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Darmik
10/24/18 1:20:45 AM
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https://twitter.com/ZachStafford/status/1054834775913984000

Well that's pretty fucking weird in 2018 lol
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Darmik
10/24/18 1:23:36 AM
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Godnorgosh posted...
Yeah, old news. Sexuality, AIDS, none of it even gets mentioned. I would have been fine with Malek, but Cohen still had the right idea imo. Pretty sorry excuse for a biopic.


Wait seriously? Not even his AIDS? Wtf.
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Nidhoggr
10/24/18 1:24:02 AM
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Uh that's a good thing. Freddie Mercury never wanted his sexuality to be his identity. He wanted it to be his music.
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iClockwork
10/24/18 1:24:07 AM
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Freddie Mercury's sexuality doesn't fit in a movie about his greatest musical achievements.
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pegusus123456
10/24/18 1:24:57 AM
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A lot of comments are saying that's how Freddie Mercury himself would answer questions like that.

I know fuck-all about the dude though, so maybe they're all independently lying?
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DrizztLink
10/24/18 1:25:36 AM
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I could see not mentioning his sexuality because he didn't care. but glossing over his fucking AIDS?!
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Darmik
10/24/18 1:29:55 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
Uh that's a good thing. Freddie Mercury never wanted his sexuality to be his identity. He wanted it to be his music.


This movie is a biopic. Not a music video.

What's the point of a biopic if it ignores a large part of his personal life?

pegusus123456 posted...
A lot of comments are saying that's how Freddie Mercury himself would answer questions like that.

I know fuck-all about the dude though, so maybe they're all independently lying?


He would awkwardly umm and uhh over the question and try to dodge it?
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Freddie_Mercury
10/24/18 1:30:16 AM
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pegusus123456 posted...
A lot of comments are saying that's how Freddie Mercury himself would answer questions like that.

I know fuck-all about the dude though, so maybe they're all independently lying?


that's how he was. he hated the bad press they got during their earlier years and never defined his sexuality. he didn't even announce his illness until the day before he died

it's kinda disgusting how people are spinning this
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Nidhoggr
10/24/18 1:31:05 AM
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Oh I see, so we're making this about gays and not Freddie Mercury. Why am I surprised.
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Darmik
10/24/18 1:31:58 AM
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What if we made a PG-13 biopic of the Rolling Stones that doesn't have any sex or drugs?

Apparently people just wanna see how they uhh wrote a song I guess?
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DarkTransient
10/24/18 1:33:02 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
Uh that's a good thing. Freddie Mercury never wanted his sexuality to be his identity. He wanted it to be his music.


That's a very good position to take, but that doesn't mean they can't at least briefly mention it. And how he died sounds pretty damn relevant to a biopic, even if his sexuality isn't.
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Darmik
10/24/18 1:33:14 AM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
A lot of comments are saying that's how Freddie Mercury himself would answer questions like that.

I know fuck-all about the dude though, so maybe they're all independently lying?


that's how he was. he hated the bad press they got during their earlier years and never defined his sexuality. he didn't even announce his illness until the day before he died

it's kinda disgusting how people are spinning this


Total shame how we're stuck with a movie that doesn't reference any of that side of him huh
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Nidhoggr
10/24/18 1:36:14 AM
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You're not fooling anyone TC, just come out and say what you want to say.
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sktgamer_13dude
10/24/18 1:41:16 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
You're not fooling anyone TC, just come out and say what you want to say.

You first.
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Darmik
10/24/18 1:42:01 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
You're not fooling anyone TC, just come out and say what you want to say.


What's that?

That a biopic that skips over someone's hardships and relationships is ultimately pointless? If you're not interested in that you're just watching an actor cosplay as somebody famous.
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Doom_Art
10/24/18 1:42:19 AM
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I don't see why it's so weird to expect a biopic to address someone's sexuality and the way they fucking died
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Freddie_Mercury
10/24/18 1:43:19 AM
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Darmik posted...
Freddie_Mercury posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
A lot of comments are saying that's how Freddie Mercury himself would answer questions like that.

I know fuck-all about the dude though, so maybe they're all independently lying?


that's how he was. he hated the bad press they got during their earlier years and never defined his sexuality. he didn't even announce his illness until the day before he died

it's kinda disgusting how people are spinning this


Total shame how we're stuck with a movie that doesn't reference any of that side of him huh


I'll tell you when I see it instead of getting outraged at a clip of rami malek respecting freddie mercury's opinion of himself
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Darmik
10/24/18 1:47:03 AM
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Freddie_Mercury posted...
I'll tell you when I see it instead of getting outraged at a clip of rami malek respecting freddie mercury's opinion of himself


I don't blame Rami for the shitty situation the movie put him in
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Bio1590
10/24/18 1:51:01 AM
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Hasn't it basically been acknowledged that this movie ended up as the shitty version the remaining members of Queen wanted as opposed to the actual biopic of Mercury that Sasha Baren Cohen wanted to do?
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Darmik
10/24/18 1:53:12 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
Hasn't it basically been acknowledged that this movie ended up as the shitty version the remaining members of Queen wanted as opposed to the actual biopic of Mercury that Sasha Baren Cohen wanted to do?


That's the story I heard.

The usual suspects won't acknowledge that though.
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loafy013
10/24/18 1:54:12 AM
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Hey, remember when Mercury announced to the world he had AIDS months before he died and openly talked about it?

Oh, wait, that never happened and he played it close to his chest until the final days.
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10/24/18 1:54:32 AM
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Darmik
10/24/18 1:56:01 AM
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loafy013 posted...
Hey, remember when Mercury announced to the world he had AIDS months before he died and openly talked about it?

Oh, wait, that never happened and he played it close to his chest until the final days.


I'm sorry. I wasn't aware that this movie was based on press releases. I thought biopics were about what happened behind the scenes.
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Bio1590
10/24/18 1:59:01 AM
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its inexplicably perverse that the movie retcons Mercurys HIV diagnosis as the bands motivation for Live Aid a concert that took place two years before the singer is believed to have been diagnosed.


lmao wow
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Smashingpmkns
10/24/18 1:59:06 AM
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Uh the new trailer heavily focuses on his sexuality. I just saw it before watching Halloween. They even have a reporter asking him about his sexuality. Then it goes into him not having much time left, most likely due to AIDS. I call BS.
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bevan306
10/24/18 2:02:28 AM
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Bio1590 posted...
its inexplicably perverse that the movie retcons Mercurys HIV diagnosis as the bands motivation for Live Aid a concert that took place two years before the singer is believed to have been diagnosed.


lmao wow


I just read that review, it sounds trash
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Darmik
10/24/18 2:04:26 AM
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The best part about the weird defence force for this is that the reviews are already out and they stink. For the most predicable reasons.

Smashingpmkns posted...
Uh the new trailer heavily focuses on his sexuality. I just saw it before watching Halloween. They even have a reporter asking him about his sexuality. Then it goes into him not having much time left, most likely due to AIDS. I call BS.


I think that's about as deep as it gets according to the reviews I've read. Just the odd winks, nods and names.
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Nidhoggr
10/24/18 2:07:00 AM
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Darmik posted...
The best part about the weird defence force for this is that the reviews are already out and they stink. For the most predicable reasons.


IMDb = 8.6/10
IGN Entertainment = 7.3/10
Google users = 93% liked this movie

Hmmm
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Smashingpmkns
10/24/18 2:07:05 AM
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Darmik posted...
The best part about the weird defence force for this is that the reviews are already out and the stink. For the most predicable reasons.

Smashingpmkns posted...
Uh the new trailer heavily focuses on his sexuality. I just saw it before watching Halloween. They even have a reporter asking him about his sexuality. Then it goes into him not having much time left, most likely due to AIDS. I call BS.


I think that's about as deep as it gets according to the reviews I've read. Just the odd winks, nods and names.


I think that's all that really needs to be said honestly. I mean he was pretty flamboyant but he was always pretty secretive about his sexuality and personal life. If this were a movie about Liberachi or something that would make sense to put more emphasis on his sexuality.
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Kineth
10/24/18 2:19:27 AM
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Seems pretty irrelevant to the story about his music.
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Darmik
10/24/18 2:31:14 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
Darmik posted...
The best part about the weird defence force for this is that the reviews are already out and they stink. For the most predicable reasons.


IMDb = 8.6/10
IGN Entertainment = 7.3/10
Google users = 93% liked this movie

Hmmm


https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/bohemian_rhapsody/

Rotten.

Smashingpmkns posted...
I think that's all that really needs to be said honestly. I mean he was pretty flamboyant but he was always pretty secretive about his sexuality and personal life. If this were a movie about Liberachi or something that would make sense to put more emphasis on his sexuality.


Biopics are about personal lives. What's the point if they aren't? Why watch an actor sing Queen songs inbetween scenes of shallow bullshit?

How someone's success impacts their personal lives and relationships is about as basic as a biopic gets.
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Axiom
10/24/18 2:36:00 AM
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Darmik posted...
How someone's success impacts their personal lives and relationships is about as basic as a biopic gets.

This is true. In fact the most interesting part of this Biopic would have been his dealing with his sexuality and keeping it under wraps. It makes me not even want to watch the movie
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Nidhoggr
10/24/18 2:54:30 AM
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So what would you do TC? Put in tons of gay sex scenes and have an hour long scene of Freddie Mercury crying about his AIDS? Yeah what a good movie that would be /s
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DarkTransient
10/24/18 2:56:07 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
So what would you do TC? Put in tons of gay sex scenes and have an hour long scene of Freddie Mercury crying about his AIDS? Yeah what a good movie that would be /s


What if I told you there are options between those two extremes, for example, mentioning it but not dwelling on it (at least the gay part; I think the AIDS part needs to at least get a bit of discussion given that it's, y'kno, how he died).
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Nidhoggr
10/24/18 2:57:20 AM
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DarkTransient posted...
What if I told you there are options between those two extremes, for example, mentioning it but not dwelling on it

But that's exactly what they did and people are saying it's not enough.
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DarkTransient
10/24/18 2:59:01 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
DarkTransient posted...
What if I told you there are options between those two extremes, for example, mentioning it but not dwelling on it

But that's exactly what they did and people are saying it's not enough.


Oh, it is? I got a different impression from this topic and what I've heard in the past. If that's the case, nevermind, fair next etc.
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WaterLink
10/24/18 3:03:53 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
So what would you do TC? Put in tons of gay sex scenes and have an hour long scene of Freddie Mercury crying about his AIDS? Yeah what a good movie that would be /s

I love how you go straight to how they need to have a bunch of graphic sex scenes. Lol I dont think anyone's asking for that, but idk maybe portraying his secret life and his attempts to keep it hidden as well as his friendships and dealing with success etc could all be portrayed. It doesnt have to be gratuitous sex scenes to drive the point home but they could at least address it and how he battled to keep it hidden all the time.
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DrizztLink
10/24/18 3:14:38 AM
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Darmik posted...
The usual suspects won't acknowledge that though.

God damn that Keyser Sze.
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Darmik
10/24/18 3:31:03 AM
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Nidhoggr posted...
DarkTransient posted...
What if I told you there are options between those two extremes, for example, mentioning it but not dwelling on it

But that's exactly what they did and people are saying it's not enough.


That's not what the reviews say at all.

Apparently the guy he had a long term relationship is referenced in one cheesy joke and that's it.
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Lord_Wombat
10/24/18 4:05:53 AM
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@Nidhoggr posted...
Uh that's a good thing. Freddie Mercury never wanted his sexuality to be his identity. He wanted it to be his music.

Fair enough, but in his particular case its something that 100% should be in a story about his life.

I'm not saying it's what the movie should have been about, but to completely ignore it is asinine imo.
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Anime_Killer17
10/24/18 4:13:16 AM
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I can kind of understand why they did it, but I don't agree with it. Yes, he was a private person about his personal life which makes it hard to get any possible personal scenes accurate, but cmon, show the fact that he was gay. Reference his lifestyle. Show that he had AIDS and then show the fact that he was so private about his life. There's no reason to change a persons personality/life for what is supposed to be essentially a biography of his life.
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Irony
10/24/18 4:15:41 AM
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This is a biopic. His sexuality may not have been his identity, but it played a part in his contraction of AIDS which resulted in his death.
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slimfizzle2
10/24/18 4:29:54 AM
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Darmik posted...
Bio1590 posted...
Hasn't it basically been acknowledged that this movie ended up as the shitty version the remaining members of Queen wanted as opposed to the actual biopic of Mercury that Sasha Baren Cohen wanted to do?


That's the story I heard.

The usual suspects won't acknowledge that though.

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FrisbeeDude
10/24/18 9:42:20 AM
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Irony posted...
This is a biopic. His sexuality may not have been his identity, but it played a part in his contraction of AIDS which resulted in his death.


This. They have a right to not discuss it, it just then becomes something other than a biopic. The NWA movie "Straight Outta Compton" had the same issue.
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spudger
10/24/18 9:43:27 AM
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Darmik posted...
https://twitter.com/ZachStafford/status/1054834775913984000

Well that's pretty fucking weird in 2018 lol

Yea thats weak
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happibivouac
10/24/18 9:46:44 AM
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So gays are just their sexuality and have no personality whatsoever. Got it.

Seriously I'd rather see a doc about him without getting into his sexual exploits. Everyone knows the man was gay, it's common knowledge. It's not something they need to slather on in the film. You want your diversity but you want your characters to be so one dimensional in what makes them them. Freddy wasn't just gay, he was a talented music legend. The sexuality of someone shouldn't be the forefront. If the most interesting thing about you is what sex organ you're attracted to, then you aren't interesting.
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YookaLaylee
10/24/18 9:50:25 AM
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Anime_Killer17 posted...
I can kind of understand why they did it, but I don't agree with it. Yes, he was a private person about his personal life which makes it hard to get any possible personal scenes accurate, but cmon, show the fact that he was gay. Reference his lifestyle. Show that he had AIDS and then show the fact that he was so private about his life. There's no reason to change a persons personality/life for what is supposed to be essentially a biography of his life.

He wasnt gay though. He was bi
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