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cjsdowg
10/06/18 9:37:14 PM
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he police officer who fatally shot 12-year-old Tamir Rice in Cleveland four years ago was recently hired by a police department in eastern Ohio, CNN affiliate WTOV-TV reported, citing the department's police chief.

Timothy Loehmann is one of six new officers hired in the Village of Bellaire, about 65 miles southwest of Pittsburgh. The town on the Ohio River has a population of about 4,170.
Bellaire Police Chief Richard "Dick" Flanagan told WTOV that Loehmann applied to several police departments and still wanted to be a police officer.

"He's not quitting on being a police officer. He made a decision (in 2014) that's going to stay with him the rest of his life," Flanagan said. "Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."

CNN's efforts to reach Flanagan during the weekend were not successful.
Rice family attorney Subodh Chandra said on Twitter that Tamir's mother, Samaria Rice, feels that "Loehmann doesn't belong on any police force anywhere & shouldn't be foisted upon the citizenry anywhere."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/06/us/timothy-loehmann-tamir-rice-ohio/index.html

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This guy lied about what happen. Throw around Tamir's sister, bullied his mother , lied on his application to be a police officer, was literally deemed unfit to be a cop. And he gets a new job. Even if you are someone who supports him gunned down a child. Everything else that I listed should disqualify him.
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spudger
10/06/18 9:38:25 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
someone's got to give you a second chance

interesting. we dont give 2nd chances to molesting 12 yr olds, but murdering them we do?
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UnfairRepresent
10/06/18 9:38:45 PM
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cjsdowg posted...
"Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."

Daww what a nice guy.
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VipaGTS
10/06/18 9:39:25 PM
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Fuckin disgusting.
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Bananana
10/06/18 9:39:29 PM
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Disgusting.
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Southernfatman
10/06/18 9:39:44 PM
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Bet that guy wouldn't be pulling that "second chance" crap for a guy who killed a cop.
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Blue_Inigo
10/06/18 9:41:50 PM
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Fuck the police
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UnfairRepresent
10/06/18 9:42:55 PM
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spudger posted...
cjsdowg posted...
someone's got to give you a second chance

interesting. we dont give 2nd chances to molesting 12 yr olds, but murdering them we do?

What a silly post
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RiKuToTheMiGhtY
10/06/18 9:43:20 PM
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Justice is not always served, but no one is stopping a citizen from serving it.
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codey
10/06/18 9:43:23 PM
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Why would that guy even want to still be a cop? If I fucked my job up so bad that I killed a 12 year old I could never go back to doing that.
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Tyranthraxus
10/06/18 9:44:41 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
cjsdowg posted...
"Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."

Daww what a nice guy.

Where is Tamir Rice's second chance?
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UnfairRepresent
10/06/18 9:47:08 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
cjsdowg posted...
"Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."

Daww what a nice guy.

Where is Tamir Rice's second chance?

Wut.

If Tamir was alive who on Earth wouldn't offer him one?
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_Goggalor_
10/06/18 9:49:13 PM
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Good for him.
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Shinobi120
10/06/18 9:50:28 PM
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Just like I said, America is a joke.
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UnfairRepresent
10/07/18 4:44:47 PM
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M_Live posted...
How the fuck does he get rehired? Nah he should be permanently barred this is disgusting

Sounds like the new Chief saw something in him.

And I guess in a town that small, it's all you need
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Tyranthraxus
10/07/18 6:18:07 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
cjsdowg posted...
"Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."

Daww what a nice guy.

Where is Tamir Rice's second chance?

Wut.

If Tamir was alive who on Earth wouldn't offer him one?

So he didn't get a second chance?
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UnfairRepresent
10/07/18 6:21:07 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
cjsdowg posted...
"Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."

Daww what a nice guy.

Where is Tamir Rice's second chance?

Wut.

If Tamir was alive who on Earth wouldn't offer him one?

So he didn't get a second chance?

Well no because he is dead
If this cop was dead he wouldn't have got one either
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Tyranthraxus
10/07/18 6:22:32 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
cjsdowg posted...
"Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."

Daww what a nice guy.

Where is Tamir Rice's second chance?

Wut.

If Tamir was alive who on Earth wouldn't offer him one?

So he didn't get a second chance?

Well no because he is dead
If this cop was dead he wouldn't have got one either

Seems unfair
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St0rmFury
10/07/18 10:57:01 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
cjsdowg posted...
"Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."

Daww what a nice guy.

Where is Tamir Rice's second chance?

Wut.

If Tamir was alive who on Earth wouldn't offer him one?

So he didn't get a second chance?

He didn't even get a first chance...
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hockeybub89
10/07/18 11:03:31 PM
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Prison sounds a lot different than documentaties led me to believe. I didn't know it was exactly like being hired as a cop in small town Ohio.
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ExtremeLuchador
10/07/18 11:41:58 PM
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Bellaire, OH eh? All he'll have to do is chase shoplifters and take away pot from teenagers.
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gunplagirl
10/07/18 11:45:57 PM
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"Like anybody else, if you make a mistake, someone's got to give you a second chance, give someone opportunity. There is no worry, I stand behind this officer ... I'll stand behind this officer like I will any of my officers."


The dead don't get a second chance. And the police try their hardest to make sure that even the not guilty end up punished. What's more, they do so in a system that will forever hold a conviction against people. So of course the only part that's being truthful is that the chief will always support this officers, no matter what fucked up, unethical or illegal things they end up doing.
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TheMikh
10/07/18 11:50:47 PM
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ohio living up to its reputation as florida of the north
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Delirious_Beard
10/07/18 11:52:01 PM
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what an embarrassment
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darkprince45
10/07/18 11:52:42 PM
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Wasnt he in a park pointing a fake gun at people
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King_Hellebuyck
10/07/18 11:53:09 PM
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_Goggalor_ posted...
Good for him.

The fuck?!
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Delirious_Beard
10/07/18 11:56:56 PM
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King_Hellebuyck posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Good for him.

The fuck?!


it's goggalor
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ultimate reaver
10/07/18 11:57:31 PM
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shooting a kid to death is a pretty big mistake. Putting a gun back in his hand and giving him an opportunity to do something all over again is a pretty big one too, but that's mainly stemming from the fact that he's moving from one good ol' boys club to another
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darkprince45
10/07/18 11:59:24 PM
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"Receiving a police dispatch call of a black male that "keeps pulling a gun out of his pants and pointing it at people"

officers reported that upon their arrival, they both continuously yelled "show me your hands" through the open patrol car window.

Loehmann further claimed that instead of showing his hands, it appeared as if Rice was trying to draw"

Shitty situation but with all these factors combined..yeah
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St0rmFury
10/08/18 12:02:50 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
"Receiving a police dispatch call of a black male that "keeps pulling a gun out of his pants and pointing it at people"

officers reported that upon their arrival, they both continuously yelled "show me your hands" through the open patrol car window.

Loehmann further claimed that instead of showing his hands, it appeared as if Rice was trying to draw"

Shitty situation but with all these factors combined..yeah

Um... no. Did you watched the video of the shooting?

The cops basically drove up right next to Tamir and started firing.
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gunplagirl
10/08/18 12:04:04 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
"Receiving a police dispatch call of a black male that "keeps pulling a gun out of his pants and pointing it at people"

officers reported that upon their arrival, they both continuously yelled "show me your hands" through the open patrol car window.

Loehmann further claimed that instead of showing his hands, it appeared as if Rice was trying to draw"

Shitty situation but with all these factors combined..yeah

Our resident expert in bacon protocol defending cops. Must be a day that ends in -y.
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omega cookie
10/08/18 12:04:33 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
"Receiving a police dispatch call of a black male that "keeps pulling a gun out of his pants and pointing it at people"

officers reported that upon their arrival, they both continuously yelled "show me your hands" through the open patrol car window.

Loehmann further claimed that instead of showing his hands, it appeared as if Rice was trying to draw"

Shitty situation but with all these factors combined..yeah

Don't bother. Not worth it.
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Kineth
10/08/18 12:05:08 AM
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Look at that, we have some pieces of shit defending coldblooded murder.
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darkprince45
10/08/18 12:11:09 AM
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I like how I'm just being named called instead of anyone actually going after the points I made.

With all those points being made it articulates deadly force
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Kineth
10/08/18 12:11:58 AM
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You're not a detective, stfu.
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bkkorps
10/08/18 12:14:10 AM
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darkprince45 posted...
officers reported that upon their arrival, they both continuously yelled "show me your hands" through the open patrol car window.


I am not sure they could have completed that sentence in the amount of time they were at the scene before they killed him. they didnt even put the damn police car in park before killing him.
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darkprince45
10/08/18 12:17:33 AM
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Darth-Bastard posted...
so what youre saying TC is

we should execute those who commit any crime

Nobody is saying that. You got a call about a person pointing a gun at people in the park. Verbal commands were issued and he didnt listen and started reaching for it. What else are you supposed to do? Let him shoot you? Should the officer wait, get shot and then say okay I can shoot now?

Whether gun is real or not is not a debate
Nobody knows if it's real or not. Its perceived to be a real weapon
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darkprince45
10/08/18 12:19:01 AM
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You also dont go below a person's level of force. If they're using deadly force, you dont respond with oc spray. You match It or go above it. Verbal commands didnt work. Taser, oc, and baton would have not been sufficient options
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darkprince45
10/08/18 12:26:03 AM
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Darth-Bastard posted...
darkprince45 posted...
Darth-Bastard posted...
so what youre saying TC is

we should execute those who commit any crime

Nobody is saying that. You got a call about a person pointing a gun at people in the park. Verbal commands were issued and he didnt listen and started reaching for it. What else are you supposed to do? Let him shoot you? Should the officer wait, get shot and then say okay I can shoot now?

Whether gun is real or not is not a debate
Nobody knows if it's real or not. Its perceived to be a real weapon


so what youre saying is

this should be an executable crime

I mean you're purposely saying is a no effort troll attempt

Theres facts and circumstances every case is different than any other. Saying executable crime really is just a bait enticing word you're purposely using to sensationalize it.

Knowing the information that was given how would you have handled it?
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tremain07
10/08/18 12:26:29 AM
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you know what, he's right, let's give that dallas cop who murdered a man in his own home a second chance,too. I mean mistakes happen but why dwell on the past?

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darkprince45
10/08/18 12:29:03 AM
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tremain07 posted...
you know what, he's right, let's give that dallas cop who murdered a man in his own home a second chance,too. I mean mistakes happen but why dwell on the past?

gag

I mean those are completely different scenarios that aren't relevant? You are comparing a marked patrol unit responding to a call for service and an off duty cop who shot and murdered someone but just happens to be a cop. I mean that's seriously bizarre that you are making this comparison
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DarkTransient
10/08/18 12:30:17 AM
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Not overly familiar with the specific case, was it a "this is actually 100% unjustified" case like Philandro Castile, or a "BLM's outraged but later evidence showed it was justified" case like... well, most big-name cases?

If it's the former then fuck that he shouldn't ever have the job again, but if it was the latter then no problem.
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anth0ny
10/08/18 12:30:50 AM
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spudger posted...
cjsdowg posted...
someone's got to give you a second chance

interesting. we dont give 2nd chances to molesting 12 yr olds, but murdering them we do?


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anth0ny
10/08/18 12:31:15 AM
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spicy post
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darkprince45
10/08/18 12:49:05 AM
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Darth-Bastard posted...
no what im saying is

if people arent allowed second chances

arent you saying we should just execute them?

Who is saying any of this? I never said anything reference second chances

What are you even talking about
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