Current Events > Hollow Knight. Is it really THAT good?

(+) Yeah! (+)

I hear it's a crazy good game and only costs $15.00!
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yeah its an impressive piece of work

It's pretty good yeah. I wouldn't consider it a masterpiece by any means but it's an excellent side scrolling metroidvania/souls type game.

If you liked Rogue Legacy or Dead Cells, you'll love Hollow Knight.
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It's a superb game. It being one of the best probably depends on what aspects of the gameplay you like.

Well worth the full price, but it's on sale at 30% off on a regular basis if you want to pay less.
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I consider it on the same level as SotN and in some aspects better.
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I like Mega Man and Super Meat Boy and Shovel Knight. Wonder if I'll dig it.
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yeah, it has a lot in common with mega man

only 1-2 sections are comparable to super meat boy but they exist
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best metroidvania since SOTN
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Yes.
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SrRd_RacinG posted...

only costs $15.00!

https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly

you have 1 hour and 30 mins as of this post.
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It's amazing, but pretty challenging too. People who don't like hard games probably won't enjoy it as much.
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I thought it was phenomenal and it was insane how much content was packed in. The game is absolutely massive. The graphics and music were great. The only flaw I would say is probably the beginning 5 hours? They're kind of a slog. So much of a slog that I actually gave up on playing it thinking nothing else would happen and the power ups were garbage. But damn once you make it past that you really get rewarded. I'm pretty glad I gave it a second shot and regret giving up so early. But then again I thought it would be a short game. IT IS NOT.
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I like punishment aka Nioh and Dark Souls.
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one of the best metroidvanias i've played. up there with SM and SotN
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SrRd_RacinG posted...

I like punishment aka Nioh and Dark Souls.

You'll probably love Hollow Knight then, it's often referred to as a 2D Dark Souls.
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Rainbow_Dashing posted...

I thought it was phenomenal and it was insane how much content was packed in. The game is absolutely massive. The graphics and music were great. The only flaw I would say is probably the beginning 5 hours? They're kind of a slog. So much of a slog that I actually gave up on playing it thinking nothing else would happen and the power ups were garbage. But damn once you make it past that you really get rewarded. I'm pretty glad I gave it a second shot and regret giving up so early. But then again I thought it would be a short game. IT IS NOT.

yeah, once you get the mantis leap power the game opens up in a delightful way.
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my friend gave me a code for it but I definitely would've paid the full price for the game
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Do you like backtracking a lot?
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Bapanada
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Forlorn_Ass posted...

Do you like backtracking a lot?

Yes I'm cool with that.

Any puzzles?
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Its excellent
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SrRd_RacinG posted...

Forlorn_Ass posted...

Do you like backtracking a lot?

Yes I'm cool with that.

Any puzzles?

It's like Metroid for snes but melee.
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I never played a Metroid game or Castlevania game.
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Pretty great game. The art direction is stunningly detailed, the characters are charming, and the world is massive and fun to explore. Only real negative is that some of the bosses and lategame challenges take things one step too far with the trollolol challenges. On a personal level, I felt the tone of the game world was pretty one-note, quiet and somber throughout (with the exception of Deepnest's creepiness); games like Super Metroid and Symphony of the Night mixed up the tone of the regions to have a nicer mix of upbeat, somber, dreadful, intense, etc.
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masterpug53 posted...

some of the bosses and lategame challenges take things one step too far

I respectfully disagree with this point. The late game bosses were my absolute favorite part of the game, similar to the optional bosses in Rogue Legacy. It really puts your personal skill to the test.

I suppose FWIW, I consider a trolololl challenge to be more like the 100 Super Jump challenge in Super Mario RPG.
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DoGCyN posted...

masterpug53 posted...

some of the bosses and lategame challenges take things one step too far

I respectfully disagree with this point. The late game bosses were my absolute favorite part of the game, similar to the optional bosses in Rogue Legacy. It really puts your personal skill to the test.

I suppose FWIW, I consider a trolololl challenge to be more like the 100 Super Jump challenge in Super Mario RPG.

perhaps he means path of pain/gods
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Darkman124 posted...

DoGCyN posted...

masterpug53 posted...

some of the bosses and lategame challenges take things one step too far

I respectfully disagree with this point. The late game bosses were my absolute favorite part of the game, similar to the optional bosses in Rogue Legacy. It really puts your personal skill to the test.

I suppose FWIW, I consider a trolololl challenge to be more like the 100 Super Jump challenge in Super Mario RPG.

perhaps he means path of pain/gods

Oh...
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AsucaHayashi posted...

SrRd_RacinG posted...

only costs $15.00!

https://www.humblebundle.com/monthly

you have 1 hour and 30 mins as of this post.

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Darkman124 posted...

DoGCyN posted...

masterpug53 posted...

some of the bosses and lategame challenges take things one step too far

I respectfully disagree with this point. The late game bosses were my absolute favorite part of the game, similar to the optional bosses in Rogue Legacy. It really puts your personal skill to the test.

I suppose FWIW, I consider a trolololl challenge to be more like the 100 Super Jump challenge in Super Mario RPG.

perhaps he means path of pain/gods

No, I mean plenty about the game other than those things. I had to actually look up what the Path of Pain was, since I never found it on my own yet kept hearing about it. I guess that's another mark against Hollow Knight: in a genre were people are constantly complaining about secrets hidden behind unmarked breakable walls and other obtuse techniques, Hollow Knight cranks it to 11 by hiding some very unique content behind random breakable walls.

The first inkling I got that the game would end up being a troll game was the Soul Master fight. Challenging, but fair and well-paced, enough so that I just barely beat him on the first try and felt really good about it...until 'Bwahaha you're not done yet expectations subverted BLAM BLAM BLAM yer ded.' Many bosses that came after were tough but fair, but too many of them (mostly found in the game's bizarre overabundance of bouncy monsters) just threw one too many things at you at once, and ended up being far more frustrating than fun, to the point where my enthusiasm to continue with the game dried up and I put it down right before the ending.
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masterpug53 posted...

(mostly found in the game's bizarre overabundance of bouncy monsters

i have no clue which boss you are even talking about
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Darkman124 posted...

masterpug53 posted...

(mostly found in the game's bizarre overabundance of bouncy monsters

i have no clue which boss you are even talking about

I wouldn't write a thesis on it, but off the top of my head, Watcher Knights bounce (annoying as hell), the spirit boss in the Queen's Garden bounces almost exclusively, God Tamer's mount bounces (annoying as fuck). Dung Defender's attacks also heavily involve bouncing, but he's in the tough-but-fair category (plus it's hard not to be a bro with the guy). I feel like I'm missing a couple more examples, and that's just the bosses.
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watcher knights are best dealt with via late game gear and die really fast. without it they are admittedly very hard.

marmu was super easy, idk what to tell you

god tamer, no argument i guess, but you only need to do fool trial for the hunter's mark.
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About an hour in. Fought false knight..

I like it so far.
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masterpug53 posted...

Darkman124 posted...

DoGCyN posted...

masterpug53 posted...

some of the bosses and lategame challenges take things one step too far

I respectfully disagree with this point. The late game bosses were my absolute favorite part of the game, similar to the optional bosses in Rogue Legacy. It really puts your personal skill to the test.

I suppose FWIW, I consider a trolololl challenge to be more like the 100 Super Jump challenge in Super Mario RPG.

perhaps he means path of pain/gods

No, I mean plenty about the game other than those things. I had to actually look up what the Path of Pain was, since I never found it on my own yet kept hearing about it. I guess that's another mark against Hollow Knight: in a genre were people are constantly complaining about secrets hidden behind unmarked breakable walls and other obtuse techniques, Hollow Knight cranks it to 11 by hiding some very unique content behind random breakable walls.

The first inkling I got that the game would end up being a troll game was the Soul Master fight. Challenging, but fair and well-paced, enough so that I just barely beat him on the first try and felt really good about it...until 'Bwahaha you're not done yet expectations subverted BLAM BLAM BLAM yer ded.' Many bosses that came after were tough but fair, but too many of them (mostly found in the game's bizarre overabundance of bouncy monsters) just threw one too many things at you at once, and ended up being far more frustrating than fun, to the point where my enthusiasm to continue with the game dried up and I put it down right before the ending.

I think every boss in the game is totally fair. I'd recommend trying again some time. As someone already said, the late game bosses are really enjoyable fights. Plus, there's only one other boss you didn't list that bounces. The boss battles that are generally the top rated don't feature any bouncing.
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lmfao
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No
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I think every boss in the game is totally fair. I'd recommend trying again some time. As someone already said, the late game bosses are really enjoyable fights. Plus, there's only one other boss you didn't list that bounces. The boss battles that are generally the top rated don't feature any bouncing.

tbh i would fight lost kin over and over again if i could
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Darkman124 posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

I think every boss in the game is totally fair. I'd recommend trying again some time. As someone already said, the late game bosses are really enjoyable fights. Plus, there's only one other boss you didn't list that bounces. The boss battles that are generally the top rated don't feature any bouncing.

tbh i would fight lost kin over and over again if i could

Well you can. Have you played Godmaster yet?
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Putting it on the same level as SotN imo is misleading but it is very good.
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GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Well you can. Have you played Godmaster yet?

yes, though i let myself get bogged down by the actual focus of it rather than the free combats
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Darkman124 posted...

GeneralKenobi85 posted...

Well you can. Have you played Godmaster yet?

yes, though i let myself get bogged down by the actual focus of it rather than the free combats

You should try out the Hall of Gods. I think it's the more enjoyable part the update compared to the pantheons.
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i have--got the idea that the main focus was to do the highest difficulty setting, discovered it was 1 mask, and got frustrated

going back and trying the mid-level difficulty, i am finding that it's a lot of fun!
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ultimate reaver posted...

best metroidvania since SOTN

As someone who thinks SotN is the worst 2D Castlevania since SotN (other than HoD), I disagree with this, it's a lot better than SotN
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Conflict posted...

Giblet_Enjoyer posted...

SotN is the worst 2D Castlevania since SotN

wat

I'm including itself in that, of course
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No.

Not only is it a great game, it's a work of art. Seriously, the game is just gorgeous in a dark, really somber way.
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