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Rikiaz
09/01/18 11:48:22 AM
#101:


_Goggalor_ posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Squall28 posted...
Do you literally have acid laying in your bedroom for home intruders? And what if it's not an intruder? What if it's someone you know who forgot their keys?


I do actually, along with knives, steel pipes, hammers, and other improvised weapons (thermite if I want to go nuts). And no one besides me has a key to my apartment.

Do your landlords know you have a serial killer themed bedroom?


I actually though about rigging the HCL and Thermite into traps, but automation just increases the risk that I kill someone innocent (acid) or burn down the building (thermite). I still have the knives/scalpel and the hammer and pipe at the ready though (I pull out the drawer they are in before bed so there's no need to fumble with it in the case of a break in).

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_Goggalor_
09/01/18 11:49:30 AM
#102:


Rikiaz posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Squall28 posted...
Do you literally have acid laying in your bedroom for home intruders? And what if it's not an intruder? What if it's someone you know who forgot their keys?


I do actually, along with knives, steel pipes, hammers, and other improvised weapons (thermite if I want to go nuts). And no one besides me has a key to my apartment.

Do your landlords know you have a serial killer themed bedroom?


I actually though about rigging the HCL and Thermite into traps, but automation just increases the risk that I kill someone innocent (acid) or burn down the building (thermite). I still have the knives/scalpel and the hammer and pipe at the ready though (I pull out the drawer they are in before bed so there's no need to fumble with it in the case of a break in).

There is something not quite right with you.


Nah, I just don't fuck around when it comes to protecting myself from scumbags.
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hockeybub89
09/01/18 11:49:51 AM
#103:


_Goggalor_ posted...
Rikiaz posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Squall28 posted...
Do you literally have acid laying in your bedroom for home intruders? And what if it's not an intruder? What if it's someone you know who forgot their keys?


I do actually, along with knives, steel pipes, hammers, and other improvised weapons (thermite if I want to go nuts). And no one besides me has a key to my apartment.

Do your landlords know you have a serial killer themed bedroom?


I actually though about rigging the HCL and Thermite into traps, but automation just increases the risk that I kill someone innocent (acid) or burn down the building (thermite). I still have the knives/scalpel and the hammer and pipe at the ready though (I pull out the drawer they are in before bed so there's no need to fumble with it in the case of a break in).

There is something not quite right with you.


Nah, I just don't fuck around when it comes to protecting myself from scumbags.

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The Great Muta 22
09/01/18 11:51:49 AM
#104:


_Goggalor_ posted...
Rikiaz posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Squall28 posted...
Do you literally have acid laying in your bedroom for home intruders? And what if it's not an intruder? What if it's someone you know who forgot their keys?


I do actually, along with knives, steel pipes, hammers, and other improvised weapons (thermite if I want to go nuts). And no one besides me has a key to my apartment.

Do your landlords know you have a serial killer themed bedroom?


I actually though about rigging the HCL and Thermite into traps, but automation just increases the risk that I kill someone innocent (acid) or burn down the building (thermite). I still have the knives/scalpel and the hammer and pipe at the ready though (I pull out the drawer they are in before bed so there's no need to fumble with it in the case of a break in).

There is something not quite right with you.


Nah, I just don't fuck around when it comes to protecting myself from scumbags.


You sound like a paranoid freak tbh
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_Goggalor_
09/01/18 11:55:31 AM
#105:


The Great Muta 22 posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Rikiaz posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
Squall28 posted...
Do you literally have acid laying in your bedroom for home intruders? And what if it's not an intruder? What if it's someone you know who forgot their keys?


I do actually, along with knives, steel pipes, hammers, and other improvised weapons (thermite if I want to go nuts). And no one besides me has a key to my apartment.

Do your landlords know you have a serial killer themed bedroom?


I actually though about rigging the HCL and Thermite into traps, but automation just increases the risk that I kill someone innocent (acid) or burn down the building (thermite). I still have the knives/scalpel and the hammer and pipe at the ready though (I pull out the drawer they are in before bed so there's no need to fumble with it in the case of a break in).

There is something not quite right with you.


Nah, I just don't fuck around when it comes to protecting myself from scumbags.


You sound like a paranoid freak tbh


Yet I live a pretty normal life. Have fun fumbling around in the dark and getting shot I if anyone breaks into your place though.
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smoke_break
09/02/18 12:45:00 AM
#106:


DuranOfForcena posted...
the robbers are there to rob, not kill.

That's a big assumption to make.
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Andrew21044
09/02/18 1:05:38 AM
#107:


_Goggalor_ posted...
I live a pretty normal life



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Solid Snake07
09/02/18 1:39:48 AM
#109:


Squall28 posted...
So many internet tough guys in this topic. If they have a gun and you don't, your ass is grass.


Oh, I know the cards would be heavily stacked against me but I not gonna just hope they won't shoot me if a cooperate. Anyone willing to break into a house they aren't positive it's empty is definitely ready to kill you.

The only option is to try and neutralize the gun, any other tactic other than cooperating is almost 100% gonna get you shot.
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Dash_Harber
09/02/18 1:41:05 AM
#110:


What if the intruder has two guns? Do I need three guns?
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LinksLiege
09/02/18 1:41:55 AM
#111:


SageHarpuia posted...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duty_to_retreat

Run across the street in your underwear

lol from Oregon

Legal weed and I can shoot an intruder dead without a second thought.
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Sphyx
09/02/18 1:47:58 AM
#112:


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Offworlder1
09/02/18 2:37:15 AM
#113:


All of you are appraoching this the wrong way.

What you do is get your bible, koran, book of satan, etc and tell them that the power of _____ compels you like some literal mad man/woman while completely naked.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
09/02/18 2:39:19 AM
#114:


I have 4 machetes
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nicklebro
09/02/18 2:41:35 AM
#115:


smoke_break posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
the robbers are there to rob, not kill.

That's a big assumption to make.

Its pretty silly to not assume that tho. Why the hell would robbers want to kill you more than just take your stuff and bounce?
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LinksLiege
09/02/18 2:47:39 AM
#116:


They've already broken into your home, there's absolutely no reason to assume they don't have something for protection in case things go south. Might not be their aim to kill, but not assuming they have something is absurd.
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nicklebro
09/02/18 2:49:10 AM
#117:


LinksLiege posted...
They've already broken into your home, there's absolutely no reason to assume they don't have something for protection in case things go south. Might not be their aim to kill, but not assuming they have something is absurd.

No one says assume they don't have a gun. But you do assume they're there to rob and not to kill, which you said is a big assumption. Its really not.

And my protection would be calling the cops.
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Solid Snake07
09/02/18 3:15:57 AM
#118:


nicklebro posted...
smoke_break posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
the robbers are there to rob, not kill.

That's a big assumption to make.

Its pretty silly to not assume that tho. Why the hell would robbers want to kill you more than just take your stuff and bounce?


Dude, if someone is willing to break into my house when I'm home I'm gonna assume they're ready to kill me. It's really not that hard to case a house and wait till no one is home to rob it
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nicklebro
09/02/18 3:18:51 AM
#119:


Solid Snake07 posted...

Dude, if someone is willing to break into my house when I'm home I'm gonna assume they're ready to kill me. It's really not that hard to case a house and wait till no one is home to rob it

Being ready to kill you is far different than wanting to kill you, planning to kill you, or aiming to kill you. And really, there's no logical reason for you to make that assumption, most home break ins do not even involve a deadly weapon, even while the home owner is home.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/02/18 3:21:15 AM
#120:


I think a lot of people here are underestimating just how much melee damage is required to subdue most grown people

Unless you nail them properly the first time it'll probably take several stabs or blows to take them down, plenty of chance for the adrenaline to help them fight you
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nicklebro
09/02/18 3:23:36 AM
#121:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
I think a lot of people here are underestimating just how much melee damage is required to subdue most grown people

Unless you nail them properly the first time it'll probably take several stabs or blows to take them down, plenty of chance for the adrenaline to help them fight you

If you get in one good shot against a burglar, the overwhelming majority of the time they're just looking to get the hell out of there, not fight you to till one of you is incapacitated.
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AvantgardeAClue
09/02/18 3:26:35 AM
#122:


nicklebro posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
I think a lot of people here are underestimating just how much melee damage is required to subdue most grown people

Unless you nail them properly the first time it'll probably take several stabs or blows to take them down, plenty of chance for the adrenaline to help them fight you

If you get in one good shot against a burglar, the overwhelming majority of the time they're just looking to get the hell out of there, not fight you to till one of you is incapacitated.


Or they'll recover enough to shoot you, the likely scenario if that one blow doesn't work
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nicklebro
09/02/18 3:38:48 AM
#124:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
nicklebro posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
I think a lot of people here are underestimating just how much melee damage is required to subdue most grown people

Unless you nail them properly the first time it'll probably take several stabs or blows to take them down, plenty of chance for the adrenaline to help them fight you

If you get in one good shot against a burglar, the overwhelming majority of the time they're just looking to get the hell out of there, not fight you to till one of you is incapacitated.


Or they'll recover enough to shoot you, the likely scenario if that one blow doesn't work

Very unlikely. What % of home robberies do you think end up in the homeowner being shot? Or even attacked at all?
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ReelBigMurlocs
09/02/18 3:41:47 AM
#125:


I'm so broke that honestly they'd probably just leave and feel sorry for me.
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nicklebro
09/02/18 3:43:57 AM
#126:


ReelBigMurlocs posted...
I'm so broke that honestly they'd probably just leave and feel sorry for me.

He'd leave some money on the dresser before leaving. I just saw a video online about a joke like that, had me rolling. Oh and the meme where the robber wakes you up and asks "You live like this?"
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Sephiroth1288
09/02/18 3:44:05 AM
#127:


nicklebro posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
nicklebro posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
I think a lot of people here are underestimating just how much melee damage is required to subdue most grown people

Unless you nail them properly the first time it'll probably take several stabs or blows to take them down, plenty of chance for the adrenaline to help them fight you

If you get in one good shot against a burglar, the overwhelming majority of the time they're just looking to get the hell out of there, not fight you to till one of you is incapacitated.


Or they'll recover enough to shoot you, the likely scenario if that one blow doesn't work

Very unlikely. What % of home robberies do you think end up in the homeowner being shot? Or even attacked at all?

How big of a percent are you willing to roll the dice on when your life could be on the line?
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Sephiroth1288
09/02/18 3:45:53 AM
#128:


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nicklebro
09/02/18 3:50:20 AM
#129:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
How big of a percent are you willing to roll the dice on when your life could be on the line?

I'm not rolling any dice, I'm hiding and calling the cops.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
JMtiy06

Lol this is hilariously stupid. If you're getting robbed by 4 people, unless you're highly trained you're not gonna be able to kill all 4 of them no matter what gun you have. Even if its a shot gun or an ak, it just ain't gonna happen. Plus no one gets robbed by 4 people at once, its usually 1, once in a while 2. Not 4. Why do conservatives make the worst memes/jokes/arguments ever? What is it about being conservatives that zaps you of all creativity?
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Deedice
09/02/18 3:51:15 AM
#130:


Wooden sword
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Sephiroth1288
09/02/18 3:53:47 AM
#131:


nicklebro posted...
Lol this is hilariously stupid. If you're getting robbed by 4 people, unless you're highly trained you're not gonna be able to kill all 4 of them no matter what gun you have. Even if its a shot gun or an ak, it just ain't gonna happen. Plus no one gets robbed by 4 people at once, its usually 1, once in a while 2. Not 4. Why do conservatives make the worst memes/jokes/arguments ever? What is it about being conservatives that zaps you of all creativity?

Nothing says "I have a great sense of humor" like getting all pissy about a joke and then getting all political.
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ProfessorKukui
09/02/18 4:28:06 AM
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ForestLogic
09/02/18 4:34:42 AM
#133:


I have a baseball bat and literally a katana readily accessible. Provided they don't have a gun, which actually happens fairly often around here, I'm not afraid to use them. (That in addition to I've literally been doing martial arts for over a decade and have needed to learn how to subdue/disarm people for work in the past). I'm pretty confident in my ability to defend my home.
That said, if I do see they have a gun, I'm hiding and calling the police since gun always beats melee unless you're an anime character.

(TBQH a baseball bat is one of the best modern-day weapons you can keep around. Why do you think the mafia uses them so much?)
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nicklebro
09/02/18 4:46:26 AM
#134:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
nicklebro posted...
Lol this is hilariously stupid. If you're getting robbed by 4 people, unless you're highly trained you're not gonna be able to kill all 4 of them no matter what gun you have. Even if its a shot gun or an ak, it just ain't gonna happen. Plus no one gets robbed by 4 people at once, its usually 1, once in a while 2. Not 4. Why do conservatives make the worst memes/jokes/arguments ever? What is it about being conservatives that zaps you of all creativity?

Nothing says "I have a great sense of humor" like getting all pissy about a joke and then getting all political.

Oh so it was just a joke? Cuz you say some pretty outlandish shit, its not beneath you to be totally serious about that. If you were actually joking, then I amend my previous post to be far less serious and just laugh at it instead.

ForestLogic posted...
I have a baseball bat and literally a katana readily accessible. Provided they don't have a gun, which actually happens fairly often around here, I'm not afraid to use them. (That in addition to I've literally been doing martial arts for over a decade and have needed to learn how to subdue/disarm people for work in the past). I'm pretty confident in my ability to defend my home.
That said, if I do see they have a gun, I'm hiding and calling the police since gun always beats melee unless you're an anime character.

(TBQH a baseball bat is one of the best modern-day weapons you can keep around. Why do you think the mafia uses them so much?)

What martial arts are you training in? Are they real martial arts? Or are you practicing some bullshit haole boy karate or kung fu or something like that?
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Sephiroth1288
09/02/18 4:58:33 AM
#135:


nicklebro posted...
Sephiroth1288 posted...
nicklebro posted...
Lol this is hilariously stupid. If you're getting robbed by 4 people, unless you're highly trained you're not gonna be able to kill all 4 of them no matter what gun you have. Even if its a shot gun or an ak, it just ain't gonna happen. Plus no one gets robbed by 4 people at once, its usually 1, once in a while 2. Not 4. Why do conservatives make the worst memes/jokes/arguments ever? What is it about being conservatives that zaps you of all creativity?

Nothing says "I have a great sense of humor" like getting all pissy about a joke and then getting all political.

Oh so it was just a joke?

No, the bit about firing grapeshot out of an old-timey cannon at home intruders was meant to be totally, 100% serious. Your superior sense of humor totally got me, bro.
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nicklebro
09/02/18 5:48:30 AM
#136:


ForestLogic posted...
I have a baseball bat and literally a katana readily accessible. Provided they don't have a gun, which actually happens fairly often around here, I'm not afraid to use them. (That in addition to I've literally been doing martial arts for over a decade and have needed to learn how to subdue/disarm people for work in the past). I'm pretty confident in my ability to defend my home.
That said, if I do see they have a gun, I'm hiding and calling the police since gun always beats melee unless you're an anime character.

(TBQH a baseball bat is one of the best modern-day weapons you can keep around. Why do you think the mafia uses them so much?)

What kinda martial arts are you training? It isn't like some lame haole boy "karate" is it? Because I'm technically a 2nd degree black belt if you listen to the dojo my dumbass stepfather dragged me to when I was a kid for years.

Sephiroth1288 posted...
No, the bit about firing grapeshot out of an old-timey cannon at home intruders was meant to be totally, 100% serious. Your superior sense of humor totally got me, bro.

Wow man... I already ceded the point, why are you coming at me so hard with the sarcasm? Are you just so excited to have me down that you're kicking me out of sheer joy and excitement? Kicking a man while he's down so immature. But it shines a light on how you never really get to experience being right. Pro tip, next time you're right, act like you've been there before.

I guess this just goes back to how conservatives have the worst senses of humor the human race has ever seen. All that brain rot zaps your creativity.
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Sephiroth1288
09/02/18 6:04:16 AM
#137:


nicklebro posted...
Wow man... I already ceded the point, why are you coming at me so hard with the sarcasm? Are you just so excited to have me down that you're kicking me out of sheer joy and excitement? Kicking a man while he's down so immature. But it shines a light on how you never really get to experience being right. Pro tip, next time you're right, act like you've been there before.

Another sign of a good sense of humor is getting all pouty when someone rags on you. Dude, you should be a comedian or something
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nicklebro
09/02/18 6:12:44 AM
#138:


Sephiroth1288 posted...
nicklebro posted...
Wow man... I already ceded the point, why are you coming at me so hard with the sarcasm? Are you just so excited to have me down that you're kicking me out of sheer joy and excitement? Kicking a man while he's down so immature. But it shines a light on how you never really get to experience being right. Pro tip, next time you're right, act like you've been there before.

Another sign of a good sense of humor is getting all pouty when someone rags on you. Dude, you should be a comedian or something

Wow you seem to be an expert on senses of humor. Well I want to fight back but I'm intimidated into ceding the point yet again. It just sucks to know that no matter what I say, its gonna be a good sign that I have bad sense of humor. I'm stuck. Its like time travel, it seems useful but in reality its useless. If you go back in the past and change something, well you can't do that cuz it will have already happened. Boom paradox. Aw man... Bringing up time travel paradoxes displays an utter lack of a sense of humor doesn't it? Well, at least I won the actual debate.
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GaryGaryGary
09/02/18 7:23:19 AM
#139:


Cricket bat to the coupon.
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Deedice
09/02/18 11:03:49 AM
#140:


Freddie_Mercury posted...
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VIIVincent
09/02/18 11:14:38 AM
#141:


Bit of advice, try using knives next time.
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darkprince45
09/02/18 11:29:26 AM
#142:


Man, some of yall are just so complacent. Burglary and attempted burglary calls are probably the second most common calls I go on. And the whole I live in a safe/neighborhood posts are the best. You do realize living in a good neighborhood is what gets you burglarized

You think they're trying to rob section 8 housing? I went to a burglary a month ago where the guy had 6 cameras and no shit, metal shutters that remotely close over his windows and he still found his way in.

Yesterday an attempted burglary was only stopped because the owner said he had a gun and pointed it at the guy and we caught his ass running out the neighborhood. But sometimes property isnt an excuse to shoot people up

But me and the wife have a plan. I would radio in the traffic, give my wife my duty firearm(glock 19) and I would grab my shotgun thats combat loaded w/ slugs and we would handle business
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immaWHOOPdatASS
09/02/18 11:33:49 AM
#144:


GunmaN1905 posted...
Darkman124 posted...
no reason to risk my life to defend that


Honestly, it's not even about the money/material possessions.
It's about someone breaking in your home and you (not you personally) hiding in the corner like a coward.

I couldn't live with myself if that happened.


They have a fucking gun. This is the dumbest post I've seen on CE in a while
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Anteaterking
09/02/18 11:37:11 AM
#145:


_Goggalor_ posted...
I have a drawer full of sharp/bludgeoning objects right next to my bed for this exact scenario. Knives, pipes, a hammer, razor blades, etc.


I thought they were there for beating up your mother.
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powerman1426
09/02/18 12:32:17 PM
#146:


Anteaterking posted...
_Goggalor_ posted...
I have a drawer full of sharp/bludgeoning objects right next to my bed for this exact scenario. Knives, pipes, a hammer, razor blades, etc.


I thought they were there for beating up your mother.

Well there it is
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meestermj
09/02/18 12:34:31 PM
#147:


I own:
45-60 small knives (folders and fixed blade)
7 swords
1 spear
1 axe
1 pair of nunchucks
1 bokken (red oak)

I'm 100% sure I'd be fine.

Edit: didn't read the OP. Guy has a gun? I'm going out the window of my bedroom and calling the police.
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smoke_break
09/02/18 3:06:58 PM
#148:


meestermj posted...
I own:
45-60 small knives (folders and fixed blade)
7 swords
1 spear
1 axe
1 pair of nunchucks
1 bokken (red oak)

I'm 100% sure I'd be fine.

Edit: didn't read the OP. Guy has a gun? I'm going out the window of my bedroom and calling the police.

Hypothetically speaking though, what would you do if you couldn't escape because you had family or kids in the house?
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_Goggalor_
09/02/18 3:12:33 PM
#149:


There is a 0% chance of a burglar being coherent enough to shoot me if they get HCL thrown in their face. It's just not humanly possible.
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meestermj
09/02/18 4:19:32 PM
#151:


smoke_break posted...
meestermj posted...
I own:
45-60 small knives (folders and fixed blade)
7 swords
1 spear
1 axe
1 pair of nunchucks
1 bokken (red oak)

I'm 100% sure I'd be fine.

Edit: didn't read the OP. Guy has a gun? I'm going out the window of my bedroom and calling the police.

Hypothetically speaking though, what would you do if you couldn't escape because you had family or kids in the house?

In that highly unlikely and very specific situation?
My upstairs is pitch black at night, so I'd simply hide around a corner with my best knife (either my Benchmade SOCP or my CRKT crossbones) and blitz attack.
Two outcomes:
1. I kill the intruder, problem solved.
2. He shoots me alerting my family and neighbors to the situation.
Either way, it's a win for me.
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