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papercup
10/26/18 5:14:25 PM
#101:


Banjo-Kazooie trademark was renewed last month.
https://trademarks.justia.com/752/97/banjo-75297133.html

Nintendo employee at London Comic-con has a Grinch folder
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9rntyw/spotted_a_certain_someone_at_nintendos_london/

lol

Redditor recreated the mural.
https://www.reddit.com/r/smashbros/comments/9rnsf6/a_recreation_and_analysis_of_the_leaked_mural/

Man. This fucking thing won't die.
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Revelation34
10/26/18 6:27:43 PM
#102:


Geno is so out of place if that's real.
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LinkPizza
10/26/18 9:20:05 PM
#103:


Revelation34 posted...
Geno is so out of place if that's real.

Really? I don't see why, tbh... He seems like he'd fit very well. More than some other characters, I would think...
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Revelation34
10/27/18 12:22:08 AM
#104:


LinkPizza posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Geno is so out of place if that's real.

Really? I don't see why, tbh... He seems like he'd fit very well. More than some other characters, I would think...


Because he hasn't been relevant for like 25 years and was in only one game.
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Zeus
10/27/18 1:02:15 AM
#105:


Revelation34 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Geno is so out of place if that's real.

Really? I don't see why, tbh... He seems like he'd fit very well. More than some other characters, I would think...


Because he hasn't been relevant for like 25 years and was in only one game.


Same was more or less true of Pit (who only had 2 games) but he got into Brawl.
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EnvyFox
10/27/18 1:31:05 AM
#106:


Zeus posted...
Revelation34 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Geno is so out of place if that's real.

Really? I don't see why, tbh... He seems like he'd fit very well. More than some other characters, I would think...


Because he hasn't been relevant for like 25 years and was in only one game.


Same was more or less true of Pit (who only had 2 games) but he got into Brawl.

Let's not forget the Ice Climbers, who also only got one game yet still made the cut for Melee (before the e-Reader cards, NES Classic series on GBA, being an unlockable on Animal Crossing and the Wii Virtual Console).
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Greenfox111
10/27/18 3:37:30 AM
#107:


LinkPizza posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Geno is so out of place if that's real.

Really? I don't see why, tbh... He seems like he'd fit very well. More than some other characters, I would think...

yeah like more than chorus kid
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LinkPizza
10/27/18 10:56:57 AM
#108:


EnvyFox posted...
Zeus posted...
Revelation34 posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Revelation34 posted...
Geno is so out of place if that's real.

Really? I don't see why, tbh... He seems like he'd fit very well. More than some other characters, I would think...


Because he hasn't been relevant for like 25 years and was in only one game.


Same was more or less true of Pit (who only had 2 games) but he got into Brawl.

Let's not forget the Ice Climbers, who also only got one game yet still made the cut for Melee (before the e-Reader cards, NES Classic series on GBA, being an unlockable on Animal Crossing and the Wii Virtual Console).

I think R.O.B. may have only had like 2 games, as well... And Duck Hunt only had one (though does make cameo appearances in other games)...Did Little Mac have a good number of games?
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green dragon
10/27/18 11:10:55 AM
#109:


LinkPizza posted...
Little Mac have a good number of games

little mac had 3 or 4:

punch out- nes
super punch out- snes (there's some debate as to whether or not that's actually little mac)
punch out!!!-wii

and I believe there was an arcade game

I like how nintendo tries to diversify the roster though. the games wouldn't be as fun if only a few series showed up.
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papercup
10/27/18 2:42:28 PM
#110:


So, one of the more credible "leakers" over the past several months has been a GFAQs user named Vergeben. He got a lot right, like "Everyone is here!" and the Belmonts. He also got a lot wrong, like saying "No new DK character" then K. Rool was announced. And he never accurately predicted a single echo fighter. He's been pushing the inclusion of Incineroar for quite some time.

https://segmentnext.com/2018/10/26/super-smash-bros-ultimate-roster-incineroar/

Now he's saying Incineroar isn't on the banner because he could be DLC. Possible... but it's also possible that he and other supposed leakers and insiders pushing Incineroar so hard could be because they actually HAVE seen proof of incieroar, but with no context assumed it was a fighter. Could also be a pokeball pokemon.

Either way, every day the Grinch banner seems to get more and more credible. Nintendo social media partners completely ignoring it, the Grinch materials in the leak are now being seen around Europe, no definite killing blow has been dealt to the leak after 4 days. I know I keep going back and forth on this thing. But it could be the real deal.
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Blighboy
10/27/18 2:43:51 PM
#111:


Vergeben is full of shit who has maybe half the information and then makes up the rest based on inferences. I trust him less than the banner leak.
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LinkPizza
10/27/18 2:49:22 PM
#112:


What if the Grinch got in?
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papercup
10/27/18 2:52:37 PM
#113:


LinkPizza posted...
What if the Grinch got in?


lol If only
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papercup
10/27/18 6:42:24 PM
#114:


Turns out the page with the banner had more banners on it.

https://imgur.com/P7guSOL

Why would a faker print it multiple times?
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papercup
10/28/18 6:37:38 PM
#115:


ACXCCyt

Make of this what you will. Left is the banner on the website immediately after Isabelle was revealed. Right is the Grinch banner. The theory goes that the September Direct was delayed so they could remove Isaac's reveal from the video since it was immediately after a large earthquake in Japan. In addition to this, Sakurai recently made a statement about "have to change things" or something to that effect in that Direct.
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papercup
10/28/18 7:36:24 PM
#116:


https://smashboards.com/attachments/grinch-proof-jpg.173050/

...There's a single green pixel on Little Mac's shoes that's not there in other banners.

Nintendo. WTF.

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Zeus
10/28/18 10:53:28 PM
#117:


papercup posted...
Turns out the page with the banner had more banners on it.

https://imgur.com/P7guSOL

Why would a faker print it multiple times?


To make it more credible? Kinda the same reason why they put effort into the fake.
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papercup
10/30/18 11:41:43 AM
#118:


40 minute Smash Bros. Direct on Thursday morning

https://twitter.com/NintendoAmerica/status/1057270899957776384

We'll know for sure in 2 days if it's real or fake.
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LeetCheet
10/30/18 6:45:13 PM
#119:


Yes finally we'll get to know of this leak was real or not. Can't wait.
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papercup
10/31/18 9:17:23 AM
#120:


I have no idea what to believe anymore.
The Grinch has a ton of evidence going for it (remember, nobody would be talking about this thing if just the banner leaked, and none of the details surrounding it were known. The banner itself isn't what makes it believable, it's everything else)
And the supposed Insiders can't agree on what the truth is.
Vergeben says Incineroar is in, and Isaac is an assist trophy
Mystic says Isaac and Geno are in, but the leak is fake and the real roster is even better. somehow.
Emily Rodgers says Almost everyone on the banner is an assist trophy
ZHuge says Shadow is an assist trophy
PapaGenos says The banner is 100% true

So who the fuck knows what's going on.

Edit: And of course nobody provides a single shred of evidence for what they're saying.
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VixYW
10/31/18 1:19:51 PM
#121:


papercup posted...
And of course nobody provides a single shred of evidence for what they're saying.

Of course they don't, this is huge advertise for the game, even if it's unintentional.
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GMArcturus
11/01/18 2:26:43 AM
#122:


I've come around and I kinda want Sora from Kingdom Hearts to show up at this point. He could have an echo of either Riku or Roxas. Kairi could join him and have an echo of Aqua or Xion.
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LinkPizza
11/01/18 2:33:06 AM
#123:


I was just playing "The World Ends with You" and in the background, I saw the Smash symbol. I guess Neku's in...
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papercup
11/01/18 8:41:19 AM
#125:


quigonzel posted...
The Grinch? From a folder a guy has?

Man, that's reaching a bit, isn't it?


I don't think it means anything, it was just a funny coincidence somebody noticed.
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Blighboy
11/01/18 10:04:28 AM
#126:


Leak is fake.

Disappointed but not surprised.
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Blighboy
11/01/18 10:08:12 AM
#127:


And Incineroar has a vB counter
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Blighboy
11/01/18 10:12:06 AM
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SpeedDemon20
11/01/18 10:35:15 AM
#129:


Piranha Plant from outta nowhere!
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Blighboy
11/01/18 10:36:48 AM
#130:


Oh my fucking god

I couldn't stop laughing

But seriously

Fuck that character choice
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SpeedDemon20
11/01/18 10:42:17 AM
#131:


God Damn. Super Thanos wiped out 99% of the universe. Kirby is our only hope.
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TheSlinja
11/01/18 10:43:29 AM
#132:


man I was super down untill that amazing adventure mode reveal

those last 3 char reveals were SUPER lackluster, Piranna plant WHO ASKED FOR THIS
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TheSlinja
11/01/18 10:50:58 AM
#133:


imagine the incentive to preorder the new smash being fucking piranha plant
laaaaaame
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Blighboy
11/01/18 10:54:34 AM
#134:


TheSlinja posted...
imagine the incentive to preorder the new smash being fucking piranha plant
laaaaaame

I can't wait to preorder the rest of the DLC without knowing what it is.
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TheSlinja
11/01/18 10:56:30 AM
#135:


all in all though it was all worth it for captain falcon getting dusted mid hop into his car, that whole seen was pretty great
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VixYW
11/01/18 10:58:11 AM
#136:


LinkPizza posted...
I was just playing "The World Ends with You" and in the background, I saw the Smash symbol. I guess Neku's in...

I wish...
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GanglyKhan
11/01/18 11:08:56 AM
#137:


SpeedDemon20 posted...
Piranha Plant from outta nowhere!

I won't come to terms with this until I play it. It's hilariously underwhelming but I love it all the same.
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papercup
11/01/18 11:42:11 AM
#138:


I'm not even mad. This past week all the rampant speculation and theorizing was fun. It's disappointing, but maybe we'll get Geno as DLC. Also, Piranha Plant XD
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papercup
11/01/18 11:44:19 AM
#139:


Shadow being an assist trophy is whatever, who cares. He's a clone of a D list character.

I'm VERY surprised Isaac is an assist trophy again. I don't personally care about him, but he's one of the most requested characters in Smash history, and he would be my brother's favorite newcomer for sure.
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Blighboy
11/01/18 11:48:44 AM
#140:


papercup posted...
Shadow being an assist trophy is whatever, who cares. He's a clone of a D list character.

I'm VERY surprised Isaac is an assist trophy again. I don't personally care about him, but he's one of the most requested characters in Smash history, and he would be my brother's favorite newcomer for sure.

He's only the most requested because K Rool and Ridley got in this time. He might make it in 6 if his popularity hasn't faded. His presence means they're at least aware of him (much like Ridley in Brawl and 4) but he's not a priority.

I also have no idea what Japan wants for Smash. I know K Rool was huge over there but Ridley was a no name. Apparently they like Dragon Quest. I wouldn't be surprised to see one of the dragon questers as DLC.
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Zeus
11/01/18 11:48:47 AM
#141:


Predictably underwhelming.
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Blighboy
11/01/18 11:50:08 AM
#142:


Zeus posted...
Predictably underwhelming.

I dont think anyone predicted Spirits being sticker + events and I'll eat my hat if someone predicted the fucking plant.

If you're talking in more general terms yeah, Nintendo doesn't know how to hype and anyone who thought we were getting five more characters was kidding themselves.
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LinkPizza
11/01/18 11:50:21 AM
#143:


Who are all the new characters? Couldn't watch the direct.
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Blighboy
11/01/18 11:51:25 AM
#144:


LinkPizza posted...
Who are all the new characters? Couldn't watch the direct.

Ken. Incineroar. Pirahna Plant as DLC. Five additional DLC characters and stages over the next year.
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LinkPizza
11/01/18 11:53:32 AM
#145:


Blighboy posted...
LinkPizza posted...
Who are all the new characters? Couldn't watch the direct.

Ken. Incineroar. Pirahna Plant as DLC. Five additional DLC characters and stages over the next year.

Thanks!

Also, I guess some other people were sorta right. I mean, I don't think any of them guessed the plant, but still...
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papercup
11/01/18 12:09:08 PM
#146:


Geno is a spirit....
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LinkPizza
11/01/18 12:12:58 PM
#147:


Also, what's this spirit thing?
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papercup
11/01/18 12:14:20 PM
#148:


It's a mix between stickers and event matches. You fight a simulated battle of a character, then you get their spirit sticker, and you give it to one of your fighters to change and augment their abilities. You can also give spirits to your spirits.
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LinkPizza
11/01/18 12:19:28 PM
#149:


papercup posted...
It's a mix between stickers and event matches. You fight a simulated battle of a character, then you get their spirit sticker, and you give it to one of your fighters to change and augment their abilities. You can also give spirits to your spirits.

Thanks!

I'm excited for the game.
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Blighboy
11/01/18 12:25:38 PM
#150:


Both Midna and Skull Kid are ATs and we aren't getting echoes as DLC so no Hilda either.

So that's most of the good new Zelda reps off the table.

Why must Zelds be stuck with three links and captain falcon forever.
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