Current Events > Fighting games make me so fucking angry.

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I'm good at so much stuff in my life but being consistently beaten by someone and not getting what I did wrong or some bullshit finger folly happening to me god fucking damn it pisses me off. I should be better. Fuck.
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I was blahking dood!!
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that mentality is what made me get good at fighting games. I wanted to be the one handing out ass kickings lol. being good at fighters is pretty satisfying
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How do I get better
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What game(s)?
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Doe posted...

How do I get better

Stop getting angry first of all. Watch replays of your matches to see why you lost. If you're getting washed by people way better than you you're not gonna really learn anything unless you ask them for advice on what to improve on.
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Dropping my inputs!!! *belch*
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Smash 4

inb4
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bait topic

Fighting games and sports games are the only games that bring me from a calm, blissful state to a raging monster with no control over emotions. It's the only reason why I steer clear from those games, now.

Doe posted...

Smash 4

inb4

master the art of rolling and counters
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Buzzsaw Blast!
For good measure.
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Doe posted...

How do I get better

what I did way back when was, watched hellllla videos, and played hellllla matches. basically absorbed a lot of footage and picked the player's brains, then executed what I learned. you're going to lose a lot before you get better, it only makes sense. if you just started playing guitar of course you're gonna get washed by a guy who's already been doing it for years.
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I fucking hate this game

I don't to fucking play anymore
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Just take a breather when you feel upset honestly
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I just lose now. My friends have surpassed me and I don't own the console so I can't look back at the game or anything. It's just me going into that room and playing so fucking well and then just dying because they play shit like Mario and I'm suddenly ended by a stray up smash.

It makes me so mad because I'm good at basically any other game. I have fantastic FPS skill, I'm really lucid in card games, but fighting games are such fucking bullshit.
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Maybe fighting games just aren't for you? I suck at them and sports games and I accepted that awhile ago. x.x
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so you're not actually good at games and have been operating under the illusion that you were, because you've never played games that test your skill

Reis posted...

so you're not actually good at games and have been operating under the illusion that you were, because you've never played games that test your skill

Different genres require different skillsets
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what's the game? and what are you getting beat by?

as someone who has ascended past getting angry at fighting games I can say most of the time ppl get angry cause they don't even know HOW they lost. which makes it seems like there's no way to win. every thing you lose to, can be countered.
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you're letting ppl bully you. BE the bully.
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No Virtua Fighter 6 pisses me off too.

Are you playing with or without items? This is important.
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Doe posted...

Smash 4

Reis posted...

bait topic

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Fighting games against other players, especially players that are more experienced & better then you at the moment requires training.

You need to learn to calm your emotions and don't let the emotions drive your reactions / fighting style.

You need to be able to be cool, rational, & focused when playing fighting games against good players.

Otherwise, you're going to slip up which will lead you down many bad paths that have a downward spiral.
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sm4sh player here but i need more details lol

items?

casual-ish?

or is it set under more competitive rules?

what character(s) do you use and who do you dislike a lot?
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not a fighting game
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YUHH posted...

not a fighting game

I agree, Smash isn't a traditional fighting game.

It's in a hybrid genre that requires a unique mind set.
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it's a fighting game but it's not a traditional fighter

pretty simple
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Imagine getting this buttflustered over a party game.
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https://imgur.com/GWMpoan
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wheres tc
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Zero_Destroyer posted...

or is it set under more competitive rules?

what character(s) do you use and who do you dislike a lot?

Two stocks comp stage list but Lylat Cruise banned

I play Fox and Ness

My least favorite to fight is Mario followed by Marth
I feel like when I try to approach I just lose but when they approach I also lose. I just dunno anymore. I'm at my best after coming out of neutral because my characters can get off 50% in an exchange but I have trouble killing which is a problem my friends don't have. There are times where I get them to 110% with one stock with both my stocks left and then I lose because I couldn't finish it. Crossups fuck me up when Mario can just do a lagless tornado and go anywhere around you and hit again or drop and grab. Against the Marth I always feel so easily walled out and can't react to his FAir speed or his Dolphin Slash bullshit.
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Trickfinger posted...

wheres tc

probably breaking his controller in frustration
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maybe switch to a sports game instead

Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm made angry unlike other fighting games. I can learn Street Fighter 4, skullgirls and Blazblue, but I can't seem to dodge or defend against certain attacks in the Storm series.
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Had a similar experience in Injustice 2. The game simply doesn't respond and makes you fail a combo or get opened up.
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LightningAce11 posted...

Had a similar experience in Injustice 2. The game simply doesn't respond and makes you fail a combo or get opened up.

That was my experience with Injustice 1 online. There were so many matches where I saw that my opponent was open after an attack, then I would try to attack only for my character to stand still for a second and eat a combo or bullets.
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Doe posted...

Two stocks comp stage list but Lylat Cruise banned

I play Fox and Ness

My least favorite to fight is Mario followed by Marth
I feel like when I try to approach I just lose but when they approach I also lose. I just dunno anymore. I'm at my best after coming out of neutral because my characters can get off 50% in an exchange but I have trouble killing which is a problem my friends don't have. There are times where I get them to 110% with one stock with both my stocks left and then I lose because I couldn't finish it. Crossups fuck me up when Mario can just do a lagless tornado and go anywhere around you and hit again or drop and grab. Against the Marth I always feel so easily walled out and can't react to his FAir speed or his Dolphin Slash bullshit.

I have a lot of similar problems. I've tried to think it through. Mario is easily my least favorite character to fight, but I also try and gauge him against other characters I don't enjoy fighting. That tends to be -

-Characters that have little endlag/startup like Falcon or Mario who feels like that can CONSTANTLY pressure you. In Mario's case, it feels like he can do almost anything at any time.

-Projectile characters, but that's a product of me playing online where spamming Can/PK Fire (Lucas)/Villager's arsenal etc. are all easier and safer while power shielding is harder, so I don't think that's applicable to what you're dealing with.

I think a lot of it boils down to locking up mid-game. It constrains your movement, makes you more susceptible to bad options like rolling a lot or air dodging predictability or throwing out smash attacks, and overall facilitates your opponent coming back on you because you stopped doing what was working.

I agree that watching replays is a big deal to help solve this. It and constructive advice on bad habits I had from friends online helped a lot. Watching other people play helped me some since I eventually developed some sense of how to break down small interactions.

I can't fully help because you're describing scenarios I still grapple with a lot but I think some of it boils down to learning not to be preemptively scared or to mentally check out early. I play better when I'm not invested because it makes me less scared, for example, but sometimes you just get invested.

Character selection helped me a bit; I can check out of "seeing the trophy" if I just play a bunch of random characters and learn them, which helps to not get so into it that I get angry or scared to do anything. I also picked up Lucario since he mitigates early stock loss a bit.

I think most of it will come down to things like;

-Not getting afraid of losing once you have a lead.

-Not giving up if you lost a stock early since that's often one interaction that went wrong, and if you outplay them extra hard you still have a solid chance of winning. Consider that if it can happen to you a lot, it can go the other way.

-Not getting angry. Beyond expensive controllers being at risk, it leads to a rapid decline in gameplay quality. I know that this is hard, extremely hard, even, but my experience was to play until I got mad and stop, take a breather, entertain myself, and come back. Don't worry about W/L rates because fighting games are fundamentally about learning from a loss. Everyone loses, especially out of tournament.

I'm not a guru and understand that I apply this advice to myself imperfectly but I've found that my play improved by stifling the bad parts of my player mentality and self-analyzing my gameplay more.

I'd also advise maybe slowing down or breaking entirely until Ultimate comes out to get a fresh start. I've been less and less active for this reason.
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Also, I can't help vs. Mario much. I can tell you what I personally hate fighting against. Some people hate fighting vs. Cloud or Bayo, but you go in knowing how towering they can be mid-game. Mario is deceptively fast and catches you off guard and often gets a lot of mileage, and can break out or punish you if you try to do the same. How to apply counterplay? I don't know, I suck vs. Mario lmao.

Take some solace insofar that everybody usually has a character they hate fighting and Mario is a commonly brought up example.

I'd suggest looking up Mario guides to maybe learn or understand counterplay but Ultimate is so close that there's really not too much of a point outside of prepping yourself for matchup study for Ultimate
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lol I love how TC apparently just keeps whipping out his phone to complain on CE while his friends watch
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Naruto Ultimate Ninja Storm made angry unlike other fighting games. I can learn Street Fighter 4, skullgirls and Blazblue, but I can't seem to dodge or defend against certain attacks in the Storm series.

Thats cause it has a shoddy hole ridden engine. Fun for casual play but it cant be taken seriously
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DevsBro posted...

lol I love how TC apparently just keeps whipping out his phone to complain on CE while his friends watch

Nah I leave
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