then my man?
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refmon posted...

LastTomorrow posted...

Because I forgot until I got to the body of the topic

Why'd you have to lie then my man?

Let it go
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LastTomorrow posted...

refmon posted...

LastTomorrow posted...

Because I forgot until I got to the body of the topic

Why'd you have to lie then my man?

Let it go

Probably irritated him that you pointed out his mistake, therefore he got defensive.

I do the same thing. Most probably do.
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I don't get the issue.

Who the fuck cares? Who the fuck has time to go around checking on and worrying about what the fuck kids are wearing? Why do people give a shit?

The only men that can make pink look good are from the Hart family.
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I liked playing a Barbie computer game when I was like 6 and I didn't grow up to be transgender or gay
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Dash_Harber posted...

I don't get the issue.

Who the fuck cares? Who the fuck has time to go around checking on and worrying about what the fuck kids are wearing? Why do people give a shit?

Other peoples kids, or your own? Aside from feigning progressiveness, it might be a little cause for concern if your son wants to prance around in dresses lol.

If my son was into wearing dresses, I'm not sure that I'd be super into it. But maybe I'm just a backwater, white trash hillbilly lol

Other people's kids are whatever.
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Pink was once manly color. Okay salmon was but that was pink.
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Dyinglegacy posted...

Other peoples kids, or your own? Aside from feigning progressiveness, it might be a little cause for concern if your son wants to prance around in dresses lol.

Kids also eat dirt and shit their pants, who the fuck cares?

Dyinglegacy posted...

If my son was into wearing dresses, I'm not sure that I'd be super into it. But maybe I'm just a backwater, white trash hillbilly lol

Other people's kids are whatever.

Yeah, I don't even think I'd care if it was my son. I mean, there are way more important things. Fashion is so arbitrary and changing. Why the hell try and measure a person by it?

Dash_Harber posted...

Kids also eat dirt and s*** their pants, who the f*** cares?

I mean, I care about mine and what he does. Wouldn't be into him eating dirt and shitting his pants (Now that we are out of the diaper phase), either lol

Dash_Harber posted...

Yeah, I don't even think I'd care if it was my son. I mean, there are way more important things. Fashion is so arbitrary and changing. Why the hell try and measure a person by it?

For one, child bullies can be the epitome of cruelity.

Attire is not that important in the grand scale of things, but as ignorant as it may sound, I just would prefer that he looks like a boy. I won't disown him either way, tho.
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Kindergarten teacher straight up told my parents at conferences that she was concerned I might be gay because I liked to stick around in the kitchen during play time.

Dad and I had a good laugh about that when he told me a few years back.
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Dyinglegacy posted...

I mean, I care about mine and what he does. Wouldn't be into him eating dirt and shitting his pants (Now that we are out of the diaper phase), either lol

My point is that maybe we shouldn't give a fuck about kid's judgement and random decisions because they mean practically nothing until they mature enough to deal with them anyway.

Dyinglegacy posted...

For one, child bullies can be the epitome of cruelity.

Attire is not that important in the grand scale of things, but as ignorant as it may sound, I just would prefer that he looks like a boy. I won't disown him either way, tho.

Honestly, teaching a child that there are people out there who are going to hurt them and they should try to hide who they are and not stand up for themselves by blending in is just the most depressing thing I've ever heard. I'd rather teach them to be strong as who they are.

COVxy posted...

That's not how it works lol.

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Dyinglegacy posted...

For one, child bullies can be the epitome of cruelity.

Tbqh teaching your kids to stop doing the stuff they like in order to avoid being bullied is a pretty terrible approach. I haven't quite worked out how I'll handle it if my kid starts getting bullied, but I definitely won't make it out to be his fault
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>Be me at work
>Mom comes in with son to get him a toy
>Watch as son goes for a basket full of plastic fruit
>Mom puts it away, saying that's a girl toy

I've always been taught that males need food as well. I guess things have changed.
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Bloodychess posted...

Kindergarten teacher straight up told my parents at conferences that she was concerned I might be gay because I liked to stick around in the kitchen during play time.

Dad and I had a good laugh about that when he told me a few years back.

Are you a gay chef now?

Kids go through phases. Unless they're hurting themselves, someone else, or animals, or have the potential to (like playing with matches, lighters), I say just let them grow at their own pace.
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Dash_Harber posted...

My point is that maybe we shouldn't give a f*** about kid's judgement and random decisions because they mean practically nothing until they mature enough to deal with them anyway.

Within reason, I could agree. Like, animal torture at an early age? Cause for concern. A boy wanting a cute purple dinosaur face paint tattoo from one of those booths they have at park, or whatever (like my son did)? No biggie.

Dash_Harber posted...

Honestly, teaching a child that there are people out there who are going to hurt them and they should try to hide who they are and not stand up for themselves by blending in is just the most depressing thing I've ever heard. I'd rather teach them to be strong as who they are.

This can be a double edged sword, and not work out well. Depending on the circumstance, that is. In an ideal world, I couldn't agree more. In an ideal world, the issue of bulling would never rear it's ugly head, anyway.

You have little control over how other parents raise their kids, and some are practically bred to be bullies.

Some people just aren't built for the "this is who I am, deal with it!" personality.

I got bullied the shit out of for having a paralyzed dad. He had a stroke when I was 7 that left him an invalid. Kids gave me hell for it. My attitude and self acceptance of it didn't do shit to stop it, and it hurt like hell. I kinda wish I could have hid it.
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Dyinglegacy posted...

Within reason, I could agree. Like, animal torture at an early age? Cause for concern. A boy wanting a cute purple dinosaur face paint tattoo from one of those booths they have at park, or whatever (like my son did)? No biggie.

Obviously, I'm not talking about when they actively endanger others. We are talking about fashion, here. No one is going to drop dead if a little boy wears a pink dress.

Dyinglegacy posted...

This can be a double edged sword, and not work out well. Depending on the circumstance, that is. In an ideal world, I couldn't agree more. In an ideal world, the issue of bulling would never rear it's ugly head, anyway.

You have little control over how other parents raise their kids, and some a practically bred to be bullies.

Some people just aren't built for the "this is who I am, deal with it!" personality.

I got bullied the shit out of for having a paralyzed dad. He had a stroke when I was 7 that left him an invalid. Kids gave me hell for it. My attitude and self acceptance of it didn't do shit to stop it, and it hurt like hell. I kinda wish I could have hid it.

I'm not saying it will stop bullies. You can't stop bullies. Realistically, though, if you teach kids to be manipulated in order to hide from them, they are just continuing a cycle that will cause bullying to continue. I didn't say 'ignore them and they will go away'. What I'm saying is that it's more important to teach kids to be strong, self-confident, and comfortable with who they are, so that when they have to deal with those people, they will be better equipped to do so.

Telling them to hide who they are is telling them to be afraid and ashamed and they are still going to get bullied anyway. It has nothing to do with an ideal world. Even in our world, it's better they be who they are and learn to be strong and confident, than they hide who they are and are miserable from both that and the bullying.

That's now this works. That's not how any of this works!
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eston posted...

Tbqh teaching your kids to stop doing the stuff they like in order to avoid being bullied is a pretty terrible approach. I haven't quite worked out how I'll handle it if my kid starts getting bullied, but I definitely won't make it out to be his fault

Of course, I wouldn't blame him for getting bullied. That's on the bully.
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Too. Many. Quotes.
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The most important thing is I want to teach mine to not be a bully.

Of course, stand up to bullies. Some things are low hanging fruit, and easy pickings for bullies, like having a wheelchair bound dad.

Like, what defense does a 7-9 year old have against kids laughing at you for something like that?
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Dyinglegacy posted...

The most important thing is I want to teach mine to not be a bully.

Of course, stand up to bullies. Some things are low hanging fruit, and easy pickings for bullies, like having a wheelchair bound dad.

Like, what defense does a 7-9 year old have against kids laughing at you for something like that?

Honestly, I'm not sure what that has to do with what we are talking about. Yeah, it sucks, but it doesn't really change what we were talking about.

Basically, I feel like if you ask your child to change who they are or what they want or how they feel to stop them from being targeted for bullying, you are just perpetuating a cycle of bullying that will inevitably lead to worse self-esteem issues in the future. I'd rather teach my child how to be who they are and survive than to tell them to hide who they are so they can blend in and live in fear of those who would abuse them.

LastTomorrow posted...

Saw an episode of Dr. Phil where a couple had some hands off parenting.

dr. phil isn't even allowed to practice anymore
the man promoted bum fights (do not google)
he's basically Jerry Spring but less fights and more taking advantage of people to get money
most likely the people on the show were paid actors as is the case with most of his people

I like how my daugter can like pink or black or wonder woman or batman and theres nothing suggestive to her lifestyle about it.
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hotcegaI posted...

LastTomorrow posted...

Saw an episode of Dr. Phil where a couple had some hands off parenting.

dr. phil isn't even allowed to practice anymore
the man promoted bum fights (do not google)
he's basically Jerry Spring but less fights and more taking advantage of people to get money
most likely the people on the show were paid actors as is the case with most of his people

IIRC, the rumors were that he was an abusive husband, who forced his wife to lift to grow her bust, banned her from leaving home, slept with a patient who he then employed, and basically was an all around scumbag. I believe he had his license revoked for the whole patient thing.

Did you know pink used to be the colour for boys and blue for girls?
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Pink is a cool color and I'm not ashamed to wear a pink shirt from time to time. There's nothing wrong with a boy liking pink.
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Couldn't care less TC.

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Dash_Harber posted...

Honestly, I'm not sure what that has to do with what we are talking about. Yeah, it sucks, but it doesn't really change what we were talking about.

Just the subject of bullying, and I wanted to share.

Dash_Harber posted...

Basically, I feel like if you ask your child to change who they are or what they want or how they feel to stop them from being targeted for bullying, you are just perpetuating a cycle of bullying that will inevitably lead to worse self-esteem issues in the future. I'd rather teach my child how to be who they are and survive than to tell them to hide who they are so they can blend in and live in fear of those who would abuse them.

I can agree, to an extent.

I think a lot of people hide who they are, or at least parts of who they are. Of course, you shouldn't have to hide the real you, within reason as there are exceptions to most things.

There are some instances in which it would be appropriate to hide who you are, probably permantly. The key to knowing if you should or shouldn't hide it is, does it harm anything? A boy wearing a neon pink dress with fofo stuff all over it? Different/odd, yes, but probably not a danger, unless you're around passing cars at night lol. In this unharmful context, I can absolutely agree with you.

I still can't say that I'd be cool with my son doing it, tho lol. And that just might be a personal issue, we all have them, that id need to work on. Ultimately, if that's what he insisted on, I'd just have to get over it.
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MakoReizei posted...

I liked playing a Barbie computer game when I was like 6 and I didn't grow up to be transgender or gay

But you grow up to be lolicon

Like I said, from the beginning, I'm not talking about the child endangering themselves or others, just things that don't matter like the described scenario. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I don't think there is any point to hiding who you are unless your life is in danger. I don't want to teach my hypothetical children how to be better victims. Hell, the only thing that is making this stuff 'odd/different' is because people arbitrarily decided so and now they want to bully people into their unreasonable ' norms'.